Downtown Advisory Committee
Regular MeetingCarbondale, IL · February 3, 2016
Minutes
MINUTES
Downtown Master Plan Advisory Committee
Wednesday, February 03, 2016, 6:00 p.m.
Carbondale Civic Center
200 South Illinois Avenue
Mr. Langowski called the meeting to order at 6:05 p.m.
Members Present: Bleyer, Bukowski, Clow, Cole, Colombo, Gorton, Gregory, Langowski,
Ramseyer, Schachel, Sheffer, Terry
Members Absent: Boeckman, Carter, Miller, Dr. Reddy, Sigler
Staff Present: Price, Taylor
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Approximately 17 persons in attendance.
1) Bring to order and roll call of members:
J. Langowski made his opening remarks. Tonight’s topic is to review the framework of
the Downtown Master Plan and provide comments to the consultant.
M. Bukowski called roll and determined a quorum was present.
2) Approval of minutes:
J. Langowski asked for a motion to approve the minutes from the November 18th, 2015,
meeting.
M. Cole made the motion and M. Bukowski seconded the motion and all were in favor.
3) Progress report on America’s Best Communities by Meghan Cole:
J. Langowski made introductory remarks. He introduced M. Cole to discuss the status
of the America’s Best Community project.
M. Cole stated the City was selected to be part of the top 50 but did not get to progress
further. It was a great opportunity for the City of Carbondale and we got a standalone
plan out of the process. She was proud of the work submitted.
J. Langowski thanked M. Cole for her information and congratulated the City on being a
quarter finalist.
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4) Introduction of representatives of Houseal Lavigne Consultants who will present their
update:
J. Langowski introduced Nikolas Davis, ASLA a senior associate with Houseal Lavigne
Associates, LLC.
N. Davis presented the agenda to be discussed this evening with an Overview Process.
He reviewed who the members of the consulting team were and who has helped to put
together the data they will see this evening. He also reviewed the steps that have been
taken over the process to gather public input from all areas of the community.
N. Davis discussed the structure of the framework plan. He stated there will be three
chapters. Chapter 1 will discuss the purpose of the plan and provide an introduction.
Chapter 2 will discuss the Influences and Opportunities. Chapter 3 will discuss Actions
and Recommendations.
N. Davis discussed Chapter 1. This chapter discusses the purpose of the Downtown
Carbondale Master Plan. The planning process that has been followed will be discussed
in this section of the plan. The public input and comments gathered by and from the
Downtown Advisory Committee (DAC) is listed and shown where in the plan it is
addressed. This section will also discuss the history of Carbondale, its regional setting,
the importance of the downtown, the role of the downtown and a more detailed
description of the Study Area.
N. Davis discussed Chapter 2. This chapter discusses the Influences and Opportunities in
the downtown. The chapter discusses the extensive Community Outreach process that is
occurring and discusses the reviews of all the past plans, studies and reports that were
completed. It also discusses the built form inventory that was conducted and the Market
and Demographic analysis that was performed. The existing land use and the current
zoning are also discussed in this chapter.
N. Davis discussed Chapter 3. This chapter discusses the Actions and Recommendations
in the downtown. The vision for Downtown Carbondale is discussed in this chapter.
Plans for the five main subject areas are also discussed. Those areas are: Land Use and
Infill Redevelopment; Arts and Entertainment District Framework; Parking and
Transportation; Pedestrian Mobility and Connectivity; and Beautification, Streetscape
and Signage.
N. Davis discussed the upcoming project timeline and the next steps to be undertaken.
He stated the consultants are working on Chapters 4 and 5 of the plan. Chapter 4 will
address the Downtown Branding and Promotional Strategy Framework. This chapter of
the plan will establish the criteria and/or steps for future marketing efforts. Chapter 5
will address the Downtown Implementation Strategy. It will discuss how to use the
Downtown Plan, provide an action agenda and implementation matrix and discuss
potential funding sources and implementation techniques. The next step for the first 3
chapters will be to revise and refine them after the input received tonight and from our
open house on Tuesday night. The plan will incorporate additional cross references,
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certain sections will be added or bolstered. The plan will be revised for typographical
errors and some of the imagery will be replaced. Some of the supporting graphics and
vignettes will be developed further or refined. He then discussed future deliverables.
The Downtown Carbondale Master Plan Draft will be delivered to the DAC and made
available electronically to the public on February 24, 2016. The Downtown Open House
and final DAC meeting and public hearing will occur on March 09, 2016. The final
Downtown Carbondale Master Plan will be recommended to the City Council by the end
of March, 2016.
N. Davis discussed the opportunities for providing feedback on this draft plan.
N. Davis turned the meeting over to J. Langowski and asked for any comments the DAC
may have on the plan.
J. Langowski discussed the process leading up to this point. He noted that the
Committee did provide some written comments to the consultant. J. Langowski then
asked for comments from the Committee.
G. Sheffer stated there were some very good ideas included in the plan. He stated it was
lacking a plan for drawing a larger variety of businesses to the downtown. The concept
of using the vacant lots for community gardens is a good idea as long as they are kept up
and look good even in the off seasons or downtown could not look the best it could look.
B. Bleyer stated he was tasked with reviewing the Functional Land Use section of the
plan. He asked if there had been any discussion with the land owners of the areas that are
indicated as redevelopment opportunities.
N. Davis stated the consultant had not reached out to the owners of the properties.
B. Bleyer asked if adopting codes that require a certain architectural look was being
considered.
N. Davis stated the Implementation section of the plan will address how to approach the
owners of the suggested redevelopment lots. He also noted that page 85 of the plan
covers the potential design guidelines.
B. Bleyer asked what the students’ main concerns were.
N. Davis stated Chipotle is the most requested restaurant. A lot of the students were
unaware that the City had a downtown. The students also suggested a more consistent set
of operation hours downtown so they don’t have to guess what businesses are open.
M. Bukowski stated she was focused on the Arts and Entertainment section of the plan.
She indicated that the plan gave good examples of different types of arts events and
activities that could happen in the downtown area. She felt it was skewed too much in
that direction without speaking about a central venue where these things could take place.
She wanted a specific location for a site to support outdoor Arts and Entertainment events
in the downtown.
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N. Davis agreed an outdoor venue does need to be located downtown.
E. Ramsayer discussed the future of Downtown Carbondale. She spoke about the need
to connect the Head and the Heart of downtown. She spoke of the need to connect
Southern Illinois University (SIU) and Southern Illinois Healthcare (SIH) into the
downtown. She spoke about the blacksmithing school at the University. She stated it is
the #1 blacksmithing program in the country. We should utilize that resource to create
wonderful artwork and create visually appealing bike racks, benches, and other street
furniture. She noted that the Carbondale Community Arts (CCA) has purchased a bike
rack from the school. She stated the City needs to support the Carbondale Music
Coalition and Carbondale Main Street and help establish an annual event downtown. She
stated she is happy the parking lot in the town square is proposed to be removed and a
green space is to be installed. She thanked J. Langowski and N. Davis for all the work
that has been put in this plan.
K. Schachel stated she enjoyed reading the plan. She is pleased with the detail the
consultants have gone into. She liked the native plant screens for the parking lots and
liked the inclusion of the food truck idea. She asked to have some way to try and prevent
vandalism like what occurred recently at the Japanese Meditation Garden.
D. Terry stated he liked their comments on landscaping and code enforcement. Mr.
Terry also mentioned that some guidelines for landscaping would be appropriate. This
would promote a consistent streetscape.
N. Davis stated it is currently addressed in the City Ordinances but suggestions will be
provided that could be adopted to improve the code.
K. Gregory stated the Cross Section examples were very good and showed how the
bicycle lanes can be integrated into the streetscape. She thought the addressing of the
Wayfinding was great. We should help students know when they are entering downtown.
D. Gorton commented on the housing sections. He felt commerce was the primary focus
of the plan and not encouraging entrepreneurship from our citizens to develop in our
downtown. He also felt that code enforcement was not addressed in the plan and that it
should have been. He stated that 1,200 rentals have been added to the community in the
last 5 years. He stated he is working with his neighborhood to bring Gigabit internet to
his area of the City. He stated he emailed a detailed list of his comments to the
Consultants.
J. Clow stated on page 159, he felt an additional gateway should be added at the entrance
of Highway 13 into Carbondale from the East.
N. Davis stated it was an oversight on the graphic and they intend on suggesting one
there.
J. Clow suggested that a wayfinding effort be enacted at between Walnut Street and
College Street. That is where the majority of students congregate. He suggested that
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sustainability must be included in the plan.
N. Colombo stated he was taken aback by the current amount of parking located in the
downtown. It truly is a perception that there is a lack of parking. He feels that the shared
parking concept is a great idea. Being able to use the bank parking lot after business
hours for central parking in downtown is a great idea. The general road conditions in and
around downtown need improvement. He suggested removing the median from West
Mill Street to improve connectivity.
M. Cole reviewed the comments made by the committee and made comments on them.
The City has a lot of quick, convenient and easy things for students to do, and we need
more of these uses in the downtown to build density and foot traffic. We need a common
resource for the public to access all upcoming events that are happening in town. The
neighborhoods are very important to downtown and the new housing options that are
going in are very helpful. Sustainability does need to be included in the plan.
J. Langowski discussed how the downtown is categorized by zones and opportunity sites
in the plan. He didn’t see a sufficient emphasis on collaboration among principal
stakeholders (HIU, SIH, adjacent neighborhoods, and the City) emphasized in the plan.
He wants to see an implementation plan that can be tracked for items to be completed
after the plan is adopted by City Council.
5) Comments from the public:
J. Langowski opened the floor to members of the community that had comments.
Don Monty (audience member) stated he is concerned the plan does not go into greater
specifics. It does not address the design ideas on a Carbondale block. He would like to
see what an entire block of Carbondale streets would look like. He felt there was a
discrepancy between the Request for Qualifications (RFQ) and the end product. He
expected to see concrete examples of branding and way finding. He suggested that the
City Staff could reach out to the individual redevelopment site owners to see if they have
plans for redevelopment and then include those plans in the Downtown Master Plan. He
made the point that the 1,200 rentals added to Carbondale were not all conversions. The
majority of those were from new apartment complexes that have been built recently.
N. Davis stated the plan will not include specific design proposals for individual blocks
but the plan will provide design ideas that can be used throughout downtown. They will
provide examples of other cities way finding and branding programs.
G. Scheffer asked if code enforcement will be addressed.
N. Davis stated it will be addressed in the implementation plan.
Ed Van Awken (audience member) stated he was here to speak to the committee on
behalf of the Preservation Commission. He read a letter from Brad Cole to the City
Council expressing the desire of the Preservation Commission to create a “Carbondale
Historic Park” located in the large green space behind the Carbondale Public Safety
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Center. He read a speech that was given at the dedication of the plaque located in front
of the Carbondale Public Safety Center. The plaque and his speech discussed some of the
history of the site and told of its significance to the history of Carbondale. Mr. Van
Awken then stated he was speaking on his own behalf and invited the student members of
the DAC to come to the next Preservation Commission meeting on the 8th of February.
Jane Adams (audience member) stated the issue of flooding that occurs in downtown
was not addressed in the plan. She was encouraged that pervious pavement was
encouraged. She stated the flooding problem could potentially be solved using a
“WOW” factor to bring people into downtown. She noted the phrase “students and
faculty” was used often. She wanted to make sure that “students, faculty and staff” is
considered as there is a large difference between the two.
J. Langowski asked if the audience had any further comments. Seeing none, J.
Langowski closed the floor to comments from the audience. He turned the meeting over
to N. Davis for a review of the upcoming schedule.
N. Davis reviewed the upcoming schedule. He stated the Downtown Carbondale Master
Plan Draft will be delivered on the 24th of February, 2016. The next meeting will be on
the 9th of March, 2016. That will be the last chance for any public comment and will be a
public hearing for the plan. The Final Downtown Carbondale Master Plan will be
delivered to the City Council at the end of March, 2016.
J. Langowski thanked N. Davis and stated he is looking forward to the branding and
implementation chapters.
N. Davis thanked the Committee for its continued enthusiasm and encouraged them to
maintain that enthusiasm to get the plan implemented.
6) Final comments from members of the DAC:
There were no final comments from the members of the DAC.
7) Announcement of next meeting, date, time and location:
J. Langowski announced that the next meeting will occur on March 9th, 2016 at 6:00 in
the same room.
8) Adjournment:
J. Langowski asked for a motion to adjourn the meeting.
M. Cole made the motion to adjourn the meeting. E. Ramseyer seconded the motion
All were in favor.
The meeting adjourned at 7:55 pm.
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Agenda
AGENDA
Carbondale Downtown Master
Plan Advisory Committee
February 3, 2016
City Hall / Civic Center
200 South Illinois Avenue, Room 108
6:00 p.m.
1. Bring to order and roll call of members
2. Approval of Minutes – November 18, 2015
3. Progress report on the America’s Best Communities by Meghan Cole
4. Introduction of representatives of Houseal Lavigne Consultants who
will present their update:
a.) Present the Downtown Carbondale Framework
b.) Results of Community Open House on February 2, 2016
c.) Review key recommendations and strategies
d.) Take questions and comments from DAC
e.) Discuss remaining sections to be developed and timeline for the Draft
Plan
5. Comments from the public
6. Final comments from members of the DAC
7. Announcement of next meeting, date, time and location
8. Adjournment