Historic Preservation Commission
Regular MeetingEdwardsville, IL · June 12, 2019
Minutes
Edwardsville Historic Preservation Commission
June Meeting Minutes
Date: Wednesday, June 12, 2019
Time: 7pm
Place: Council Chambers, City of Edwardsville City Hall, 118 Hillsboro Avenue, Edwardsville, IL 62025
I. CALL TO ORDER
Commission Chairman Tom May called the meeting to order at 7pm.
II. ROLL CALL
Present: Brandon Adair, John Hackett, Joe Hutton, Chairman Tom May, Bob Nickrent and
Kerry Smith (excused absences: Jeanne Coyle, Ryan Downey, Jennifer Wilkins, staff liaison
Walter Williams) Staff present: City Planner Emily Fultz, Public Works Director Eric Williams
III. CITIZENS WISHING TO ADDRESS HPC (none)
IV. COA DESIGN REVIEW
a. COA #1: 832 Holyoake Rd. (within Leclaire Historic District). Owner: Linda Shaffer
1. Concrete Driveway – replacing gravel driveway with poured concrete driveway (to
extend where it was gravel before and to join city sidewalk).
Bob Nickrent motioned to approve; John Hackett seconded. Roll call vote was
unanimous in favor (6-0) of approving COA #1.
b. COA #2: 202 Franklin Ave. (within Leclaire Historic District). Owner: Zachary Harrison.
1. Porch – Brandon Adair motioned to accept COA, John Hackett seconded. Replacement
of wood-frame front porch with wood-frame front porch, tongue and groove decking
and new wood steps. Termites damaged the existing front porch. Zachary is a landlord
for this property and several other properties, some also in Leclaire.
There’s also a window project (not in this COA). Interior wood-frame windows are not in
good shape. Joe Hutton asked that the HPC windows guidelines be read, so Chairman
Tom May recited the gist of the window policy. Zachary’s grandfather said the 1928
home was remodeled in the 1960s. Eric Williams said landlord didn’t have a permit to
begin the porch project, so that’s why there was a stop work order issued. Joe Hutton
says these window sashes are original to this home. Tom May says Zachary needs to
come back with a separate COA that’s specific to windows. (So HPC is just giving advice
tonight as to the windows rather than voting on windows.) Joe Hutton offered to come
by to eyeball existing windows. Kerry Smith moved to accept COA #2, John Hackett
seconded. Roll call vote: Unanimous (6-0) to COA #2 which is germane to the porch
replacement. Eric Williams will get the stop work order lifted so Zachary can continue.
c. COA #3: 1301 N. Main St. (within Downtown Historic District). Owner: Karen Zimmerman
(purchased 800-square-foot property 5 years ago – in TIF – she reported that nothing
indicated on her deed that this property was in a historic district…she and her husband, co-
property owners, thought it was a 1948 home.)
1. Demolition: Tom May read the HPC guidelines specifying all the photos that must be
presented to city in order to discuss COA #3.
City Planner Emily Fultz read and explained the process by which a certificate of
economic hardship relative to a demolition request must proceed. Emily Fultz also
explained that Karen Zimmerman’s COA needs to be submitted first, but that it needs to
have documentation that has not yet been submitted with the COA application. The
property owner needs to also submit photos and a basic floorplan (not needed to come
from an architect) of the interior of the structure. The 2 separate requests that need to
come from the property owner are:
a. Landmarks COA for complete demo and replacement of existing structure with grass
b. Certificate of economic hardship application
Commercial guidelines (Section 7 and 7.2 – alternatives to demolition). apply and a chapter
out of the city code of ordinances. Chapter 7. Section 54 of code of ordinances provides
requirements – economic hardship may only proceed if the COA for demolition is denied.
John Hackett advised Karen Zimmerman to look at the requirements of a COA and Emily
Fultz said Karen needs: a scaled floorplan and the necessary photos (neither of which Karen
Zimmerman submitted on with the current COA form) and the supplemental info on page
57. As per the city’s ordinance outlining a request for a certification of economic hardship,
John Hackett walked Karen Zimmerman through the requirements/factors for a certificate
of economic hardship. John Hackett recommended that Karen Zimmerman fulfill the COA
requirements first. John Hackett moved to table the COA until property owner can return
and present the complete application with required supplemental details. Bob Nickrent
seconded to table the COA (until further info is provided). Roll call was unanimous, 6-0, in
favor of tabling COA #3.
d. COA #4: 1107 Lake Ave. (within Leclaire Historic District). Owner: Aaron Jarrell, contractor
(speaking on behalf of the homeowners Rebecca & Joe Krajnovich. John Hackett made a
motion to accept COA #4 and Joe Hutton seconded.
Homeowners are requesting permission to demolish existing single-car garage and build
a new 2-car, 24x30-foot garage in the center of the lot, 46 feet behind the house and 20
feet from the alleyway. When extended, the roof slope will be a 6 and 12 (per Joe
Hutton’s recommendation and agreed upon by contractor Jarrell). Homeowners and
contractor request using aluminum soffit exposed rafter tails. Would like to remove
sidewalk on side of home but keep front sidewalk, and create a driveway that will adjoin
with the new garage (pour new concrete), create new sidewalk to steps of a deck, and
replace the smaller, rotting, back yard deck with a new 14x20-foot deck.
Bob Nickrent moved, and Joe Hutton seconded to break COA #4 into separate parts:
a. Demolishing garage (built in 2001) and removal of concrete as outlined – contractor
is willing to add a small swale. Joe Hutton made motion to approve, Bob Nickrent
seconded. Roll call vote: 6-0 yes to accept proposal as submitted.
b. Construct concrete walkway (install meandering side from back porch to front via
side yard) – see HPC design guidelines, page 26 – Joe Hutton made motion to
accept, John Hackett seconded. Roll call vote: 6-0 yes to accept proposal as
submitted.
e. COA #5: 837 Troy Road (within Leclaire Historic District). Owner: Ryan Connor.
Kerry Smith motioned to accept COA #5, Joe Hutton seconded.
Hail damage Repair Request: Single-family residence. Connor family bought home in 2010.
Not sure what year aluminum was installed prior to that. Homeowner is seeking to replace
vinyl with .046 (according to contractor) to meet specs (HPC standard is 0.044 thickness).
Contractor recommends placing thin layer of foam over wood and between vinyl (due to
suspected lead underneath and costly abatement). Owner doesn’t want to remove wood.
Just wants to go over the wood, remove aluminum and replace with vinyl.
Joe Hutton said he’d like to see aluminum to come off to reveal original wood, but the
brackets should not be removed. It’s not possible to obtain the same aluminum that was
originally put on the home. Awesome craftsman-style home. Owner is excited about south-
facing wall, that there may be an original window – possibly stain or leaded glass – that was
covered up. Scope of this project and tonight’s COA, however, is merely the siding.
Homeowner said he is open to any and all suggestions from HPC on additional work he plans
to do in the future. HPC would like to see homeowner restore the original wood siding, but
if that’s not possible (due to lead abatement being cost prohibitive, etc.), homeowner
should restore the brackets. Joe Hutton (is concerned about HPC getting to eyeball the
wood before we say it can be covered up with alternative material and) has offered to come
and look at home and see if lead abatement is possible and affordable. Owner is asking for a
vote on the COA tonight so that he isn’t in limbo and in jeopardy of losing his contractor and
keeping the insurance adjustment process on track. Bob Nickrent reminded the HPC that
homeowner is in a catch 22 because he can’t replace like with like since that aluminum
product/size is no longer available. John Hackett cautioned an individual HPC member
representing the group on this (just Joe’s eyeballs), but Joe Hutton says there is precedent
for this. John Hackett motioned to approve COA, Bob Nickrent seconded. Roll call vote: Vote
was tied 3-3 (YES – Brandon Adair, John Hackett, Kerry Smith) (NO – Joe Hutton, Tom May,
Bob Nickrent) so COA #5 was not approved. Homeowner would still like Joe Hutton to come
over and eyeball home’s existing siding/wood with Joe acting as a private, individual expert
(not as a rep on behalf of HPC). Joe agreed.
V. APPROVAL OF MARCH MINUTES OF HPC – Approval of May 2019 HPC meeting minutes was
tabled because HPC members have not seen them yet.
VI. FINANCIAL REPORT
VII. CORRESPONDENCE
VIII. COMMITTEE REPORTS
a. Atta-boy letters – None.
b. Historic districts and Landmarks updates
1. Stephenson House
2. Brick Streets
3. Downtown
4. Leclaire
5. St. Louis Street
IX. OLD BUSINESS – Route 66 Festival was great (took place weekend of June 7-9) – Trolley tour
was well attended. (Tom hosted 6 tours in 2 hours), and Brandon also volunteered to help at
the Route 66 Festival on behalf of HPC.
Cindy Reinhardt is willing to move some HPC/city historic relics from city hall and public
works to the Madison County Historical Museum.
HPC’s very first local preservation awards were given out by former HPC Chair Jennifer
Wilkins at the Edwardsville City Council meeting on 5/21/19. Three additional commission
members were in attendance (Tom May, Kerry Smith, Brandon Adair).
X. NEW BUSINESS
ADJOURNMENT: Our next regular HPC meeting is July 10, 2019. Meeting adjourned at 9:01pm.
Minutes respectfully recorded and submitted by Kerry Smith
Agenda
MEMORANDUM
TO: Edwardsville Historic Preservation Commission
FROM: Tom May, Chair
DATE: May 3, 2019
RE: June HPC Meeting
This is notification for the regularly scheduled meeting of the Edwardsville Historic Preservation Commission for
Wednesday, June 12, 2019 at 7:00 p.m. to be held in the Council Chambers, City Hall. If you will be unable to attend the
regular meeting, please let me know by calling (618) 407-0678 or through e-mail at tmay.hpc@gmail.com. As a reminder,
please notify me of your attendance so that it can be excused if you are unable to attend the meeting.
Attachments: June HPC Agenda
May Minutes
118 Hillsboro Avenue P.O. Box 407 Edwardsville, Illinois 62025-0407 Tel 618.692.7500 www.cityofedwardsville.com
Edwardsville Historic Preservation Commission
June Meeting Agenda
DATE: June 12, 2019
TIME: 7:00 p.m.
PLACE: Council Chambers, City Hall
118 Hillsboro Avenue, Edwardsville, IL 62025
I. CALL TO ORDER
II. ROLL CALL
III. CITIZENS WISHING TO ADDRESS HPC
IV. CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS
a. COA #1
Location: 832 Holyoake
Owner: Linda Shaffer
Project:
1. Concrete driveway
b. COA #2
Location: 202 Franklin Ave.
Owner: Zachary Harrison
Project:
1. Front Porch renovation
c. COA #3
Location: 1301 N. Main.
Owner: Karen Zimmerman
Project:
1. Demolition of Landmark Structure
d. COA #4
Location: 1107 Lake Ave.
Owner: Joe Krajnovich
Project:
1. Garage
2. Deck
3. Driveway removal
e. COA #5
Location: 837 Troy Rd.
Owner: Ryan Connor
Project:
1.Siding
V. APPROVAL OF MINUTES OF HPC MEETING IN May
VI. FINANCIAL REPORT
VII. CORRESPONDENCE
VIII. COMMITTEE REPORTS
a. Attaboy letters
b. Historic Districts and Landmarks updates
1.Stephenson House
2.Brick Streets
3.Downtown
4.Leclaire
5.St. Louis Street
IX. OLD BUSINESS
X. NEW BUSINESS
a. HPC calendar
XI. ADJOURNEMENT: NEXT MEETING IS Wednesday, July, 10, 2019
118 Hillsboro Avenue P.O. Box 407 Edwardsville, Illinois 62025-0407 Tel 618.692.7500 www.cityofedwardsville.com