Land Use
Regular MeetingEdwardsville, IL · June 20, 2019
Minutes
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LAND USE COMMITTEE
EDWARDSVILLE PLAN COMMISSION
June 20, 2019
7:00 PM
PRESENT ABSENT
John Mullane, PC Chairman Beth Schlueter, Chairman
John McDole, Vice Chair David Gerber
Veronica Armouti
Mike Boline
Mark Rabe
Kevin West
Emily Fultz, Staff
Cheryl Porter, Staff
Lisa Schneck, Staff
Justin Venvertloh, Thouvenot, Wade and Moerchen, Inc.
At the regular meeting of the Plan Commission's Land Use Committee, the following items were
discussed:
A. Case 2019-18: Edwardsville Town Center
Final Plat & Vacation Plat
Developer: Edwardsville Town Center LLC
Engineer: Thouvenot, Wade and Moerchen, Inc.
Emily Fultz gave staff’s report. The vacation of Mutual Court plat will need to be approved prior to
the approval of the Final Plat of Edwardsville Town Center. The street vacation will be a separate
case at the July Plan Commission meeting.
The whole development is just over 26 acres. The Final Plat includes the PUD portion of the
development and also the outlots. You will see Lot 1 with several addresses and then Lots 4 through
9. The PUD Site Plan includes Lots 1, 2 and 3. Everything has been met with the Preliminary Plat.
A Stormwater Maintenance Agreement is still needed. There are a few items which still need
addressed as outlined in the staff report.
A. The title of the PUD Site Plan should be revised from “Planned Unit Development Plat for Lots 1,
2 and 3 of Edwardsville Town Center” to “Site Plan Edwardsville Town Center Planned Unit
Development”.
Justin Venvertloh stated it has to say “Final Plat” to be recorded. He asked staff to look at
previous developments they have done. They say “Final Plat” and “Final Development Plan”.
Staff will look at the previous developments for labeling purposes.
B. Lot 1 of sheets 2 and 3 should reference the recorded “Development Plan Edwardsville Town
Center Planned Unit Development” and “Site Plan Edwardsville Town Center Planned Unit
Development”.
Cheryl Porter explained the subdivision has to get recorded and then the development plan. It
was approved by resolution back in July of 2018. It should refer to the future PUD Final Plat.
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She said it should also reference what was approved by the City. Justin Venvertloh asked how to
reference something that hasn’t been recorded. Cheryl Porter asked if the note would even be
necessary then. Justin Venvertloh replied he didn’t think so because it would reference
something that is not there yet. The developers could decide to not go forward with that part of
the project and the final plat would reference something that never happened. He explained they
originally created lots 1 through 9 of the Edwardsville Town Center subdivision. Once approved,
they would then go forward with the PUD for lots 1, 2 and 3 of the Edwardsville Town Center
subdivision. Cheryl Porter explained the subdivision process when with Hawthorne Hills
subdivision was approved which included a PUD. The PUD Development Plan cannot be
recorded until the subdivision has been recorded.
Justin Venvertloh suggested to either subdivide the entire 26 acres into lots or re-label Lot 1 to
Outlot and re-label the frontage lots accordingly. Cheryl Porter agreed. She stated that when
they took the PUD plan to be recorded, they were told they could not record it because Lot 1 does
not exist.
It was determined that the City Attorney would need to weigh in on this decision and determine
which way is the best way to handle it.
C. The location of the adjacent University Park Drive to be labeled on the Plat.
Justin Venvertloh stated there is really no right-of-way there. They can label the street but there
is no right-of-way since it is located on University property.
D. The Book and Page of “SIU Board of Trustees” parcel to be included.
Justin Venvertloh stated they tried to look up a Book and Page but since the property was never
subdivided, there is no Book and Page for that area.
John McDole asked if there was a motion to approve the Final Plat for Edwardsville Town Center
based on the recommendation discussed and consulting with the City Attorney on the other issue that
was discussed and any resolution that comes out of those conversations.
MOTION: Rabe. Move to recommend approval by the Plan Commission on the basis that the
question is resolved by the City Attorney regarding the proper nomenclature and the order of
submission of the plans.
John Mullane pointed out that the Final Plat can not be approved until the street vacation is approved
first.
MOTION: Rabe. Move to recommend to Plan Commission to approve the vacation of Mutual Court
subdivision. SECONDED: Boline. VOICE ROLL CALL: 4 Ayes, 0 Nays, 0 Abstain.
MOTION: Rabe. Move that Land Use Committee recommends approval by the Plan Commission of
the Final Plat contingent upon the vacation of the previous plat and clarification by the City Attorney
on proper nomenclature and order of processing these documents. SECONDED: West. VOICE
ROLL CALL: 4 Ayes, 0 Nays, 0 Abstain.
B. Case 2019-19 Edwardsville Town Center
PUD – Site Plan
Developer: Edwardsville Town Center LLC
Engineer: Thouvenot, Wade and Moerchen, Inc.
Emily Fultz gave staff’s report on this plan. This is a PUD development with 3 proposed lots which
contains 17.5 acres. Staff will work with legal counsel and get the labeling correct. There is no need
for further discussion on this since it was discussed during the other case. There is one other item
which was not discussed but in staff’s report. They would like to see the garage footprints on the
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plans. They would also like to see the building footprint for Kloss Furniture (6132 Shoger Drive)
even though the building is already onsite.
Justin Venvertloh stated that building is the only building on that lot which shows building setbacks.
If added it would be drawn over the building setback information. Emily Futlz agreed. She is fine
with just adding the garage footprints to the plans.
Cheryl Porter added another comment not discussed was to include the same reference to
Edwardsville Town Center Final Plat on Lots4-9 on sheet 2 as was added to sheet 3. Justin
Venvertloh agreed.
MOTION: Rabe. Motion to recommend approval to Plan Commission for Case # 2019-19 based on
fulfilling the recommendations just spoken about and any other results coming from discussions with
the City Attorney on nomenclature. SECONDED: West.
VOICE ROLL CALL: 4 Ayes, 0 Nays, 0 Abstain.
Motion to adjourn the meeting by Mike Boline. Seconded by Kevin West. All Ayes. Meeting
adjourned.
REMINDER:
PLAN COMMISSION MEETING: Monday, July 15, 2019 at 7:00 p.m. at City Hall, City Council
Chambers, 118 Hillsboro Avenue.
Agenda
LAND USE COMMITTEE
AGENDA
MEETING DATE: Thursday, June 20, 2019
TIME: 7:00 P.M.
PLACE: City Hall Committee Meeting Room
LAND USE CASES:
A. Case 2019-18: Edwardsville Town Center
Final Plat & Vacation Plat
Developer: Edwardsville Town Center LLC
Engineer: Thouvenot, Wade and Moerchen, Inc.
B. Case 2019-19 Edwardsville Town Center
PUD – Site Plan
Developer: Edwardsville Town Center LLC
Engineer: Thouvenot, Wade and Moerchen, Inc.
INFORMATION:
PLAN COMMISSION MEETING: Monday, July 15, 2019 at 7:00 p.m. in City Hall
Council Chambers, 118 Hillsboro Avenue.