City Council
Regular MeetingDeKalb, IL · November 14, 2012
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SPECIAL JOINT MEETING OF CITY COUNCIL
AND THE LIQUOR COMMISSION
CITY OF DEKALB
November 14, 2012
The City Council of DeKalb, Illinois, held a Special Meeting on Wednesday, November 14, 2012 at
6:00 p.m. in the Council Chambers of the DeKalb Municipal Building, 200 South 4th Street, DeKalb,
Illinois.
Notice was given and the meeting was called pursuant to the provisions of Chapter 2, Section 2.05 of
the Municipal Code of the City of DeKalb, Illinois.
Mayor Povlsen called the meeting to order at 6:00 p.m.
A. ROLL CALL:
City Clerk Wright called the roll and the following members of City Council were present: Mayor
Kris Povlsen, Alderman David Jacobson, Alderman Tom Teresinski, Alderman Kristen Lash,
Alderman Brendon Gallagher, Alderman Ronald Naylor, and Alderman David Baker. Absent was
Alderman Monica O’Leary
City Clerk Wright called the roll and the following members of the Liquor Commission were present:
Stephen Clark, Sara Cliffe, Matthew Kapustianyk, Mark Stephens, and Gerald Whelan. Absent were:
Tim Lehan and Gerald Phillips.
Also present were: Mark Biernacki, City Manager; Rudy Espiritu, Assistant City Manager; Dean
Frieders, City Attorney; Gene Lowery, Police Chief; Mary Jo Harms, Legal Assistant; Jeff Birtell,
I&T Technician; and Diane Wright, City Clerk.
B. CONSIDERATION
DISCUSSION ON REVISIONS TO CHAPTER 38 OF THE MUNICIPAL CODE.
Mayor Povlsen provided background of the evolution of the liquor industry and Municipal Code
regarding Chapter 38. He noted that classifications for licenses were added and the process has
become cumbersome. As a result, he stated that Mr. Frieders has suggested a simpler system.
Mr. Frieders explained the suggested revisions to the Municipal Code and noted that staff has
attempted to simplify many aspects including fewer classes of licenses and the elimination of sale
restrictions. Discussion commenced regarding the control of alcohol and elimination of sale
restrictions.
Mr. Frieders stated that a subject for discussion is the role of the Liquor Commission. He added that
some communities do not have a liquor commission; others use them to evaluate changes to the Code
or proposals of new classes. Ald. Baker suggested eliminating all commissions due to the extra time
staff spends as liaisons, thereby incurring comp time. He added he could support the Liquor
Commission functioning in an advisory role without staff involvement. Mr. Kapustianyk stated that at
least three of the Commissioners have been serving longer than some Aldermen and know the Code
more than most Council Members. He added that they offer business owners and residents the
opportunity to discuss liquor issues. He added there seems to be some lack of respect from the
Council to the Liquor Commission and noted that the Liquor Commission voted against the recent
Schnucks’ decision but Council passed it. As a result, he said, they have the largest liquor store in the
City.
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Ald. Teresinski stated that it is appropriate that the Commission’s role be examined and added that
other communities do not have a liquor commission in that the Municipal Code is understandable. He
added that he supports simplifying the process. Additionally, he said, the Liquor Commission could
be brought in for consultation when needed. Ald. Naylor stated he values all commissions and
doesn’t see the need to change the Liquor Commission, but would entertain redesigning its role.
Ald. Gallagher addressed Mr. Kapustianyk’s comments and stated that the time served on the Liquor
Commission doesn’t equate to the time Council has served in 2011 when only four (4) meetings were
held by the Liquor Commission. He asked that Mr. Kapustianyk not discount what the Aldermen do,
and added that businesses feel they are being interrogated before the Liquor Commission. He
questioned if there is a need for the Liquor Commission and suggested that public hearings be held by
Council on liquor issues. He noted that Chicago has eight (8) licenses and the recommendation here
is that DeKalb reduce its number to nine (9). Mr. Frieders noted that DeKalb currently has over
twenty (20) licenses.
Ald. Gallagher stated that the Liquor Commission should be looking at simplifying the Code. Mr.
Whelan replied they attempted to do so with the prior City Attorney. Ald. Gallagher stated he takes
umbrage with the comment that the Liquor Commission knows the Code and referred to CVS
Pharmacy recently receiving a liquor license. He asked the Council to disband the Liquor
Commission and move forward on an ad hoc basis.
Mr. Clark stated he doesn’t believe Ald. Gallagher has been operating with transcripts of Liquor
Commission meetings. He stated he would like to see one (1), two (2), or perhaps three (3) classes.
He stated that if a simple set of regulations were in place, nothing would need to be changed, and if
the Liquor Commission found violations, the business could be shut down. Mr. Whelan agreed the
City doesn’t need the amount of classes. He added that the Commission does not interrogate; it asks
questions. Additionally, he said, he views the Commission as a sounding board.
Mr. Stephens stated he was told the Liquor Commission was an advisory board when he was
appointed. He added the Commission is here to provide advice to Council. Also, he said if there is
any concern from the business owners and the citizens, there may be a need for them to come before
the Commission. Mr. Kapustianyk stated that the liquor industry does appreciate the Commission
meetings in that there are open discussions. He added that he didn’t intend to insult the Council
earlier. Also, he said, his fear is that whenever the City has a new Attorney, the Code is rewritten.
Mr. Lewis Schoenberg, owner of American Liquors stated when he sold a business, the City still
allowed the buyer to buy his liquor license.
Mr. Frieders brought up the issue of dual licensing with the City permitting a restaurant and bar under
one roof. He stated that as long as the delineation is clear and the licensee is responsible for policing
it, he sees no problem. Mayor Povlsen said that he is concerned about the enforcement. Ald. Naylor
stated this is the case now with Class E. Mr. Kapustianyk said that it could work with a business such
as Twins, but could present a problem closer to campus. Ald. Lash stated that there are already
establishments selling liquor in which underage people are allowed and they can sit at the same table
where liquor is served. This is not an issue, she said, and doesn’t see the problem. Mr. Whelan stated
that The House should not be serving alcohol.
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Mr. Frieders discussed outdoor seating, fencing and accessibility. Council discussed possible
concerns. Chief Lowery stated the potential for someone not paying attention in a parking lot is an
issue. Also, he said, as long as basic public safety issues are in place for a beer garden, he doesn’t
envision a problem. Council and the Commission again discussed fencing, accessibility, safety,
sanitation and the size of the open area.
Next discussed were the fees including renewal and new applications. Mr. Clark suggested reducing
the fees as much as possible and added if it is a matter of bringing revenue to the City, there might be
a better way, i.e., taxes.
Mr. Frieders suggested if a business applies for a dual license, the higher fee could be the one paid.
Ald. Baker stated that the license should stay with the address. Mr. Frieders stated that the license is
specific to the applicant and the location. Discussion continued regarding fees tied to square footage,
large and small grocery stores, and the sale of liquor permitted in certain confined areas in the stores.
Ald. Baker left the meeting at 7:22 p.m.
Mr. Frieders stated the proposal doesn’t contemplate changes to the sale of package liquor. Ald.
Naylor stated he would still like two licenses for businesses meeting this application. Discussion
ensued regarding package liquor sales inside of bars and the requirement for one or two licenses.
Suggestions were to “grandfather in” Sullivan’s and Twins.
Mr. Frieders explained sampling, Liquor Commission issuing licenses, renewal licenses processed
administratively and simplifying special event licenses.
Ald. Naylor asked if the City does routine inspections on liquor establishments and their properties.
Mr. Frieders replied that Fire Life Safety inspections are done annually but the Code does not require
outside inspections.
Mayor Povlsen stated if there were other comments or suggestions to forward to Mr. Frieders.
Additionally, he suggested that he meet with Mr. Kapustianyk and asked the Liquor Commission to
forward feedback to Mr. Kapustianyk.
Mr. Schoenberg spoke regarding theft in stores.
Mayor Povlsen stated the City is not interested in selling liquor in convenience stores or gas stations.
F. ADJOURNMENT
MOTION
Ald. Gallagher moved to adjourn the meeting; seconded by Ald. Jacobson. Motion carried on voice
vote. Mayor Povlsen declared the meeting adjourned at 7:53 p.m.
DIANE K. WRIGHT, City Clerk
Approved by City Council
November 26, 2012
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CALL AND NOTICE
SPECIAL JOINT MEETING OF THE CITY COUNCIL
AND THE LIQUOR COMMISSION
November 14, 2012
6:00 p.m.
A special joint meeting of the City Council and the Liquor Commission of the City of DeKalb,
Illinois, is hereby called for Wednesday, November 14, 2012 at 6:00 p.m., in the City Council
Chambers, of the DeKalb Municipal Building, 200 South 4th Street, DeKalb, Illinois.
A. ROLLCALL
B. CONSIDERATION
Discussion on Revisions to Chapter 38 of the Municipal Code
C. ADJOURNMENT
This notice is given and this meeting is being called pursuant to the provisions of Chapter 2, Section
2.05 ofthe Municipal Code of the City of DeKalb, Illinois.
Dated: November 7, 2012 . / /r.
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DATE: November 6, 2012
TO: Mayor
City Council
Liquor Commission
Staff
FROM: Liquor Code Discussion Group
SUBJECT: Liquor Code Amendments: Policy Considerations
The following memo lays out the primary policy considerations that the City has before it in
revising the City's Liquor Ordinance to a more simplified fashion. Once direction is provided on
these issues, the next step will be to propose a draft ordinance for review by the City and
licensees.
Based upon small group review of the current liquor code, two primary group discussion points
have been developed and are outlined below as the primary points for consideration by the City
Council and Liquor Commission. Following those two primary discussion points are a number
of subpoints that are proposed for changes to the Liquor Code that have been advanced based
upon the preliminary review.
Primary Discussion Points:
1. Should the City abandon its current "percentage of sale" restrictions?
The City currently maintains restrictions in certain licenses that prohibit licensees from
having more or less of their gross sales come from the sale of alcoholic beverages. As
has been explained to Council in some detail, these restrictions are unenforceable with
present resources, and even under the best of circumstances, very challenging to oversee.
The staff recommendation is to abandon the percentage sale restrictions universally, and
utilize the proposed use-based restrictions to regulate the sale of alcoholic beverages.
The current liquor code has provisions in it that contemplate the potential review and
audit of all sales from a licensed establishment. From a practical perspective, staff
understands that this has never been don e, and would be a tremendously complicated and
expensive undertaking.
2. What should the Liquor Commission's role be dermed as?
This question is clearly a policy question that staff seeks direction on. The liquor
commission could have nearly any role, from being eliminated as a public entity, to
existing for purposes of reviewing policy considerations or proposed changes to the
liquor code, to conducting disciplinary hearings, all the way to reviewing each new
license application.
The one caution that staff would make is that the liquor commission is a public body that
can only act through official meetings and voting, which makes it somewhat inflexible in
responding rapidly to urgent needs. For that reason, using the liquor commission either
to conduct disciplinary hearings or to review license applications would create some
practical difficulties for the City's processing of those matters.
Secondary Proposals:
The following points outline some of the proposed changes to the liquor code. Additional
changes are also proposed, as have been presented in previous presentations to Council and the
Liquor Commission. The revised liquor code will be prepared based upon these propositions.
Dual Licensure for Restaurants and Bars:
One proposal at the heart of the liquor code revision is the concept that a premises could
have more than one license, under certain circumstances. Currently, Class E (restaurant)
establishments are permitted to have a restricted bar area, open only to those 21 + years of
age, where alcohol can be served without food. The bar area has to be separated from the
balance of the restaurant (which is open to persons of all ages) by some physical
separation, such as a half-wall. One of the proposals put forward as a component of the
revision to the Code would be to permit bars and restaurants to have dual licensure. An
establishment would be permitted to also have a designated area for both uses, separated
by some physical separation similar to the current standards for Class E licenses.
Similar to this question is the question of whether bars or restaurants should be eligible to
get hospitality licenses for areas to be used as banquet facilities. Provided that the
facilities are separately designated and comply with the hospitality license requirements,
this may also be a concept that would be included within the licensee would be able to
obtain a banquet license for a portion of an establishment used for that restricted purpose.
The current proposal would be to have a licensee seeking a dual licensure pay the license
fee for the more expensive of the licenses sought.
Outdoor Seating Requirements:
Staff has ascertained that the City had an unwritten policy of requiring any establishment
that sought to have outdoor seating for consumption on premises to have such outdoor
seating area be: I) contiguous to the licensed building; 2) accessible only through the
building; and, 3) completely surrounded by a fence. Those restrictions, while universally
enforced, are not included in the current Liquor Code.
The City needs to determine which among those restnctlOns, or what additional
restrictions, are appropriate to include for outdoor seating areas. There are some
establishments, such as Noodles, which had sought to have outdoor seating areas but
which do not meet the current 'requirements.' Noodles outdoor seating area is pictured
below:
The seating area is fenced and adjacent to the building, but is not accessible only through
the building. Patrons exit the building, walk along the sidewalk adjacent to the parking
lot, and enter the outdoor seating area. In contrast to that installation is the installation at
Chipotle, which is permitted to have outdoor liquor consumption:
While difficult to see on that image, the outdoor seating at Chipotle is (in theory) only
accessible through the restaurant. In practice, the emergency egress gate (which is
required by code) permits immediate access to the parking lot, and the three foot tall
fence would permit easy passing of alcoholic beverages into the lot if desired. So while
the restrictions are well-intentioned, they are not necessarily resulting in improved public
safety.
Separately, the City has received inquiries from establishments with Club liquor licenses
who seek to have outdoor seating areas. At least some of the establishments have
designated areas that are not contiguous to the building, but that they would like to fence
and permit consumption within. For example, the Elks Lodge expressed interest in
fencing off a portion of their grassed area to the north side of their parking lot, and
permitting outdoor seating in that area:
This would not meet the current 'requirements.'
The proposal that staff will proceed with drafting would be to permit outdoor consumption
where: a) the outdoor consumption area is wholly fenced; b) beverages are only permitted in the
fenced area; and, c) delivery of beverages to the fenced area is by establishment service staff
only.
License ApplicationlRenewal Fees:
Based upon the direction of Council, staff has worked to develop a fee structure that
would treat all licensees fairly, and would not result in undue hardships to licensees. The
proposed fee structure is outlined below:
License Class Current Proposed Current New Proposed New
Renewal Renewal Application Application
(2012)
Package Liquor $2,525 $2,500 $10,000 $10,000
GrocerylDrug $3,333 $3,300 $5,150 $6,000
Small
Grocery/Drug $8,079 $6,600 $10,300 $10,500
Medium
Grocery/Drug N/A $9,900 N/A $15,000
Large
Bar A = $2,525 $2,500 $10,000 $10,000
Restaurant E = $3,434 $3,300 $4,750 $5,000
Full Service EE = $2,725
Liquor
Restaurant $2,275 $2,250 $3,275 $3,500
Low ABV Only
Hospitality Hotel = $3,434 $3,300 $4,750 $5,000
Banquet ;::; " " $3,250
Bowl = $2,075 $2,450
Public Entity/ Varies Set to match Varies Evaluate on
Non Profit current case by case
basis.
BYOB $252 $250 $250 $250
The proposal would also be to continue to incorporate an annual CPI adjustment for
license fees.
Other Items Proposed To Be Included in Revised Liquor Code:
• Liquor License for 'Large' Grocery: Proposal to create ·a new type of grocery store
liquor license, to permit larger establishments to sell liquor, with a sales floor of up to
4,000 square feet for liquor display. (Current Class D-D licensees are permitted to have
1,000 square feet, and Class D licensees are permitted to have 2,000 square feet.)
Current regulations would be revised such that the square footage regulations apply to the
size of the sales floorlbuilding, rather than the size of the "premises" (building + parking
lot).
• Banquet License Revision: The code would permit smaller establishments to obtain
'banquet' liquor licenses, either as a primary or secondary license, provided that they are
conducting events on a banquet basis (contract with a single entity for a large group, in a
large, common seating area, where the facility is paid for the entire group by the
contracting entity (instead of per table/restaurant style charges).
• Permit Package Liquor Stores to have Other Sales: Provided that they are adhering to
their 21 + age limits, package liquor stores would be permitted to have other types of
products available for sale.
• RestaurantlBar Dual Licensure: Currently, Class E restaurant licensees are permitted
to have a designated bar area, with physical separation (wall/fence) from the remainder of
the restaurant, where patrons may drink without eating, like a Class A license. The
revised code is proposed to have mirrored provisions, where bars could have a secondary
restaurant license and allow areas for eating with appropriate security measures and
physical separation; both types of licensees (bar and restaurant) would be treated
similarly.
• Sale of Package Liquors: Currently, Class A licensees are permitted to engage in the
sale of package liquors. The revised code is proposed to continue to permit bars to
engage in sales of package liquors.
• Sampling/Tasting Permitted: Establishments that have. licenses permitting retail sales
of package beverages would be permitted to have up to six sampling/tasting events per
year, without being required to have a separate license. They would be required to
comply with the City's liquor service requirements and to provide 2 weeks notice of a
proposed event, but no separate license would be obtained.
• Abandonment of License Number Restrictions: Currently, the liquor code includes
restrictions on the number of certain types of licenses that may be issued. The revised
code is proposed to eliminate those restrictions, given the changes in the types of licenses
that would be issued.
• Clarify Liquor License IssuancelRenewal Authority: The proposal would be to
update the code to clarify that the Liquor Commissioner has the independent authority to
issue a liquor license (after staff recommendation). For licenses that the Commissioner
believed required additional scrutiny, they could be referred to the full Council (or Liquor
Commission) for consideration. Renewal applications that are fully compliant with the
Code (for licensees without code violations) could be approved administratively.
• Simplify Special Events Processing: Currently, the City has an inspection protocol for
nearly every catered event. For example, Fatty's caters events at the Egyptian Theater
with some regularity, using a well-defined and well tested setup. If a vendor is using an
established setup at a previously inspected location (and there are no temporary structures
or temporary electrical services), the proposal would be to not require reinspection unless
deemed appropriate or necessary by staff.
• Codify Streamlined Violation Processing: The City has recently gone to use of
settlement agreements to process certain liquor code violations. For violators who have a
clean history but who have been found to have violated the liquor code, if the City and
the licensee agree, a formal hearing can be avoided, and the licensee can pay a prescribed
fine or serve a prescribed suspension. The city can also use compliance agreements to
impose additional restrictions upon licensees, where appropriate. The proposal is to
codify this process. Where either the City or the licensee does not wish to use the
simplified process, or where the licensee has adverse events in its history (2 violations in
18 months), the traditional hearing process would be utilized.
• Police Service Agreements for Special Events: The proposal is to codify the City's
recent use of police service agreements for special police details at special events where,
upon review of the application, the recommendation of staff is to utilize such agreements
and provide a special police detail to address unique public safety concerns (such as an
event being conducted on City property, etc.).
• Mirror State Liquor License Application: To the fullest extent possible, the City
would utilize the actual Illinois liquor license application for the local application, instead
of requiring applicants to duplicate their efforts. Any City-specific inquiries would still
be handled througb a specialized fonn.
• Abandon Duplicative Restrictions: The Code currently duplicates state law restrictions
on happy hours and cover charges. The duplicative language does not include any new or
additional restrictions. As the state regulations can be enforced locally, the proposal is to
eliminate any duplicative restrictions and simply enforce the state law unifonnly.