City Council
Regular MeetingDeKalb, IL · October 30, 2017
Minutes
MINUTES
SPECIAL MEETING OF CITY COUNCIL
OCTOBER 30, 2017
The City Council of DeKalb, Illinois, held a Special meeting on October 30, 2017, in the
City Council Chambers of the DeKalb Municipal Building, 200 South Fourth Street,
DeKalb, Illinois.
Mayor Smith called the meeting to order at 4:00 p.m.
Mayor Smith led the Pledge of Allegiance for those present.
A. Roll Call
Deputy City Clerk Scott called the roll and the following members of City Council were
present: Alderman David Jacobson, Alderman Bill Finucane, Alderman Mike Marquardt,
Alderman Pat Fagan, Alderman Kate Noreiko, Alderman Mike Verbic, Alderman Tony
Faivre, and Mayor Jerry Smith.
Also present were: City Manager Anne Marie Gaura, Assistant City Manager Patty
Hoppenstedt, City Attorney Dean Frieders, Police Chief Gene Lowery, Fire Chief Eric
Hicks, Community Development Director Jo Ellen Charlton, Public Works Director Tim
Holdeman, and Deputy City Clerk Ruth Scott.
B. Ordinance 2017-043 Authorizing the Acquisition and Stabilization of Real
Property Located at 912 Edgebrook Drive, and Authorizing an Amendment
to the FY2017 Budget.
Mayor Smith read Ordinance 2017-043 by title only.
Mayor Smith asked that anyone present wishing to speak to this item, or an item not
listed on the agenda, complete a Speaker Request form and give it to Deputy City Clerk
Scott. He further stated that anyone wishing to address Council regarding this item
would be allowed to speak prior to discussion by Council.
MOTION
Alderman Verbic motioned to consider Ordinance 2017-043; seconded by Alderman
Faivre.
Community Development Director Charlton provided an overview and history of this
item, stating that in the fall of 2014, the City became aware of building code violations at
the subject property during Northern Illinois University’s (NIU) move-in weekend. As a
result of those violations, the City gained access to the property at the invitation of the
tenants and then at the consent of the property owner. During those visits, the property
was determined to be in an unsafe condition and posted as uninhabitable. The tenants
were then relocated to alternate safe housing.
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Community Development Director Charlton continued, stating that the property
remained posted as uninhabitable for at least two years, with the owner not making any
effort to remediate or renovate the property. The owner would not consent to further
inspection of the property by the City, so the City obtained a search warrant and
completed a full inspection of the property in 2016. That inspection showed significant
mold growth within the property and the presence of material containing asbestos. As
part of that process, the City undertook a complex evaluation of the building in the
months to follow. The results of that evaluation were that the building was unsafe and
the cost to repair it exceeded the fair market value of the building. In April of 2017, with
authorization from City Council, the City filed for demolition of the building.
The property has been offered for sale at various times over the past few years, but
remains unremediated. The owner contacted the City at some point with an inquiry into
the ability to renovate the property and redevelop it as a high density residential use.
More recently, the City was offered the option to purchase the property at a greatly
reduced price. The ordinance before Council at this time provides the cost of the
property at $192,500. In the court demolition proceeding, the court has already granted
the owner time to complete a voluntary sale.
This item is being brought before Council to provide two options to determine different
outcomes for this property. The first would be to direct staff to purchase the property,
and in that case, the City would expend the purchase price and incur additional costs for
asbestos remediation and potential renovation or demolition of the property. Further,
acquiring the property would provide the City the ability to completely control and dictate
the future of the properties future.
The second option would be that Council could choose to not acquire the property,
which may result in the City prevailing in the demolition action described earlier, but
demolition costs would have to be incurred by the City. This option could result in the
property being sold to a third party who may redevelop the property as high density
residential.
Community Development Director Charlton indicated that Council’s decision at this
meeting does not determine if the property will be redeveloped or demolished. It merely
determines whether or not the City purchases the property, which is the only method
available to control the future potential outcome of the property.
The timing of this property acquisition is based on the timeline of this matter, which is
scheduled to go to court on November 3, 2017, for further action. City staff had only
learned of the potential to acquire the property at a steeply discounted price a little over
a week ago.
The City does not have an identified funding mechanism for this property acquisition.
However, based the on potential for this property to have a significant impact on the
Annie Glidden North (AGN) area, staff brought this item forward for Council
consideration for acquisition using the General Fund balance. She added that it’s at
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Council’s discretion and preference. From a staff perspective, it is believed that the
potential for an adverse impact on the neighborhood if the property were reopened as
high density residential outweighs the impact on General Fund balance.
Through the FY2018 budget, the City is also looking at ways of meaningfully addressing
the long term budget concerns, but that’s a much broader discussion than this topic. It
should also be considered that the City’s credit rating is influenced by more than just the
General Fund balance. If the this property is redeveloped it will have an impact on
surrounding properties and could impact community development and property values
in ways that has far broader impacts on the City’s credit rating and the quality of life for
residents in the area.
Community Development Director Charlton noted that she had a brief conversation with
Finance Director Talkington prior to this meeting, who evaluated the $250,000
authorized by this ordinance and has determined that the City will not fall below the 25%
fund balance for either FY2017 or FY2018.
Community Development Director Charlton asked Police Chief Lowery to provide
Council with some of the safety measures we feel are important as part of this
recommendation.
Police Chief Lowery offered his perspective on public safety concerns the community is
dealing with regarding crime. He stated there’s been a variety of measures undertaken
to address those in the past, and they are still ongoing. One of the recent measures
was a proactive enforcement campaign where about 243 people were arrested in in 27
days, as well as serving a variety of search and arrest warrants. He noted that putting
those proactive measures in place is just one component, and that’s what the Council,
and the community, needs to hear. There’s a mindset in one group of the community
that feels that all the City’s problems can be solved with law enforcement. Another
group feels it can be solved by addressing social needs, specifically, mental health,
poverty, rental property surplus, and others, adding that neither side is right and neither
side is wrong.
Police Chief Lowery continued, stating that he has inspected the subject property,
finding the conditions disturbing and deplorable.
Police Chief Lowery also recalled a meeting he arranged earlier this year with Police
Chiefs from major public university communities to address the significant spike in crime
in 2016, bearing in mind that from 2012 – 2015 there was a significant decrease in
crime except for one caveat, weapons related offenses and gun violence. The Police
Chiefs in attendance also agreed that the most significant impact on crime is rental
property surplus.
This property isn’t going to do anything for the community by putting more people back
in to it, especially if people are put back in to it after making only minor surface repairs.
He feels the City should follow the example of neighboring communities, such as Elgin,
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who’ve done a vast amount of project renovations and/or tear downs, and their crime
rate has diminished.
Police Chief Lowery stated he isn’t an advocate of taking property without due process,
but he does feel that people who don’t take care of their property should not have the
right to own it. On behalf of the DeKalb Police Officers, he hopes this becomes an
opportunity to put this property in the City’s control, making it our choice what happens.
He also hopes that to other property owners this is a message. While 90% of property
owners in this community are doing the right thing, there’s a minority that aren’t. It’s time
to take action and this is the first step.
Community Development Director Charlton stated that Police Chief Lowery painted a
very descriptive picture of the building and hopes it sticks in them minds when
considering the acquisition of the property. She knows there are those in the
community that question whether the City should acquire property from people who
have chosen to defer maintenance, rewarding them with purchasing their property.
However, the City needs to take a positon on this property in order to have a positive
impact. The court ordered demolition process is happening now. The property owner
will either find someone to purchase the property and then the City will have to take its
chances with whomever that is to renovate and end up with the addition of another high
density property back into that area. The alternative is that the City is successful in the
litigation and still obligated to spend money to demolish the property. That demolition
then sets what happens to the property. There are people in the room that think the
property should be demolished, while others feel maybe there’s some other use for it.
Acquiring the property at this point puts the City in the driver’s seat with the ability to
decide which way to go.
Mayor Smith opened the meeting to the public for comments.
Lynn Fazekas provided her opinion that this meeting is in violation of the Open
Meetings Act (OMA), stating that the public notice of a meeting should list the time, date
and location of a meeting, and putting an agenda on letterhead doesn’t fulfill that
requirement. She added that she will be taking action on the matter. Ms. Fazekas also
offered her opinion regarding the City’s purchase of the subject property.
Mayor Smith addressed Ms. Fazekas’ comments, stating that he discussed the matter
with City Attorney Frieders, as well as reviewing prior agendas of City Council. He
noted that the agenda for this meeting was very similar to past City Council agendas,
whether they were Regular or Special meetings, adding that it’s a forgone conclusion
that meetings of City Council are held at City Hall in Council chambers. Mayor Smith
expressed to Ms. Fazekas his appreciation of her input and concerns.
Ms. Fazekas commented that Special meetings of City Council have not always been
held in Council Chambers, but in various locations throughout the community such as
the DeKalb Public Library, the Police Department, Northern Illinois University, and at the
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DeKalb High School. She also indicated that providing an agenda on letterhead simply
isn’t the same as explicitly stating the location of a meeting.
Will Heinisch stated that he sent an email to about 60 people who he felt might have an
interest in offering their opinion on what happens with the subject property. He then
shared some of the responses he received, some of which were in favor of the City
purchasing the property, and some not. Mr. Heinisch offered his opinion that no
decision should be made by Council until three things happen: 1) the City should
consult stakeholder groups including DARA, the AGN Taskforce, NIU, citizens, and
others; 2) an appraisal should be done; and 3) a very clear plan of the development of
the property should be in place. If there is no clear plan, the City should not purchase
the property.
Bessie Chronopoulos concurred with Mr. Heinisch’s comments regarding the purchase
of the subject property. She also indicated that she’s in agreement with Ms. Fazekas’
comments regarding Council meeting notification. Ms. Chronopoulos then provided her
opinion regarding the topic of the subject property, stating that before Council makes a
decision, perhaps a vetting of the details should be completed. She also stated that as
a point of procedure, the subject ordinance has three to four items on it – the purchase
of the property, stabilization of the property, the amendment of the FY2017 budget, and
the establishment of a posted no parking zone – and indicated that each of these items
should have been addressed separately.
John Anderson stated that he agrees with Ms. Fazekas’ comments regarding Council
meeting notification. He then offered that he could think of a lot better things the money
could be spent on rather than purchasing the subject property.
Mayor Smith shared portions of emails and phone calls he had received throughout the
day, including comments from Ron Naylor, Mark Charvat, and Scott Campbell, who
indicated their opposition of purchasing the property, and another from Acting NIU
President Lisa Freeman supporting the purchase.
Mayor Smith then opened the discussion to Council members.
Alderman Verbic asked if the charge for stabilization would be required if the property is
demolished right away. Community Development Director Charlton replied that if the
City purchases the property and decides to not take any further remediation or
demolition action right away, it would be proposed to spend some of that money to
secure windows, doors, etc.
Alderman Faivre asked if it was decided to demolish the building on the property, would
asbestos remediation have to take place first, with Community Development Director
Charlton replying it would.
Alderman Faivre also stated that he would like to see what the AGN Task Force and the
community might have in mind for the building on the property. While he realizes that
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everyone wants to remove density from the area, he expressed his preference in seeing
the building repurposed, perhaps housing an immediate care clinic, grocery store
options, and/or a community center. Alderman Faivre further commented that he would
like to see some of the monies spent for the purchase of the property taken from the
FY2018 budget.
Alderman Noreiko asked how many other properties in DeKalb are in the process of
being condemned at this time. City Attorney Frieders replied that there are number of
smaller residential units, and some larger properties going through code enforcement
issues but not at the point that they are demolition eligible.
There was a brief discussion between Alderman Noreiko and City Attorney Frieders
regarding the steps taken prior to taking legal action on property issues.
Mayor Smith asked if the condemnation process would stop if someone came forward
wanting to purchase the property. City Attorney Frieders replied that in cases such as
this, judges will give the owner every opportunity to remediate, repair or sell the property
prior to ordering the demolition.
Alderman Fagan pointed out that Council doesn’t want to take money from the General
Fund that isn’t budgeted. Nor do they want to take property off tax role or be real-estate
speculators. However, at times hard decisions have to be made, not only for the safety
of the neighborhood, but also for the City’s Police Officers, Firefighters, and Building
Inspectors. This building has been a problem and if decisions are stalled, it may cost
even more money to fix the problem.
Alderman Jacobson stated that he’s very well aware of the issues regarding the subject
property because it’s in his ward. He then stated that the first question he would ask
residents is “what would you do if this was the property next door to you?” He further
stated that the property has been in legal limbo for years. It’s a nuisance and a public
safety issue. As he’s looked at comments left on blogs and newspaper articles, the
prevailing thought seems to be, “stop talking and do something about it”. The
community has asked the City to do something about the increased rate of crime and
now that it has an option, people are asking Council to slow down their decision. That’s
frustrating to him.
Alderman Jacobson continued, providing his thoughts on the situation at hand and
commenting on why the City is moving quickly on this item. He added that purchasing
the property gives the City the best opportunity to control the outcome of its future.
Mayor Smith commented on the AGN Taskforce, stating that he’d like to get their input
on the future of the property.
Alderman Noreiko stated that initially she was not in favor of the City becoming a
landlord. However, she has become convinced, especially since it’s in the AGN area.
She thinks that the purchase of the property is a proactive step in the right direction.
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Alderman Verbic stated that an important lesson to him is how the City got here and
asked if the City is doing things now to help avoid this type of situation moving forward,
where perhaps a property owner is having trouble maintaining all of the codes that are
required.
Alderman Marquardt left the dais at 5:11 p.m. and returned at 5:13 p.m.
City Attorney Frieders replied to Alderman Verbic’s question, stating he thinks this a
good opportunity for Council to have a meaningful discussion on what their policy
direction is in regard to code enforcement, with City departments providing a variety of
perspectives. The City continues to take immediate action in every circumstance where
something is found that poses an immediate threat to public safety. In the course of
doing so, more and more properties are being posted as uninhabitable on an annual
basis. It’s a growing trend rather than a reducing trend. The City is doing things
differently than it did years ago and continues to increase the effectiveness to use
resources it has for code enforcement
Alderman Finucane stated that as the AGN area is trying improve, here’s an opportunity
to remove some of the density. He further stated that there was mention of a building a
park for children to play in. He believes the property should be purchased.
Alderman Marquardt stated that he appreciates everyone’s comments on the subject
property. He believes that time and opportunity have been given to the owners to
remediate the issues for years and far past the point of doing anything else with it. If the
City purchases the property, it will provide potential to do something with the
neighborhood and the area and eliminate a potential for further issues. He agreed with
Alderman Jacobson in that it’s time to take action.
MOTION TO AMEND
Alderman Jacobson motioned to amend Ordinance 2017-043 by adding that the budget
for FY2017 and FY2018 shall not be caused to drop below a twenty-five percent (25%)
general fund reserve by virtue of the acquisition and purchase of this property;
seconded by Alderman Faivre.
Community Development Director reiterated her comments from the beginning of the
meeting stating that she had a brief conversation with Finance Director Talkington prior
to this meeting, who evaluated the $250,000 authorized by this ordinance and has
determined that the City will not fall below the 25% fund balance for either FY2017 or
FY2018.
Alderman Jacobson stated that he just wants to make sure that the fund balance
doesn’t go below 25%.
There was brief discussion regarding the motion.
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VOTE ON AMENDMENT
Motion carried by an 8-0 roll call vote. Aye: Jacobson, Finucane, Marquardt, Fagan,
Noreiko, Verbic, Faivre, Smith. Nay: None. Mayor Smith declared the motion passed.
VOTE
Motion carried by an 8-0 roll call vote. Aye: Jacobson, Finucane, Marquardt, Fagan,
Noreiko, Verbic, Faivre, Smith. Nay: None. Mayor Smith declared the motion passed.
City Attorney Frieders stated that given the timeline, staff requests the waiver of second
reading and passage of Ordinance 2017-043.
MOTION
Alderman Finucane motioned to waive Second Reading, and the passage of Ordinance
2017-043; seconded by Alderman Noreiko.
VOTE
Motion carried by an 8-0 roll call vote. Motion carried by an 8-0 roll call vote. Aye:
Jacobson, Finucane, Marquardt, Fagan, Noreiko, Verbic, Faivre, Smith. Nay: None.
Mayor Smith declared the motion passed.
C. Public Comment
Mr. Heinisch commented on Alderman Jacobson’s thought of an RFP or RFQ for private
industry to revitalize the subject property. He asked that when that idea is presented to
the AGN Task Force that there be some back up material or information of how that
would work and some items of what’s put together for the RFP or RFQ.
Mayor Smith added, and Alderman Finucane confirmed, that the next AGN community
meeting will be held on November 2, 2017, at Westminster Church.
Mayor Smith also added, with Alderman Finucane confirming, that the next AGN Task
Force meeting will be held on November 7, 2017, at the DeKalb County Outreach
Building.
D. Adjournment
MOTION
Alderman Jacobson motioned to adjourn the meeting; seconded by Alderman Verbic.
VOTE
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Motion carried by an 8-0 voice vote. Aye: Jacobson, Finucane, Marquardt, Fagan,
Noreiko, Verbic, Faivre, Smith. Nay: None. Mayor Smith declared the motion passed,
and adjourned the meeting at 5:22 p.m.
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RUTH A. SCOTT, Deputy City Clerk
Approved by City Council: November 27, 2017.