Human Relations Commission
Regular MeetingDeKalb, IL · June 7, 2022
Minutes
Minutes
City of DeKalb
Human Relations Commission
June 7, 2022
The Human Relations Commission (HRC) held a regular meeting on June 7, 2022 in the Second Floor Training
Room at the DeKalb Police Department.
A. Roll Call
The meeting was called to order at 6:08 pm. The following members of the HRC were present: Joe Gastiger
(Chair), Nadine Franklin, Lisa King and Andre Powell.
Other City officials/staff present:
• City Manager Bill Nicklas
• Scott Zak, Management Analyst and Staff Liaison to the HRC
B. Approval of Agenda – Additions/Deletions
Ms. King said she would have an announcement under New Business.
Chair Gastiger asked for a motion to approve the agenda. It was motioned by Ms. King and seconded by Ms.
Franklin. The agenda was approved by unanimous voice vote.
C. Approval of Minutes – April 5, 2022 Regular Meeting
Chair Gastiger asked for a motion to approve the minutes. Ms. King motioned, seconded by Ms. Franklin. The
minutes were approved by unanimous voice vote.
D. Public Participation –
Resident Mark Charvat said license plate readers (LPRs) were discussed several times by the Commission but
the LPR policy never went to the City Council and he felt it should.
Mr. Charvat said gas prices are high and the City is generating additional revenue through a 2.75 percent sales
tax on non-food items. He said the gas tax should be temporarily eliminated since it is regressive or there
should be a discussion on how the additional revenue is spent.
Chair Gastiger said the Commission will take the suggestion under advisement and that it might be a topic the
Finance Advisory Committee wants to take up.
City Manager Nicklas explained the LPR policy is an operational policy of the Police Department and that
operational policies do not have to go before the City Council. He said the Police Department has been
approved to access the databases used by the LPRs and they are now operational.
Ms. Franklin read a letter from Joe Mitchell, pastor of New Hope Missionary Baptist Church. He said the
community is excited about the demolitions of the 912 Edgebrook Drive apartment building, Campus Cinemas
building and Hunter Hillcrest shopping center and that the vacancies represent hope, opportunity and a
brighter future. He said chatter around the Annie Glidden North (AGN) neighborhood and its residents is a
stereotyping and misrepresentation often grounded in racism that will take years of labor and engagement of
the AGN residents to change. He said the voices of AGN residents are often overlooked and devalued. He said
the AGN Revitalization Plan sets a goal to work towards. He said the redevelopment of the Hunter Hillcrest
property should not just make a developer rich but meet the needs of those living in the neighborhood. Pastor
Mitchell said he is concerned the development will become a colonization opportunity by individuals suffering
from white savior syndrome and that he is concerned that those who do not live or operate in the community
will tell those who do what they need. He said the residents should not be overlooked, that there is no such
thing as collecting too much information from the people and that government leaders may need to go into
the neighborhood and engage the residents.
Ms. King moved up her announcement to this portion of the agenda. She said the Mental Health Advisory
Board is conducting a survey and would like every organization and its members to complete it and pass it on
to others. She said the survey will help DeKalb County improve mental health services.
Returning to Pastor Mitchell’s comments, Chair Gastiger said he wants to be mindful of white savior syndrome
but does not want to start from square one, noting efforts were made to gather community input by the task
force that developed the Annie Glidden North Revitalization Plan. He said he wants to be mindful of the
community input already received while continuing discussions with the community.
Chair Gastiger distributed the core goals of the AGN Revitalization Plan. They include developing cohesion
between the neighborhood and the rest of the City, providing residents with a foundation to thrive
economically as long-term members of the community, increasing access to healthy food and addressing
deficiencies in social services.
Ms. King asked why the goal to grow the local tax base with new residents does not include existing residents.
Chair Gastiger said he did not know why but believes many of the goals fall under the Commission’s purview.
Ms. King said revitalizing the AGN should be seen as a Citywide investment. Chair Gastiger notes the DeKalb
Park District built a splash pad in Welsh Park to help make the neighborhood a destination, so there have been
efforts to incorporate the whole City. Ms. Franklin said opening a Trader Joe’s in the AGN would draw more
people. Mr. Powell noted you first need to have someone who wants to build a Trader Joe’s. City Nicklas said
Trader Joe’s has been on the City’s radar for ten years but there is not enough population here, noting the City
has 40,000 residents while the chain’s Batavia location has 1.5 million people within 25 miles.
E. Old Business
F. New Business
1. Progress Report on Redevelopment in the AGN Neighborhood
City Manager Nicklas presented a brief history of the City’s contributions to the AGN redevelopment.
He says through demolitions, the City has created space for positive developments but the community
will discuss what the specific uses will be starting with direction from the City Council.
Mr. Nicklas said four building initiatives had to be done after it was determined the area with the most
decrepit properties and crime was the core of the neighborhood.
The City went to court and took ownership of the 912 Edgebrook apartment building. Nicklas said it
had to be demolished and the resulting green space has been beneficial.
Mr. Nicklas said the Hunter Hillcrest shopping center was known to be decrepit but the City did not yet
have a foothold in that area. That came when the City was able to arrange a land swap for property
adjacent to Campus Cinemas. From there, an agreement was reached to demolish the movie theater.
For Hunter Hillcrest, a settlement was reached where the City could make an offer to purchase four of
Hunter Properties’ largest complexes. The City took ownership of Hunter Hillcrest, which has been
razed, and the property will be seeded once the crushed concrete at the site is cleared. Mr. Nicklas said
Hunter is claiming to own a spite strip on the east end of the Hunter Hillcrest property, but he said
County records show it is the City’s property. In total, Mr. Nicklas said the City has invested $4.8 million
in the AGN neighborhood over three-and-a-half years.
Chair Gastiger said he hopes the discussions on the future of the Hunter Hillcrest property go into the
AGN neighborhood. Mr. Nicklas said the project will need to be sustainable since it is unlikely there will
be federal money for support. He said that means the project will need to be profitable, and for the
project to be profitable, it will need to be something that draws people into the neighborhood.
Mr. Powell questioned whether crime needs to be addressed first. Mr. Nicklas said following the sale of
Hunter Tri-Frat, Hunter Ridgebrook and Lincoln Tower, police calls have gone down, more people are
paying rent and families are feeling better.
Ms. King discussed successful neighborhood revitalizations in Chicago and suggested talking with those
who have done this elsewhere. Mr. Nicklas said the City has done this, talking with groups from
Chicago, including nonprofits. He said an option for Hunter Hillcrest is creating a short list of uses and
then putting out a request for proposals, which can always be redone if the responses are not
acceptable. He said the hard part is over and now is the point to work together and talk frankly while
also making a decision.
Ms. King said a postcard survey with the top possible uses for the property may be a good idea for
soliciting input. Chair Gastiger said he did not want to discount what other groups have done, including
a recent meeting by Opportunity DeKalb with around 70 attendees. Mr. Powell said building
relationships may be necessary to solicit input since postcards may be thrown out. Ms. King added that
new residents have moved to the neighborhood since the AGN plan was created, so you do not want
to leave those people out.
Ms. King said she would like to see a Farmers’ Market or other events in the neighborhood. Mr. Powell
said a new building will be needed to grow the community.
G. Adjournment
Chair Gastiger asked for a motion to adjourn the meeting. Mr. Powell made the motion, seconded by Ms. King.
The motion was approved by unanimous voice vote. The meeting was declared adjourned at 7:37 p.m. The
next meeting is scheduled for July 5, 2022.
Scott Zak, Management Liaison & HRC Liaison
Minutes approved by the Human Relations Commission on August 2, 2022.
Agenda
AGENDA
Human Relations Commission Meeting
June 7, 2022
6:00 PM
Note Amended Time
DeKalb Police Department
700 W Lincoln Hwy
2nd Floor Training Room
DeKalb, Illinois 60115
A. Roll Call
B. Approval of Agenda – Additions/Deletions
C. Approval of Minutes – April 5, 2022
D. Public Participation
E. Old Business
F. New Business
1. Progress Report on Redevelopment in the AGN Neighborhood
G. Adjournment
Minutes
City of DeKalb
Human Relations Commission
April 5, 2022
The Human Relations Commission (HRC) held a regular meeting on April 5, 2022, in the Second Floor Training
Room at the DeKalb Police Department.
A. Roll Call
In the absence of Chair Joe Gastiger, Staff Liaison Scott Zak called the meeting to order at 6:03 p.m. The following
members of the HRC were present: Nadine Franklin, Norden Gilbert, Lisa King and Andre Powell.
Other City officials/staff present:
• Mayor Cohen Barnes
• Fifth Ward Alderman Scott McAdams
• City Manager Bill Nicklas
• Chief of Police David Byrd
• Scott Zak, Management Analyst and Staff Liaison to the HRC
B. Approval of Agenda – Additions/Deletions
Mr. Zak asked for a motion to approve the agenda. It was motioned by Mr. Gilbert and seconded by Mr. King.
The agenda was approved by unanimous voice vote.
C. Appointment of temporary chair for the April 5, 2022, meeting
Mr. Zak asked for a motion to appoint a temporary chair to serve for the meeting. Ms. King motioned for Mr.
Gilbert to serve as temporary chair, seconded by Ms. Franklin. Mr. Gilbert was appointed temporary chair by
unanimous voice vote.
D. Approval of Minutes – February 1, 2022 Regular Meeting
Mr. Gilbert asked for a motion to approve the minutes. Ms. King motioned, seconded by Ms. Franklin. The
minutes were approved by unanimous voice vote.
E. Public Participation –
Resident Mark Charvat raised a concern about the draft policy for the License Plate Reader (LPR) program
allowing the LPRs to be used to stop a car with a registered owner whose license is revoked. He explained he
knows someone with a revoked license whose son drives her to work and questioned whether the son will be
pulled over. Mr. Charvat also raised a concern about the term “but are not limited to” in section II-D, which
provides reasons a vehicle can be put on the BOLO (Be On the Look Out) list, and questioned whether that
could include speeding. Mr. Charvat said overall the policy looked pretty good.
Chief Byrd responded to Mr. Charvat’s concerns. He said section II-D lists what the LPRs are able to do, not
what the DeKalb Police Department will do with them. He said in DeKalb, the LPRs will be used to find those
wanted for crimes, subjects of Amber and Silver alerts, felonious vehicles and vehicles involved in hit-and-
runs. Regarding revoked licenses, Chief Byrd said an officer would not be able to stop the vehicle in the
scenario described by Mr. Charvat. The officer would not have probable cause after noticing the driver was
male while the owner with a revoked license is female. He said in some instances, such as a vehicle with tinted
windows, there could be a traffic stop. Chief Byrd said the LPRs are a positive technology which will provide
results quickly.
F. Old Business
1. Review draft License Plate Reader policy
Chief Byrd reviewed key points of the three-page Police Department policy for use of LPRs. He
explained the LPRs look for vehicles on the BOLO list, which is based on entries by law enforcement
agencies. When a license plate on the BOLO list passes an LPR, there is an alert and the LPR that sent
the alert will show up as red on a monitor in the telecommunications center. Dispatchers will then
retrieve the plate number, vehicle make and what the subject is wanted for and relay that information
and the area in which the car is located to officers.
City Manager Bill Nicklas asked who enters the information that the LPRs search for. Chief Byrd
responded the police department enters as much information about a vehicle as possible, so there is a
human element to start the process.
Chief Byrd explained there are two types of alerts. For immediate alerts, officers will respond to the
vehicle as soon as information is relayed from dispatchers. Non-encounter alerts are entered by law
enforcement agencies that want to know the location of a vehicle but do not want other agencies to
make contact with the subjects. Chief Byrd explained filters can be used to determine which type of
BOLO will send an alert, such as outstanding warrants and Amber and Silver alerts.
Chief Byrd said had the LPRs already been in place, the Police Department would have made quicker
arrests in some cases, including recent burglaries. He explained the equipment has been installed;
however, an agreement with the Illinois State Police is still needed for the system to get leads from the
BOLO databases. He hopes the leads access will come in the next week and said the Police Department
will be tracking data, including arrests made with the aid of the LPRs, to report on the system’s
effectiveness.
Commissioner King asked what happens if the license plates on a wanted car are switched out with
plates off another car. Chief Byrd said the LPRs would not be effective but that the car might still be
stopped if an officer checks the plates and sees they do not match the make of the vehicle. Responding
to a comment on speeding, Chief Byrd explained the LPRs are not made for tracking speed and that
red-light cameras need to be posted.
2. My Story, Our Time Upcoming Program
Commissioner Franklin shared that following the resignation of the chair of the Stage Coach Players’
Diversity Committee, it is unknown if My Story, Our Time will be produced. Franklin said that while the
production is currently not happening, she will investigate doing the show on her own.
G. New Business
No new business was presented.
H. Adjournment
Mr. Gastiger asked for a motion to adjourn the meeting. Ms. King made the motion, seconded by Mr. Powell.
The motion was approved by unanimous voice vote. The meeting was declared adjourned at 6:32 p.m. The
next meeting is scheduled for May 3, 2022.
Scott Zak, Management Liaison & HRC Liaison
Minutes approved by the Human Relations Commission on June 7, 2022.