Planning and Zoning Commission
Regular MeetingGeneva, IL · June 13, 2013
Minutes
PLAN COMMISSION MINUTES
City of Geneva
109 James Street - City Council Chambers
Meeting #1131 – June 13, 2013
Chairman Rogers called the Plan Commission meeting to order at 7:00 p.m. Roll call followed:
Present: Commissioners Case, Erickson, Evans, Mead, Stocking, Chairman Rogers
Absent: Commissioners Leidig, Stevenson
Others Present: Community Development Planner Dave DeGroot; and Recording Secretary Celeste
Weilandt
Public Present: Mr. Rolf Jace Murray, Murray Commercial, 700 E. Main Street, St. Charles, IL and
Mr. Ralph Anderson
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Approval of the May 23, 2013 Meeting Minutes
Minutes of the May 23, 2013 meeting were approved on motion by Commissioner Erickson,
seconded by Commissioner Mead. Motion carried by voice vote of 6-0.
Concept Review:
PUD Amendments & Final PUD/Site Plan Review - Amendments to the Parking
Requirements and Setback Requirements set forth in the Randall Center Planned Unit
Development related to the Proposed Redevelopment of the Former La Petite Academy Child
Care Center as Physician Offices. Location: 2423 Fargo Boulevard; Applicant: Rolf Jace
Murray.
Planner DeGroot reported he was working with Ralph Anderson and Mr. Jace Murray
(petitioners) discussing ideas on how to use the La Petite site, with the largest challenge being the
accommodation of parking for any reuse because the former daycare center had a limited parking
demand. Before the petitioner move forward, DeGroot stated the petitioner wanted to get input from
the Plan Commission.
Mr. Jace Murray, Murray Commercial, 700 E. Main Street, St. Charles, IL, on behalf of the
contractor-purchaser, discussed he and his client were basically in their due diligence stage but he
wanted to share his concept plans with the commissions in order to receive input. He reiterated the
parking lot was an issue, the site was in disarray, and the property was bank-owned. Preferably, he
was looking to create a multi-tenant building. Mr. Murray indicated that he had preliminary
discussions with the Fox Valley Physicians (to the west) about cross-access easements in order for
both properties to benefit. Mentioned was that fact that there had been consideration for more
parking and detention on-site, because city staff had indicated to him that the existing detention area
to the south could not handle the capacity.
Mr. DeGroot then reviewed the history of the Randall Center PUD established in 1989 under
the previous City ordinance, explaining that 24 spaces currently existed and, under the PUD
regulation, the petitioner would have to provide a total of 75 spaces for the 7500 sq. foot building,
which staff believed was not consistent with the City’s current parking requirements for Office uses (6
spaces per 1,000 sq. feet), placing the total parking requirement at 45 spaces. The proposed site
plan had 47 parking spaces on-site for the La Petite site and provided an additional 12 spaces along
the west property line, which would be used for the Fox Valley Physicians building.
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Mr. DeGroot explained that to move the request forward, the plan would have to amend the
parking ratio and PUD, amend the site plan, and reduce the side yard setbacks for parking.
Per Chairman Rogers’ question, DeGroot confirmed the Fox Valley Family Physicians parking
spaces would encroach on the petitioner’s property at the western edge of this site. Additionally,
Mr. Murray explained that the purpose of the shared parking on the property line was because both,
Fox Valley Physicians and his client, would need additional parking for both buildings. However,
Commissioner Evans believed the extra 12 spaces may not be needed, wherein Mr. Murray indicated
that the physicians indicated the need for the extra spaces. Evans, again, questioned whether the 45
spaces were adequate and, if so, should they be for an extra buffer or could green space be added.
After discussing the parking ratio for the physicians site, it was stated that while there was crowded
parking at the Fox Valley Physicians site, there was additional parking spaces available on their site
but only if the physicians could not obtain the extra 12 spaces being discussed. Mentioned, also, was
the fact that doctors or specialists could locate in the La Petite site which could provide different
parking requirements from a general family practice. If there was concern about a large parking field
and adding some green space to break it up, Commissioner Mead stated part of the agreement could
be to offset some of the costs of installing parking in the southwest corner of the Fox Valley
Physicians building.
Brief dialog followed regarding the landscaping at the front of the proposed building and
whether the petitioner could consider installing pervious material for the parking lot, to which
Mr. Murray stated he was open to the suggestion. However, staff said it was a question of whether
the storm water could be managed with such material and that it may not be cost effective.
Commissioner Mead then raised dialog about the challenges of the ingress/egress at the 7-11 store
coming off of Randall Road. He suggested that it may be time to consider an ingress only into the 7-
11 site with an exit through the rear on Randall Court.
Mr. Murray closed by stating he appreciated the input received.
Public Comment - None
Other Business
Planner DeGroot announced that the Fox Valley Presbyterian Church proposal was approved by City
Council this past week. The Penrose Brewery was on the agenda for City Council approval. At an
upcoming June 27, 2013 Plan Commission meeting, Ryan Homes will present a concept review for
the remaining parcels at Prairie Ridge (Bricher & Peck Roads). Chairman Rogers cautioned
commissioners on this proposal regarding the small lots, citing the previous Fisher Farms PUD. Other
updates followed: Duke and Lees was on hold, the Plan Commission application fees have been
increased and now require a deposit, and, since the subdivision and zoning fees are codified,
DeGroot reported that it will require a public hearing. Other applications followed. The LED sign for
Faith Lutheran is currently being reviewed for its brightness. Questions followed regarding the old
Mobile station in town. Also mentioned was the code enforcement issues occurring at Mill Race Inn.
Comments followed on when former Commissioner Jay Moffat would be recognized for his services to
the city -- possibly at City Council.
Adjournment
The meeting was adjourned at 7:40 p.m. on motion by Commissioner Evans. Motion carried
unanimously by voice vote of 6-0.
Agenda
Meeting Agenda
CITY OF GENEVA PLAN COMMISSION
JUNE 13, 2013 MEETING #1131
1. Call to Order
Location
City Hall 2. Roll Call
Council Chambers
109 James Street 3. Approval of Minutes: May 23, 2013
Geneva, IL 60134
4. Concept Review:
Time PUD Amendments & Final PUD/Site Plan Review -
Amendments to the parking requirements and setback
7:00 p.m.
requirements set forth in the Randall Center Planned Unit
Development related to the proposed redevelopment of the
Commissioners
former La Petite Academy child care center as physician offices.
Dave Rogers, Chairman
Location: 2423 Fargo Boulevard
John Mead
Fred Case Applicant: Rolf Jace Murray
Joel Erickson
5. Public Comment
Mim Evans
Cindy Leidig 6. Other Business
Scott Stocking
Ron Stevenson 7. Adjournment
Staff Liaison
David DeGroot
City Planner
Phone: (630) 232-0814
Email: ddegroot@geneva.il.us
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