Historic Preservation Commission
Regular MeetingEdwardsville, IL · August 10, 2016
Minutes
Edwardsville Historic Preservation Commission
August Meeting Agenda
DATE: Wednesday, August 10, 2016
TIME: 7:00 p.m.
PLACE: Council Chambers, City Hall
118 Hillsboro Avenue, Edwardsville, IL 62025
I. CALL TO ORDER ~ Casey called the meeting to order at 7 p.m.
II. ROLL CALL: Present: Debbie Caulk, Joe Hutton, Cara Lane, Tom May, Bob Nickrent, Casey Weeks, Jennifer
Wilkins, Kathryn Biarkis, and Cindy Reinhardt. Also Present: Will Krause, and Tim Harr Absent: Kurt
Ackerman, Cheryl Jett, Andrew Payne, and Walter Williams
III. COA DESIGN REVIEW
a. COA #1
Location: 910 Troy Rd – Leclaire Historic District
Owner: Doug and Sherry Weber
Project: Addition will be built where rear porch currently exists. Need for the addition is for a handicap bath
and ramp for access. All exterior materials to match existing. Porches to be torn down to make room for
addition.
Motion to discuss by Bob, 2nd Debbie
Comments from Applicant: N/A
Discussion: Joe commented that the railings/ballistars were left out for clarity and would like more
information regarding the ramp and its profile. Joe believes that everything else is in order. A committee of 4
should look at the ballistars and the open porch. Tim said that the applicant would be contacted tomorrow
(8/11).
Joe made a motion to accept the COA as described with the exception of the ballistars, 2nd by Tom;
unanimous approval
b. COA #2
Location: 715 N. Main – Local Landmark, Madison County Museum
Applicant: Madison County Historical Society – Pres. Gary Denue
Project: An addendum to our original COA approved July 13, 2016. We need to reduce the height of the
chimney on the 1921 addition to eliminate the steel bars which are anchored into the roof to provide support
for the chimney.
Joe motioned to approve, Bob 2nd
Comments from Applicant: Gary said that the chimney was used for the furnace and hot water heater--it is
not attached to the historic structure.
Discussion: Cindy noted that this structure is not visible from the street.
Jennifer motioned to approve, Tom 2nd; unanimous approval
c. COA #3
Address: 1301 St. Louis Street – St. Louis Street Historic District
Owner: Brandon Yates – applicant, Jason Casaretto
Project: Window replacement – replace wood windows with fibrex
Motion to discuss by Debbie, 2nd by Bob
Comments from Applicant: Casey asked if this was for all the windows, the applicant said that it was only
for a select few (six) windows. Kathryn asked about why the windows were being replaced and Mr. Yates
said that they were all broken. Mr. Yates said that the windows would be designed to replicate the grill
pattern.
Discussion: Joe asked for more information regarding the quality of the windows left before HPC can give
approval. Jennifer commented that the materials that are original are superior to any current product. Debbie
referenced the HPC guidelines, and Tom suggested that the applicant investigate quotes for restoration. The
applicant was advised to send detailed pictures of the existing conditions and that all six windows should be
represented. This will go to the committee of 4.
Motion to approve the COA by Bob and 2nd by Tom; This motion was unanimously denied.
*Motion to move item ‘f’ to item ‘d’
d. 1107 Troy Rd. -- Leclaire District
Owner: Michael Walton -- contractor self
Project: installation of a fence
Comments from Applicant:
Motion to discuss : Bob, 2nd by Joe
Discussion:
Motion to approve Joe, 2nd Cara; motion unanimously approved
e. COA #4
Address: 835 Holyoake – Leclaire Historic District
Owner: Black Dog Prop, LLC – Sheila Mikes
Motion to discuss Bob, 2nd Joe
Project: New vinyl windows throughout house, vinyl siding on house and garage, new AC unit, Replace front
and back doors with metal doors, roof repairs where fire damage is in the back of the house. Note: New
windows have already been installed.
Comments from Applicant: Ms. Mikes commented about the extensive smoke and water damage (it has to
be taken down the the studs) since the house fire in April. The windows were all replaced. The plan is to
encapsulate the potential asbestos siding and put 4x4 siding. They are planning on putting the scalloped
siding where it was before. The vinyl would be a bevel-lap. (The applicants have been directed to the COA
guidelines on the City’s web site so they know what to do for the door)
Discussion: HPC suggested taking the stone away and using vinyl all the way to the ground. HPC needs
pictures of the door choice prior to approval. Joe suggested that they double-check the thickness guideline.
And to bring a sample of that gauge for the committee of 4 along with both doors. Joe also advised regarding
the back door.
Motion by Debbie to approve the COA with the exception that the owner’s meet with a committee of 4 with
siding details and pictures of styles for both doors. Tom 2nd. Unanimous approval.
f. 705 St. Louis Street – St. Louis Street Historic District / Griffin house
Owner: Rich Berry – contractor Joe Hutton
Motion to discuss Bob, 2nd Cara
Project: Replace west porch screens with historic storm sashes, storm doors, and screens in storm doors;
Add storm door with screens to east porch and flanking storm sashes; Replace parapet caps on porch with
same material (cypress); Align new door opening with breaks in upper window.
Comments from Applicant: Joe commented that the east porch did at one time have a screen system that
has since been removed, so the applicant just wants to put things as they were. The west porch has a
“newer” screen system that does not accurately depict what was historically there, and the applicant would
like to go to something historically appropriate. The structure will be all wood of a Cypress species.
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Discussion:
Motion to approve the COA by Bob and a 2nd by Debbie; unanimous approval with Joe abstaining
IV. CITIZENS WISHING TO ADDRESS HPC ~ None at this time
V. APPROVAL OF MINUTES OF HPC MEETING in July ~ Motion to approve as read by Joe with Tom 2nd;
unanimous approval with Jennifer, Cara, and Bob abstaining (who were not present at the July meeting).
VI. FINANCIAL REPORT ~ $1,000 for the plaques that are being prepared by the Art Dept. at SIUE; this bill has not
been formally submitted as work was stalled for nearly a year because of equipment replacement
VII. STATUS OF STAFF APPROVALS ~ Motion to discuss by Tom, 2nd by Bob. All staff approvals were tabled at
the May meeting where Casey stated (at that meeting) that all COAs should come directly to the committee of 4
or the entire committee prior to approval. HPC participants should screen COAs as they come in for completion
and then email all HPC participants including Walter. These emails should be questions for clarification only and
not be any commentary/discussion. Kathryn also suggested that COA applicants be referred to the HPC
guidelines. Joe recommended that the City contact the HPC immediately once a structure within a historic district
has been compromised. HPC is comfortable with the current status quo.
VIII. How to prevent disregard to COA process ~ Casey is interested in having some sort of public education; Will
mentioned that Kurt has been interested in doing a window restoration project workshop; Joe suggested that
there should be more outreach to contractors; Bob suggested the realtors; Will did said that the City is redoing
their web site and that Devin Grey is the IT person who would need to be contacted within this building, he also
suggested that we contact Walter regarding the market studies partnership that the City has with SIUE and
graduate students. Bob suggested that maybe an appropriate step would be to write an article for the Intelligencer
and that maybe that would lead to more positive exposure to HPC and subsequently the COA process. Cindy
also suggested maybe having business cards made to direct people to the web site with the guidelines. Will also
mentioned using the Friends of Leclaire web site for outreach as well (and that if we know of other good restorers,
etc. to tell Will so they can be added to this resource). Joe also suggested that maybe contractors should be
licensed to work within this city as other surrounding areas require. Cindy noted that the Leclaire Park Fest is
about 10 weeks away when considering getting information to a large crowd of people.
IX. CORRESPONDENCE ~ Casey does have some Preservation magazines (Kathryn would like some)
X. COMMITTEE REPORTS
a. Attaboy letters ~ Bob brought and reviewed his “Attaboy” draft. The HPC approved his draft.
b. Historic Districts and Landmarks updates
i. Stephenson House ~ BBQ in September
ii. Brick Streets ~ None at this time
iii. Downtown ~ Joe asked about the August Garden building having a brick structure underneath.
iv. Leclaire ~ There is a new web site; Park Fest will be October 16th; an article will appear in the
next newsletter regarding Col. Pittsman, the man who laid out Leclaire.
v. St. Louis Street ~ None at this time
XI. Amendment to Design guidelines regarding removal of paint and cleaning - ongoing; Kathryn mentioned
that page 10 of the guidelines; needs to be update as well as the online
XII. OLD BUSINESS ~ Kathryn suggested that when people ask for COAs that applicants are given the pages from
the guidelines that pertain to their application. If the guidelines were each in a PDF, then the document could be
parceled and emailed as relevant to each applicant’s needs.
XIII. NEW BUSINESS ~ Will relayed that the City has approved the 2006 Existing Building Code. If people are doing
work, then they must be specific about whether or not they are using the existing code or just the regular
International Building Code.
XIV. ADJOURNMENT: Cara made a motion to adjourn, 2nd by Tom, motion passed unanimously at 8:57 p.m.
XV. NEXT MEETING IS Wednesday, September 14, 2016
Agenda
MEMORANDUM
TO: Edwardsville Historic Preservation Commission
FROM: Casey Weeks, Chairwoman
DATE: August 3, 2016
RE: August HPC Meeting
This is notification for the regularly scheduled meeting of the Edwardsville Historic Preservation Commission for
Wednesday, August 10, 2016 at 7:00 p.m. to be held in the Council Chambers, City Hall. If you will be unable to attend
the regular meeting, please let me know by calling 618-401-1040 or through e-mail at kclweeks@gmail.com. As a
reminder please notify me of your attendance so that it can be excused if you are unable to attend the meeting.
Attachments: August 10, 2016 HPC Agenda
July minutes
118 Hillsboro Avenue P.O. Box 407 Edwardsville, Illinois 62025-0407 Tel 618.692.7500 www.cityofedwardsville.com
Edwardsville Historic Preservation Commission
August Meeting Agenda
DATE: Wednesday, August 10, 2016
TIME: 7:00 p.m.
PLACE: Council Chambers, City Hall
118 Hillsboro Avenue, Edwardsville, IL 62025
I. CALL TO ORDER
II. ROLL CALL
III. COA DESIGN REVIEW
a. COA #1
Location: 910 Troy Rd – Leclaire Historic District
Owner: Doug and Sherry Weber
Project: Addition will be built where rear porch currently exists. Need for the addition is for a
handicap bath and ramp for access. All exterior materials to match existing. Porches to be torn down
to make room for addition.
b. COA #2
Location: 715 N. Main – Local Landmark, Madison County Museum
Applicant: Madison County Historical Society – Pres. Gary Denue
Project: An addendum to our original COA approved July 13, 2016. We need to reduce the height of
the chimney on the 1921 addition to eliminate the steel bars which are anchored into the roof to
provide support for the chimney.
c. COA #3
Address: 1301 St. Louis Street – St. Louis Street Historic District
Owner: Brandon Yates – applicant, Jason Casaretto
Project: Window replacement – replace wood windows with fibrex
d. COA #4
Address: 835 Holyoake – Leclaire Historic District
Owner: Black Dog Prop, LLC – Sheila Mikes
Project: New vinyl windows throughout house, vinyl siding on house and garage, new AC unit,
Replace front and back doors with metal doors, roof repairs where fire damage is in the back of the
house. Note: New windows have already been installed.
e. 705 St. Louis Street – St. Louis Street Historic District / Griffin house
Owner: Rich Berry – contractor Joe Hutton
Project: Replace west porch screens with historic storm sashes, storm doors, and screens in storm
doors; Add storm door with screens to east porch and flanking storm sashes; Replace parapet caps
on porch with same material (cypress); Align new door opening with breaks in upper window.
IV. CITIZENS WISHING TO ADDRESS HPC
V. APPROVAL OF MINUTES OF HPC MEETING in July
VI. FINANCIAL REPORT
VII. STATUS OF STAFF APPROVALS
VIII. How to prevent disregard to COA process
IX. CORRESPONDENCE
X. COMMITTEE REPORTS
a. Attaboy letters
b. Historic Districts and Landmarks updates
i. Stephenson House
ii. Brick Streets
iii. Downtown
iv. Leclaire
v. St. Louis Street
XI. Amendment to Design guidelines regarding removal of paint and cleaning - ongoing
XII. OLD BUSINESS
XIII. NEW BUSINESS
XIV. ADJOURNEMENT: NEXT MEETING IS Wednesday, September 14, 2016
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