Committee of the Whole
Regular MeetingGeneva, IL · July 13, 2015
Minutes
COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE MINUTES
JULY 13, 2015
PRESENT: Mayor Burns, Ald. Bruno, Burghart, Cummings, Kilburg, Maladra, Marks, Radecki,
Simonian, Seno, Singer
Staff Present: McKittrick, Dawkins, Babica, DeGroot, Lambert, Dahl, Pierce
CALL TO ORDER
Mayor Burns called the meeting to order at 7 pm noting all aldermen were present.
SPECIAL ITEMS
Recognition of Special Olympian Michelle Thompson
Mayor Burns asked Ms. Thompson to lead those present in the Pledge of Allegiance. He then
explained that Ms. Thompson will be participating in the Los Angeles Summer Special Olympics
in rhythmic gymnastics. Mayor Burns presented a certificate of recognition as well as several
City of Geneva items to Ms. Thompson. She received a standing ovation.
Cultural Arts Commission Presentation on 2015 RiverPark Concert Series & Shakespeare in the
Park.
Cultural Arts Commissioner Vic Portincaso provided information on the RiverPark concert series
and Shakespeare in the Park. He encouraged everyone to attend.
APPROVE COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE MINUTES FROM JUNE 15, 2015 AND JUNE 22,
2015
Moved by Ald. Bruno, second by Ald. Seno V/V: 10-0 Motion carried.
ITEMS OF BUSINESS
a. Recommend Resolution No. 2015-82 Authorizing Execution of Fiscal Year 2014- 2015
Budget Amendments As Presented
Moved by Ald. Marks, second by Ald. Simonian V/V: 10-0 Motion carried.
b. Recommend Ordinance No. 2015-19 Amending Title 9, Ch. 1, Section 9-1-2 (Billing
Procedures) of the Geneva City Code
Moved by Ald. Marks, second by Ald. Bruno V/V: 10-0 Motion carried.
c. Recommend Resolution No. 2015-83 Approving the Furnishing of Municipal Water Serve to a
Residential Property Outside of the Corporate Limits of the City Without Requiring Annexation at
1927 Western Avenue
Moved by Ald. Cummings, second by Ald. Maladra V/V: 10-0 Motion carried.
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d. Recommend Resolution No. 2015-84 Authorizing Acceptance of Material Bid for the 2015
Underground Cable Replacement Project
Moved by Ald. Marks, second by Ald. Kilburg V/V: 10-0 Motion carried.
e. Reject Underground Cable Replacement Labor Bids and Authorize Staff to Initiate Re-bidding
of Same
Moved by Ald. Seno, second by Ald. Simonian V/V: 10-0 Motion carried.
f. Recommend Resolution No. 2015-85 Authorizing IDOT Right-of-Way Maintenance Agreement
with the State of Illinois
Moved by Ald. Marks, second by Ald. Simonian V/V: 10-0 Motion carried.
g. Recommend Ordinance No. 2015-20 Granting an Amendment to the Pepper Valley Planned
Unit Development to Allow Sit-Down/Drive-Through Restaurants as a Special Use and a Special
Use to Allow a Dunkin Donuts Sit-Down/Drive-Through Restaurant on the Property Located at
2401 Kaneville Road, Unite 12
Moved by Ald. Marks, second by Ald. Maladra.
Dir. DeGroot provided background on the property, noting that the PUD includes a list of
permitted and special uses, but not a sit-down or drive-through restaurant. He further noted
that the applicant is proposing to upgrade the landscaping and new signage. Neighbors have
expressed concern over traffic, hours and noise, resulting in the Plan Commission placing
restrictions that address these issues and others.
Ald. Singer expressed concerns, saying he felt that, as a courtesy, the applicant should have
met with the fourth ward aldermen. He was concerned with the hours, noise at the order box,
illuminated signage, and additional traffic problems.
Ald. Radecki also stated concerns. Citing the original PUD, he said that the site is not suitable
for the proposed use. He concurred with Ald. Singer’s comments, saying the proposed drive-
through route is intended to be used as a service alley. Dir. DeGroot addressed the aldermen’s
concerns.
Elaine Knight, 322 Cambridge Dr., said she lives next to the location and fears that the
illuminated sign would shine into her bedroom. She said that traffic is already heavy and fast
on Cambridge and is a safety issue.
Ben Carter, 2336 Danbury Ct., was concerned about the increased traffic, especially cars going
from Cambridge onto Kaneville Rd. and the possible backup from the drive-through onto
Cambridge during peak hours. He called for a more sophisticated traffic study than that taken.
He also expressed concern with the potentially loud music from cars waiting in the drive-
through lane.
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Cynthia Albright, 219 S. Cambridge Dr., also was concerned about the amount of traffic during
the facility’s peak hours. She questioned using the rear drive area as the drive-through lane.
She did compliment the owner for the improved landscaping.
Julius Spognardi, 2332 Danbury Ct., felt that the traffic would create a safety issue, especially
with the proximity of schools in the area.
Representing the applicants were Karim Khoja and Tom Theim, the franchisees, both from
Northfield, Ill., and Steven Kolber, architect from Evanston, Ill. Mr. Khoja said that he has
about 70 Dunkin Donuts franchises in the Chicago area and the typical time at one of his
franchises for a drive-through customer from placing the order to receiving it is 140 seconds.
He said that traffic concerns already exist and should not be blamed on his Dunkin Donuts
store. He asked for a chance to meet with city officials to resolve the issues and if the issues
cannot be resolved he will step away from the project.
Several Council members expressed their concerns and asked questions concerning a Dunkin
Donuts on that site, again focusing on traffic, hours, signage and lighting, the drive-through
configuration and the overall suitability of the site for a Dunkin Donuts operation as proposed.
Joe Jankovsky, owner of the property on which the Dunkin Donuts would be located, addressed
the issues of traffic, lighting and noise regulation, saying he also would work with the City to
address the issues of concern.
Referring to the cars waiting in the drive-through line, Rebecca Carter, 2336 Danbury Ct., said
she has asthma and is affected by car fumes. She also objected to the dumpster location.
Ald. Simonian suggested a more scientific traffic study at the applicant’s expense. Ald. Marks
called for commitment to install the porkchop intersection at Cambridge and Kaneville before
he could vote in favor of this proposal.
On a question from Ald. Cummings, Mr. Khoja said he cannot solve the already-existing traffic
congestion at the location, but would discuss other issues with the City. He added, however,
that he was not willing to invest money in the start-up only to risk being shut down in 90 days.
At the request of Mayor Burns, Ald. Marks and Ald. Maladra, withdrew the original motion and
moved to remand this matter back to city staff and the developer to be considered again at a
later date.
Roll Call: Ayes: 6 Nays: 4 Motion carried
h. Recommend Resolution No. 2015-86 Amending the City’s Comprehensive Plan and
Downtown Station-Area Master Plan to Change the Future Land Use Designation for the
Subject Realty from “Single Family Residential” and “Single Family Attached/Row House” to
“Parking”
Moved by Ald. Simonian, second by Ald. Marks
Elizabeth Fieweger, 502 South St., asked for landscaping on the west side of the proposed
parking lot, saying that when the trees there lose their leaves in the fall, lights and activity at
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the Metra station as well as the new parking lot will be visible from her house and the houses of
others. She suggested planting evergreen trees for screening. Dir. DeGroot answered that the
landscaping on the west side of the parking lot is yet to be determined. Other nearby residents
calling for landscape screening were Ed Verkuilen, 502 South St., and Patricia Cameron, 428
South St. Questions and comments also were heard from Ald. Bruno, Cummings and Kilburg.
V/V: 10-0 Motion carried.
i. Recommend Ordinance No. 2015-21 Rezoning (Zoning Map Amendment) the Subject Realty
from the R1 Low Density Single-Family Residential District and the R3 Medium to High Density
Single-Family Residential District to the B3 Business District
Moved by Ald. Marks, second by Ald. Seno V/V: 10-0 Motion carried.
j. Recommend Ordinance No. 2015-22 Granting a Special Use for a Preliminary/Final Planned
Unit Development – Corner of South Fourth and Crescent Place
Moved by Ald. Singer, second by Ald. Marks V/V: 10-0 Motion carried.
k. Recommend Ordinance No. 2015-23 Proposing Establishment of Special Servicea Area No.
32 and Providing for a Public Hearing and Procedures in Connection Therewith (On Brentwood
Pond Subdivision)
Moved by Ald. Marks, second by Ald. Cummings
Dir. DeGroot explained the process underway up to this point.
V/V: 10-0 Motion carried.
UNFINISHED BUSINESS
a. Consider Draft Ordinance Related to City-Initiated Text Amendments to the Geneva Historic
Preservation Ordinance Regarding Formatting, Procedural, and Regulatory Changes to Title 3,
Chapter 3 and Title 10, Chapter 6 of the Geneva City Code
Mayor Burns stated that tonight’s discussion will focus on the opt in/opt out clause of the
ordinance. He requested that Dir. DeGroot review previous discussion on this subject. Dir.
DeGroot said that the 51 percent opt in/opt out proposal was rejected by the Council in favor of
the zoning requirements per state statute, which require a two-thirds (supermajority) Council
vote to rezone if 20 percent of the property owners object.
Referring to the previous discussion regarding application requirements, Ald. Marks asks if a
definition of “economic interest” had been developed. Dir. DeGroot said that in the proposed
ordinance “economic interest” is defined as the applicant having to be a resident of Geneva, a
property owner in Geneva, a group of residents or an association with resident membership in
Geneva, or it can be initiated by the HPC with consent and authorization of the City Council.
Admin. McKittrick clarified that bringing a historic district proposal to the Council before taking it
to the HPC is considered a courtesy and is not in the code.
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Discussion followed as to whether the 20 percent owner objection should stand or be lowered in
order to require a supermajority approval vote. Ald. Cummings questioned if by using a lower
percentage, might not a large majority of owners favoring a district be overruled by only a small
number of owners.
Mary Goodfellow, 1010 S. Batavia Ave., said that the homeowner should be the first and most
important voice in approving or objecting to an historic application.
Ald. Maladra said that it appears that the Council wants the language in the historic preservation
ordinance to mirror the language of the state in establishing any other zoning district in that a 20
percent objection by property owners would require a two-thirds majority of the Council to
approve.
As such, Ald. Maladra stated his motion to read that the City’s historic preservation ordinance
treat a historic district as any other zoning district and follow state law for the establishment
thereof.
Moved by Ald. Maladra, second by Ald. Bruno.
Ald. Marks asked how the definition of “economic interest” as referred to in the zoning laws
squares with the definition in the historic preservation ordinance if the zoning laws become the
standard used in the historic preservation ordinance. Discussion then followed regarding if
someone who claims an economic interest must own property in the district and, further, must
live on that property.
Several audience members also contributed to the discussion:
Colin Campbell, 18 S. Sixth St., doubted that any “outsider” would propose a historic district in
the city. He favored following the language in the zoning ordinance.
Jeff James, 825 S. Batavia Ave., read from a letter from City Atty. Radovich to Council members
stating that in the 1980 amendments to the National Historic Preservation Act it states that any
owner(s) of private property can have that property excluded from the district through objection.
Margaret Eagan, 402 Campbell St., asked how Mr. James obtained the letter from which he
read. She also asked how the Historic Preservation Commission fits into the process, saying it
sounds as if the HPC is not wanted.
Elizabeth Safanda, 1013 Dunstan Rd., requested a copy of the letter from which Mr. James
read. Mayor Burns said that he would provide her with a copy. Ald. Marks said that he supplied
the letter to Mr. James but did not see any indication that the letter was confidential.
John Laukaitis, 728 Richards St., supported using the zoning requirements as the historical
preservation standard in terms of the 20 percent objection and the definition of economic
interest.
Ald. Simonian supported the use of zoning standards being applied to the historic preservation
ordinance. He suggested allowing Staff to develop a definition for “economic interest.” He also
wished to codify the courtesy Council review mentioned earlier by Admin. McKittrick, who then
suggested having the city attorney review the code in respect to any due process violation. Ald.
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Radecki questioned the need to codify this aspect. Ald. Maladra pointed out that the degree of
economic interest is determined not by the Council but earlier on by Staff or the HPC.
Ald. Burghart questioned why “economic interest” needed to be tightly defined, saying
whomever proposes a historic district will have to work with the residents within that district.
After additional discussion on a definition and application of economic interest, a vote was
taken on the previous motion by Ald. Maladra to treat a historic district as any other zoning
district and follow state law for the establishment thereof.
Roll Call: Ayes: 10 Nays: 0 Motion carried.
NEW BUSINESS
Discussion on Historic Preservation Commission
With suspension of the rules, Mayor Burns asked for discussion regarding any concerns relative
to the Historic Preservation Commission. Ald. Radecki said in his opinion the makeup of the
HPC is not consistent with the ordinance and that it should have a more diverse membership.
He said the perception is that the HPC is made up of only preservationists.
Ald. Simonian said the HPC members themselves have cited a need to work on their perception,
adding that in his opinion they have made it worse. He gave examples to support that opinion.
He said that it is his perception that the HPC displays a no-compromise, “us vs. them” attitude.
Ald. Maladra was troubled by the idea that Staff is undermining the Council when it seeks
outside opinions if Staff feels that clarification or correction is needed. He also felt that
discussion concerning the HPC should address its role and function and should not involve
individuals. He saw the HPC as part of the facilitation process in that it provides the Council
with recommendations. Ald. Singer said he was very upset when a member of the HPC was
recently critical of a Council member.
Elizabeth Safanda, 1013 Dunstan Rd., said she attends most of the HPC meetings and
frequently sees dissent among the members, leading her to believe there already is member
diversity. She complimented the HPC on it efforts.
Ald. Bruno also saw a perception problem with HPC. He felt that it would be beneficial to
broadcast HPC meetings and possibly those of the other boards and commissions. Discussion
followed regarding the perception of the HPC and the appointment process to the various
boards and commissions.
Report on Triad Senior Citizens Picnic
Ald. Singer reported that the Triad organization held its annual senior citizens picnic last
Saturday with an attendance of approximately 115 seniors. He thanked Joe Stanton, who was
in charge of food preparation.
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ADJOURN
On a motion by Ald. Singer, second by Ald. Marks, the meeting was adjourned by unanimous
voice vote at 11:33 pm.
Submitted by Lynn P. Landberg, City Clerk
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