Planning & Zoning Commission
Regular MeetingDeKalb, IL · September 20, 2017
Minutes
MINUTES
CITY OF DEKALB
PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION
September 20, 2017
The Planning and Zoning Commission held a Meeting on September 20, 2017 at the City of
DeKalb Municipal Building, 200 S. Fourth St., DeKalb, Illinois. Chair Atherton called the
meeting to order at 6:00 PM.
A. ROLL CALL
Principal Planner, Dan Olson called the roll. Planning and Zoning Commission
members present were David Castro, Katharina Barbe, Matthew Crull, Deborah Nier
and Jerry Wright and Chair Christina Atherton. Member Vicki Buckley was absent.
City staff present included Principal Planner, Dan Olson.
B. APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA
Chair Atherton requested a motion to approve the September 20, 2017 agenda as
presented. K. Barbe motioned to approve the agenda, J. Wright seconded the motion,
and the motion was approved by unanimous voice vote.
C. PUBLIC PARTICIPATION (Open Floor to Anyone Wishing to Speak on Record)
None
D. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
K. Barbe motioned to approve the August 9, 2017 Planning and Zoning Commission
minutes as presented, D. Nier seconded the motion, and the motion was approved by
unanimous voice vote of the members present.
E. OLD BUSINESS
1. Continued Public Hearing on a petition by Central States Tower II, LLC,
represented by Richard Connor Riley, for approval of a Special Use Permit for a
140 foot tall cellular communications antenna to be located at the southeast portion
of the property at 1300 South Seventh St.
Principal Planner, Dan Olson noted on August 23rd the Planning and Zoning Commission
(PZC) conducted a public hearing regarding the request and approved a motion to continue
the public hearing to September 20th so that additional documentation could be submitted by
the applicant and a staff report could be prepared. D. Olson mentioned the applicant has
provided some of the required documentation; however, additional information is still
forthcoming. He said the City has received an escrow agreement from the applicant and a
third party is reviewing the documents and plans. He stated staff is recommending the PZC
continue the public hearing to their next meeting on Wednesday, October 4th. D. Olson noted
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property owners within 250 feet of the site were sent a letter regarding the continuation and
also contacted people who spoke at the last hearing but did not live within 250 feet of the
property.
M. Crull made a motion for the Planning and Zoning Commission to continue the public
hearing to Wednesday, October 4, 2017 at 6:00 pm in the City Council Chambers in the
DeKalb Municipal Building. K. Barbe seconded the motion.
A roll call vote was called. K. Barbe – yes, D. Castro – yes, M. Crull – yes, D. Nier – yes, J.
Wright – yes, and Chair C. Atherton – no. V. Buckley was absent. The motion passed 5-1-1.
F. NEW BUSINESS
1. Discussion on proposed text amendments to the Unified Development Ordinance.
D. Olson noted staff wanted to bring forward to the PZC some miscellaneous text
amendments to the Unified Development Ordinance (UDO) for further discussion. He
summarized the proposed amendments:
Article 3 “Definitions”
Add definitions for several of the accessory structures noted in Article 7 “Supplemental District
Regulations” of the UDO, such as unenclosed and uncovered porches, terraces, patios,
stoops and decks. This will assist in making clear distinctions between these various
structures and lead to better interpretation and enforcement of the UDO. He noted the issue
arose with the recent review of a variance request on Regal Drive, where there some
uncertainty on how the prosed deck the applicant wanted to construct was classified.
Article 5 “Zoning District Regulations”
Add “impound yard” as a special use in the “LI” Light Industrial and “HI” Heavy Industrial
Districts. Impound yard is referenced in the definitions section of the UDO as being classified
as a “junkyard”, however it should be listed as a separate use since there are some
differences in the characteristics of the two uses.
Move “Self-Service Storage Facilities” from a permitted use to a special use in the “LI” Light
Industrial and “HI” Heavy Industrial Districts. Self-service storage facilities have unique
characteristics (e.g. outdoor storage, 24 hour activity, security, and lighting) that may warrant
further review and conditions if located in certain areas of those zoning districts.
Remove the numbering for each permitted and special use in all the zoning districts. This will
remove the need to re-number the list of uses when a new use is added or deleted.
Article 7 “Supplemental District Regulations”
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Amend Article 7.04 “Accessory Uses, Buildings and Structures” by clearly establishing
swimming pools as an accessory structure and include specific regulations not allowing pools
in the front yard and include setbacks from the side and rear lot lines. He added there also
needs to be clarification on the definitions for front, side and rear yards.
Article 8 “Development Impact Fees”
Some of the charts indicating the school and park impact fees need to be coordinated
regarding the order on how they are listed based upon type of unit and bedroom count. There
are no changes to the fees proposed.
Article 13 “Signs”
The City Attorney is suggesting removing Article “13.08 Violation – Penalty” and any
references thereto, including Article 13.05.10. This provision sets out the fines for violations
to the sign regulations. Chapter 1 “General Provisions” of the Municipal Code already covers
the fines for violations to the UDO.
Amend Article 13.06.06 “Temporary Signs” by changing the approval of temporary signs from
the Public Works Department to the Community Development Department.
Article 16 “Administration and Enforcement”
Amend Article 16.01 “Administrative and Enforcement Responsibilities” to clear up the
responsibilities of the Chief Building Official, Community Development Director, Public Work
Director, Planning and Zoning Commission and City Council. For example, variance
applications should be added to the list of items the Community Development Director
provides clerical and technical support to. There are no significant changes proposed, just
amendments to reflect current practice.
The City Attorney is requesting to delete Article 16.04 ‘Enforcement”. This section deals with
the procedures regarding reporting violations and penalties and remedies for violations of the
UDO. Ordinance violation procedures and fines are already covered in Chapter 1 ”General
Provisions” of the Municipal Code so we would therefore recommend this section be deleted.
Articles 4, 5, 6, 7, 9, 10, 11, 13, 14, 15, 16 and 17
Correct the names of the Public Work Department, Public Works Director and Community
Development Department. Change references from the Engineering Department and
Engineering Services Department to the Public Works Department.
D. Olson said no official action or motion is required and asked the PZC to provide comments
per the proposed amendments or others ones not listed. He noted with the PZC’s input and
authorization, staff will prepare and a public hearing notice, which would allow for additional
public comment via the hearing process. Final authority to amend any regulations regarding
the UDO rests with the City Council. He added the plan is to set a public hearing date of
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October 18, 2017 or November 8, 2017 in front of the PZC regarding the proposed text
amendments.
D. Castro asked if the proposed amendments are coming from staff. D. Olson responded yes
they are from staff. D. Castro noted it is a good habit to routinely review the UDO for needed
amendments, however would like to limit the frequency of them so the PZC can take a more
comprehensive review of proposed changes. He suggested proposed amendments be limited
to 2-3 times a year. D. Olson agreed and stated that it is not the intent to do these monthly
and the proposed amendments are a partial result of changes requested by the City Attorney.
D. Nier inquired if the proposed amendments will be further reviewed by the PZC. D. Olson
noted the staff will draft up the specific amended language and set a public hearing in front
PZC and a recommendation to the City Council.
D. Nier wanted clarification on the type and size of swimming pools that would be included in
the proposed amendments. D. Olson responded it would include above-ground and in-ground
pools and the building code defines what is classified as a swimming pool. He added the
definitions for front, side and rear yards need to be clarified also so it’s clear where swimming
pools can be located.
J. Wright asked about a timeline for the proposed amendments. D. Olson responded it’s
anticipated the public hearing will be set for October 18th or November 8th depending on the
extent of the specific amendments that are needed.
2. Discussion on Planning and Zoning Commission Bylaws.
D. Olson explained Article 16.02 of the UDO describes the general powers and duties of the
PZC as well as requiring that bylaws be adopted which set forth the election of officers; duties;
scheduling and conduct of meetings. He added Chapter 21 of the Municipal Code covers the
general powers and duties of the PZC as well.
He added the bylaws were last discussed by the PZC over four meetings in 2015. On October
28, 2015 the PZC adopted the bylaws with two changes and a copy is provided in the PZC
packet. The requirement in Article 3.7 that an affirmative vote of at least four members of the
PZC is required to pass any motion regardless of the number of members present at the
meeting was removed and the language in Article 3.5 requiring the swearing in of persons
giving testimony was also removed in the PZC motion.
D. Olson went through each section of the bylaws as provided to the PZC in their packet and
noted possible changes. He added the City Attorney has reviewed the bylaws and staff is
currently reviewing those comments. He noted they will take the PZC’s comments and bring
them back a revised copy to a future meeting for further discussion.
D. Olson summarized the changes in the bylaws as follows:
Article I Goals and Objectives – “goals and objectives” should be changed to “membership,
terms of office and code of ethics.”
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Article II Officers and Duties – Clarify language indicating the Chair is appointed by the Mayor
with advice and consent of the City Council for a term two years and the Vice-Chair is selected
by the PZC. Change “Secretary” to “Recording Secretary” in several areas. Change the time
for when the minutes have to be prepared and presented to the PZC for approval since they
are not always available at the next meeting. The section on official documents should be
revised to refer back to the Illinois Local Records Act instead of a specific number of years
when the minutes have to be kept. K. Barbe noted the language should be gender neutral.
Article III Meetings – Refer meeting dates and times to as approved by the City Council
instead of specific days of the month or change language since the dates of the PZC meetings
were changed this past summer. There was discussion regarding the bylaw provision that
meetings shall end by 9:00 pm unless there is a vote to extend the meeting time. Chair
Atherton indicated the PZC meetings used to start at 7:00 p.m. and the bylaws indicated the
meetings were to last until 9:00 p.m., unless an extension was approved. When the meetings
were moved to 6:00 p.m. the 9:00 p.m. time limit remained in the bylaws. She added it was
something the PZC probably needs to discuss. D. Olson noted the City Attorney
recommended to remove the time frame, but it is up to the PZC if they want to change it. D.
Castro mentioned it is hard to stop a meeting if the PZC has vested a lot of time and effort
into the discussions. He added at the same time, it is hard to concentrate after a long meeting.
He suggested to keep the 9:00 pm. time frame and only allow a single one hour extension.
There was also discussion that the PZC could call for a special meeting before the next
regular scheduled meeting, if there was a desire to resolve an issue.
D. Olson continued with Article III indicating there is a clarification needed with the City
Attorney regarding what can be voted on by the PZC when there isn’t a quorum. He noted
the order of business for the agenda needs some modifications based upon current practice.
Chair Atherton mentioned she would prefer to have the citizen comments after the approval
of the minutes instead of before as they do now. She added it would allow for a better flow of
the meeting to have public comments after the approval of the minutes. Chair Atherton also
asked if we have “Considerations” and “Future Considerations” in current agendas. D. Olson
noted we have instead used “Discussions Items” in past meeting agendas.
D. Olson went over the motions sections and the voting requirements for PZC members
including when they recuse themselves if there is a conflict of interest. He added the City
Attorney is suggesting language that would clarify what a PZC member is to do when they
recuse themselves from a discussion item. D. Castro asked if the roll call for votes can be
random so the order is unpredictable and there was a consensus to start doing that at the
next meeting.
Article IV Procedures – D. Olson commented the current bylaw requirement that no item be
placed on the agenda unless all information has been submitted not less than 18 days prior
to the hearing has not been followed and is impractical. He added sometimes plans for
projects may not be 100% complete and they are presented to the PZC for review and
conditions are usually added to ensure they are eventually in compliance. D. Olson noted the
requirement that submittal of plans to the Soil Water Conservation District doesn’t need to be
in the bylaws. He concluded the discussion on Article IV by stating a section on items which
do not require a public hearing, such as a subdivision plat, needs to be added to the bylaws.
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Article V Matters To Be Considered – D. Olson stated there is some modifications needed in
this section related to including other plans and plats the PZC reviews and adding sub-area
plans and amendments to the Comprehensive Plan to their list of duties. He also noted the
review of annexations and annexation agreements needs to be clarified with what the PZC
should be reviewing and to make sure if complies with Chapter 21 of the Municipal Code and
the UDO. He finally mentioned variances needed to be added to this section noting those are
reviewed by the PZC only and not the City Council.
D. Olson thanked the PZC for their input and noted revisions will be made per the discussion
and presented back to the PZC at a future meeting for further review.
G. REPORTS / ITEMS FOR NEXT MEETING
D. Olson mentioned the continued public hearing for the special use permit for 1300 South
Seventh St. will be on the October 4th PZC agenda. He also noted at their last meeting the
City Council approved on 1st and 2nd Reading the amendments to Article 19 of the UDO. He
concluded by mentioned the upcoming Annie Glidden North Revitalization Plan community
meeting, which will be on September 27th at Westminster Church on Annie Glidden Road.
H. ADJOURNMENT
M. Crull motioned to adjourn, J. Wright seconded the motion, and the motion was approved
by unanimous voice vote. The meeting adjourned at 6:57 PM.
Respectfully Submitted,
Dan Olson, Principal Planner
Minutes were approved by the Planning and Zoning Commission on October 18, 2017.
Agenda
DeKalb Municipal Building
Council Chambers
200 S. Fourth St., 2nd Floor
DeKalb, IL 60115
AGENDA
Planning and Zoning Commission
September 20, 2017
6:00 PM
A. ROLL CALL
B. APPROVAL OF AGENDA (Additions or Deletions)
C. PUBLIC PARTICIPATION (Open Floor to Anyone Wishing to Speak on Record)
D. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
1. August 9, 2017
E. OLD BUSINESS
1. Continued Public Hearing on a petition by Central States Tower II, LLC,
represented by Richard Connor Riley, for approval of a Special Use Permit for
a 140-foot tall cellular communications antenna to be located at the southeast
portion of the property at 1300 South Seventh Street. The hearing will be
continued to the October 4, 2017, Planning and Zoning Commission
meeting.
F. NEW BUSINESS
1. Discussion on proposed text amendments to the Unified Development
Ordinance.
2. Discussion on Planning and Zoning Commission Bylaws.
G. REPORTS/ITEMS FOR NEXT MEETING
H. ADJOURNMENT
MINUTES
CITY OF DEKALB
PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION
August 9, 2017
The Planning and Zoning Commission held a Meeting on August 9, 2017 at the City of
DeKalb Municipal Building, 200 S. Fourth St., DeKalb, Illinois. Chair Atherton called the
meeting to order at 6:01 PM.
A. ROLL CALL
Natalie Nelson called the roll. Planning and Zoning Commission members present
were Vicki Buckley, David Castro, Matthew Crull, Deborah Nier, Jerry Wright, and
Chair Christina Atherton. Katharina Barbe was absent.
City staff present were Community Development Director Jo Ellen Charlton,
Principal Planner Dan Olson, and Administrative Assistant Natalie Nelson.
B. APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA (Additions/Deletions)
V. Buckley motioned to approve the agenda as presented, M. Crull seconded the
motion, and the motion was approved by unanimous voice vote.
C. PUBLIC PARTICIPATION (Open Floor to Anyone Wishing to Speak on Record)
None.
D. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
1. July 5, 2017 – J. Wright motioned to approve minutes as presented, V. Buckley
seconded the motion, and the motion was approved by unanimous voice vote.
2. July 19, 2017 – M. Crull motioned to approve minutes as presented, J. Wright
seconded the motion, and the motion was approved by unanimous voice vote.
E. OLD BUSINESS
None.
F. NEW BUSINESS
1. Discussion - Public Hearing Procedures
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Chair Atherton began the discussion with a summary of the last Planning and
Zoning Commission meeting, at which an individual member spoke after a public
hearing had been closed. She reported, in the past, public hearings remained open
during commission discussion, allowing public participation and questions to be
asked if new information arose, up until a motion and vote occurred. She stated
she was open to suggestions but recommended returning to the longer public
hearing procedure.
Chair Atherton reviewed the current procedure, which closes the public hearing
before commission discussion occurs. She confirmed commissioners may speak
during the public hearing as well as during the regular discussion period.
Due to procedural requirements, D. Olson recommended against opening a public
hearing, closing it, conducting commission discussion, and then reopening it if a
member of the public requests to speak. He recommended public participation be
allowed until all discussion ends, before the motion and vote, as long as possible.
Chair Atherton explained the public cannot participate in commission discussion
after a motion is made. This part of the procedure remains unchanged.
Planner Olson reported neither the municipal code, nor the bylaws, nor the UDO
state a time in a meeting at which a public hearing should be opened and closed.
D. Castro said keeping the public hearing open through the commission discussion
allows the public opportunity to challenge or reinforce commission members’ views
or propose different views, as new ideas arise during discussion.
Chair Atherton stated last meeting’s situation was the first she had seen in her
experience on the Commission. She said she was not aware of a reason the
Commission began closing the public hearing before the discussion instead of
before the motion and vote. She asked if the Commission was comfortable with
allowing the public question the Commission during the discussion period. She
stated this addition could help prevent the public from criticizing members’ feelings
about the facts
Director Charlton suggested the public hearing period is a time for presenting facts
and clarifying proposals, in which the public can participate, and the discussion
period is a time for commissioners to discuss their feelings about the facts. She
suggested adding a call for questions from the Commission regarding facts of the
proposal and then closing the public hearing and conducting the discussion.
2. Public Hearing on City-initiated text amendments to the following Articles of
Chapter 23 “Unified Development Ordinance” of the Municipal Code: Article 19
“Non-Conforming Situations” to remove the requirement in Article 19.05 (4) that a
legal non-conforming use of a building or structure must be discontinued if a
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change in ownership, use or tenancy occurs; and to Article 19.09 to allow for a
change in tenancy, ownership or management of an existing use of a building or
structure, provided there is no change in the nature or character, extent or intensity
of such non-conforming use of the building or structure.
STAFF REPORT
Planner Olson presented on behalf of the City. He stated the amendments to
miscellaneous sections of the Unified Development Ordinance (UDO), proposed
by City staff, were recommended for approval by the Planning and Zoning
Commission on June 21, 2017. At that time, the Commission added to the
proposed amendments to Article 19 a provision allowing non-conforming uses to
continue with a change of ownership in residential buildings with up to four units.
He reiterated the City has no means of tracking property sales to enforce the
current regulation that requires non-conforming uses to discontinue upon change
of ownership.
He reported the City Council considered and voted to approve the proposed UDO
amendments on July 10, 2017, except the amendments to Article 19, which were
removed prior to City Council consideration.
Mr. Olson stated individuals have voiced concern regarding the current regulations
and previously proposed amendments to Article 19. He referred to business owner
Will Heinisch’s comments at the July 5, 2017 Planning and Zoning Commission
meeting and subsequent e-mail, feedback received from business owners at the
July 21, 2017 Business Coordination meeting, and a letter from property owner
Rick Pryor whose pending property is negatively affected by the change-of-
ownership regulation.
He asked the Commission to approve the proposed amendments to Article 19,
which remove the regulation requiring a non-conforming use to discontinue upon
change of ownership, use and tenancy in all situations.
Chair Atherton read aloud Will Heinisch’s e-mail received on August 9, 2017:
To All,
Please share/read my comments to the Planning and Zoning Committee
meeting tonight.
I support the proposed text amendments for the complete removal of 19.05
(4).
This provides protection of property rights, maintains/increase in values,
provide better opportunity for insurance of property, and is
business/resident friendly. I would also like to thank the city staff for
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discussing at the business coordination group. All were in favor of this
proposal. This protects "grandfathering" of properties.
Discussion at the business coordination group was that – "the right time for
change is taken care of in 19.05 (3)" and or a catastrophic loss.
PUBLIC PARTICIPATION
At 6:23 PM, Chair Atherton opened the public hearing and invited public
comments. Hearing and seeing none, she invited Commission discussion.
COMMISSION DISCUSSION
Commissioner Castro summarized the problems the current regulations cause.
The City must enforce the current regulations without tools for tracking property
sales. The property owners must provide proof a non-conforming use has
continued for a certain time period. He asked for a definition of the term
“grandfathering” and how long it would be allowed to continue if it were allowed.
Planner Olson responded the current regulations do not allow a non-conforming
use to be grandfathered upon change of ownership. He explained if the change-
of-ownership regulation is removed as proposed, a legal non-conforming use
would still have to be discontinued if a structure is destroyed by more than 50% of
its value or vacant longer than six months.
Commissioner Castro suggested that destruction of a structure or a whole
neighborhood should not be the only circumstance under which non-conforming
uses must be discontinued.
Commissioner Nier stated she understood how zoning regulations affect individual
property owners. She stated the City’s current Comprehensive Plan’s vision is to
return homes in certain neighborhoods to single-family. She said removing the
change-of-ownership regulation could be detrimental to long-term planning and
that Plan goal. She voiced concern about setting a precedent by allowing non-
conforming situations to continue. She added the City’s vision for improving
neighborhoods supports the current regulation, requiring non-conforming uses to
discontinue upon change of ownership.
Planner Olson stated the establishment of the RC-1 allows non-conforming uses
to continue because the designated land use is the zoning. However, half of the
calls the City receives concerning non-conforming uses are regarding properties
outside the RC-1 district. He added buyers of a non-conforming two-, three-, or
four-unit residential properties must evict existing renters to conform to the change-
of-ownership requirement in Article 19.
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Director Charlton stated non-conformities have arisen at different times in different
areas of the City. She said the City’s changes to zoning regulations may cause
non-conforming situations: in 1993, the SFR-2 district was established; in 2009 the
RC-1 district was established; other text amendments to the UDO have also been
approved. She added it is not unusual for a non-conforming use or structure to
have existed for 50 or 100 years. She posed the following questions to the
Commission:
1. Is the current regulation the best mechanism for improving neighborhoods,
a goal in the Comprehensive Plan, through discontinuing non-conforming
uses and requiring subdivided homes to return to single-family homes upon
change of ownership?
2. Could a new type of regulation be developed, in which a new owner may
petition to continue a non-conforming use if certain conditions are met,
which would move the property toward conformity?
She added most municipalities do not require discontinuing a non-conforming use
upon change of ownership and acknowledges it will take even longer to see
neighborhoods change without the current regulation. She noted neighborhood
change takes a long time.
Commissioner Castro added the decrease in property value can be significant
when a new owner cannot continue a non-conforming use. He said the seller’s
interests are not the same as the City’s interests.
V. Buckley asked where in the City the most non-conforming uses exist.
Director Charlton responded most non-conforming uses are located in older
neighborhoods. She stated every municipality over 100 years old must decide what
triggers the requirement to discontinue a non-conformity. She said some
municipalities have processes for property owners to request variations to continue
non-conforming uses. She added the standards for approval must be carefully
crafted to allow fair consideration and decisions.
Chair Atherton asked how the City confirms a non-conforming use has been
discontinued upon change of ownership. She said developing any new regulation
should consider the future effect and allow for enforcement.
Planner Olson responded it is difficult to monitor non-conformities and enforce
regulations as the regulation currently stands.
V. Buckley wondered how to ensure potential buyers know certain properties with
non-conforming uses must be discontinued before a sale occurs.
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Chair Atherton asked what the City Council’s comments were when they did not
approve the language in the proposed Article 19 amendments. Planner Olson
clarified the City Council did not discuss the amendments because they were not
presented at the meeting. He said the Business Coordination group did discuss
the amendments and concluded the current regulations are not good for business
and commercial property owners. He referred to Mr. Heinisch’s most recent
comments regarding triggers for requiring non-conforming uses to discontinue.
Director Charlton reported there are people waiting for a decision from the City on
this issue. She stated residential property sellers and buyers contact the City to
confirm the current use can be continued after the sale. She mentioned a property
owner purchased of a four-unit residential property several years ago and recently
decided to sell the property as it has been four units; however, the zoning is two-
family residential, so a new owner would be allowed to have two units, not four.
Commissioner Buckley requested research on non-conforming regulations in
communities similar to DeKalb.
Commissioner Castro thanked property owners who have contacted the City
regarding their properties’ zoning and use. He agreed researching similar
communities is necessary. He suggested creativity and establishing regulations
that take effect over a period of time. He recommended allowing time to continue
discussion of possible solutions.
Director Charlton asked how the Commission feels about the current patchwork of
uses in the older neighborhoods. She noted the Comprehensive Plan was written
during a time when subdivision development and separation of land uses were
priorities. She asked if the current character of the older neighborhoods might be
more desirable now.
Commission Nier stated the condition of older neighborhoods affects the character
of a city. She recommended further discussion among a larger group to before
proposing any change to the City’s vision for those neighborhoods.
Chair Atherton added older neighborhoods vary in character, and some might
benefit more from becoming all single-family while others may not. She said
change might come only when subdivided homes are no longer rentals.
Planner Olson reported the change-of-ownership language was added a few years
ago and originally intended for commercial properties, but the language does not
distinguish between commercial and residential uses. He said residential
properties with more than one unit are most frequently affected by the change-of-
ownership provision.
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Chair Atherton stated rental properties in older neighborhoods are necessary as
many people do not own homes. She asked if other communities’ grandfathering
regulations state when grandfathering may continue or end.
Planner Olson stated the City will research other communities’ non-conforming
regulations.
Commissioner Castro recommended updating the Comprehensive Plan.
Chair Atherton invited final comments or questions from the public.
Tyler Pareese, 624 South First Street, stated a variety of residential uses exist in
his neighborhood. He asked for clarification of the topic of discussion. D. Olson
summarized the discussion.
MOTION
Commissioner Buckley motioned to continue the public hearing to August 23,
2017, and Commissioner Castro seconded the motion.
VOTE
Chair Atherton requested a voice vote. Yea: V. Buckley, D. Castro, D. Nier, J.
Wright, and Chair Atherton. Nay: M. Crull. The motion passed (5-1-1).
G. REPORTS / ITEMS FOR NEXT MEETING
Planner Olson reported the next regular meeting is August 23rd, which will include
continued discussion of Article 19 amendments and a public hearing for a Special
Use Permit for a cell tower at 1300 South Seventh Street.
I. ADJOURNMENT
Commissioner Crull motioned to adjourn, Commissioner Wright seconded the
motion, and the motion was approved by unanimous voice vote. The meeting
adjourned at 7:12 PM.
Respectfully Submitted,
Natalie Nelson, Administrative Assistant
Minutes were approved by the Planning and Zoning Commission on .
City of DeKalb
Planning and Zoning Commission
Staff Report
DATE: September 15, 2017
TO: Planning and Zoning Commission Members
FROM: Jo Ellen Charlton, Community Development Director
Dan Olson, Principal Planner
SUBJECT: Planning and Zoning Commission Agenda –
September 20, 2017
OLD BUSINESS:
Continued Public Hearing on a petition by Central States Tower II, LLC, represented
by Richard Connor Riley, for approval of a Special Use Permit for a 140-foot tall cellular
communications antenna to be located at the southeast portion of the property at 1300
South Seventh Street.
On August 23rd the Planning and Zoning Commission (PZC) conducted a public hearing
regarding the request and approved a motion to continue the public hearing to September
20th so that additional documentation could be submitted by the applicant and a staff
report could be prepared. The applicant has provided some of the required
documentation; however, additional information is still forthcoming. We did receive an
escrow agreement from the applicant and a third party is reviewing the documents and
plans. Staff is recommending the PZC continue the public hearing to their next meeting
on Wednesday, October 4th.
Recommended Motion: I move the Planning and Zoning Commission continue the
public hearing to Wednesday, October 4, 2017 at 6:00 pm in the City Council Chambers
in the DeKalb Municipal Building.
NEW BUSINESS:
1. Discussion on proposed text amendments to the Unified Development
Ordinance.
The staff wanted to bring forward to the PZC some text amendments to the Unified
Development Ordinance (UDO) for further discussion. The proposed amendments are
summarized below.
Article 3 “Definitions”
Add definitions for several of the accessory structures noted in Article 7 “Supplemental
District Regulations” of the UDO, such as unenclosed and uncovered porches, terraces,
patios, stoops and decks. This will assist in making clear distinctions between these
various structures and lead to better interpretation and enforcement of the UDO.
Article 5 “Zoning District Regulations”
Add “impound yard” as a special use in the “LI” Light Industrial and “HI” Heavy Industrial
Districts. Impound yard is referenced in the definitions section of the UDO as being
classified as a “junkyard”, however it should be listed as a separate use since there are
some differences in the characteristics of the two uses.
Move “Self-Service Storage Facilities” from a permitted use to a special use in the “LI”
Light Industrial and “HI” Heavy Industrial Districts. Self-service storage facilities have
unique characteristics (e.g. outdoor storage, 24 hour activity, security, and lighting) that
may warrant further review and conditions if located in certain areas of those zoning
districts.
Remove the numbering for each permitted and special use in all the zoning districts.
This will remove the need to re-number the list of uses when a new use is added or
deleted.
Article 7 “Supplemental District Regulations”
Amend Article 7.04 “Accessory Uses, Buildings and Structures” by clearly establishing
swimming pools as an accessory structure and include specific regulations not allowing
pools in the front yard and include setbacks from the side and rear lot lines.
Article 8 “Development Impact Fees”
Some of the charts indicating the school and park impact fees need to be coordinated
regarding the order on how they are listed based upon type of unit and bedroom count.
There are no changes to the fees proposed.
Article 13 “Signs” –
Remove Article “13.08 Violation – Penalty” and any references thereto, including Article
13.05.10. This provision sets out the fines for violations to the sign regulations. Chapter
1 “General Provisions” of the Municipal Code covers the fines for violations to the UDO.
Amend Article 13.06.06 “Temporary Signs” by changing the approval of temporary signs
from the Public Works Department to the Community Development Department.
Article 16 “Administration and Enforcement”
Amend Article 16.01 “Administrative and Enforcement Responsibilities” to clear up the
responsibilities of the Chief Building Official, Community Development Director, Public
Work Director, Planning and Zoning Commission and City Council. For example,
variance applications should be added to the list of items the Community Development
Director provides clerical and technical support to. There are no significant changes
proposed, just amendments to indicate current practice.
Delete Article 16.04 ‘Enforcement”. This section deals with the procedures regarding
reporting violations and penalties and remedies for violations of the UDO. Ordinance
violation procedures and fines are already covered in Chapter 1 ”General Provisions” of
the Municipal Code so we would therefore recommend this section be deleted.
Articles 4, 5, 6, 7, 9, 10, 11, 13, 14, 15, 16 and 17
Correct the names of the Public Work Department, Public Works Director and
Community Development Department. Change references from the Engineering
Department and Engineering Services Department to the Public Works Department.
Recommendation:
No official action or motion is required. Staff asks the PZC to provide comments per the
proposed amendments. With the PZC’s input and authorization, staff will prepare and a
public hearing notice, which would allow for additional public comment via the hearing
process. Final authority to amend any regulations regarding the UDO rests with the City
Council. We plan to set a public hearing date of October 18, 2017 or November 8, 2017
in front of the PZC regarding the proposed text amendments.
2. Discussion on Planning and Zoning Commission Bylaws.
Article 16.02 of the Unified Development Ordinance (UDO) describes the general
powers and duties of the Commission as well as requiring that bylaws be adopted that
set forth the election of officers; duties; scheduling and conduct of meetings.
The bylaws were last discussed by the PZC over four meetings in 2015. On October 28,
2015 the PZC adopted the attached bylaws with two changes. The requirement in
Article 3.7 that an affirmative vote of at least four members of the Commission is
required to pass any motion regardless of the number of members present at the
meeting was removed and the language in Article 3.5 requiring the swearing in of
persons giving testimony was also removed.
Recommendation:
Review the bylaws and provide feedback. The City Attorney has reviewed the bylaws
and staff is currently reviewing those comments. We will take the Commission’s
comments and bring back a revised copy to a future meeting for further discussion.
BY-LAWS OF THE CITY OF DEKALB
PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION
ARTICLE I
GOALS AND OBJECTIVES
1.1 GOALS AND OBJECTIVES. The goals and objectives of City of DeKalb Planning and Zoning
Commission are set forth in Chapter 21 of the Municipal Code for the City of DeKalb under the
authority of Chapter 65, Article 11, Divisions 12 and 13 of the Illinois Compiled Statutes.
ARTICLE II
OFFICERS AND DUTIES
2.1 OFFICERS AND DUTIES. The Officers shall be a Chairperson appointed by the Mayor and a
Vice-Chairperson to be selected from members of the Planning and Zoning Commission by
Planning and Zoning Commission members.
2.2 SELECTION AND TENURE. The Vice-Chairperson shall be chosen at the first regular meeting
in the month of July. The term of office shall be for two (2) years commencing from the time of
election or until successor is selected and assumes office. The Vice-Chairman shall be eligible for
re- election.
2.3 DUTIES. The Chairperson shall preside at all meetings and supervise the affairs of the Planning
and Zoning Commission with the professional direction and assistance of the Community
Development Department. The Chairperson shall appoint such sub-committees as may be
necessary to carry out the goals and objectives of the Commission. The Chairperson shall also be
an ex-officio member of all committees so appointed.
The Vice-Chairperson shall act in the capacity of the Chairperson in his absence or
disability. In the event the Chairperson should become vacant the Vice-Chairperson shall serve as
Acting Chairperson until a new Chairperson is appointed by the Mayor. The Vice Chairperson
shall return to the position of Vice-Chairperson upon appointment of a new Chairperson, unless
the Vice-Chairperson is appointed as Chairperson, in which case the Commission shall elect a new
Vice-Chairperson at the earliest regular Planning and Zoning Commission meeting.
2.4 SECRETARY. The position of Secretary of the Planning and Zoning Commission shall be
staffed by the Community Development Department Secretary. The Secretary shall have the
responsibility to assure the recording and maintenance of the permanent minutes of the
Commission. Copies of minutes shall be distributed to Commission members as a portion of the
back-up materials prior to the next regularly scheduled meeting of the Planning and Zoning
Commission. Minutes shall also be forwarded to the City Manager, Community Development
Director, the Mayor, all City Council Members, and Department Heads. In addition to minutes,
the Secretary shall perform other such duties as the Commission may determine.
In the absence of the Secretary, the Chairperson shall appoint a Secretary Pro-tem to
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perform Planning and Zoning Commission duties.
2.5 OFFICIAL DOCUMENTS. The official minutes of the Planning and Zoning Commission along
with its recommendations shall be permanent records to be kept in the office of the Community
Development Department. Any verbatim transcript of recording of the Commission's meetings
which are supplemental to the official minutes shall be kept in the office of the Community
Development Director for a period of seven (7) years and then may be disposed of by the
Community Development Director. All petitions (or applications) for action by the Planning and
Zoning Commission or changes in the text of the Zoning Ordinance shall be kept by the City Clerk.
The Community Development Department shall maintain copies of these petitions and
applications together with letters and other file materials for a period of seven (7) years and then
may be disposed of by the Community Development Director according to the procedures of the
Local Records Commission of the State of Illinois.
ARTICLE III
MEETINGS
3.1 REGULAR MEETINGS. Regular Meetings shall be held on the Wednesdays following the
Second and Fourth Mondays of each month at 6:00 P.M. in the City Council Chambers, 200 S.
Fourth Street, DeKalb, Illinois, 60115. In the case of the meeting date falling on a recognized
holiday, the Regular Meeting shall be held on the following Wednesday. Regular Meetings of the
Planning and Zoning Commission shall end by the hour of 9:00 p.m. except when a majority of
the members in attendance vote to extend the ending time of any Regular Meeting at one (1) hour
increments with a motion to extend at each hour.
3.2 SPECIAL MEETINGS. Special Meetings may be called by the Chairman or by any four (4)
members of the Planning and Zoning Commission.
Notice of Special Meetings shall be given by the Secretary to the Members of the
Commission at least forty-eight (48) hours prior to such meeting and shall state the purpose and
time of the meeting. Special Meetings of the Planning and Zoning Commission shall end by the
hour of 9:00 p.m. except when a majority of the members in attendance vote to extend the ending
time of any Special Meeting at one (1) hour increments with a motion to extend at each hour.
3.3 PUBLIC INVITATION. The Planning and Zoning Commission is a public body appointed by
the Mayor and approved by the City Council. All regular and special meetings and hearings shall
be
open to the public and all records, accounts and minutes of meetings shall be a matter of public
record.
3.4 QUORUM. Four (4) members shall constitute a quorum for any regular or special meeting for
the transaction of business and the taking of official action.
Whenever a quorum is not present at a regular or special meeting, those present may
adjourn the meeting to another day or hold the meetings for the purpose of considering such matters
as are on the agenda. No action taken shall be taken at such a meeting.
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3.5 ORDER OF BUSINESS - AGENDA. The Community Development Department shall prepare an
agenda for each meeting and the Order of Business therein shall be as follows:
a. Call to Order
b. Roll Call & Determination of Quorum
c. Approval of Agenda Additions - Deletions
d. Approval of Minutes of Previous Meeting(s)
e. Citizen Comments
f. Swearing In of Persons to Give Testimony
g. Old Business
h. New Business
i. Considerations
j. Future Considerations
k. Reports
l. Adjournment
Agenda items shall be classified as follows:
OLD BUSINESS: Shall be any unfinished business which may be carried over from any previous
Regular or Special Commission Meeting and requires a motion to approve, approve in part, amend
or take other formal action on any matter before the Planning and Zoning Commission.
NEW BUSINESS: Shall be any business which requires the Planning and Zoning Commission to
hold public hearings, or requires action by the Planning and Zoning Commission to entertain a
motion to approve, approve in part, amend or take other formal action on any matter before the
Planning and Zoning Commission.
CONSIDERATIONS: Shall be business which requires the attention of Planning and Zoning
Commission, but are items which do not necessarily require any formal action by the Commission.
Typically, items for consideration require a consensus opinion as to how the Commissioners feel
generally about a specific proposal.
Future considerations: Shall be future business which would require the attention of Planning and
Zoning Commission, but are items which do not necessarily require any formal action by the
Commission. Typically, items for future consideration require a consensus opinion on whether or
not to bring the item back for consideration at a future meeting.
REPORTS: Report items shall be items which Staff feels should be brought to the attention of the
Commission. However, the Commissioners may also report to Staff on items which they feel may
be of general interest to the Staff.
Parliamentary procedure in Planning and Zoning Commission meetings shall be governed by
Roberts Rules of Order except where these rules and regulations otherwise provide.
3.6 MOTIONS. Motions shall be restated by the Chair prior to a vote being taken. The names of
the motion maker as well as the second shall be recorded. Additionally, the Chair shall have the
right to make or second motions.
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3.7 VOTING. All members shall have equal voting rights, and shall vote either yes or no on each
matter to come before them, unless they disqualify themselves because of a conflict of interest
when a matter comes before the Commission and abstain from the discussion and voting.
Members shall disclose all direct personal financial interest in any proposal, project or
development before the Commission and indicate any personal financial benefit that could result
from a decision made by the commission. When concerned that there is a potential appearance of
a conflict of interest or a public perception of conflict of interest the Commissioner should recuse
him/herself from the particular proposal. When in doubt, the Commissioner may seek advice, for
example, from the City Attorney, Planning Staff, other Commission members, or others to
determine if a conflict or public perception of conflict might exist.
Unless otherwise noted, voting shall be by roll call and shall be recorded by “yes” or “no.”
The following actions may be approved by a majority of Commissioners present by voice vote,
unless otherwise requested by a Commissioner: Approval of Agenda Additions – Deletions,
Minutes of Previous Meeting(s), and Adjournment.
The Chair may entertain a motion to approve, approve in part, amend or take other action
on any matter before the Planning and Zoning Commission.
An affirmative vote of at least four (4) members of the Commission shall be required to
pass any motion regardless of the number of members present at the meeting except that a majority
of a quorum (i.e. 3) for those voting shall be sufficient to approve a motion to adjourn. Any vote
which does not receive affirmation by at least four (4) members of the Commission shall be
considered to be denied.
ARTICLE IV
PROCEDURES
4.1 GENERAL PROCEDURES. General procedures to be followed at all Planning and Zoning
Commission Meetings are those described in attached Exhibit "A".
4.2 PUBLIC HEARINGS. A Public Hearing will be held or a matter will be taken up for
consideration, by the Planning and Zoning Commission provided that:
a. No application for a recommendation or other action by the Planning and Zoning Commission
shall be considered until all information required by applicable laws or ordinances has been
submitted. No item shall be placed on the agenda of the Planning and Zoning Commission
unless all information has been submitted not less than eighteen (18) days prior to the hearing.
Where a longer period of time may be required for compliance with law or ordinance the item
shall not be placed on the agenda unless compliance with applicable laws or ordinances can be
obtained.
b. Where action is mandated by law or ordinance to be taken by a certain date and all information
has not been submitted, it shall be the policy of the Planning and Zoning Commission to deny
or recommend denial of an application or petition on grounds that the requirements of
applicable laws or ordinance have not been met.
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c. Following initial consideration of an item of business, at the discretion of the Planning and
Zoning Commission, additional information pertinent to that business may be requested and
considered prior to a decision on it.
d. Any motion to approve, approve in part, amend or take other action on certain petitions
requiring a public hearing (i.e., rezoning or special use permits) shall include, as part of the
motion, a "Findings of Fact" statement prepared and formatted as provided by law.
e. For all recommendations or actions to be taken by the Planning and Zoning Commission after
January 1, 1976, involving lands outside the corporate limits of the City of DeKalb, no action
shall be taken until thirty (30) days after a copy of the petition for such action has been filed
pursuant to 70 ILCS 405/22.02a.
ARTICLE V
MATTERS TO BE CONSIDERED
5.0 MATTERS TO BE CONSIDERED BY THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION. The
Commission shall consider and make recommendation on the following matters. The
Commission's action on these matters is advisory only, with all recommendations to be considered
for formal action by the City Council.
a. Petitions and Staff proposals for changes in the zoning ordinance. Action to be taken on
Petitions and Staff proposals are to be done in accordance with Section IV of these By-Laws.
b. Petitions on rezoning and special use permits. Action to be taken on Petitions on Rezoning
and Special Use Permits are to be done in accordance with Section IV of these By-Laws.
c. Approval of preliminary and final subdivision plats.
d Recommend land suitable for annexation and to recommend zoning classification of such land
upon annexation.
e. Approval of all plans prior to publication and general circulation including but not limited to
the Comprehensive Plan for the City.
f. Recommendations to the City Council on street and alley vacations in accordance with Section
IV of these By-Laws.
g. Other such matters which may be advisable or essential to receive Planning and Zoning
Commission consideration.
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ARTICLE VI
AMENDMENTS
6.0 AMENDMENTS. These rules and regulations of organization and procedures may be amended
at any regular or special meeting at which a majority of the Planning and Zoning Commission are
present and consent thereto. These rules shall be reviewed and re-adopted annually, with or
without amendment at the last regular meeting in July.
Passed as amended by the Planning and Zoning Commission of the City of DeKalb at its Regular
Meeting held on the 26th day of August , 2015.
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Christina Atherton, Chairman
City of DeKalb Planning and Zoning Commission
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will continue on to the next business. He said if a fence is required at this time, the requirement would
continue on into the future.
D. Castro indicated he has no problem with there being a patio for Chipotle but wanted to be clear
that any decision will have implications reaching into the future. He wondered if there’s something
that would keep a business from serving alcohol on the patio in the future. D. Hiland said he isn’t
sure how the liquor code reads and would have to look into it.
M. Welsh asked if alcohol is presently allowed on the patio at Chipotle on West Lincoln Hwy. Mr.
Woodin said he doesn’t think it’s allowed. M. Welsh asked the applicant if would be willing to allow
the fencing to be a component of the patio. Mr. Woodin said Chipotle often has fences for various
reasons and yes, that would be acceptable. D. Hiland noted that if the PZC recommends amending
the zoning it would allow for having a patio but would not compel the occupant to have one.
D. Hiland read from the municipal code regarding outside seating areas and offered his opinion, if the
intent is to eventually have liquor in the outside area, it would be encouraged to require the fence.
The code currently reads that if you’re going to have alcohol outside you have to have fencing. M.
Welsh spoke to having a contingency in the instance that another store would occupy the space that
Verizon is presently occupying and a new storefront would be needed.
M. Welsh asked what the dimensions are outside the patio area. He noted that people park right
besides the building so he wants to know how wide the area will be for passage. Mr. Woodin replied
it looks to be 2 to 3 feet wide. M. Welsh suggested allowing a 5’ walkway. Commission members
discussed how wide the walkway would need to be to allow plenty of room for passage.
Chair Atherton wondered about the placement of the doors noting there are two doors on the drawings.
Mr. Woodin said he thinks one of the doors is an interior door.
D. Castro suggested moving toward rezoning so there is allowance for a fence and at least a 4’
walkway.
Chair Atherton closed the public hearing.
Staff Comments
D. Hiland said it seems that there are two options. Ask the petitioner to return with a revised site plan
or proceed as described with the recommendations of a fence noting this will not impede the opening
of the store.
D. Nier motioned to continue the discussion until the August 26th meeting. M. Welsh seconded the
motion. Chair Atherton clarified that the petitioner should come back with a revised drawing
indicating fence placement. D. Hiland suggested including a drawing of the interior portion of the
restaurant in order to understand the relationship between the outdoor patio and indoor dining areas.
The motioned was passed by voice vote.
CONSIDERATIONS
Review of Planning and Zoning Commission policies and standing rules.
D. Hiland noted the intention was to review the Planning and Zoning Commission policies every year
but that hasn’t actually happened since 2011. He expressed that it’s time to get back to it.
Chair Atherton made three points for change which are:
• Change Plan Commission to read Planning and Zoning Commission.
• Change the start time from 7:00 to 6:00 p.m.
• Change ending time from 10:00 – 9:00 p.m.
M. Welsh concurs on the 9:00 ending time and suggests voting for one hour extensions. Also change
article 3.2 to 9:00 as well.
M. Welsh asked about the code that speaks to term length. D. Hiland said it’s in chapter 21 of the
Municipal Code. M. Welsh said there has been difficulty figuring out the history of each position,
particularly problematic when someone had taken over a partial term which leads to confusion on
what the term length should be.
D. Hiland noted that the Bylaws have been amended to include Citizen Comment to each agenda.
D. Castro asked for clarification on the wording regarding the need for a majority vote as opposed to
the requirement of four members to approve a motion noting that a motion to adjourn is only required
to have a simple majority.
M. Welsh wondered about moving to swearing in people who will give the oath and adding “swearing
in” to the agenda.
D. Hiland said he will gather all comments and will bring them back before the Commission so that
it can be voted on at the next meeting.
REPORTS/ITEMS FOR NEXT MEETING
There will be a meeting on August 26th
• Chipotle will be revisited.
• Verizon Wireless is applying to co-locate on the AT& T tower on South Seventh St.
ADJOURNMENT
A motion was made by M. Crull to adjourn the meeting. The motion was seconded by
M. Welsh and approved by voice vote. The meeting adjourned at 7:20 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
Brenda Hart, Recorder
Minutes were approved by the Planning and Zoning Commission on September 30, 2015
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Jerry Wright seconded the motion.
Chair Atherton repeated the motion with the changes noted in items 2 and 5.
The motion passed unanimously by voice vote.
3. Review and Adoption of Planning and Zoning Commission By-Laws and standing rules.
These items were discussed two weeks ago.
Mr. Hiland discussed the current by-laws and the changes recommended including meeting times, the
term “Plan Commission” changed to “Planning and Zoning Commission”, and the quorum of four
members regardless of the number of members present.
Mr. Castro questioned the language of Article III, 3.4, Quorum.
The Commission discussed the necessity of the quorum being four as opposed to a majority of
members present.
Mr. Hiland said he would confirm this and get back to the Commission.
Mr. Hiland discussed 3.5 Order of Business – Agenda, and the definitions of Old Business, New
Business, Considerations, and Reports as well as the addition of 3.5, f. Swearing In of Persons to
Give Testimony.
The Swearing in of Persons to Give Testimony was discussed including who swears the persons in
(the Chair), is it individually or a group swearing in (a group), and how this would make people think
before speaking. It has not been practiced in DeKalb in the past but does not change the way the
Commission operates. It is due process.
David Castro asked if the Planning and Zoning Commission had any authority to hold someone in
contempt of court.
Mr. Hiland said he did not know.
Roger Ruehling said that, in the past, Chair Don Merwin required everyone that testified at the Zoning
Board of Appeals to be sworn in.
It was further clarified that anyone wishing to speak at any Public Hearing (except the Planning and
Zoning Commission) would be required to be sworn in.
Mr. Castro again asked about holding someone in contempt of court and what is the penalty if
someone does not speak the truth.
Derek Hiland said he will find out and get back to the Commission.
It was agreed the changes and questions presented, including the questions regarding quorum, will
come back to them at a future meeting with further information.
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MINUTES
CITY OF DEKALB
PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION
REGULAR MEETING
October 28, 2015
The City of DeKalb Planning & Zoning Commission held a regular meeting on October 28, 2015
in the City Council Chambers of the DeKalb Municipal Building, 200 South Fourth Street, DeKalb,
Illinois.
CALL TO ORDER
Chair Atherton called the meeting to order at 6:00 p.m.
A. ROLL CALL
Planning & Zoning Commission members present: David Castro, Matthew Crull, Adam Katz, Roger
Ruehling, and Chair Christina Atherton. Members absent at roll call were: Deborah Nier and Jerry
Wright.
Also present: Derek Hiland, Principal Planner, Dean Frieders, City Attorney, and Linda Jacobson,
Administrative Assistant.
B. APPROVAL OF AGENDA
A motion was made by M. Crull to approve the October 28, 2015 agenda. The motion was seconded
by R. Ruehling and approved by voice vote.
C. PUBLIC PARTICIPATION
None
D. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
A motion was made by D. Castro to approve the September 30, 2015 minutes. The motion was
seconded by M. Crull and approved by voice vote.
E. OLD BUSINESS
1. Continued Review and Adoption of Planning and Zoning Commission By-Laws and
standing rules.
Changes to the By-Laws were last considered in August, 2015. D. Hiland, Principal Planner, invited
City Attorney Frieders to field questions regarding issues of witness testimony and voting of the
Planning and Zoning Commission.
D. Frieders advised that with regard to the presentation of witnesses, different communities have
different regulations. Under Illinois Municipal Code, a chair has the authority to administer an oath
and swear in, if necessary, but this is not required under Illinois case law. Courts have upheld
planning commission hearings even with the absence of oaths.
Some plan commissions do have an ordinance process; they can require the attendance of, or
subpoena witnesses; however, a planning commission does not have independent law enforcement
authority and its subpoena would have to go through a judicial process, rather than through the Police
Department, and that could provide challenging. There is no case law indicating that the City
Planning and Zoning Commission would have an obligation to subpoena a witness. The presenter is
responsible for whatever testimony and evidence is needed to support the findings they are asking the
Planning Commission to engage in.
With regard for authority of a commission for contempt of a witness that is not cooperative, the
planning commission weighs testimony based on credibility or from that of a witness who is more
open in answering the questions of the commission. They give or don’t give credit to a testimony.
Occasionally a commission engages in a quasi-judicial role when determining how facts/law apply to
a given recommendation/decision. In this role there is an obligation to permit cross examination. If
a commission doesn’t allow a cross examination, the courts deem that a violation. The Planning &
Zoning Commission has been careful to permit cross examination where relevant. If a party refuses
cross examination after testimony, the commission can give less credence to the testimony offered
and reflecting that in the record.
Discussion was opened by C. Atherton regarding swearing in of persons to give testimony. D.
Frieders advised that once approved in the By-Laws, the swearing in of persons giving testimony
should be done consistently at meetings in the format of a public hearing and testimony should be
offered under oath. A mass swearing at the onset, making it clear to the public that testimony offered
is under oath, with the posting of a sign stating any testimony offered would be considered under
oath, even for those who have missed the mass swearing will be sufficient. This can also be
incorporated into the By-Laws noting that all testimony is presumed to be done truthfully and is under
oath and all participates certify that their testimony is truthful and under oath.
Attorney Frieders that swearing in witnesses is not a requirement for commission proceedings, and
that not doing so does not make any commission actions or witness testimony less valid. The
commission should be consistent in its proceedings.
Attorney Frieders then addressed the question of voting. The By-laws reflect that an affirmative vote
of at least four members is required to pass any motion; a vote of fewer than four members is only
sufficient to adjourn a meeting. A majority of a quorum (three of four of the members) would not be
adequate to pass a recommendation before the commission. In the absence of that provision, the
applicable rule would be that a majority of a quorum are adequate to pass a motion before the Planning
and Zoning Commission. As has been done in the past, it is recommended that the changes to the By-
laws be referred to the City Council for approval to give them the force of the City ordinance. Then
they would become a procedure the City would follow.
Attorney Frieders continued to discuss the City’s unique status as a Home Rule municipality. There
is some case law that indicates that even if the City fails to follow its own internal procedures, as long
as a zoning decision is reasonable, the decision may still be enforceable. If the Commission intends
to adopt a procedure, it is recommended that it follow the procedure as closely as possible. This rule
of four votes is not a new provision, as it has been approved by the City Council and in place for some
time. D. Frieders clarified, that a vote to approve a motion would need to be four of five; if fewer
voted in favor, the motion would be denied.
M. Crull voiced concern that this procedure is special, in that more than a majority voting in favor
would be necessary to pass a motion. He stated the he was not in support the requirement of four
votes to approve. However, he would not object if the other Commission members believed the rule
to be necessary. Chair Atherton mentioned a situation in the past when a quorum was met for a
meeting to be held, as four members were present, and a motion was considered. In this case, three
voted in favor of the motion, but the motion did not pass. The motion had to be brought back at the
next meeting because there was confusion about whether a vote of three was or was not adequate to
pass the motion.
Attorney Frieders stated that if the vote of four is required, that the Commission review its By-laws
periodically, especially when a new member joins, to be sure everyone understands the procedure.
A discussion of the pros and cons related to an approved vote being four in favor followed. It was
found that a real possibility exists of meeting a quorum to hold a meeting but not having enough votes
in favor to pass a motion that is brought to the Commission.
A discussion of the requirement for swearing-in witnesses took place. D. Castro stated that he did not
believe that requirement should be in the By-laws, as there is no way to enforce it and it would be
just symbolic. A. Katz voiced agreement with D. Castro. M. Crull pointed out that the swearing-in of
citizens may not be beneficial, as citizen comments are often opinions, not necessarily truths. R.
Ruehling stated that he was in favor of the swearing-in requirement as it might keep citizens from
stretching the truth. Chair Atherton voiced concern that requiring swearing-in citizens may deter them
away from speaking at public hearings and giving valuable insight.
D. Castro thanked Attorney Frieders for his clarification of the language in the By-laws related to the
number of votes necessary for approving a motion and for swearing-in of witnesses.
D. Castro motioned to postpone the vote on the new language of the By-laws until the next meeting
of the Planning and Zoning Commission. This motion failed.
A discussion continued in which M. Crull voiced support for striking out the language in the By-laws
that regarding the number of required affirmative votes and the swearing-in of citizens. Chair
Atherton also supported the removal of the language for the required four affirmative votes, which
may delay decisions when only four members are present at a meeting. R. Ruehling stated he would
support striking out the language requiring the four affirmative votes as well.
M. Crull motioned to adopt the By-laws as they are with the recommendation to remove the
requirement for an affirmative vote of at least four members and the language requiring the swearing-
in for citizen commentary. This motion was seconded by A. Katz. A roll call vote was taken: D.
Castro abstained; M. Crull, A. Katz, R. Ruehling, and Chair Atherton voted yes. The motion passed.
Attorney Frieders stated that the By-laws as approved by the Commission will go to the City Council
for approval on November 23, 2015. Until then, the Commission is bound by the current, unrevised
By-laws. However, no meetings of the Commission were planned before the meeting of the City
Council, so there should be issue with this time period between.