Appearance Review Commission (ARC)
Regular MeetingDeerfield, IL · March 20, 2017
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Appearance Review Commission
Meeting Minutes March 20, 2017
A meeting of the Appearance Review Commission was held on Monday, March 20,
2017 at 7:00 p.m. at the Village Hall Conference Room, 850 Waukegan Road,
Deerfield, Illinois. Chairperson Lisa Dunn called the meeting to order at 7:01 p.m.
Present were
Beth Chaitman
Lisa Dunn, Chairperson
Sherry Flores
Tony Fulmer
Jason Golub
Elizabeth Low
Daniel Moons
Also Present:
Jean Spagnoli, Village Planner
Jeri Cotton, Secretary
Public Comment:
There were no public comments on non-agenda items.
Document Approval
Ms. Low moved to approve the minutes from the February 27, 2017 Appearance
Review Commission meeting. Mr. Fulmer seconded the motion. The motion passed
unanimously on a voice vote with a minor correction.
Business:
1. Exxon, 700 Waukegan Road – Building and Site Lighting
Ed Mistretta and Rick Mistretta with Exxon and Ron Schuetz with Ledco America were
present. Mr. Rick Mistretta explained they want to ensure patrons feel the lighting in
their station is safe. The current Village standard is much dimmer than the former
standard. The adjacent Mobil gas station is much brighter than the current standard.
Trying to find an LED bulb with the required wattage will not provide the same
brightness as the competing stations. Mr. Schuetz took meter readings at various
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stations, and the foot candle measurements were between 45 and 55. The current
average foot candle wattage should not exceed 30 for a gasoline fuel station pump
area. Mr. Ed Mistretta explained they would also like additional lighting on the building.
Mr. Rick Mistretta noted there are existing fluorescent tube fixtures around the bay
doors and in the gable. They are not going to put lighting in gable. Mr. Rick Mistretta
indicated they would have LED lighting for the interior but would remove the strip
lighting on the exterior of the building. Ch. Dunn noted there would be one light on the
west and south elevations and four on the front elevation. Mr. Rick Mistretta indicated
they would also like the Village Auto Repair sign illuminated.
Mr. Rick Mistretta explained people want to feel the station is clean and safe. They
would like their site to be illuminated similarly to the other stations. They do not want
the station to appear dark for safety reasons. He explained LED lights are more direct
and do not illuminate the entire canopy. Mr. Ed Mistretta noted the brighter lights would
not impact any residential. He indicated the only business open in the evening is
Baskin Robbins. Ms. Chaitman questioned whether the lights would be replaced one
for one. Ch. Dunn noted there are some LED lights that could be installed that would
meet the code. Mr. Schuetz explained the other locations would have twice the foot
candles. Mr. Rick Mistretta explained they do not need to be as bright as the Mobil
station, but need to be bright enough. Mr. Ed Mistretta indicated the Mobil station has
so much light, that it exceeds their property footprint. Most LED lights focus down.
Ms. Low expressed concern about setting a precedent. It would be difficult to raise the
bar. Mr. Rick Mistretta noted if they put metal halide lights back in, it would not meet the
Appearance Code. The metal halide lamps have different colors and reduces the light
after just a few years. Mr. Ed Mistretta suggested possibly revisiting the Appearance
Code. Ch. Dunn noted the Village wants all the stations to be safe and clean, but need
to determine when it is too bright.
Ms. Chaitman noted the Commission just put together the new code and looked at it in
comparison with the other Villages. She questioned what the Village could do about the
other gas stations. Mr. Rick Mistretta questioned whether they could put in metal halide
bulbs. Ms. Spagnoli explained any changes would need to be at the Village standard.
Mr. Rick Mistretta noted they would need to try to appeal the decision. Ms. Low
questioned whether they needed 16 light fixtures with bright lights in each can. She
suggested trying to use fewer fixtures with brighter bulbs. Mr. Rick Mistretta stated he
would look into it, but expressed concern about min/max ratios. Ms. Spagnoli
questioned how the foot candles were measured by Mr. Schuetz. Ch. Dunn noted the
Village looks at the average foot candles. Mr. Schuetz has not seen a gas station that
meets the Village’s requirements on the North Shore. Ms. Low believes the Exxon
station would appear brighter if the adjacent neighbor was not as bright. Mr. Schuetz
noted the LED lights appear more consistent and crisp while metal halide bulbs show
various colors. Mr. Rick Mistretta believes the other stations have the industry standard
while the Village is requesting a different standard. Ch. Dunn questioned where the
petitioner has a hardship, other than stating the other gas stations have brighter bulbs.
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Mr. Rick Mistretta explained they do not want to be 1/3 as bright as the other stations.
Mr. Schuetz noted the other stations currently have an advantage. He cannot think of
an example of other stations that meet the Village’s standard. Ch. Dunn noted when
the Commission looked at the standard in the Appearance Code, they felt the new
standards were appropriate. Mr. Rick Mistretta noted they are not asking to be as bright
as the neighboring stations; they only want to be visible enough where customers feel
safe.
Ms. Low moved to approve the canopy fixtures for the Exxon located at 700 Waukegan
Road for the 16 light fixtures located under the gas canopy as presented. The 16
fixtures would result in a 38.41 foot candle lighting across that area of the property. Mr.
Moons seconded the motion. The motion did not pass by the following vote:
AYES: None (0)
NAYS: Chaitman, Dunn, Flores, Fulmer, Golub, Low, Moons (7)
Ms. Low moved to approve the lighting for Exxon located at 700 Waukegan Road for six
LED light fixtures mounted to the building as presented. The tube lighting would be
removed. Mr. Fulmer seconded the motion. The motion passed by the following vote:
AYES: Chaitman, Dunn, Flores, Fulmer, Golub, Low, Moons (7)
NAYS: None (0)
2. Jimmy Thai, 475 Lake Cook Road – Wall Sign
Jim Seriruk explained he was formerly with Thai Thai. Their lease expired and he no
longer has a partner. Mr. Seriruk has another restaurant in the west suburbs. The old
Thai Thai signs will be removed and the proposed sign would be more modern to match
their branding. He is asking for approval of a sign that would be more visible from Lake
Cook Road. Mr. Seriruk indicated a number of their customers go to the exit door rather
than their front door. Mr. Moons noted the proposed sign location would be by the
underpass walkway rather than the walls of the business. Mr. Seriruk believes the
proposed sign location would be more visible. Ch. Dunn noted the Village does not
usually approve signs over a walkway. Mr. Seriruk explained he believes the proposed
sign location would be better than where the Thai Thai sign was located, so patrons can
see it is a corner location. He asked the sign company to provide information with the
sign located above the door rather than the walkway. The commissioners prefer the
new option.
The commissioners discussed the proposed font and color. Mr. Seriruk explained the
font is part of his branding. The Thai Thai font was more Asian traditional while the
proposed font is more modern. Mr. Seriruk explained the proposed color of the font is
consistent with the paint color in the restaurant as well as the menus. Mr. Seriruk will
work with the landlord to repair the façade where the previous signs were removed.
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The commissioners discussed the proposed pylon sign panels. Ch. Dunn explained the
sign face would be changed to reflect the new name. The letters would be centered
horizontally and vertically in the panel.
Mr. Golub moved to approve the wall sign for Jimmy Thai located at 475 Lake Cook
Road as presented with the sign centered over the arch adjacent to the front entryway.
The colors are PMS 1595 orange for the word Jimmy and PMS 375 green for the word
Thai. The letters will be flush mount channel letters with LED illumination and black
returns and trim caps. The existing sign areas on the façade will be cleaned and
repaired as required. Ms. Flores seconded the motion. The motion passed by the
following vote:
AYES: Chaitman, Dunn, Flores, Fulmer, Golub, Low, Moons (7)
NAYS: None (0)
Mr. Moons moved to approve the pylon sign panels for Jimmy Thai located at 475 Lake
Cook Road as presented. Ms. Low seconded the motion. The motion passed by the
following vote:
AYES: Chaitman, Dunn, Flores, Fulmer, Golub, Low, Moons (7)
NAYS: None (0)
3. Opal Enterprises Window and Siding Company, 370 Lake Cook Road – Wall Sign
Ch. Dunn noted representatives from Opal Enterprises were unable to attend the
meeting. They are not asking for variations. She asked if there were any comments
about their proposal. Ms. Low questioned whether the sign is centered over their door.
The sign would be centered within their lease space.
Ms. Flores moved to approve the Opal Enterprises Window and Siding Company wall
sign as submitted. The sign will have block lettering centered over the tenant space.
Ms. Low seconded the motion. The motion passed by the following vote:
AYES: Chaitman, Dunn, Flores, Fulmer, Golub, Low, Moons (7)
NAYS: None (0)
4. Deerbrook Shopping Center, Signage
Michelle Panovich, Executive Vice President and Patti Mahony, Vice President
Construction Management with Mid-America Asset Management, Gil Magnelli with
OKW Architects, Bill Ferguson with Daniel Weinbach & Partners Landscape Architects
and Lisa Stoszak with Parvin-Clauss Sign Company were present.
a. Sign Criteria for Center
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b. Waukegan Road Pylon Signs
c. Lake Cook Road Ground Sign
Mr. Magnelli explained they propose using the same material as Jewel, including the
Sioux City Desert Blend masonry and Parklex Onix. The pylon sign box would be
changed, but the brick bottom would remain. The top of the new sign would be the
same height as the existing sign, but the divisions in the sign box would differ. The sign
design picks up some of the modern edges of the buildings.
Ms. Panovich explained the proposed pylon sign tenant panels will have a brushed
aluminum suede satin finish. Ms. Mahony explained the panels will be much easier to
match. The tenant panels will not allow logos. Ms. Flores expressed concern as the
sign for the center (Deerbrook) looks too much like a tenant panel. Ms. Panovich
explained they want the emphasis to be on the tenants. Ms. Mahony added the tenant
signs are pushed thru so the letters would illuminate at night while the Deerbrook
portion would not illuminate. Ms. Low ensured the tenants could have any color letters
on the pylon sign. Ms. Mahony explained the tenants could use their trademark color
on the pylon sign but logos would not be permitted. The letters on the pylon sign panels
can only be one color and on one line. There would be a 4” margin on all four sides.
Ms. Mahony indicated the pylon sign panels would be illuminated with white LED
regardless of the letter color. Ms. Stoszak explained they use translucent vinyl on top of
the acrylic to achieve the desired color.
Ms. Spagnoli explained the current Ordinance allows tenants to have a pylon sign panel
on the pylon sign nearest the tenant location. Ms. Panovich indicated that is opposite of
their thinking. Some of the larger tenants will be on more than one pylon sign.
Ms. Low moved to approve the pylon signs and the shopping center sign criteria: four
pylon signs on Waukegan Road and the one sign on Lake Cook Road as presented
from Parvin-Clauss sign company sheet 1 of 2 and 2 of 2 and the sign criteria and
section F as presented on 3/20/2017, subject to Board approval. Mr. Moons second the
motion. The motion passed by the following vote:
AYES: Chaitman, Dunn, Flores, Fulmer, Golub, Low, Moons (7)
NAYS: None (0)
5. Stein Mart, 94 S. Waukegan Road – Building Improvements and Signage
Scott Griffin, Store Planning Manager with Stein Mart, was present. Mr. Griffin
explained they would be locating in the existing Office Max location. They propose
moving the doors over one window bay so their entry is centered below their sign
creating a more balanced appearance. They are also requesting approval to create two
areas on the outer edges of the existing windows to allow for black film near the
women’s fitting rooms and for store holds and returns. They propose removing some of
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the existing arches and piers to clean up the façade. They also propose adding a fresh
coat of paint, which would match the current façade.
Mr. Griffin explained they propose a 21’ long sign, which meets the Village standards.
The sign would be backlit, while the sign criteria require a face lit sign for consistency
within the center. Mr. Griffin would change the sign to be face lit. The proposed
window film would be solid black rather than a graphic window film. Mr. Griffin indicated
there would be a wall behind the window film.
Ch. Dunn questioned the sign color. Ms. Mahony explained this is their trademark
color. The commissioners discussed the proposed pylon sign panels. Ms. Chaitman
reported the background panel would be Enchanted Forest Green with white graphics.
Ms. Mahony noted the center is redoing the pylon sign and suggested waiting for that
approval to discuss the proposed pylon sign panels. The petitioner deferred further
discussion on the pylon sign panels.
Mr. Golub noted there are areas in the center that are very dark. Mr. Griffin explained
Stein Mart typically adds some lighting near their store entrances. Mr. Golub would be
in favor of adding lights to illuminate the front walkway. Ms. Spagnoli pointed out that
any exterior improvement, including lights, requires Appearance Review Commission
approval.
Mr. Moons moved to approve the building improvements and wall sign for Stein Mart
located at 94 S. Waukegan Road. The sign will be face lit rather than back lit as
presented. The window film will be the same color to match the MOD Pizza window
film. Mr. Golub seconded the motion. The motion passed by the following vote:
AYES: Chaitman, Dunn, Flores, Fulmer, Golub, Low, Moons (7)
NAYS: None (0)
6. Deerbrook Shopping Center, Redevelopment of Mid-Section – Preliminary Review
Mr. Magnelli explained they propose demolishing the mid-section including the theater
and want to replace it with a three tenant retail building. The Office Max and the Ulta
will be relocated to this new building. The face of the building will be moved further
west to make room for additional parking and a drive aisle. Ch. Dunn questioned why
the buildings do not align. Mr. Magnelli explained Hobby Lobby is existing. Ms.
Panovich explained by moving the building back and removing the bump out, 50 spaces
will be added and it will be more shopper-friendly. Mr. Magnelli explained they would be
raising the current floor to remove the steps and railing. Ms. Mahoney noted the grade
would be fixed as well.
Mr. Magnelli noted they would be replacing some of the parking lot lighting with LED
fixtures and adding some lighting in the drive aisle. The submittal shows metal halide
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bulbs, but they would be using LED. The wall packs and fixtures would be the same as
what was approved for Jewel and the outlot buildings.
Bill Ferguson, landscape architect with Daniel Weinbach Partners, explained they would
be removing some of the parking lot trees that are not in good condition. They would be
tripling the number of trees that they are removing. Mr. Ferguson explained the
improvements have allowed for larger green spaces for planting beds with ornamental
grasses. There will be a landscape median in the new drive aisle with ornamental
grasses, perennials and shrubs. The proposed southwest corner will include green
enhancements and trees. The proposed median is 9’ from back of curb to back of curb
with 8’ of planting. There will be a sidewalk on both sides. There will be a landscape
and seating area between Art Van Furniture and the new building. There will be
landscape treatments in the parking lot islands. Mr. Fulmer did not have objections to
the proposed plant list. Ms. Low questioned the use of the sod, especially in the long
median strip. Mr. Ferguson explained they would use a Black Beauty sod, which would
allow the snow to be stored for smaller snowfalls. Ms. Low expressed concern about
the maintenance. Mr. Ferguson explained they would use push mowers. Ms. Low
questioned whether the center would be better served using mulch. Mr. Ferguson
noted if the grass fails, they would switch it out to bark mulch.
Ch. Dunn noted the foot candles are greater that what is allowed by the Appearance
Code. Mr. Magnelli explained the east parking area averages just over 2 and in the
west parking area it is just over 3. He believes the proposed light candles help maintain
uniformity and eliminates some of the dark spots. Ms. Mahoney noted Jewel has higher
foot candles. She will have their engineer rerun the photometrics. Ms. Mahoney noted
they are not changing all of the lights and are trying to maintain uniformity. For safety
reasons, the commissioners were concerned about the pathways between the two
buildings being well lit.
Mr. Magnelli discussed the proposed building elevations. The front façade includes
Sioux City Desert Blend brick masonry, parklex cladding and EIFS painted to match the
rest of the center. The store front system is bronze anodized, which is also consistent
with most of the center. There will be cast stone accents at the piers and around the
masonry elements. The drive elevation has parklex and masonry along with a screened
wall to hide the Ulta loading area. The trash enclosures will also be screened in the
rear of the bulding. They will be steel framed and wood clad. Ms. Low noted the rear of
the buildings are going to be visible. She asked if the rear of the buildings could be
made similar to the front. Mr. Golub noted there may be a number of people in the rear
of the building. Ms. Panovich explained the intent is to redevelop the rear parcel. She
would not want to make a decision based on what is there today. Mr. Magnelli noted
they also have some white, open air canopies to add dimension.
Mr. Golub questioned the lack of wall sconces on the south side of Ulta. Ms. Mahony
explained they need to discuss what to use. They will come back to the Commission
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with the lighting. The commissioners suggested they take another look at the rear of
the building as they believe it is too plain.
Adjournment:
There being no further business or discussion, Mr. Moons moved to adjourn the
meeting. Mr. Golub seconded the motion. The motion was adjourned at 9:45 pm.
Respectfully submitted,
Jeri Cotton
Secretary
Agenda
Appearance Review Commission
Village of Deerfield
Community Conference Room 206
Workshop Meeting 7:00 p.m. Monday, March 20, 2017
Call to Order
Public Comment
Document Approval
Minutes of February 27, 2017
Business
1. Exxon, 700 Waukegan Road: building and site lighting
2. Jimmy Thai, 475 Lake Cook Road: wall sign
3. Opal Enterprises Windows and Siding Company, 370 Lake Cook Road: wall
sign
4. Deerbrook Shopping Center, signage
a. Sign Criteria for Center
b. Waukegan Road Pylon Signs
c. Lake Cook Road Ground Sign
5. Stein Mart, 94 S. Waukegan Road: building improvements and signage
6. Deerbrook Shopping Center: redevelopment of mid-section, preliminary review
Items from the Commission
As Introduced
Items from the Staff
As Introduced
Adjournment