Public Safety Committee
Regular MeetingCharleston, SC · December 1, 2016
Minutes
PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE
December 1, 2016
A meeting of the Public Safety Committee was held this date at 3:35 p.m., at City Hall, First Floor
Conference Room, 80 Broad Street.
Notice of this meeting was sent to all local news media.
PRESENT
Councilmember Kathleen Wilson, Chair, Councilmember Dean Riegel (arrived at 3:49 p.m.),
Councilmember A. Peter Shahid Jr., and Mayor John Tecklenburg. STAFF: Chief Karen Brack, Charleston
Fire Department, Chief Greg Mullen, Police Department, Rick Markiewicz, Director of Safety
Management, Susan Herdina, Assistant Corporation Counsel, and Bethany Whitaker, Council Secretary
The meeting was opened with a moment of silence by Councilmember Wilson.
Approval of March 3, 2016 Minutes
On the motion of Mayor Tecklenburg, seconded by Councilmember Shahid, the Committee voted
unanimously to approve the March 3rd minutes.
Review of Vehicle Safety Task Force Report
Rick Markiewicz said that the Task Force had already presented the report to Mayor Tecklenburg and
had been in front of the department heads. The report was brought to the Public Safety Committee
because of a fatality of a temporary employee assigned to the City in Environmental Services, who was
collecting garbage. The Mayor asked the Task Force to come together and focus on the Vehicle Safety
Policies and Procedures in the departments and divisions throughout the City. The other departments
sent their policies and procedures and they were reviewed. They researched what they could do for
other State and Federal agencies such as insurance companies, private sectors, and other environmental
services. After they reviewed those, they had a pretty good picture on what they were missing and what
they could do better on. There were 15 topics that kept coming up, and the focus was that, whatever
they came up with needed to be achievable. The 15 points were consolidated down to 8 achievable
points.
The first recommendation that the Task Force came up with was the Safety Culture and how it could be
driven by the executive level management for the employees throughout the City. Because the focus
was on driving, they wanted to focus on a Driver Safety Campaign to get the employees involved, but it
would not stop there. It would trickle down to a general safety statement that would focus on injuries as
well. The reality was that studies said that once you started changing the safety culture, it would take an
average of seven years. It was not a quick change but it was something they were passionate about.
They had a lot of things in place and they had already kicked that off. They started a Safety Slogan
Campaign focusing on driver safety that was revised, finalized, and sent out the day before the Public
Safety Committee meeting. By the time he had left that day they had 22 people submitting slogans. The
employees were getting enthused about it, which was what was needed for a good safety culture. They
were planning on selecting a slogan on January 17th. The Safety Review Committee would get all of them
a week in advance, and then would vote on the slogan that they thought was the catchiest and would
apply the most to the situations with their employees. They needed the Mayor’s help to kick it off and
had talked to him about that.
The second recommendation was Responsibility for Safety with Additional Personnel. There were only
two people in the Safety Management Division; Rick and Candace. The Police Department had their
personnel and the Fire Department had dedicated safety personnel, but as far as general employees,
they wanted to get additional safety officers to focus on Public Service and Parks. They said that because
that was the biggest exposure they had, aside from Police and Fire. They had one position that had been
budgeted for and they were waiting for City Council approval to see if it would go through. His
understanding was that instead of assigning them to Public Safety and Parks, they would be in the Safety
Management Division, so they would be able to help coordinate and find out where they were going.
They were starting with driver safety but it would trickle down to every element of the Safety
Management Division for the employees, including injuries and hazard assessments.
Councilmember Wilson asked if that person would have a special focus towards Public Safety and Parks.
Mr. Markiewicz stated that he and Candace had a good grasp on the other departments and divisions,
but that was the position they wanted them to be in.
The third recommendation was the General Policies. The City had a good general written policy and
instead of having all of those separate, they wanted to combine things like cell phone use, electronic
use, seatbelts, smoking, and texting. An element to that was the substance abuse and drug testing
policies for people who were involved in collisions. That element was done and would be incorporated
in the general policies. The specific policies that were going to be talked about would supplement the
general policies.
Councilmember Shahid asked about the State Reserve Fund, and if they had a protocol or training in
place. Susan Herdina stated that the Insurance Reserve Fund and other Insurance entities in the State
did offer training. Part of the recommendation was that they had integrated training. It was a program
that they weren’t aware of until this came about so it was a good thing. They would definitely be taking
advantage of it. Councilmember Shahid stated that it would become an issue if they were not in
compliance with what they wanted the City to do. Ms. Herdina said that at that point, they had not had
an issue with them, but they were certainly taking advantage of the training and would enhance their
conversation about that. Mr. Markiewicz stated that he hadn’t made copies but this was from the
Insurance Reserve Fund. They had an Instructor Certification Program, and they suggested that if they
had a large staff, to send people to get certified, and that was one of the topics they were looking at to
do.
The fourth recommendation was the Driver-Operator Training Selection and Qualifications. This would
supplement the general policy. The important thing was that it had specific training procedures for most
pieces of equipment such as garbage trucks, fork-lifts, mowers, etc. It didn’t have to be fancy, but it
needed to be something that was reliable. They could have standardized training, so each employee that
used that piece of equipment could operate it and if they saw something that was not safe, they could
stop the operation and contact their supervisor. The benefit to this was that if they had more people
trained on different pieces of equipment, they could be interchangeable throughout different
departments, especially if they had something happen again. They wouldn’t have to worry about
training somebody when it was too late. The Safety Officer would help out quite a bit. Candace was
certified through the South Carolina National Safety Council for distracted drivers, and they had just
implemented that. They had a Vehicle Safety Review Board, and if an employee came before that board
that met the criteria and somehow contributed to it, then each quarter they would have a cap for each
employee, and have them go through the 4 hour Distracted Driver Program. Fleet would be a big portion
of making sure that they were capturing the correct equipment, and they would know which piece of
equipment each department had so they would not miss a piece of equipment.
The fifth recommendation was Driving and Operating Records and History. Human Resources had
requested this in the budget already. With the DMV, it used to be free annually for them to check the
driving status of employees, but that was no longer an option because it was not free anymore. For one
time, an annual check would be $7,000 for all of the employees. For $10,000, they would enroll in a
program and each week they would get updates of the drivers they submit, and they would let them
know if there was status in the employee’s driving, or if they were involved in a motor accident. For
$3,000 extra dollars they would get updates regularly, and know if employees were not following
procedures.
Councilmember Wilson asked what the yearly fee was and how long the $10,000 was extended. Ms.
Herdina stated that the $10,000 was for one year. The issue they had right now was that while they ask
the employees to report any vehicle accidents they had on or off the job, they were finding that this was
not happening. They thought that at the end of the day, it would be worth spending the money for the
program, because they would be able to respond more quickly to the accidents.
Mayor Tecklenburg stated that this would be automatic with the program, where before, they wouldn’t
find out about an accident until they did the annual check. Ms. Herdina stated that right now, the only
thing they checked regularly were the CDL licenses to make sure they were not expired. This would
apply to everybody who drives in the City.
Mr. Markiewicz said that Fleet had a program called Collective Fleet. They were trying to work out the
best person to document this and make sure that they could run accurate reports, but they would be
able to put in an employee’s name and unit number. They didn’t have an accurate way right now to see
if there were trends per employee without going through to see if it was documented correctly or not.
They were looking at the Collective Fleet programs for next year and would reach out to their sales
representative to see if they could help the program to get reliable information on employees.
Councilmember Riegel arrived at 3:49 p.m.
The sixth recommendation was Reporting, Investigation, and Discipline. Right now, the employees
involved in a collision or vehicle damage were supposed to contact their supervisor and fill out a form.
They then would contact Law Enforcement (LE) and LE does a report. A copy of that went to Candace
and Mr. Markiewicz. The employees then find out if they meet the criteria for drug testing and contact
Fleet. Fleet would come out to see if a dollar amount categorizes them to get tested and if anything else
didn’t apply, and then Fleet would take the damage and the information. Scott Newsome was the one
who determined what collisions and damage came before the Safety Review Board which the Vehicular
Review Board was a sub-committee of. The Board listened to the employee, asked questions, and voted
between zero and four points. Zero was that the employee couldn’t do anything to avoid the collision or
damage. Two was given if they could have done something to prevent it and four was a blatant violation
of the law such as blowing a stop sign or a light. The current protocol was that if an employee received
six points within a twelve month period, or ten within two years, that their driving privileges would
suspended for 180 days the first time, and the second time it could mean termination. If their only job
was to drive, then that could be termination on the first offense. That hadn’t happened since he had
been working and he didn’t know if anyone had fallen into that category. They weren’t intentionally
trying to get rid of employees but they wanted to correct the behavior that contributed to the collisions
and damage. The Safety Review Board was looking to see if there was a better way to find the root
cause and get that out to the employees and their supervisors. In the meantime, he and Wes Morgan
came up with a form where if an employee got an injury that they contributed to, or could have
prevented, when the Board made the recommendations, that form would be sent off to the department
head. They then had twenty days to come back and say that they disagreed with it, and they could go to
the Committee and say that they had heard them.
Councilmember Shahid asked if, in the event of a violation, they were taking any sort of corrective
measures at that point. Mr. Markiewicz confirmed that they were. Councilmember Shahid asked if they
were addressing the violation even if it was minor. Mr. Markiewicz said yes and that if the employee
came before the Board for an injury or collision, and they were found to contribute to it or there were
points assessed to it, then that report went out to the department head with recommendations from
the Board after listening to the employee to see if they could re-train them or do hazard analysis.
Councilmember Shahid asked if that happened if it was something minor and Mr. Markiewicz said yes.
Councilmember Shahid asked if the employee received a letter of caution or if there was a warning that
would be filed. Mr. Markiewicz said yes and that it was simple. If an employee wasn’t wearing a pair of
gloves and got a sliver, they would get recommendations based on that. So this went down to the
smallest thing someone could think of.
The seventh recommendation was Inspections and Maintenance. With the incident in July, the pre-test
and post-test checks followed the DOT requirements, but on there they didn’t have a back-up alarm
specified. Since then, they had already made the changes to have that put on the forms. That was done
as soon as they identified it. In addition to that, they were coming up with a “go, no-go” checklist. They
wanted to make it clear to employees that if something was not working on the vehicle, they could not
take it out. They had to go to the shop and get another one, or have them fix it right away. One of the
examples was the windshield wipers, because if it was a sunny day, you could go, but if it was raining
out, it would be a no-go. They were trying to figure out how to do that that made it simple for the
employee to figure out, without constantly having to question it, to see if it would work. For the
maintenance, the perception was that if they brought the vehicle to the shop, they wouldn’t get it back
in time, and then they were down a day of work. So they were still trying to figure this out with the “go,
no-go” and keep everyone moving throughout the day with what they needed.
The eighth recommendation was Enforcement and Review. If they didn’t have the enforcement of the
discipline, there would be people who didn’t follow rules, and if they were not made aware of it with
consequences they would never follow the rules. They were working with HR for progressive discipline
to establish if there was a trend or if it was a one-time thing. This would need to be looked at on an
annual basis to make sure that a process hadn’t changed that nobody knew about, and make sure they
weren’t putting employees in harm’s way if something had changed and wasn’t identified.
Councilmember Shahid asked if the policy would be reviewed by each employee that was driving a city
vehicle. Mr. Markiewicz said that they had discussed that and they had employees that drive every day,
as well as employees that drive less regularly. They were trying to figure out how to capture that and
make it feasible to get everybody in the class. The class for defensive driving was an 8 hour course the
first time, which was a full day, and every 3 years there would be a 4 hour refresher course. When they
brought that up, there were a few department heads that made a little noise because they didn’t know
how they would give up an employee for 8 hours or even 14 employees for 8 hours. They were trying to
figure out how it would work for the people that were driving all of the time. He thought that what they
were leaning towards was that they wanted to get the people who had the greatest exposure to driving
taken care of first. After that, they could approach how to cycle through other employees.
Councilmember Riegel said that this would be a good investment of time if they had fatalities that their
employees caused and that four to eight hours might be a minimal investment, given the alternative.
Councilmember Shahid asked if the Police and Fire Departments had different policies. Chief Brack
stated that they already had some of the things in place that Mr. Markiewicz had talked about. They had
the yearly checks for licenses to make sure everyone was current and they did drug testing and random
testing after every accident. Many of the things existed for them but it was still a very positive
movement, and there would be things in the program that their folks would be subject to as well. She
stated that she thought it was great.
Mr. Markiewicz said that when they got the policies and procedures back from departments throughout
the City, the Police and Fire Departments were on top of the things that they had written down, and
documentations that they provided. Second was Public Service. They had documentation on how to
back up a garbage truck and certain other procedures. Traffic and Transportation had the pre and post
check inspections, but the other departments and divisions just followed the generic City policy and
didn’t have anything specific, especially in writing.
Councilmember Riegel stated that he had found out that they were having a shortage of CDL drivers and
asked if that was still a problem. He stated that he had given some names and trainers to Human
Resources to try to mitigate the problem. The problems he had seen with the CDL drivers were that they
were only making $41,000 and they could go work at the port all day long for $60,000, and be home in
bed that night. It was an income issue. He stated he had hoped they were mitigating the problem, but it
seemed as though they weren’t. Mr. Markiewicz stated that he couldn’t accurately say that, but that
from what he was hearing, it was still a problem. Councilmember Riegel stated that it was a matter of
economics and that he thought the trainer had retired from Fleet who trained drivers. Mr. Markiewicz
said that he wasn’t sure who that would have been. The supervisors would help the employees get their
CDL, but he wasn’t aware that there was one employer who was a trainer. Councilmember Riegel stated
that it was typically a certified individual who did the training. There was a man who was a certified DOT
trainer that he had given to Kay Cross to reach out to. This man was willing to come in to fill the gap for
a fee until they could get their own in-house staff. He said he knew that was a problem; because
whoever the in-house trainer was had done a marvelous job. The problem they were having was that
many of the drivers were aging out and retiring. Mayor Tecklenburg stated that they did not have an in-
house trainer when he became Mayor. He thought if they had one, it had been some years ago. Part of
the hope, was that the new employee could help fulfill that role. Councilmember Riegel said that he
would check with Ms. Cross and see what she had been talking about.
Mayor Tecklenburg said he wanted to commend Mr. Markiewicz and the Task Force. The
recommendations they had come up with were very solid and it was a timely review for the City to do.
As Chief Brack mentioned, even the Departments that had their own act together better than others,
had learned from them and everyone else in the process. This was what led to the recommendation of
extra public safety and an employee for the City in this year’s budget. Councilmember Riegel stated he
also wanted to commend Mr. Markiewicz on this.
Mayor Tecklenburg asked if all of City Council had received this and that it would be a good idea for
Council to have access to this document because it was a very good document. Mr. Markiewicz said it
was going to them. Chairwoman Wilson said that in terms of getting the chance to read through this,
there were Councilmembers who wondered what went on in the Committee sometimes and that they
could distribute it electronically. Councilmember Shahid said it sounded comprehensive.
Councilmember Riegel asked if they could see a reflection of reduction in the vehicular insurance rates
and liability rates. Mr. Markiewicz said that Fleet Management handled the vehicle insurance, so he
would have to ask them that question. From his perspective, he would like to see a tremendous
reduction in our injuries.
Updates:
Fire Department- Chief Karen Brack
Chief Brack stated that she only had a couple of short updates on things they had been working on for a
while. The first was a program that they were lucky enough to have extra funds for. The program was
called TeleStaff. This program was a scheduling program they wanted for efficiency in scheduling their
people for overtime and also for accountability. They had been working on the implementations
program for this year and were ready to put it out fully. What it would do, was hire back according to
need. They were taking the human element out of it and making it completely electronic. The computer
would follow a paradigm and model that they had set, would make the phone call, and then try to hire
an individual for that place. It would fill vacancies by an order that they had set up in the system. It
would do a few things for them such as: taking off administration load from the chiefs, cost-savings, and
feeding everything back to the reports they got from the consolidating dispatch center. It would
automatically populate all of the incident reports. They had been excited about it. They would run the
program for about 6 months to make sure that everything was working right, because it kept up with all
of the hours of the employees.
She would like to see it used as electronic time keeping in about 6 months. That was an area that they
could gain efficiency because they were still using paper time sheets. Every two weeks the Battalion
Chiefs had to deliver 300 timesheets and then pick them up. One small glitch was what they called Gear
Time, which was the time in the morning when the guys put their equipment on and off the trucks. They
were working on that, but she was excited for the potential to get to electronic timesheets.
Councilmember Riegel stated that they used their phones as their time clock.
Chief Brack stated that this did not interface with the current program they had. It had the potential to
do that. She stated she didn’t know if they would get that far with it, because they were the only
organization that used that for that purpose. She thought that it had potential to go down that road in
the future and that had been an exciting piece of software they were trying to use, because they had so
many work sites.
The second update was that one of the grants that they had brought to Council last session was a grant
for training and equipment for SWAT paramedics. They had put body armor on all of the trucks. If they
could obtain a grant, the direction was to go towards having trained SWAT medics that could help in
active shooter situations and then work closely with the SWAT team so they could support their efforts
and try to help them out in life-threatening situations, and potentially make a difference in outcomes.
They were excited about that grant and the opportunity.
Councilmember Riegel asked what other departments in the Lowcountry had personnel that have vests
and what the other departments were doing. Chief Brack stated that North Charleston had just started
putting body armor on their vehicles. Mount Pleasant had not gone there yet but Charleston County
EMS did have body armor on all of their medic units. They had a few SWAT medics as well. Mayor
Tecklenburg stated that Mount Pleasant was in the exploratory stage like everyone else. Chief Brack said
that this was not as progressed here as it was in other areas. They were all finding their way through this
together and in tandem, especially with North Charleston, Mount Pleasant, and the City.
Councilmember Riegel asked what their needs were as far as the grant and things such as vests, budget,
and expense. He said if they needed it, then the City needed to get it. Chief Brack stated that she
appreciated that and that they received the vests through Council a month before. They had those, but
they didn’t have the carriers. CPD lent them carriers so they could get the plates out. The grant was for
about $98,000 and it would need a 10% match. They were waiting on that, and most of it was for
equipment and training. The training was the big piece to this. If there was anything else, she would
bring it to Council.
Councilmember Riegel asked what was involved in the training and stated that he had scheduled Trevor
Shelor who was marvelous resource. He was going to speak in the January meeting on how to deal with
active shooters in the workplace. Chief Brack stated that last year they were fortunate to move towards
paying paramedics so they could keep them. The first thing they needed was people who were trained
in advanced EMS skills. This was advanced medical training to handle the severe traumas. Treating
gunshot wound victims was very different than treating another injury. It was going to those high acuity
situations and training people how to deal with those situations. Councilmember Riegel stated he
thought it was more about personal protective equipment, but it was more medical. Chief Brack said
that it was how to work cooperatively with CPD or any department so they were not getting in their
way, but they were there to support them. When they got the victim, they could get the victim out as a
team.
Councilmember Riegel asked about employee turnover and training. Chief Brack stated that they had a
recruit class starting in February and they currently had 22 candidates that would be in that class. That
may change, because they still had their psychological evaluations to go through and they were just
finishing up backgrounds. They would hold a second class this next year that would start in January and
would coincide with the last part of the first one. They hoped to get 20-25 candidates from that class.
They lost 33 people this year and it was hard to keep up with the attrition rate, but they would keep
adding classes and trying to build the numbers. Councilmember Riegel said that they might start with 25
in a class, but when he attended the graduations there was normally a shift. Chief Brack said that they
tended to lose a significant portion of the class, such as 4 or 5 people. They had a tough class with 26
weeks of training. They wanted them to walk out the door and be able to perform as a Charleston Fire
Fighter that first day.
Police Department-Chief Greg Mullen
Chief Mullen stated that he had a few things to go over. He wanted to make sure that they get all of that
information and it would be in the record. They put an update out the previous week about the progress
with the Illumination Project. There was a ten point press release that went out about the things they
had accomplished. He wanted to make sure that everyone was aware of that and that they were going
to try every 60 days to do an update so that everybody in the community would know what they were
doing and where they were at.
They had signed up with the White House Police Data Initiative which was an open data initiative that
was designed to help with transparency. They had three data sets that they hoped to put up in January
of 2017. They were working on that right now, which would include calls for service, crime data maps,
traffic stops, and use of force. He wasn’t sure exactly which of those would go up first, but they were
hoping to have three of them in the portal by January, so everyone could look up information they had
submitted. There would be portions of that information that would not be uploaded but demographic,
age, and location information would be available for research. They had changed a few policies. One
was that for a consent search, officers had to get a written form signed before they do that search. This
was different from a reasonable suspicion or probable cause search. That was a good thing for people to
understand what they are actually agreeing to.
Councilmember Riegel asked if the citizen refused to sign the form, would the officer be done.
Chief Mullen stated they would be done. That was just on the consent search. They would continue the
listing sessions. They were working with a group of community influencers to continue those into 2017.
They had their first meeting with that group, and the second was scheduled for December to continue
to train and educate that group so they could do the listing sessions. One of the things that he thought
was very important was that they had identified liaison officers for all of the various groups that are in
the City such as AFFA, the Hispanic Community, Military, and other activist organizations. That was
working out well for them. Some of the groups that they were putting together were to look at different
things in the community, and to address criminal and negative behavior, dealing with social
determinants. They had people from the hospitals looking at the schools to come on board, and to
prevent people from getting into the criminal cycle. Many times, Police were the ones who would get
blamed when they had very little to do with what was happening to generate that type of activity. They
were working with those groups to see if there was something they could do.
One of the things that was most exciting about what they had done was that there was a process called
Collaborative Reform where a Police Department that was going through a difficult situation such as a
shooting, or community-police tension, would go to the Justice Department/Cops Office and have them
do a voluntary review of their organization. North Charleston was going through the process now. So
far, there had been eight of those done across the country. What they decided to do, was to go and look
at the reports that had been done in other cities, and each cities report will give a number of
recommendations of what that particular department could do to strengthen their policies and
practices. They looked at five of those Collaborative Reform’s from Fayetteville, Las Vegas, St. Louis,
Philadelphia, and Salinas, and they came up with over 100 recommendations that came out of those
cities. They had some MPA students from the College of Charleston working with the Riley Center and
compare those recommendations that came out of the reports, with what they were actually doing
now. As a result, they were able to determine that about 78% of the recommendations that came out of
those departments were already being done by Charleston’s department. The rest were either in
progress, or they needed to start doing them. They had reviewed with the Command Staff, and they
were now working on implementing the recommendations that they were not doing. They took 5 DOJ
reports that have been done, proactively reviewed them, and were implementing them. They thought
this was important because they were learning from other departments and recommendations. He
didn’t know anyone else that was doing that. It was a great way to learn, and identify in our department
what needs to be improved.
With the help of Mayor Tecklenburg, they had started a Clergy Council. They had a couple of meetings
with them that had gone really well. That would continue to grow and be a big part of what they did
throughout the community. They had started to collaborate with the Charleston County Libraries,
because one of their strategies was that they wanted to start teaching their officers about the history of
how Law Enforcement in the communities had a lot to do with how people receive them today. There
was an opportunity with the county library to start a Civil Rights History Program that would be available
for all of their officers. Part of that might be going around to different places in the City and talking
about the history in those locations and how that might have impacted some generational beliefs that
had now created some potential for mistrust among the police in the community. The RFP for the Peak
Academy is out. They were meeting the next day to look over the RFP’s and make a selection on which
consulting firm would be working with them.
For 60 days, Chief Mullen was very pleased with the progress they were making thus far and they were
on a very good path. Another thing that was important was that this report and this process had been
taken by Senator Tim Scott to the Department of Justice. He was talking with them about the potential
to use this as road map for other communities. He was going to have a group of chiefs, clergy members,
and the nominee for attorney general there in early December to talk with them about that. He was
very excited about what it might be and how it could be implemented in other places.
Chairwoman Wilson stated that this was comprehensive and remarkable. She said that Chief Mullen had
kept them on the leading edge all of the time and that she commended them. She was sorry she
couldn’t be more involved with the Illumination project, but that she had supported it since the moment
she had heard about it.
Councilmember Riegel stated that they had done a great job and asked for an update on the
headquarters in West Ashley.
Mayor Tecklenburg left at 4:28 p.m.
Chief Mullen thanked the Committee for acting so quickly on the rifle plates. They had all been delivered
and were out in the field, with the exception of around 70, that were for people that were on FMLA. The
body camera program had gotten a reimbursement approval for around $100,000 from the State. They
would continue to ask for more because the State was supposed to fund 100% of that. They had gotten
about 96% back so far. They were adding in-car cameras to the fleet. This would take them to over 100
in-car cameras, in addition to every officer having a body camera, and they were continuing to build that
out.
Councilmember Shahid asked what cars had in-car cameras. Chief Mullen stated that they were spread
out all over the city and that not every car had an in-car camera. The State said that they were going to
fund all of the in-car cameras as well. Up to a few years ago, when you would ask it would be a VHS
recorder, and the storage was impossible. They started their own purchasing of digital cameras. They
were up to about half of the fleet with in-car cameras. Every few years, the State gave 30-40 more and
when they received a grant they would buy 15-20 more. Their goal was to have one in every car but it
was taking a while. With the body cameras, you get so much more than you do with the in-car camera
because that was a fixed camera. If something happened on either side, you wouldn’t see it and it was
not the best quality. If you stepped out of view of the camera, it was no good. They were moving in that
direction and had very good equipment in the cars now. They were able to purchase cameras now that
work with their infrastructure and all of the other camera systems. They had one system that worked,
and it was growing very well.
They received about $1,000,000 worth of grants recently for equipment, traffic officers, an elder
advocate, and they were putting in a grant for a data initiative. They wanted to try to create a
dashboard that would allow people to look at the data they were putting up.
Chief Mullen stated that he publically wanted to commend the men and women of the Police
Department for their performance over the period of time. They had really been getting beat up and he
was tired of them getting beat up. He didn’t know of anybody or any Police Department that had
addressed as many multiple protests, special events, and critical incidents, or had gotten multiple
awards and commissions that his officers had gotten. He wanted everyone to know that he was very
proud of them and that they were doing a wonderful job.
Councilmember Riegel asked what they could do to make their lives easier. Chairman Wilson said people
needed to stop beating police officers up but they couldn’t change the public. Councilmember Shahid
stated that it appeared to him that it wasn’t what our officers are doing, but that people are reacting
towards our City’s Officers as a general rule. He asked if Chief Mullen thought it was something else.
Chief Mullen stated that he thought it was a problem nationally and he felt that in our City’s case, there
was a very vocal minority of people that constantly talk and present information that was incorrect.
There wasn’t any rebuttal to that by people in the community or other people in leadership positions.
When people could stand up and say that Police Officers are stopping people for no reason and that the
police are operating under racist practices, and there was no rebuttal, it made the officers feel like that
was what everyone must think. This one group was constantly saying these things, and there was no
rebuttal other than Mr. Hicks, the officers wondered why other people weren’t stepping in.
Councilmember Riegel stated that was why he had asked the question. The Committee had extremely
dedicated public service individuals. He asked what they could do as officials to support Chief Mullen
and Chief Brack. He said that they were willing and ready to do whatever needed to be done. Chief
Mullen stated that he thought it would be appropriate if there was some sort of correspondence or
letter to the editor from Council that would say that they heard all of those things and appreciate them,
but they recognize that the Fire Department, Police Department, and other public safety officials were
doing everything they could every day to make sure that all of the citizens and visitors are treated fairly.
There was not any indication that the officers were racists and they weren’t trying to negatively impact
anyone. Councilmember Riegel stated that they were spoiled in the City of Charleston, and that many
people didn’t appreciate the leadership it has had in the Fire and Police Departments. He stated they
had a strong message and he didn’t know how to get that out better.
Chairwoman Wilson stated that it was probably something that could come from the Public Safety
Committee. What was interesting was the media did not come to the Committee. A sound bite or a
sentence was not able to address this, and that was all of the contact she had ever had from the media.
She said they see Organizations stand up and blast the Police Department, but nobody had ever come to
the Committee for their side of the story and what they felt about it. If they did, it was cut down to a
sentence or a couple second sound bites. She said she was sorry she hadn’t thought of it, but that there
was room for a strong statement coming from the Committee, if not Council as a whole. If Council
wanted to sign on, she thought that would be entirely appropriate, but that there was something they
could craft. Councilmember Riegel said let’s do that and that he would support that 100%.
Councilmember Shahid said he was glad that Chief Mullen had brought this to their attention because
he assumed everything was okay and that he didn’t realize there was an issue to that level. He knew
about the one organization but thought if they would just ignore them, they would go away. He said
they were there to support them, and he hoped they knew that. His concern was the morale of the
officers, and if they were happy. This was a mission and a profession for them, and they were providing
a great service to the community. They didn’t have a community without the officers. He said whatever
they need the Committee to do, they would do.
Chief Mullen stated that for the past two years, it was constant. It was one thing after another. Everyone
else was having a wonderful time, but the Police and Fire Departments were going to a protest.
Everyone else was able to express themselves, which is what they were there to protect, but he hadn’t
had anyone saying that officers were mistreating them. The people who were vocal in their
presentation, you would think that the officers were the worst people in the world. He said there would
always be room for improvement, but the men and women were sacrificing a lot, and they were out
there every day making sure that people could do things they wanted to do safely. Chairwoman Wilson
stated that she tended to go to her very quiet island in her cul-de-sac. They all live in these places, and
knew that these things were going on, but didn’t see it. Councilmember Riegel said that was absolutely
the point and if they had heard his speech, he had yelled at Reverend Darby. He told Reverend Darby
that he was sick and tired of him taking a broad brush from whatever was happening in other
communities in the country, and painting the City of Charleston.
Chairwoman Wilson stated that they needed to remember that these guys were human too. She said
she would never forget Rusty Myers and his email. Rusty was the head of Team Three for a while and is
now a Marine guy. She said that it was the most touching email when they allocated the funding so
quickly at Council for the Ballistic Armor. She said that this purchase had done so much for morale. She
said she was bad at this, that they need to hear feedback, and that they could do better. Councilmember
Riegel stated that for years he had stopped every military man and woman and thanked them, but had
never stopped the police officers or fire fighters and thanked them for their service. He said that
whenever he saw blue now, he stopped.
Chief Mullen said the Contract had been let and that they start next week. They were supposed to be in
the building in West Ashley by the end of March.
Having no further business, the meeting adjourned at 4:46 p.m.
Bethany Whitaker
Council Secretary
Agenda
JOHN J. TECKLENBURG
MAYOR
City of Charleston VANESSA TURNER MAYBANK
CLERK OF COUNCIL
South Carolina
Clerk of Council Department
PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE
City Hall
80 Broad Street, First Floor Conference Room
Thursday, December 1, 2016
3:30 p.m.
Mayor John J. Tecklenburg
Councilmember Kathleen Wilson, Chair
Councilmember James Lewis, Vice Chair
Councilmember Peter Shahid
Councilmember Dean Riegel
AGENDA
1. Moment of Silence
2. Approval of March 3, 2016 Minutes
Approval of September 29, 2016 Minutes (Deferred)
3. Review of Vehicle Safety Task Force Report
4. Updates:
A. Chief Karen Brack, Fire Department
B. Chief Greg Mullen, Police Department
C. Mark Wilbert, Emergency Management Director
5. Adjournment
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