Liquor Advisory Board
Regular MeetingCarbondale, IL · July 19, 2021
Minutes
CITY OF CARBONDALE, ILLINOIS
LIQUOR ADVISORY BOARD
Minutes of the Regular Meeting
Monday, July 19, 2021
The City of Carbondale’s Liquor Advisory Board held a meeting on Monday, July 19, 2021, in Room 103
of Carbondale City Hall, 200 South Illinois Avenue. Chair Donald Monty called the meeting to order at
2:03 p.m. with the following-named members of the Board present/absent:
1. Roll Call
Present: John Mills, Mark Robinson, Tasis Karayiannis, and Don Monty
Absent: Steve Payne (Three Vacancies)
A quorum was available to take action on the agenda items. City Staff present for the meeting included
City Clerk Jennifer Sorrell, Lieutenant Anthony Williams, Community Development Manager John
Lenzini, and City Attorney Jamie Snyder,
2. Approval of Minutes from the L.A.B. Meeting of March 5, 2020
J. Mills moved, T. Karayiannis seconded, to approve the minutes of the L.A.B. meeting of March 5,
2020. VOTE: All voted aye; motion declared carried.
3. Election of Chair and Vice-Chair
John Mills nominated Don Monty as Chair and Mark Robinson as Vice Chair.
J. Mills moved, T. Karayiannis seconded, to elect Don Monty as Chair and Mark Robinson as Vice
Chair.
VOTE: All voted aye; motion declared carried.
4. Review and Discussion of Title Two Liquor Code Rewrite
The City Clerk reminded the Board of the purpose of the rewrite of the Liquor Code. Chair Monty
noted that he was not able to determine what had been removed from the existing Code with the
proposed draft language.
Note from Clerk: Recommendations in bold are by more than one member of the Board.
Control Premises – There was a question about the areas of responsibility for a license holder extending
into public property. The City Attorney stated that arguably it could extend to publically-owned
property if it can be determined the action was by one of the licensee’s patrons, staff members, or the
licensee themselves. The Clerk noted that continued patterns of behavior which demonstrate that the
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licensee is not attempting to manage their patrons’ behavior in the control premises could be considered
as a factor when considering renewal applications.
Private Function – There was a question about whether the definition of Private Function would prohibit
gatherings of over 50. The Board recommended adding clarifying language to this definition.
It was suggested that the definitions of primary use and secondary use be included in the definition
section in addition to the definitions already defined in the Classification section. The Clerk explained
that several definitions had been removed. Historically, the Codes were overwritten and very detailed,
but there are few people who read things very closely and cities are starting to write their municipal
codes more simply with as little text as possible.
There was a question about the use of laws, rules, and regulation in Section 2-2-1.B. It was suggested
that the “two authorized responsible contacts” be added to those who can accept service of process in
Section 2-2-3.D.2 and 2-2-3.H. Staff agreed that would be a good addition to the section.
The Board agreed that of the two options identified for Section 2-2-3.F, that Option 2 is clearer
for future users of the process and to codify the process to ensure consistent application as
changes occur in staff and elected officials. There was a suggestion to add Step 4 in Option 2 which
addressed the matter of the issuance of an Order.
A question about how the bond referenced in 2-2-3.I is handled. The City Attorney explained that the
payment is placed in an escrow account until the conclusion of any appeal. There was a suggestion to
add language explaining that the summary suspension referenced in 2-2-3.H for nonpayment of fines
and fees is not subject to the evidentiary hearing provided for in 2-2-3.B.
There was a suggestion to add clarifying language in 2-2-3.J, specifically, “In any case in which a
licensee appeals a suspension or revocation by the Local Liquor Control Commission that is the appeal
of a second or subsequent suspension or revocation….”. The City Attorney indicated that he would like
to make the section clearer, but as the language is specifically part of the State Code, it may be struck
down. The Board asked about the status of appeals of revocations.
CHAPTER THREE – LIQUOR ADVISORY BOARD
2-3-2: Members; Qualifications; Terms
B. Student members – The Board remarked on how challenging it has been to fill these vacancies and
that more often than not, those appointees failed to attend the meetings. The Board suggested reducing
the two student appointments to one appointment. It was noted that these positions were established to
provide opportunities for student input on the subject of alcohol, but that has been less of an interest
with fewer students and with the students of today having less of an interest in alcohol. L.A.B. –
recommendation to limit the student positions to one.
2-3-3: Powers and Duties of the Liquor Advisory Board – The Board indicated that they have an issue
with providing an advisory opinion on renewal applications only, per subsection B. It was noted that
the change in the Powers and Duties was to expedite the issuance of an initial license. The Board asked
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that the amended language be reconsidered so that the L.A.B. could conduct a review of all liquor
licenses, new and renewal. Further, it was suggested that 2-3-3.F be amended to provide for Board
review of proposed revisions of the Code pertaining to alcoholic liquor and make recommendations on
such proposed revisions.
CHAPTER FOUR – APPLICATIONS AND LICENSING
Mark Robinson exited at 2:56 p.m.
2-4-3: Application – There was a suggestion to remove “in writing” from subsection A: Form;
Procedure, noting that handwritten applications are often illegible. The Clerk noted that a fillable PDF
is available to applicants and that by and large, the majority of applications are now completed online.
2-4-3.D.5 – there was a question about whether “other sources” of anticipated gross revenue had to be
itemized or broken out by category.
2-4-3.D.6 – there was a question about whether the language should also include video gaming; it was
noted that video gaming is included as part of “entertainment”.
The Board noted that they had asked for the inclusion or addition a business plan and/or a more detailed
financial plan, noting that this had long been a request from the Board. Staff noted that this had been
discussed, but there were concerns expressed about it being a possible barrier to entry for individuals.
Suggested language was “A detailed financial plan shall be submitted. The plan shall include specific
sources of income to finance the business construction, startup, and operation and the various expenses
therefor. The plan shall include the first year of operation. The financial plan shall be considered as
confidential and only reviewed by Staff processing the application and member of the Liquor Control
Commission.” It was noted that 2-4-5.C.3 includes as a criterion for determining whether an application
should be approved, the “sufficient financial assets to maintain the proposed liquor establishment” are
a factor. Without a financial plan, how is the Commission to make that determination? It was noted that
the Board has seen from experience who have no idea what it will cost them to operate and that sets
them up for failure. Further, the availability of resources at the University, such as the Small Business
Development Center, which could provide such assistance. The Board recommended the
requirement to include such a financial plan.
2-4-4 – Ineligibility for License – There was a suggestion to combine both Option 1 and Option 2.
2-4-7: Liquor License Classifications and Fees – there was a request for a listing of the current licensed
facilities and which new classification each would fall under. The Clerk stated that she did have a
listing, but it was not presently available.
2-4-7.A.1 - On-Premises Consumption – it was noted that there was an asterisk by the entry age of 19;
this was due to the Carbondale Music Advisory Committee’s recommendation to lower the entry age
to 18 years of age, which has not yet been taken up by the City Council. Further, the proposed
Entertainment District Ordinance also provided for an entry age of 18.
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2-4-7.A.3 – On-Premises Restaurant – there was a remark about the minimum percentage of sales of
nonalcoholic beverages and food is not yet determined; the current required percentage is 51%. There
was also a question about how video gaming revenues would impact the minimum percentages.
2-4-7.D.2 – Temporary Event Licenses – there was general discussion about how this classification
might be utilized during community events, SIU events, and allowing for sponsorships of those events.
2-4-7.E - Temporary Event Modification – examples of the currently existing modifications were
provided.
2-4-7.E.3 - Alcohol Free Night – there was a suggestion to change “Chair” to Chair of the Local Liquor
Control Commission.
2-4-7.E.4 - Under Age/All Age Temporary Permit – of the two options of fourteen or sixteen, the Board
consensus was for the age of sixteen.
5. Citizens’ Comments
The Board members present indicated their general availability. The goal is to meet in the first week of
August.
6. Adjournment
Meeting adjourned at 3:56 p.m.
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Jennifer R. Sorrell, City Clerk Date Approved
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Agenda
CITY OF CARBONDALE, ILLINOIS
LIQUOR ADVISORY BOARD
Monday, July 19, 2021 - 2:00 p.m.
Civic Center Room 103, 200 South Illinois Avenue
AGENDA
1. Roll Call
2. Approval of Minutes from March 5, 2020
3. Election of Chair and Vice-Chair
4. Review and Discussion of Title Two Liquor Code Rewrite
5. Citizens’ Comments
6. Adjournment