Firefighters' Pension Board
Regular MeetingEdwardsville, IL · October 27, 2015
Minutes
Edwardsville Firefighters Pension Board
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Regular Pension Board Meeting – October 27, 2015
Attendance
Board members present: James Whiteford, James Anderson, Cole Schrage, Rich Hampton, and Dennis McCracken
Guest: Jeremy Paschall, Craig Larsen
Meeting Called to Order
Whiteford called the meeting to order at 0916.
Approval of Minutes
Anderson made a motion to accept the minutes from the July 28, 2015 regular meeting, the August 24, 2015 special
meeting, and the September 23, 2015 special meeting. Hampton provided the second. Whiteford called for a vote. All
members voted “aye”. The motion passed.
Public Comment
None
Communications and Bills
Paschall presented an invoice from C.J. Schlosser for the fund’s portion of the annual audit to the amount of $1200.
Anderson made a motion to pay the invoice. Hampton provided the second. Whiteford called for a vote. All members
voted “aye”. The motion passed.
Anderson made a motion to reimburse attendees of the 2015 AFFI pension seminar for their expenses; Whiteford
$415.51, Anderson $311.36, Schrage $311.36. Schrage offered the second. Whiteford called for a vote. All members
voted “aye”. The motion passed.
Treasurer’s report
Hampton presented the L&A report. Tax levy process begins tonight with the City's finance committee. The board
presented the tax levy recommendation prior to the deadline of November 1, 2015. Hampton states this is the first step
in the process. Schrage made a motion to approve the Treasurer report. Anderson provided the second. Whiteford
called for a vote. All members voted “aye”. The motion passed.
Old business
Whiteford presented that the board's response to the IDOI has been delivered to the IDOI. We are awaiting further
response.
New Business
Treasurer authority resolution - The IDOI is requiring the treasurer to sign all checks however as L&A writes the checks,
that is logistically impractical. The IDOI is now aware that this requirement is an issue but has no recommendation. A
resolution was drafted to allow the treasurer to designate a signer (Lauterbach & Amen). Whiteford made a motion to
accept the resolution. McCracken provided the second. Whiteford called for a roll call vote. The results are:
Whiteford – aye; Schrage – aye; McCracken – aye; Anderson – aye; Hampton – aye. The motion passed.
The 2016 meeting dates were set as follows: January 26, April 26, July 26, and October 25.
Anderson presented that from the AFFI seminar indications from the IDOI acting director that they are favorable to
consolidating the downstate pension funds. Anderson suggests keeping our awareness that this issue is still in the minds
of the state. Larsen states that the idea of consolidation is to reduce operational costs, however a study showed that
while the smaller funds may benefit the larger funds may be harmed.
Fund Investment Report and Actions
No action recommended
Larsen presented that it is no surprise that the first quarter was down. The fund balance currently is $11,587,652, a
change in value from the previous quarter of -$477,662. However these numbers are from Sept 30, 2015 and the fund
has gained in October about $400,000. The cash holdings are drawing down, as it should between tax collections.
Depending on the market, the fund may need to raise cash in April of 2016.
PNC has had their duration less than the benchmark to protect against a rise in interest rates. The interest rates did not
rise, so PNC is strongly trailing the benchmark. In the long term, 5 years, PNC has done well. They acknowledge that the
duration is pretty low but they are in the processing of increasing their duration to come closer to the benchmark since
The Fed has still not raised rates. The question becomes has PNC waited for so long for rates to rise and been behind so
far, that now are they going to move in the other direction and be wrong again? Any manager who used duration as a
tool has been wrong. The other managers have done well but they were larger funds and could use other tools. Larsen
says this issue was not enough to put PNC on notice, but Larsen is keeping a watch on things.
The importance of diversification is demonstrated in how for the past year most of the funds are down, but real estate
was up. Therefore you never know what area of the market will help rather than hurt. Also Larsen reminded the board
that small and value stocks beat growth and large over time despite occasional inversions. The fund's long time horizon
it well suited to take advantage of this premium. This is the strategy behind the fund's portfolio. The board also needs to
make sure they weather the lows and that the fund is positioned to do this with diversification and keeping a long term
vision. The stock mark has had a recovery but small recovery is still slow keeping our returns depressed.
The Chinese market issue - China devalued its currency so that they can grow their economy through exports because
their products are cheaper. There are signs that China's growth is actually slower than what they are reporting. The Fed
about the same time was talking about when they were going to raise rates. They keep pushing this action back, giving
mixed signals, which causes the market to be week. So The Fed is watching the markets near term and the market is
watching The Fed and this causes uncertainty on both accounts. Larsen says The Fed should be looking long term and
not reacting to monthly market indicators but long term indicators. It is clear that The Fed has just as much trouble
predicting the market future as any one else. The lower employment participation rate and lower inflation are reasons
to lower rates, but The Fed has been saying they are going to raise rates. This causes the volatility in the market. Larsen
predicts The Fed will continue to not raise rates. The market gives the probability of a rate raise 24%. Economists give
the probability of 60%. Larsen trusts the market over economists any day. Assuming they rates the over night lending
rate .25%, and that longer-term rates do not move. This will have minimal impact in bonds. The stock market reaction is
completely unknown. However The Fed has made wrong predictions about inflation for over a year thus diminishing
their credibility adding more volatility.
Adjournment
Schrage made a motion to adjourn. McCracken provided the second. Whiteford called for a vote. All members voted
“aye”. The motion passed.
The meeting ended at 1053.
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Respectfully submitted by Jeremy Paschall
Assistant to the Secretary
Agenda
EDWARDSVILLE FIRE FIGHTERS PENSION
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BOARD MEETING
ANNOUNCEMENT & AGENDA
Tuesday October 27, 2015
09:00 AM
City Hall
118 Hillsboro Ave, Edwardsville
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Call to Order:
Scheduled for 09:00
Approve Minutes:
Regular meeting July 28, 2015
Special meeting August 24, 2015
Special meeting October 2, 2015
Public Comment:
Secretary’s Report:
Communications
Bills
Treasurer’s Report:
Old Business:
Discussion of differences between L&A’s and prior year’s actuarial
assumptions
North Main Street tax pass-through
IDOI Audit update
New Business:
Tax levy
Update signature forms
Treasurer delegation of signature authority resolution
Investment action
Adjourn Meeting:
Posted On: 10/23/2015 Posted By: _____________________________
Date Board Assistant to the Secretary