Building Code Review Board
Regular MeetingDeKalb, IL · November 19, 2015
Minutes
CITY OF DEKALB
BUILDING BOARD OF APPEALS
MINUTES
November 19, 2015
Call to Order.
The meeting was called to order at 9:06 AM by Chairman Don Whitmore.
Roll Call
BBA Members present were Chairman Don Whitmore, Charles Shepard, Christine
Scholl, and Lisa Sharp. Steve Irving arrived at 9:10.
Staff present were Community Development Director Ellen Divita, Fire Chief Eric Hicks,
Deputy Fire Chief Greg Hoyle, Dan Burrow of SAFEbuilt, and Community Development
Administrative Assistant Natalie Nelson. Natalie Nelson acted as recording Secretary.
Also present were Ken Anderson, Jerry Evans, Randy Nelson, Keith O’Higgins, and
Sean Kelly.
Approval of Agenda
Chairman Whitmore asked for a motion to approve the agenda, C. Shepard motioned to
approve the Agenda without changes, and the motion was seconded by Lisa Sharp. All
approved.
Public Participation
Ken Anderson and Randy Nelson stated they would wait to speak until the topic was
addressed.
Approval of Minutes
C. Shepard motioned to approve the October 15, 2015, minutes, and the motion was
seconded by L. Sharp. All approved.
Old Business
1. COMMITTEE REPORTS on draft Regional Building Code review activity
Mechanical – Keith O’Higgins has provided additional recommendations to Steve
Doonan’s written comments. There are four items to address.
K. O’Higgins commented that he agrees with amendment G2414.10.1: Welded
Connections. Welding gas piping over 2” and piping carrying 1 PAI or over is not
required in the original code.
He also agrees with amendment 508.1 Makeup air with the Northwest Illinois Regional
Building Code. He further agrees with the Northwest Illinois Regional Building Code
amendment 603.6.2.1, Connector length, and he would recommend limiting the
connector length should be no more than 8’. He further agrees with the International
Fuel Gas Code 402.6, Maximum design operating pressure and 403.10.4, regarding
welding; he agrees with the Northwest Illinois Regional Building Code amendment.
The BBA will consider the comments of both Steve Doonan and Keith O’Higgins.
Electrical – Dan Hagar sent in a set of comments to accept the Northwest Illinois
Regional Building Code but was unable to attend the meeting. He requested keeping the
City of DeKalb’s current amendments as well as the regional code group’s work.
Plumbing – Jerry Evans spoke that he will work with Reese Menard to submit a written
report regarding thoughts on the amendments proposed by the Regional Code. After he
and K. O’Higgins discussed the amendments in the Northwest Illinois Regional Building
Code, J. Evans stated he found no objections to the recommended amendments proposed
amendments. There remains an expectation that the State will deny approval of the
amendments proposed by the Northwest group and all will be required to adopt the State
plumbing code as written.
IBC (Commercial Building Code) – Chairman Whitmore discussed the exception in
Northwest Illinois Regional Building Code amendment 1806.2 regarding Presumptive
load-bearing values and stated other areas of the 2015 International Building Code
address this issue. He disagrees with exception 2 from the Northwest Illinois Regional
Building Code.
Fire – Chief Hicks stated that the current DeKalb amendments would need to be kept if
the Northwest Illinois Regional Building Code were adopted, which is allowed in the
Regional Code’s amendment 307.1.1 Prohibited open burning. He stated he saw no
need in DeKalb to adopt the regional group’s amendment 505.3, regarding requiring a
separate address for a dedicated sprinkler control/fire alarm room in a strip mall.
IRC – C. Scholl and Chairman Whitmore reported that there were a few amendments
that are not necessary in the Northwest Illinois Regional Building Code. Amendment
R403.3.5 regarding detached garages or sheds are already in use in DeKalb’s current
code amendments. Amendments numbered R322 regarding flood plain and elevation
requirements are not required.
A discussion of following the IRC 2015 Code sprinkler exemption or requirement for
townhouses ensued, including the fire protection rating requirements that would be in
place when sprinklers are not required in townhouses.
C. Scholl indicated she talked to Andrew Pieri and learned that Belivdere has adopted
the 2012 code with sprinklers. D. Whitmore reminded the Board that they have moved
back and forth on this item and the subcommittee had determined not to include the
townhouse sprinkler requirements. Chief Hicks asked if the group had looked at the
costs associated with a “work around” if they exempt the sprinklers – what will it cost to
provide the fire protection rating on lighter construction materials?
C Shepard and J. Evans confirmed backflow requirements and yearly checks are
required and these were discussed as disadvantages to sprinklers in townhouses. S.
Irving asked for a distinction on freestanding units and D. Whitmore provided the code
definitions of a townhouse as three or more built side by side would require sprinklers if
this section of the code were adopted; duplexes would not require sprinklers.. Units
stacked one on top of each other are “R2” construction and by the IBC already require
sprinklers. Steve asked for confirmation that in some mixed use developments, if
sprinklers were exempted for the townhouse units there could be some buildings with
sprinklers next to some without; D. Whitmore confirmed yes.
Randy Neilson stated he is building luxury townhouses now and hasn’t found anyone
wanting to buy a unit with them. He doesn’t think he could make the numbers work and
would have to rent the units out due to higher price. He received quotes of $8 - $10,000
a unit. The Building Board asked him if he would share these quotes with them.
The City of DeKalb’s Fire Department has stated that they support a requirement for
sprinklers in townhouses.
E. Divita stated that Mayor Rey has asked that whatever decision the Commission
makes, they should clearly explain their rational. It is reasonable to assume members of
the public will attend the Council meeting and the more information presented by the
Building Board of Appeals, the more information the Council will have to discuss the
topic with interested members of the community.
The builders attending the meeting indicated they do not support any requirements for
sprinklers in townhouses. Asked by Ken Anderson if Rockford had included sprinkler
amendment, Divita distributed copies of the City of Rockford’s press release regarding
the Northwest Illinois Regional Building Code recently been passed in Rockford (which
indicate yes). She referred Mr. Anderson to call Andrew Pieri in Rockford directly as
they have spoken on multiple locations.
Sean Kelly stated that that as the code allows for construction with sprinklers, or the
alternative fire stopping measures to build without, he supports following the 2015
Building Code for sprinkler requirement and the alternative building requirements. He
supported allowing the market to take care of itself.
Existing Building Code – Chairman Whitmore stated that the Northwest Illinois
Regional Building Code amendments are acceptable.
A discussion regarding the need for a decision to be made if the City of DeKalb to adopt
the Regional Code. E. Divita recommended that a code-by-code discussion take place
before a vote on the complete set of codes take place. She suggested the Building Board
may choose to retain the same form for a number of the codes, though it was evident the
City of DeKalb would diverge from the Northwest Illinois Regional Building Code.
Even if a certain number of codes remained parallel, it provides consistency across the
region for builders, designers, and tradesmen on that group of codes and fewer codes to
inspect for differences.
C. Shephard motioned not to join the Northwest Illinois Regional building Code at this
time. The motion was seconded by L. Sharp. Roll Call vote was unanimous.
2. DECEMBER ICC AND DCEP (ENERGY CODE) TRAINING SESSIONS IN DECEMBER
The three ICC training workshops proposed in December (Dixon, Rockford, and DeKalb
have been canceled. The arrangements for the training staff from the International Code
Council has not been finalized.
3. WORK TASKS
The BBA will begin a series of workshop meetings to review the code and identify their own set
of amendments. Before the next meeting
• E. Divita will request more information from Andrew Pieri regarding the sub-
committee’s work at their October 22, 2015 meeting. (Editor’s Note, see comments at the
end of these minutes)
• K. O’Higgins will meet with S. Doonan to discuss their suggested amendments.
• A subcommittee for the Building Code will meet to discuss alternatives to sprinkler
requirements.
New Business
The next Building Board of Appeals meeting is set for Thursday, December 10, 2015,
9:00AM at DeKalb City Hall. It will be a work session, not a formal meeting, to discuss
individual codes and the amendments that may be necessary.
HEARING AND SEEING NO ADDITIONAL COMMENT FROM ATTENDEES, CHAIRMAN WHITMORE
CLOSED THE MEETING AT 10:40AM.
Additional information from Andrew Pieri, CBO, City of Rockford.
Regional Code: R322.2.1 through R322.2.2 (Flood Zone Issues):
City of DeKalb Committee requests clarification for need for this amendment.
A. Pieri: Amendment was made from the IRC because it is not specific to our area of the country. It
essentially says building and structures in a coastal area other than Coastal A, that floods, must be 12”
above what the flood level is. It makes sure 100 year flood level is 12” above for foundation. We are
not a coastal A zone. Each City is in different flood areas so the regional group is leaving this to
individual towns to cover in various stormwater ordinances.
R403.3.5 Detached garages or sheds (slab on grade):
City of DeKalb Committee does not understand need for this amendment; believe this is covered in
other parts of the code and our Uniform Dwelling Ordinance.
A. Pieri: Says code official may approve if 5 conditions. What they are doing is letting folks do a large
slab on grade without doing it on a frostwall / trenched foundation. You can do on thick concrete slab.
The regional group didn’t want to force folks to spend more on concrete.
R1005.1 Listing and clearances for factory‐built chimneys:
City of DeKalb committee questions the need for this amendment.
A. Pieri: Manufacturers specs often say no firestopping is needed. They have had problems with
Chimneys and wanted to make sure that even if factory built chimney in a chase, there is firestopping
with adequate clearance.
M1401.3.1 Calculations required:
City of DeKalb committee questions this requirement; believe Energy Code covers the requirements.
A. Pieri: The regional group clarified it. Was to double state it.The energy conversation code says if
replacing mechanical furnace or AC you need to do calcs to properly size. Want to make it crystal clear
to contractors.
They have been issuing HVAC permits without calcs. Fly by night contractors won’t understand
calculations. Is meant to force mechanical contractors to calculate and not just guess at the right size
unit for the home.
M603.6.1.1 Duct Length and M603.6.2.1 Connector Length:
The City of DeKalb Committee requests clarification of reasoning for these two requirements.
A. Pieri: The mechanical code as unadopted says can go up to 14’ and the problem with flexible duct – it
was created for retrofit. If thrown in attic, it gets “zig zagged.” It’s designed to be straight and if not,
won’t get right air flow. Get friction loss in the air movement.
2015 IBC:
1806.2 Presumptive Load Bearing Values:
The City of DeKalb Committee requests clarification for these changes to the IBC.
A. Pieri: Reason they did it is to essentially say that a one story building can use presumptive load
(presumes ground will hold 1500 lbs/sf), don’t need to give a soil report.
He always asks for soil report to see if soil will hold the building.
Agenda
DeKalb City Hall Council Chambers
AGENDA
Building Board of Appeals
November 19, 2015
9:00 AM
A. Roll Call
B. Approval of Agenda – Additions / Deletions
C. Public Participation
D. Approval of Minutes
1. October 15, 2015
2. Cancellation of November 12, 2015 meeting
3. Approval of minutes from October 22, 2015 subcommittee meeting
E. Old Business
1. Committee reports on draft Regional Building Code review activity
a. Mechanical
b. Electric
c. Plumbing
d. IBC (commercial)
e. Fire
f. IRC
g. Existing Building Code
2. December ICC and DCEO (Energy Code) Training sessions in December
F. New Business
1. Next Commission meeting is Thursday, December 10, 2015
G. Adjournment