Finance Advisory Committee
Regular MeetingDeKalb, IL · November 10, 2015
Minutes
MINUTES
FINANCE ADVISORY COMMITTEE
CITY OF DEKALB
NOVEMBER 10, 2015
The Finance Advisory Committee held a meeting on Tuesday, November 10, 2015 in the
Council Chambers of the DeKalb Municipal Building, 200 South Fourth Street, DeKalb, Illinois.
Chairman Peddle called the meeting to order at 5:04 p.m.
ROLL CALL
Committee members present were Mike Peddle, Connie Golden, Lynn Neeley, Ronald Partch and
Tom Teresinski. Absent: David Conlin and Mike Verbic.
City staff present were City Manager Anne Marie Gaura, Finance Director Cathy Haley, Police
Chief Gene Lowery (arrived at 5:23 p.m.), Interim Fire Chief Jeff McMaster, Assistant City
Manager Patty Hoppenstedt (arrived at 5:04 p.m.), Interim Public Works Director/City Engineer
John Laskowski, Community Development Director Ellen Divita (arrived at 5:11 p.m.) and
Account Technician Carri Parker.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Minutes of the October 27, 2015 meeting was reviewed and approved on a motion by
Committee Member Neeley, seconded by Committee Member Golden with the understanding
the suggested changes would be made.
MOODY’S OCTOBER 2015 RATINGS REPORT
Finance Director Haley explained that the City has kept their current rating of Aa2, however
Moody’s put the negative outlook back on to the final report. The City has had a negative outlook
attached prior to 2013, but it was dropped when the city made several budget cuts in 2010 to help
improve fund balance reserves. While the City is now in a better financial position with General
Fund Reserves the change in methodology from Moody’s has them attaching this negative outlook
again to the City’s bond rating. The factor weighing debt and pension liabilities doubled from 10%
to 20%. The negative outlook reflects the city's growing pension liabilities and the persistent
declines to the property tax base (EAV).
Finance Director Haley went on to state that the report does compliment the City on its improved
financial position over the last three years, however the declining EAV and the pension liability
still raised concern to Moody’s which is why they applied the negative outlook. Outlooks are
applied to credits that Moody’s believe may be pressured in the next year or two. Moody’s reviews
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all credits in its portfolio every year but credits with an outlook are typically presented to a rating
committee for a possible rating change within a year or two of the outlook assignment. Therefore,
the City can certainly work to get this negative outlook dropped again.
2015 TAX LEVY
Finance Director Haley d i s c u s s e d w h y n e w l e g i s l a t i o n a n d a c t u a r i a l v a l u a t i o n
c h a n g e s h a v e m a d e t h i s p r o c e s s d i f f i c u l t t h i s t a x ye a r a n d b r o k e t h e
discussion down in to a series of questions meant to spark discussion among
the committee.
Finance Director Haley reviewed the handout that listed the history of the tax levy allocation for
the City. The City’s past practice was not to levy dollars for debt payments. We are not levying
for any other items but we could. She added that there is a hierarchy that goes in line with the City’s
Financial Polices. The Police and Fire Pensions are currently at the lowest State level since 2011.
Committee Chair Peddle clarified that the portion of the levy that is for the Fire/Police Pensions is
the employer portion only. He added that the employees do contribute to their pensions and that the
tax levy is only the employer portion.
Committee Member Teresinski commented that the mortality rate is affecting the change. He stated
that he would support a modest increase in the levy. Past practice had been to increase the property
tax due to new growth. He stated that finding alternative revenue streams to help increase the fund
would be supported.
Committee Member Golden questioned options 4, 5 & 6. Finance Director Haley stated that these
three options are based on Senate Bill 318. Committee Chair Peddle explained that we need to
determine how much of the pension costs the City should cover through the property tax levy.
Committee Member Teresinski requested that we do a tax rate analysis before supporting a major
tax increase. Finance Director Haley stated that the City will be doing an analysis. The EPI report
states that the City needs to broaden the tax base between sales tax and property tax.
City Manager Gaura clarified that if there is not an increase we will have to eliminate an
expenditure.
Committee Chair Peddle commented that he supports the funding methodology from GFOA and
Moody’s. He discussed how the pensions are funded and where applied. He suggested that we fully
load the personnel costs that is loaned to other entities instead of just getting reimbursed for the
hourly wage. He explained that the City needs to cover the higher pension costs and need to find
other sources of revenue.
During the lengthy discussion, Committee Chair Peddle chose to go through each option and take
a vote. He suggested that the Committee go through the remaining options and determine the best
option. He proceeded to go through the remaining options and determine the differences. City
Manager Gaura suggested to look at Option 5, dollar amount only.
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Committee Chair Peddle wanted to take a straw poll of which options to suggest. Option 1 – no
recommendation, Option 3 – no recommendation, Option 6 – no recommendation.
Committee Member Teresinski stated that his option that he suggested is not listed in the options.
Committee Chair Peddle stated he is unable to support it and that the City has to fully fund the
pensions. Teresinski added that he can support higher pension funding but operating costs will
need to be analyzed.
Committee Member Neely added that we need to think about new individuals moving to the area.
She would like to keep the Property Taxes low. This will allow attractiveness and help determine
where people will want to live. She does support funding the pension obligations, but she does not
want to see the entire amount in the property taxes.
Committee Chair Peddle communicated the problems with the ideology of the property taxes. It’s
not the City tax portion that is increasing it’s the School District that is increasing and is 63% of
the property taxes. He is tired of the City being blamed for the increase. City Manager Gaura asked
the Committee to look at the last 5 years and see the trends of the increases between the City and
the school district. She stated that long-term the pensions will continue to be an issue.
Finance Director Haley reviewed and discussed all options with the Finance Committee for the
2015 Tax Levy. She stated that Option 5 is what the staff is recommending.
MOTION
Committee Member Teresinski motioned an option of $4.4MM to include the growth of new
activity plus a CPI increase of 1%; seconded by Committee Member Neeley.
VOTE
Motion did not pass on a 2-3 roll call vote. Aye: Teresinski, and Neeley. Nay: Peddle, Partch,
Golden. Committee Chair Peddle declared motion died.
City Manager Gaura added that in the future months, there will be discussions on the expenditures
and how the City is having difficulty maintaining the vehicles, ambulances, squad cars, and large
equipment. She recommended that the Committee take into consideration when deciding on which
option these expenditures that are not being recognized in the current budget. Committee Member
Neeley agreed that the information provided in early spring gave a perfect perspective of the
situation.
Committee Chair requested that the Committee decide on Option 2, 4 and 5.
MOTION
Committee Member Partch motioned to approve the 2015 Tax Levy Option 5; seconded by
Committee Member Neeley.
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VOTE
Motion passed on a 4-1 roll call vote. Aye: Peddle, Golden, Neeley, and Partch. Nay: Teresinski.
Committee Chair Peddle declared motion passed.
MOTION
Committee Member Partch motioned to approve the 2015 Tax Levy Option 2; seconded by
Committee Member Golden.
VOTE
Motion did not pass on a 1-4 roll call vote. Aye: Partch. Nay: Peddle, Golden, Teresinski and
Neeley. Committee Chair Peddle declared motion died.
MOTION
Committee Member Golden motioned to approve the 2015 Tax Levy Option 4; no seconded.
Motion died for lack of a second.
The Finance Advisory Committee concluded to proceed with Option 5.
BUDGET YEAR-END CHANGE
Finance Director Haley purposed a change in the Fiscal Year End from June 30 year end to Dec
31 year end. She added that the department affected the most will the Public Works as it will allow
3 benefits: plan projects earlier, obtain better pricing pre-season instead of post-season, and
increase of meeting completion date.
Interim Public Works Director John Laskowski added that when projects are let they are in August
and typically contractors are filling up their schedules in March or earlier. With our letting of bids
that late is causing problems with companies closing for the winter, higher pricing due to short
completion date or late project notification.
Committee Chair Peddle commented that he believes that we need to change the fiscal year. He
stated that the levy discussions would be for that following January and not 6 months later and the
timing of the pension due date would be in-line, more information about the large expenses like
the large pension bills, and new council members will not be coming on in the middle of the budget
cycle. He added that there is more symmetry with changing the fiscal year.
Committee Member Teresinski stated he was concerned with the management of the change in
fiscal year. Committee Member Golden questioned the auditing and engineering services and how
that would be affected. Committee Chair Peddle explained that over-time we would recover the
additional expenses. He added that in one project the City could recoup the funds as there will not
be additional fees associated with letting earlier in the year.
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Committee Member Teresinski requested that the City will be doing a full year analysis for the 6
month budget cycle and a 5 year financial plan and publish that as part of the budget cycle. Finance
Director Haley added that the staff has already started the fact checking and developing a document
that will show the fee schedule and stated that the 5 year is one of the financial policies.
MOTION
Committee Member Partch motioned to approve the change in the Fiscal Year from 7/1 to 1/1;
seconded by Committee Member Golden.
VOTE
Motion passed on a 3-2 roll call vote. Aye: Peddle, Golden, and Partch. Nay: Neeley and
Teresinski. Committee Chair Peddle declared motion passed.
PUBLIC PARTICIPATION
Bessie Chronopoulos commented that long range planning is top priority. She added that we need
to prove to the public that we are reducing operating costs and lowering expenditures. Ms.
Chronopoulos added that the City is not cutting back as much as we should and it is not a good
idea to change the fiscal year as it will make it hard to compare.
Ms. Chronopoulos and Committee Chair Peddle discussed the EAV and its stabilization.
ADJOURNMENT
Committee Member Teresinski moved to adjourn the meeting, seconded by Committee Member
Neeley. The meeting adjourned at 7:19 p.m.
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Carri Parker, Account Technician II
These minutes were approved by the Finance Advisory Committee on April 5, 2016