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3 1 today, so I want to make sure that it's on the VILLAGE OF BRATENAHL 2 website and all that and we can approve it. 10300 BRIGHTON ROAD 3 MAYOR BENJAMIN: Absolutely. We will BRATENAHL, OHIO 44108 4 hold off on approving those until the next (216) 383-0468 18:31:47 5 meeting. 6 Speaking of the next meeting, a couple VILLAGE COUNCIL MEETING 7 items tonight before we move forward. We do not 8 have a quorum tonight. Mr. Puffenberger and Ms. WEDNESDAY, JUNE 17, 2026 9 Hoefling are out of town at the moment. We will 6:30 p.m. 18:32:07 10 be having a special Council meeting on June 30th. 11 That's Tuesday, right, on Tuesday, June 30th. MAYOR KEITH BENJAMIN 12 And we will at that meeting consider several JOYCE BURKE-JONES DAVID DEWS 13 items, some finance related items, along with GINA HUFFMAN 14 agenda items that are on tonight's agenda DAVID KOZINSKI 18:32:34 15 regarding the rezoning of the Barbara 16 Byrd-Bennett Bratenahl Center property, 6, 7, 8, DAVID J. MATTY, ESQ. 17 9 and 10. So we will not be considering those NANCY L. MOLNAR, RPR, CLR 18 tonight. 19 Mr. Matty, do we have to officially 18:32:49 20 table those items or just not read them? 21 MR. MATTY: I would table them. They're 22 on the agenda. 23 MAYOR BENJAMIN: So we will continue our 24 public hearing tonight on those items, but if 18:33:00 25 there is a motion from a member of Council to 2 4 1 MR. MATTY: Good evening, everyone. It 1 table Ordinance 4296, 4297, 4298, 4299 and 4300 2 is Wednesday, June 17, 2026 at 6:30 p.m., and 2 for the reading tonight and we'll move those to 3 this is the regular meeting of Bratenahl Village 3 the June 30th. 4 Council. Please stand, if you're able, for the 4 MS. BURKE-JONES: I so move. 18:30:39 5 Pledge of Allegiance. 18:33:20 5 MR. DEWS: Second. 6 (Pledge of Allegiance.) 6 MAYOR BENJAMIN: It's been moved and 7 MAYOR BENJAMIN: Madam Clerk, roll call 7 seconded. Any questions? Roll call on the 8 when you're ready. 8 motion, please. 9 MS. COOKS: Good evening. Ms. 9 MS. COOKS: Ms. Burke-Jones? 10 Burke-Jones? 10 MS. BURKE-JONES: Aye. 11 MS. BURKE-JONES: Here. 11 MS. COOKS: Mr. Dews? 12 MS. COOKS: Mr. Dews? 12 MR. DEWS: Aye. 13 MR. DEWS: Here. 13 MS. COOKS: Ms. Huffman? 14 MS. COOKS: Ms. Hoefling is absent. Ms. 14 MS. HUFFMAN: Aye. 15 Huffman? 15 MS. COOKS: Mr. Kozinski? 16 MS. HUFFMAN: Here. 16 MR. KOZINSKI: Aye. 17 MS. COOKS: Mr. Kozinski? 17 MAYOR BENJAMIN: And because of the 18 MR. KOZINSKI: Here. 18 absence of two of our Finance Committee members, 19 MS. COOKS: Mr. Puffenberger is absent. 19 we did not have a regular Finance Committee 18:31:18 20 MAYOR BENJAMIN: Thank you. Is there a 18:33:43 20 meeting tonight. That will take place also at 21 motion to approve the minutes of the May 20, 2026 21 the next meeting. So if you have specific 22 Bratenahl Council? 22 questions regarding items, we will take public 23 MS. BURKE-JONES: I so move. 23 comment at the special meeting on June 30th, and 24 MR. DEWS: Mayor, can we postpone that 24 residents can answer any questions regarding 18:31:35 25 until the next meeting? We just got the minutes 18:33:59 25 those. 1 of 12 sheets Page 1 to 4 of 45 07/14/2026 12:51:00 AM  5 7 1 Now, we're going to move first to 1 MS. BURKE-JONES: I remember Marla, 2 communications of Village Council. Are there any 2 Councilperson Marla Murphy, when she left, she 3 communications before we move? 3 had made just some notes as to thoughts that she 4 MR. DEWS: Mayor, I have one. I just 4 thought we might still consider as the years 18:34:15 5 want to address Council and the Mayor. We had a 18:36:43 5 pass. And she had identified the Committee of 6 legislation committee in the past there. And I 6 the Whole as something that we might consider. 7 think it's very important we reinstate that 7 MS. HUFFMAN: Which we did. 8 committee again to vet out legislations, policies 8 MS. BURKE-JONES: So that would have 9 and procedures from the standpoint of reviewing 9 been at least four years ago. 18:34:33 10 previous legislation, current and future 18:36:54 10 MR. DEWS: This is a narrow focus there. 11 legislations. This will help making sure that 11 Committee of the Whole, this is about narrowing 12 the legislation we're voting on is vetted and so 12 our focus to make sure that we're working on 13 forth and we've had this in the past. I did some 13 certain items that are specific. Committee of 14 review on it. I think it was 2014. 14 the Whole has morphed into take care of 18:34:50 15 MAYOR BENJAMIN: '17 was the last 18:37:08 15 everything. That's the reason why we should be 16 meeting I could find. 16 doing these things at committee. That's the most 17 MR. DEWS: But I would like to bring 17 efficient way of doing these things so we can get 18 this in front of Council to see what your 18 the most bang for our buck instead of just 19 thoughts are, but I would like -- I want to make 19 morphing everything in Committee of the Whole. 18:35:02 20 a motion that we reinstate that particular 18:37:22 20 That's just my feelings on this. 21 committee. It will assist us in looking at a lot 21 MAYOR BENJAMIN: I'm fine either way. 22 of these legislation that are coming through. 22 During different Councils over the years, some 23 MR. MATTY: Do you second it, Dave? 23 Councils work better with Committee of the Whole 24 MR. KOZINSKI: I will second it. 24 working together, some Councils work better 18:35:18 25 MR. DEWS: I'll make a motion to 18:37:37 25 broken up and really getting down to the work, so Molnar Reporting Services, LLC (440) 340-6161 Molnar Reporting Services, LLC (440) 340-6161 6 8 1 reinstate the Legislation Committee. We can do 1 whatever you feel is going to work best for you 2 that basically with the quorum that we have; is 2 to get the work done, I'm all in favor of it and 3 that correct, Mr. Matty? 3 we can try it. If it doesn't work, we can make 4 MR. MATTY: By motion you can, yes. 4 adjustments. 18:35:31 5 MR. DEWS: So it's been moved and 18:37:50 5 MR. DEWS: The thing is that coming up 6 properly seconded then. 6 this year, the next couple years, there's going 7 MAYOR BENJAMIN: It's been seconded. 7 to be a lot of work to do. And that work is not 8 Any questions about the establishment of a 8 going to be all done in Committee of the Whole. 9 Legislative Committee. As a note, since we're 9 So we're going to have to have broken out 18:35:40 10 adding another committee, I will go back, because 18:38:02 10 individual committees that focus on specific 11 we had left the committee assignments the same 11 items so we can get this thing done and move the 12 for this year, but I will now go back and make 12 ball forward. So there's a motion on the floor, 13 sure that everybody is represented fairly on our 13 it's been properly second. Any more questions? 14 committees when we make these assignments. 14 MAYOR BENJAMIN: If there are no 18:35:57 15 MS. HUFFMAN: Well, not that I have any 18:38:18 15 questions, roll call on the motion, please. 16 opposition to the Legislation Committee coming 16 MS. COOKS: Ms. Burke-Jones? 17 back, but I believe, if I'm not mistaken, maybe, 17 MS. BURKE-JONES: Aye. 18 Joyce, you'll remember, did we do that, we rested 18 MS. COOKS: Mr. Dews? 19 that in favor for a Committee of the Whole, is 19 MR. DEWS: Aye. 18:36:15 20 that why we did it? 20 MS. COOKS: Ms. Huffman? 21 MAYOR BENJAMIN: The Committee of the 21 MS. HUFFMAN: Aye. 22 Whole came later on, I think. 22 MS. COOKS: Mr. Kozinski? 23 MS. HUFFMAN: I thought it was -- I'm 23 MR. KOZINSKI: Aye. 24 asking to be reminded, because that's what I 24 MAYOR BENJAMIN: Okay. Thank you. 18:36:29 25 thought. 18:38:29 25 We'll now move on to communication from the Molnar Reporting Services, LLC (440) 340-6161 Molnar Reporting Services, LLC (440) 340-6161 07/14/2026 12:51:00 AM Page 5 to 8 of 45 2 of 12 sheets  9 11 1 administration, Engineer Bierut. 1 questions? 2 MR. BIERUT: Just two items, really item 2 MS. MEADE: How much does Bratenahl get 3 and a half. We're working towards getting stuff 3 from that? 4 together, the material together for the sale of 4 MR. ARMSTRONG: We don't. We pass that 18:38:46 5 Bratenahl Center whenever that goes forward. So 18:41:03 5 on to the residents. So residents get below 6 we want to be ready to go when it does go forward 6 market rates for the classes. 7 when we get the green light. 7 MS. MEADE: Does she pay rental for the 8 The second now we need to say the 8 room? 9 village looks great, the signage, the entryways 9 MR. ARMSTRONG: No. So that's our deal 18:39:00 10 look great. The Service Department has done a 18:41:13 10 with most people is that if you give residents at 11 great job. 11 least a 25 percent below, I'll have to check, but 12 MAYOR BENJAMIN: The Service Department 12 at the time I think it was her rates were like 40 13 does a fantastic job. Thank you. Appreciate it. 13 percent below market for residents. So our thing 14 Any questions for Don Bierut? 14 is we'd rather not -- we'd rather pass that along 18:39:12 15 Okay. Hearing none, we'll give the 18:41:30 15 to the residents and get them in here and get 16 court, Mayor's court update at the next meeting. 16 them participating in activities than to try to 17 And Service Director Maund could not be here 17 generate income from it. So unless the market 18 tonight, so at the June 30th meeting, we'll have 18 has changed significantly, she was like 30 19 updates from the Service Department. 19 percent below what the market rates were for 18:39:31 20 Is there -- I can't see behind you, so 18:41:44 20 that. Just like yoga is the same thing, Tai Chi 21 Ms. Lyons, did you have a Shade Tree Commission. 21 is the same thing. I think yoga is eight bucks a 22 MS. LYONS: I just wanted to know when 22 class. 23 the Special Council meeting, what time it will 23 MS. MEADE: What is Pilates? Is it like 24 be. 24 60? 18:39:42 25 MAYOR BENJAMIN: 5:30. 18:41:58 25 MR. ARMSTRONG: It depends on what you Molnar Reporting Services, LLC (440) 340-6161 Molnar Reporting Services, LLC (440) 340-6161 10 12 1 MS. LYONS: For Finance or for the 1 do. I'm going to get into the weeds here, but 2 Council? 2 there's private sessions and then there's groups 3 MAYOR BENJAMIN: For the 30th. We'll 3 of three, so it's kind of what you do. But we 4 handle everything at it at Council meeting, so 4 did check the rates last year. I thought I 18:39:57 5 5:30 p.m. 18:42:09 5 presented that at Council, but maybe I didn't. 6 MS. LYONS: Thank you. 6 MAYOR BENJAMIN: You did present. You 7 MAYOR BENJAMIN: Okay. Mr. Armstrong, 7 presented the philosophy, that was a while ago, 8 Community Life. 8 yeah. And that we were going to try this setup 9 MR. ARMSTRONG: Community Life. In May, 9 to get residents in the door. 18:40:05 10 we had 530 visitors, six meetings, five rentals, 18:42:30 10 MR. DEWS: Are these written as policies 11 two events. The parade and picnic and blooms 11 and procedures for recreation that this is how we 12 sale, both of which we've gotten good feedback 12 do things so it's standard across the board? 13 on, but if anyone else has feedback, I'd love to 13 MR. ARMSTRONG: Yes. 14 hear it. 14 MR. KOZINSKI: That was approved by 18:40:20 15 We eliminated our a.m. hours as of this 18:42:41 15 Council? 16 month. We had regulars and I'm sad that we had 16 MR. ARMSTRONG: It was presented. 17 to cut them off, but we just weren't getting 17 MAYOR BENJAMIN: It was presented to 18 enough in to justify it. 18 Council, but I don't remember if there was actual 19 We need to talk about budget for the 19 legislation. We will bring forward -- we need to 18:40:34 20 rest of the year, because I need to be planning 18:42:52 20 look at our fee schedules. We will bring that 21 things, so whenever you can do that. And just as 21 forward in the next month or so for Council. 22 a side note, Pilates has been crushing it. She's 22 MR. ARMSTRONG: I mean, I figure it's 23 doing 120 sessions a month in there. It's been a 23 six and one for us. I mean, we can charge 24 really popular addition for the center. 24 residents more, make it less appealing for them 18:40:55 25 MAYOR BENJAMIN: Thank you. Any 18:43:08 25 and then take rent. To me, I'd rather get people Molnar Reporting Services, LLC (440) 340-6161 Molnar Reporting Services, LLC (440) 340-6161 3 of 12 sheets Page 9 to 12 of 45 07/14/2026 12:51:00 AM  13 15 1 involved, but it's not my decision, if you want 1 MR. KOZINSKI: Mike, do you know the 2 to do something else, we can. 2 percentage of residents versus nonresidents in 3 MR. DEWS: We just need the written 3 that class? 4 policies and procedures, basically if we're 4 MR. ARMSTRONG: No, but I can get that. 18:43:25 5 audited and so fourth, we're doing what we're 18:45:29 5 MR. KOZINSKI: Can you, please. 6 supposed to be doing. 6 MR. ARMSTRONG: Yeah. Do you want that 7 MR. ARMSTRONG: We spent some time 7 for all classes? Nonresidents get charged more. 8 clarifying that in the policies and procedures, 8 MR. KOZINSKI: I understand. I just 9 because it was, you know, not black and white, I 9 didn't know the stats for resident versus 18:43:36 10 guess. 18:45:45 10 nonresident. 11 MAYOR BENJAMIN: Okay. Thank you. 11 MAYOR BENJAMIN: All right. Any other 12 MS. COOKS: May I, sir? 12 questions? We'll move on to -- I'm sorry, Mary, 13 MAYOR BENJAMIN: Sure. 13 did you have a report. 14 MS. COOKS: All fee schedules, the 14 MS. RANNEY: I do not. 18:43:43 15 auditors will be looking at the fee schedules 18:45:54 15 MAYOR BENJAMIN: Police. 16 that were approved by Council. So when they 16 CHIEF LOBELLO: Good evening. Sorry the 17 audit a period, they will be looking -- they will 17 lieutenant couldn't be here, he's usually the 18 be testing your receipts to make sure whatever is 18 star of the show, but today is his birthday and 19 on the fee schedule is what you were charging. 19 he's watching the beloved Croatian World Cup 18:43:58 20 If it says it's free of charge, then you're good. 18:46:09 20 team. (Laughter.) 21 But if it says any other amount on there, then 21 Bratenahl Police Department activity 22 there will be financial -- 22 report for May of 2026, six 911 calls; five alarm 23 MR. ARMSTRONG: Regardless of what's in 23 drops; eight animal complaints; 42 disabled motor 24 the policies? 24 vehicles; we responded to debris on the street 18:44:12 25 MR. MATTY: It does not supersede the 18:46:24 25 five times; two assaults; one neighbor trouble; Molnar Reporting Services, LLC (440) 340-6161 Molnar Reporting Services, LLC (440) 340-6161 14 16 1 legislation and the auditors don't know and they 1 six erratic drivers; one weapons offense; one 2 don't care whether or not people are being 2 call for open burning; three general assists; we 3 brought into your facility. They may even think 3 assisted other agencies 32 times; we had one 4 that you're bringing people into your facility 4 breaking and entering; 13 OVIs; 17 traffic 18:44:27 5 that you know or some other devious idea. And 18:46:45 5 crashes; we assisted EMS and fire 14 times; and 6 I'm sure you're not, but if we have a fee, you 6 one parking complaint; four road hazards; one 7 have to charge it, unless Council changes it. 7 theft; eight general suspicions; two trees down; 8 MR. ARMSTRONG: Okay. Again, these 8 149 traffic stops resulting in 99 citations; we 9 policies were presented a year and a half ago, so 9 had one unwanted guest; and 15 welfare checks. 18:44:46 10 if that's different, then I didn't know that that 18:47:09 10 MAYOR BENJAMIN: Mr. Orel. 11 was the case. 11 MR. OREL: What's the suspicious -- the 12 MR. MATTY: I can understand that. But 12 two, I can't remember what you said, suspicious. 13 if you want to re-present those, you can 13 CHIEF LOBELLO: The only thing we had 14 re-present those going forward, but going past, 14 two of were trees down and assault. 18:44:58 15 you have to charge what the fee schedule is. 18:47:27 15 MR. OREL: The suspicious. 16 MR. ARMSTRONG: I don't have any skin in 16 CHIEF LOBELLO: General suspicion? 17 the game, so whatever you guys want to do. I was 17 MR. OREL: Yeah. What's that? 18 trying to do what was best for the community. 18 CHIEF LOBELLO: Somebody calls and says, 19 MAYOR BENJAMIN: This is something we 19 hey, there's a strange car parked on my street, 18:45:10 20 need to have continued conversation on, so we 18:47:34 20 can you check it out. 21 will meet and have a conversation, make sure 21 MR. OREL: Thank you. 22 we're doing everything correctly. 22 MS. MEADE: Was there an arrest from the 23 MR. ARMSTRONG: Okay. 23 breaking and entering? 24 MAYOR BENJAMIN: Thank you. All right. 24 CHIEF LOBELLO: I don't know to be 18:45:19 25 Go ahead. 18:47:43 25 honest with you. I haven't been in the office. Molnar Reporting Services, LLC (440) 340-6161 Molnar Reporting Services, LLC (440) 340-6161 07/14/2026 12:51:00 AM Page 13 to 16 of 45 4 of 12 sheets  17 19 1 I've been on the range the last couple days. And 1 that we are considered a hardship if we go that 2 I just got these stats today, so I don't have an 2 route? 3 answer for that. 3 MAYOR BENJAMIN: No, there's no official 4 MAYOR BENJAMIN: Any other questions for 4 designation that would put us in a fiscal 18:47:55 5 the Chief? Mr. Matty. 18:50:56 5 emergency or anything by the state. It's really 6 MR. MATTY: Mayor, I have one issue for 6 just a cash flow issue and making sure that we're 7 Council. In light of what Engineer Bierut 7 able to pay our bills. You know, as a small 8 indicated he's doing, at your June 30th meeting, 8 community, we're not the only ones that have this 9 I will be asking Council for a motion to permit 9 issue. As a small community with a small budget, 18:48:11 10 Mr. Bierut to go forward with the sale, with the 18:51:16 10 we need to make sure we have adequate cash flow 11 bid specs, prepare the bid specs for the sale of 11 throughout the year and receiving our advances 12 the Bratenahl Center since he already is doing 12 both from RITA income tax and from the county via 13 that. I won't do it tonight because we only have 13 property tax so we can budget accordingly and 14 four members. 14 make our payroll and everything else. 18:48:24 15 MAYOR BENJAMIN: Thank you. We have 18:51:35 15 MS. BURKE-JONES: Thank you. 16 talked and Fiscal Officer Cooks in the past has 16 MAYOR BENJAMIN: You're welcome. Let's 17 talked about our precarious financial position. 17 now move on to public comment related to agenda 18 And we've talked in the past about how Cuyahoga 18 items. Are there any comments tonight? 19 County is changing the way that they advance our 19 Hearing none, we will move forward with 18:48:45 20 distribution of property tax dollars. 18:51:49 20 the continuation of the public hearing for 21 So yesterday we convened a meeting with 21 Ordinances 4296 to 4300. Again, this is related 22 the County Fiscal Officer Mike Chambers along 22 to the rezoning of the Barbara Byrd-Bennett 23 with his Deputy Lisa Rocco. At that meeting, 23 Bratenahl Center property. 24 which was virtual, was Mr. Matty, Ms. Cooks and 24 Are there any public comments tonight 18:49:12 25 President Pro Tem Dews. We talked about our 18:52:08 25 related to that? Mr. Orel. Molnar Reporting Services, LLC (440) 340-6161 Molnar Reporting Services, LLC (440) 340-6161 18 20 1 challenges and how the change to eliminate the 1 MR. OREL: I was just wondering, I 2 advances that the county currently has poses a 2 didn't think about it the previous two readings, 3 cash flow challenge for us. 3 but is there any way at the visioning it came up 4 He reiterated the fact that the county 4 a couple of times that we have 13 gated 18:49:30 5 is not making any changes during this fiscal 18:52:23 5 communities. Is there any way to legislate or 6 year, fiscal year '26. We will continue to 6 zone so it doesn't become another gated 7 receive advances as we have in the past. And 7 community? 8 that he is very open, if we need it, to consider 8 MAYOR BENJAMIN: Depending on the 9 what he's calling a hardship clause for 9 development, a couple things come to mind. One 18:49:48 10 communities, for us to request an exception and 18:52:42 10 is it would be a lot more expensive for the 11 continue receiving our property tax advances. 11 Village if we were to do that. We would have to 12 He is currently working -- and I believe 12 install a public street, public infrastructure. 13 I sent an email to Council several months ago 13 Generally speaking, when something is a private 14 about this. He's currently working with the 14 development, whether it has a gate or not, so Oak 18:50:05 15 school districts now, because they're on a fiscal 18:53:02 15 Shore, for example, is a private HOA. They own 16 year that ends at the end of this month. Their 16 the street. They own the underlying 17 new fiscal year begins July 1st, so he's working 17 infrastructure. 18 with the school districts now. 18 Certainly it's a possibility, but I'm 19 And then this fall as we begin looking 19 not sure, especially with our financial 18:50:18 20 at our 2027 budget and looking at our expected 18:53:17 20 challenges currently we would be able to do that, 21 revenues from both RITA and the county, we can 21 but yes, it could be done. 22 come back to the county fiscal office and request 22 MR. OREL: Because I mean, as it was 23 that our advances continue as they have so we 23 brought up, we have 13 gated communities. It's 24 don't run into cash flow issues. 24 hard. It's us against them, basically, that's 18:50:41 25 MS. BURKE-JONES: Is there any problem 18:53:33 25 happening. Everybody is an island. Molnar Reporting Services, LLC (440) 340-6161 Molnar Reporting Services, LLC (440) 340-6161 5 of 12 sheets Page 17 to 20 of 45 07/14/2026 12:51:00 AM  21 23 1 MAYOR BENJAMIN: We have to do a better 1 MS. BURKE-JONES: Aye. 2 job of communicating with the HOAs and coming 2 MS. COOKS: Mr. Dews? 3 together as one Bratenahl. And we've been 3 MR. DEWS: Aye. 4 working on that. And we're scheduling, 4 MS. COOKS: Ms. Huffman? 18:53:47 5 especially on the issue, on the facilities 5 MS. HUFFMAN: Aye. 6 issues, we're meeting with -- I already met with 6 MS. COOKS: Mr. Kozinski? 7 Oak Shore HOA. We're all going out there and 7 MR. KOZINSKI: Aye. 8 meeting with -- we'll spend the summer and fall 8 MAYOR BENJAMIN: Okay. We have already 9 months meeting with the HOAs. 9 tabled Ordinances 4296, 4297, 4298, 4299, 40 and 18:54:04 10 MR. OREL: I appreciate all that, I do, 18:56:08 10 4300. And that brings us to public comment. 11 I honestly do. 11 MR. DEWS: You have item number four. 12 MAYOR BENJAMIN: It's a good suggestion. 12 MAYOR BENJAMIN: What did I miss? Oh, 13 It's a good question. 13 thank you. I skipped it for no reason. As has 14 MR. OREL: I mean, back in the day when 14 been alerted to the community, there will be a 18:54:11 15 I was involved in Council in the '90s and early 18:56:30 15 private fireworks event this Saturday evening as 16 2000s and I went around -- I went around getting 16 part of a wedding on the further eastern end of 17 petitions. That was before the demo project. I 17 the Village. And we need, as we have done in the 18 could go around and knock on doors and talk to 18 past, a motion to appoint Fire Marshal, a Captain 19 just about everybody, except for Bratenahl Place 19 Robert S. Ingersol to handle the inspections for 18:54:33 20 Two. Bratenahl Place One let me in, but 18:56:53 20 that fireworks event. 21 Bratenahl Place Two wouldn't. 21 MS. BURKE-JONES: Do we always -- just 22 So today I think I'd only be able to 22 as an individual ceremony, not ceremony, but 23 reach -- I don't even know. I can't even guess 23 event or do we just -- can we just like have 24 how many people I'd be able to reach. I think if 24 somebody available that is going to be the 18:54:46 25 I was lucky, I'd be able to reach 80 percent, 18:57:13 25 person? Molnar Reporting Services, LLC (440) 340-6161 Molnar Reporting Services, LLC (440) 340-6161 22 24 1 maybe, maybe, I'm just saying. 1 MAYOR BENJAMIN: Well, the fireworks 2 MAYOR BENJAMIN: Fully understood. It's 2 company and the resident are responsible for 3 a good question. Chief. 3 hiring the Fire Marshal, which is why it can be 4 CHIEF LOBELLO: Mark, Bratenahl Place 4 different. Now, we're working with the Village. 18:55:00 5 Two hardly let's us in to make you feel better. 18:57:29 5 I'm currently working to get our own Fire Marshal 6 (Laughter.) 6 on board. I wish it was the Fire Marshal who is 7 MAYOR BENJAMIN: Okay, very good. Are 7 handling this, but unfortunately, I think I 8 there any other public comment related to agenda 8 mentioned at another meeting, Captain Ingersol, 9 items? 9 who I think is great, is very busy and just feels 18:55:19 10 Hearing none, what is the desire of 18:57:48 10 like he would not be able to serve us well, so 11 Council? Would you like to close the public 11 I'm looking for an alternative to that. 12 hearing tonight so the matter can be considered 12 MS. BURKE-JONES: Okay. 13 at the next meeting or would you like to leave it 13 MAYOR BENJAMIN: So for now at least, 14 open one more time? 14 let's leave it at this. Once we bring on our own 18:55:32 15 MR. DEWS: I would go ahead and close 18:57:58 15 fire inspector, Mr. Matty, would we be able to 16 it, Mayor, and basically focus on July 30th, move 16 mandate for private fireworks that they go 17 forward on this. July 30 -- or June 30. I'm 17 through our fire inspector? 18 sorry. 18 MR. MATTY: Sure, if he's agreeable. 19 MAYOR BENJAMIN: Is there a motion to 19 MAYOR BENJAMIN: Okay. Very good then. 18:55:46 20 close the public hearing? 18:58:12 20 MR. MATTY: He or she I could say. 21 MR. DEWS: So move. 21 MAYOR BENJAMIN: Yes. All right. So 22 MS. BURKE-JONES: Second. 22 with that, is there a notion to appoint Fire 23 MAYOR BENJAMIN: It's been moved and 23 Marshal Captain Robert S. Ingersol. 24 seconded. Roll call on motion. 24 MS. BURKE-JONES: I so move. 25 MS. COOKS: Ms. Burke-Jones? 18:58:26 25 MR. KOZINSKI: Second. Molnar Reporting Services, LLC (440) 340-6161 Molnar Reporting Services, LLC (440) 340-6161 07/14/2026 12:51:00 AM Page 21 to 24 of 45 6 of 12 sheets  25 27 1 MAYOR BENJAMIN: It's been moved and 1 him in there and he's to write-up a nice big 2 seconded. Roll call, please. 2 list. 3 MS. COOKS: Ms. Burke-Jones? 3 MAYOR BENJAMIN: It's in the works. 4 MS. BURKE-JONES: Aye. 4 MS. MEADE: Since our fireworks 5 MS. COOKS: Mr. Dews? 19:00:15 5 Ordinance is not in compliance with Ohio law, if 6 MR. DEWS: Aye. 6 somebody wants to do sparklers or something on 7 MS. COOKS: Ms. Huffman? 7 July 4th, would they be ticketed? 8 MS. HUFFMAN: Aye. 8 MS. GOYANES: If you can find them. 9 MS. COOKS: Mr. Kozinski? 9 MS. MEADE: They're finding phone calls. 18:58:36 10 MR. KOZINSKI: Aye. 19:00:34 10 MAYOR BENJAMIN: There will always be 11 MAYOR BENJAMIN: Thank you. I had a 11 fireworks on the other side of the Shoreway. 12 blind spot there. I almost missed that one. 12 MR. MILLER: I have different view on 13 Okay. Public comment. Ms. Goyanes. 13 that. 14 MS. GOYANES: Do you know if those 14 MAYOR BENJAMIN: Sure. 18:58:46 15 fireworks will be on the lake like Shoreby has 19:00:40 15 MR. MILLER: Usually sparklers and stuff 16 done? 16 like that that are sold at local Walmart, they're 17 MS. RANNEY: The fireworks contractor is 17 called safe in synch fireworks. Some states 18 in the audience. 18 don't allow the type of pyrotechnics that we do. 19 MR. MILLER: My name is Rory Miller. I 19 Something like that that is sold, little kids can 18:58:53 20 work with Flashpoint Pyrotechnics. I've shot for 19:00:53 20 use it, usually aren't ticketed. They don't want 21 years now with Captain Ingersol. We've worked 21 to you do aerial effects on the 4th of July if 22 together for years. If you have any questions, I 22 the city has any type of moratorium on it. 23 can answer them for you. 23 MS. MEADE: I think our Ordinance 24 MS. GOYANES: I need to know because I'm 24 prohibited all fireworks. And then Ohio's law 18:59:01 25 going to watch from my place. 19:01:09 25 changed it and gave it a certain code and any Molnar Reporting Services, LLC (440) 340-6161 Molnar Reporting Services, LLC (440) 340-6161 26 28 1 MAYOR BENJAMIN: We're all going to 1 fireworks that were -- whatever it was. 2 Laura's condo. 2 MR. MILLER: One four and one three. 3 MS. GOYANES: Are they on the barge? 3 MS. MEADE: Yes, they were not 4 MR. MILLER: No, they're not on the 4 permitted, but we never changed our legislation 18:59:09 5 barge. They are on the back side of this 19:01:22 5 to comply with Ohio law. So I just wondered if 6 property by the water. Yes, you should be able 6 it's Phantom Fireworks, those kind of things, if 7 to see everything for the most part. 7 we can use them knowing that our law is not 8 MAYOR BENJAMIN: Wonderful. Ms. Meade. 8 compliant with Ohio law, that if there were phone 9 MS. MEADE: A few things. Do we have an 9 calls to the police, residents would not be 18:59:26 10 update on Sign-Lite what's happening or the C&Y? 19:01:37 10 ticketed. 11 MAYOR BENJAMIN: Currently they 11 MAYOR BENJAMIN: Do you have any 12 inspected. Did they come in for their permits? 12 objection, Chief, for sparklers, for 13 MS. RANNEY: They've come in for their 13 noncommercial? 14 permit. And I reached out to them last week. 14 CHIEF LOBELLO: Like the gentleman said, 18:59:40 15 They said they'll be asking for an inspection 19:01:48 15 sparklers, snap pops, even to the point of Roman 16 within the next couple weeks, so I'm expecting 16 candles, we're not going to hassle. We'll get 17 the next week we'll get Scott in there. 17 calls on it, but fireworks and instruments that 18 MAYOR BENJAMIN: In order to get Scott 18 small aren't going to draw the ire of neighbors. 19 in there, they have to pull a permit. We're 19 It's the large aerial ones. 18:59:54 20 getting them in here. Believe me, we have had 19:02:06 20 MS. MEADE: There will be some. 21 this conversation about the exterior on both 21 CHIEF LOBELLO: I know. 22 sides, including from the Shoreway. 22 MS. MEADE: Which is why it's being 23 MS. RANNEY: I have a feeling Scott 23 brought up now so we can have some understanding 24 wants to lump it altogether. We talked about 24 of what's okay and what would not be okay. 19:00:05 25 starting on the fence, but I think we need to get 19:02:18 25 CHIEF LOBELLO: I'm sorry, I will say Molnar Reporting Services, LLC (440) 340-6161 Molnar Reporting Services, LLC (440) 340-6161 7 of 12 sheets Page 25 to 28 of 45 07/14/2026 12:51:00 AM  29 31 1 this: Unless it is a huge aerial show like has 1 ThenDesign Architecture. We are going to be 2 happened before, most likely the officers are 2 posting all of the information online. And then 3 going to give a warning. Hey, your neighbors are 3 as soon as we get the report, the report back on 4 complaining, if it's illegal. And if we come 4 last week's meeting, we'll have a page online 19:02:36 5 back a second or third time, a citation will be 19:05:24 5 where all of that information will be posted. 6 issued. We did one last year, same house, but 6 We are looking at additional outreach. 7 for the most part, it's common sense. If it's a 7 We had talked about meeting with the HOAs, 8 huge destruction, then yeah, but for small tough, 8 meeting them where they are and having a 9 not. 9 conversation, because it is very important that 19:02:57 10 MS. MEADE: A warning. 19:05:38 10 we get to the HOAs and to the residents who live 11 CHIEF LOBELLO: Yeah, a warning. 11 in Bratenahl Place Two, we're discussing doing 12 MS. MEADE: If they're legal, why would 12 some community surveys to be able to make sure 13 you even get a warning? 13 that at the end of this process we have heard 14 CHIEF LOBELLO: We give people speeding 14 from as many residents as possible and get their 19:03:09 15 warnings all the time. As a matter of fact, we 19:05:55 15 input before any proposals are put forth by TDA. 16 did it 51 times last month. 16 And then especially before Council makes any 17 MS. MEADE: Okay. Then I didn't know if 17 final decisions. 18 anyone wanted to comment on the update for a 18 And again, as part of this, we want this 19 couple more utility boxes? Look like they've 19 process to be open and transparent. We want the 19:03:24 20 been new graphics. 19:06:16 20 residents to feel like they have been a part of 21 MAYOR BENJAMIN: Yes, on the 15th, the 21 the conversation, that they have a say in the 22 Bratenahl Community Foundation, thanks to 22 future of whatever decisions are made at the end 23 resident Tim O'Brien who organized that, the two 23 of the day. And again, no decisions have been 24 utility boxes that remain to be covered, leftover 24 made. 19:03:42 25 from last year have now been completed. So the 19:06:32 25 I'm sure that as individuals, just like Molnar Reporting Services, LLC (440) 340-6161 Molnar Reporting Services, LLC (440) 340-6161 30 32 1 one on the eastern end, which is the Northeast 1 residents, members of Council who are also 2 Ohio Regional Sewer District box and then the 2 residents, have their own personal opinion, but 3 AT&T box on the corner of Bratenahl Road and 3 this is an open process. No decisions have been 4 Lakeshore Boulevard. 4 made regarding renovating, you know, the options 19:03:59 5 MS. MEADE: Now, there is a utility box 19:06:49 5 to renovate, to close, to build new or to do a 6 on the eastern end, but it's up high. 6 combination of the both. Those are all areas 7 MAYOR BENJAMIN: Right. 7 that we are going to be looking at as we go 8 MS. MEADE: Is it going to get one? 8 through this process going forward. We'll see 9 MAYOR BENJAMIN: I don't think so. I 9 what the process is. 19:04:10 10 don't know if we want to take that risk. 19:07:13 10 TDA, as part of this process, they are 11 MS. MEADE: Okay. Then next, I didn't 11 looking at the past studies. They are updating 12 know if anyone wanted to comment or give any kind 12 the costs. So we had some costs to renovate in 13 of a recap on the facilities first meeting. 13 previous study. They are updating those costs. 14 MAYOR BENJAMIN: Yes, I was good to 14 So we will get those cost estimates. And then in 19:04:25 15 actually do that. We had a wonderful first 19:07:30 15 2022, we had the plan that gave us the cost for 16 meeting. We had about 70 residents in 16 building new construction. They're updating 17 attendance, which was more than at least I had 17 those costs as well. So we will have some 18 personally expected to be in attendance that 18 current cost estimates to do both. Ms. Lyons. 19 night. It was held in the gym. It was a hot and 19 MS. LYONS: Have you considered having 19:04:43 20 humid night, but it was the first of our four 19:07:51 20 one of the meetings at Bratenahl Place, because 21 community meetings. 21 that's the bulk of your voter base. 22 And the purpose of the meeting was to 22 MAYOR BENJAMIN: Yeah, I believe at 23 begin getting our community input. It was 23 least one-third if not more of the voters in this 24 primarily a listening session. I'm waiting to 24 Village are from Bratenahl Place and the Haskell 19:05:03 25 get the report out back from our consultant, TDA, 19:08:08 25 Newport development. Molnar Reporting Services, LLC (440) 340-6161 Molnar Reporting Services, LLC (440) 340-6161 07/14/2026 12:51:00 AM Page 29 to 32 of 45 8 of 12 sheets  33 35 1 MS. GOYANES: We won't let you in. 1 it's not a working pole. 2 (Laughter.) 2 So does it need to be there? Can that 3 MAYOR BENJAMIN: You know, speaking for 3 deer sign go somewhere else and remove the pole? 4 BP Two, I'm hoping that residents at BP Two can 4 MAYOR BENJAMIN: Coit Road east -- on 19:08:27 5 organize a community meeting and we can do there 19:11:01 5 Coit Road or on Lake Shore? 6 and over at BP One, it would be wonderful to do 6 MS. MEADE: West on Lake Shore. That's 7 the same thing. Yes, it's very important that we 7 the planter box. You'll see a deer crossing sign 8 meet with them. One second, we'll go to 8 and there's no -- it has no purpose, so should it 9 Councilwoman Huffman and then Ms. Meade. 9 be taken down? And it's not even a full size 19:08:46 10 MS. HUFFMAN: I want to add nor has any 19:11:16 10 utility pole, so it's kind of weird. 11 decision been made to tear the building down. 11 My last thing is I don't remember, I 12 And I think that needs to be said on the record. 12 know you and David had worked on a couple of 13 Like you said, Mayor, everyone has their opinion, 13 grants. I don't remember the timelines for 14 but at the end of the day, this is going to be a 14 decisions. Are you aware of -- can you remind 19:08:59 15 common decision for everybody whatever happens. 19:11:30 15 me? 16 So even though, you know, we had our 16 MR. DEWS: I looked in the paper. I 17 first visioning meeting and those were the kind 17 think the awards were already granted for the 18 of things that were talked about, I just want to 18 state portion of this. We weren't part of that. 19 make sure that it's reiterated that that hasn't 19 MAYOR BENJAMIN: Thank you for the 19:09:14 20 been decided on either. 19:11:41 20 reminder. So the state, what we're referring to 21 MAYOR BENJAMIN: Thank you. Ms. Meade. 21 is we had applied for potential funding for 22 MS. MEADE: Based on your recap, one 22 facilities in the state captain budget request. 23 thing that was misleading is one of the 23 And we said at the time that we knew it was a 24 consultants had mentioned that the facilities 24 real long shot. And that was the first time we 19:09:28 25 were designed for other purposes and not the 19:12:06 25 were applying for it. Usually it takes three, Molnar Reporting Services, LLC (440) 340-6161 Molnar Reporting Services, LLC (440) 340-6161 34 36 1 purposes that they're currently being used and 1 four, five times before you actually can get some 2 that is incorrect. Village Hall was designed as 2 funds. 3 a police station and administration. So wherever 3 So unfortunately, we were not 4 they got that information, it needs to be 4 successful. We've also applied for some Federal 19:09:42 5 corrected because it's going to spread. 19:12:20 5 funding, Federal earmark and we're still going 6 MAYOR BENJAMIN: Yeah, she misstated 6 through that process, but again, we believe it's 7 that. And she does know and she did know, I 7 a long shot. That does not mean that when the 8 think she was combining the Community Center in 8 time comes for us to make some decisions and 9 with that, but she does, because I've had many 9 we're looking at financing, either renovation or 19:09:54 10 conversations with her. She knows that Village 19:12:36 10 new construction, that we may have the ability to 11 Hall was built as a Village Hall. Good point, 11 get some other grants and some funds or maybe 12 though. 12 even some low-interest loans from the state or 13 MS. MEADE: Also, did you want to give 13 from the county. And we will look under every 14 any kind of reminder about Juneteenth? 14 rock for financing sources. 19:10:06 15 MAYOR BENJAMIN: So Juneteenth is a 19:12:56 15 MS. MEADE: Will the Heritage Home 16 Federal holiday and it is this Friday. And to 16 program entertain if there was some solution 17 all who celebrate, I think all Americans should 17 involving renovating one or both of our public 18 take part in celebration and educating themselves 18 buildings. 19 about Juneteenth, but Village Hall will be closed 19 MAYOR BENJAMIN: Unfortunately, they're 19:10:27 20 on this Friday in celebration of Juneteenth. I 19:13:09 20 only residential, yes, but the county has 21 will be working. Go ahead. 21 economic development loans, there have other 22 MS. MEADE: At Coit Road, if you make a 22 loans. There are other ways to finance. In some 23 left, right past the planter there, there's a 23 ways, it's almost like a grant, because if we can 24 utility pole. It has a deer crossing sign on it. 24 finance the sale of bonds at 3 percent, sort of 19:10:47 25 But that utility pole has nothing else, no wires, 19:13:23 25 like the restoration site, if the Village can Molnar Reporting Services, LLC (440) 340-6161 Molnar Reporting Services, LLC (440) 340-6161 9 of 12 sheets Page 33 to 36 of 45 07/14/2026 12:51:00 AM  37 39 1 finance the selling of a long-term bond for three 1 him. There was no warning. He had no protective 2 percent less than we could as a Village by going 2 gear on. There was no flagger. There were no 3 through a Port Authority, you know, that's an 3 cones. We were both going slow, but that 4 option. We're going to be looking at all of that 4 happened really quick. And how many DUIs have we 19:13:41 5 as soon as we start having some consensus from 19:16:27 5 had in this community? How many crashes have we 6 the community on how to move forward. 6 had? 7 MS. MEADE: Thank you. 7 CHIEF LOBELLO: Too many. 8 MAYOR BENJAMIN: One more thing. There 8 MR. OREL: Thank you. And distracted 9 is, as you've seen, there are hanging flower 9 driving, that just scared the hell out of me. 19:13:54 10 baskets. We had budgeted for some. And Mr. 19:16:36 10 I'll be honest with you, that scared the living 11 Maund went out and purchased as many as he could 11 crap out of me, because had there -- if there was 12 with our budget. And we're, of course, 12 an oncoming car, I don't know what I would have 13 financially challenged to do that. So we are 13 done. And I don't even think he knew what 14 looking for any residents who may want to adopt, 14 happened. 19:14:16 15 adopt a flower basket at strategic locations. 19:16:50 15 MS. HUFFMAN: Where was that? 16 I want to thank Pat Meade. Pat Meade 16 MR. OREL: About a month and a half ago. 17 paid for -- they're about $100 each. Pat Meade 17 MS. HUFFMAN: No, where? 18 paid for and actually went out and got the 18 MR. OREL: On Lakeshore Boulevard, the 19 hanging baskets for Dave Maund to hang at Coit 19 second blind curve heading west after Burton. 19:14:36 20 and Lake Shore at the end of her street. And I 19:16:59 20 MS. HUFFMAN: Okay. So this the curve 21 purchased one for Burton. 21 that I've been constantly talking about. 22 So if there are any members of Council 22 MR. OREL: This is the second curve 23 or any residents that are interested in 23 heading west. 24 purchasing a flower basket, I believe we can hang 24 CHIEF LOBELLO: Down by Holden Lane? 19:14:52 25 at Foster, let me know. Thank you, Pat, for 19:17:09 25 MR. OREL: Yes, the one right before Molnar Reporting Services, LLC (440) 340-6161 Molnar Reporting Services, LLC (440) 340-6161 38 40 1 going out there and actually driving all the way 1 Holden Lane. 2 out and picking them up for us. 2 MAYOR BENJAMIN: So Villages are covered 3 MS. MEADE: That's all right. 3 by the Ohio Public Employment Risk Reduction 4 MAYOR BENJAMIN: Mr. Orel. 4 program, but I don't believe we have to 19:15:05 5 MR. OREL: I was wondering, does 19:17:23 5 necessarily have a policy or have a specific 6 Bratenahl have a risk manager or safety 6 person, but I'll look into that. 7 coordinator as the State of Ohio requires? 7 MR. OREL: Because from what I saw, I 8 MAYOR BENJAMIN: So what do you mean by 8 looked it up before I got here, it does. And 9 risk manager? 9 service, if you have more than five employees are 19:15:16 10 MR. OREL: Well, the Ohio Public 19:17:39 10 required to have a safety committee as well. And 11 Employment Risk Reduction program requires that 11 there are other instances of safety violations, 12 communities have a risk manager or safety 12 but since Mr. Maund isn't here and he can't 13 coordinator for safety purposes for public 13 defend himself, I won't go into it now, but I 14 employees. 14 would like to discuss it with you afterwards, 19:15:31 15 The reason I'm bringing this up, and I 19:17:53 15 after the meeting tonight. 16 was hoping Mr. Maund would be here, because I'd 16 MAYOR BENJAMIN: That is fine. Look 17 like to have his input. And I was in my van. I 17 forward to it. Any other public comments? 18 just left Burton heading west on Lakeshore 18 Hearing none, oh -- 19 Boulevard. And it was after the second curve 19 MS. HUFFMAN: I have one public comment. 19:15:47 20 when I came very close to running into one of the 19:18:07 20 I just want to make sure that in our 21 service employees. 21 consideration of funding for these projects that 22 He was in the middle of the road coming 22 we're talking about, as you mentioned, there are 23 at me riding the standing blower. Had I been 23 Federal ways and state ways and grants and such, 24 distracted, had I sneezed, I would have hit him. 24 but I know from myself, I ran on hoping that all 19:16:06 25 Had there been an oncoming car, I would have hit 19:18:26 25 of the Council members and the Mayor and, you Molnar Reporting Services, LLC (440) 340-6161 Molnar Reporting Services, LLC (440) 340-6161 07/14/2026 12:51:00 AM Page 37 to 40 of 45 10 of 12 sheets  41 43 1 know, with the help of our solicitor, we could 1 MR. OREL: Just one other question. 2 come up with ways to outreach our most affluent 2 Whatever happened to the signs that came down for 3 residents to see if they would want to support 3 Burton? Remember I was asking if at least the 4 the works that we're trying to do around the 4 Bratenahl sign could go to the Bratenahl 19:18:44 5 Village that they also live in. 19:21:29 5 Historical Society. 6 I know that takes a lot of work, but 6 MAYOR BENJAMIN: I believe the signs are 7 it's worth doing. You never know who wants a 7 in the Service Department, though I believe on 8 naming right. You never know who has not been 8 the day I was told, on the day that the signs 9 asked. I don't think we've asked. In the number 9 were taken down, Burton somehow disappeared. And 19:18:58 10 of years I've been on Council, we have not asked 19:21:44 10 I'm not sure what happened to it. I'll follow-up 11 in that way of residents who may want to have an 11 with Dave Maund. 12 impact. 12 MS. BURKE-JONES: Somebody wanted it. 13 MAYOR BENJAMIN: So that certainly is 13 MAYOR BENJAMIN: Somebody wanted it. 14 very important. We have had those conversations. 14 But I believe everything is at the Service 19:19:13 15 And we have begun talking with a couple of 19:22:01 15 Department. 16 residents who could easily write some checks. 16 Okay. If there are no other public 17 Their question is how much does this whole thing 17 comments, is there a motion to adjourn? 18 cost? And so, you know, we're kind of in the 18 MR. DEWS: So move. 19 holding pattern where we need to be able to 19 MS. BURKE-JONES: Second. 19:19:33 20 provide them with the information on cost 19:22:08 20 MAYOR BENJAMIN: Moved and seconded. 21 estimates, this is how we're moving forward and 21 Roll call, please. 22 this is how much it costs, and then they can make 22 MS. COOKS: Ms. Burke-Jones? 23 a decision if they would like to. 23 MS. BURKE-JONES: Aye. 24 I 100 percent agree with you. It needs 24 MS. COOKS: Mr. Dews? 19:19:48 25 to be part of the plan. And we'll make that as 25 MR. DEWS: Aye. Molnar Reporting Services, LLC (440) 340-6161 Molnar Reporting Services, LLC (440) 340-6161 42 44 1 soon as we have enough information to be able to 1 MS. COOKS: Ms. Huffman? 2 go to them, we will do that and, of course, 2 MS. HUFFMAN: Aye. 3 report it to all of Council being a part of that. 3 MS. COOKS: Mr. Kozinski? 4 MS. HUFFMAN: To your point, I just want 4 MR. KOZINSKI: Aye. 19:20:04 5 to add that it doesn't necessarily have to be 19:22:18 5 (Meeting adjourned at 7:22 p.m.) 6 total dollars. It could be for whatever fees of 6 ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ 7 it or whatever parts of it that they want to 7 8 support. 8 9 MAYOR BENJAMIN: This one person who can 9 19:20:23 10 easily write a check that I spoke to, their 10 11 question was, and I didn't go to this person to 11 12 ask for money, I asked for advice. And their 12 13 response to me was you need to find out what the 13 14 costs are first, because that's the first 14 19:20:40 15 question that I, I, as that person, would ask. 15 16 Well, what is the ask? How much is the total 16 17 cost of the project? And then once we have those 17 18 answers, then we can consider a donation. 18 19 MR. DEWS: And in that fashion, yes, you 19 19:21:02 20 have to narrow down the direction that you're 20 21 going to have. And the thing is is that when you 21 22 go down that route, there's probably going to be 22 23 some ask of the donors and so forth specifically 23 24 on the direction. 24 19:21:17 25 MAYOR BENJAMIN: Thank you. Mr. Orel. 25 Molnar Reporting Services, LLC (440) 340-6161 Molnar Reporting Services, LLC (440) 340-6161 11 of 12 sheets Page 41 to 44 of 45 07/14/2026 12:51:00 AM  45 1 CERTIFICATE 2 3 4 I, Nancy L. 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