Ethics Board
Regular MeetingGreen Bay, WI · April 28, 2022
Minutes
MINUTES OF THE ETHICS BOARD
THURSDAY, APRIL 28, 2022, 5:00 PM
Virtual Meeting. Public may join via Zoom.
A. ZOOM MEETING INSTRUCTIONS.
1. This item contains documents which provide call in information and instructions for the Zoom
meeting.
B. ROLL CALL.
1. William Vande Castle, Chair; Aaron Weinschenk, Vice Chair; Alder Bill Galvin; Cheryl Renier-
Wigg; Said Hassan; Janet Hathaway
Present: Chair William VandeCastle, Vice Chair Aaron Weinschenk, Alder Bill Galvin, Cheryl Renier-
Wigg, Janet Hathaway.
C. APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA.
1. Approval of the Agenda for the April 28, 2022 Ethics Board meeting
Moved by Ald. Bill Galvin, seconded by Staff Cheryl Renier-Wigg to approve the agenda.
Motion Passed.
Yes- Bill Galvin, William VandeCastle, Cheryl Renier-Wigg, Aaron Weinschenk, Janet Hathaway, No-
None, Abstain- None.
D. APPROVAL OF MINUTES.
1. Approval of the Minutes from the February 24, 2022 Ethics Board meeting
Moved by Ald. Bill Galvin, seconded by Aaron Weinschenk to approve the minutes from February
24, 2022.
Motion Passed.
Yes- Bill Galvin, William VandeCastle, Cheryl Renier-Wigg, Aaron Weinschenk, Janet Hathaway, No-
None, Abstain- None.
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E. REGULAR BUSINESS.
1. Deliberation with possible action on the Ethics Complaint filed by Kimber Rollin against Mayor Eric
Genrich under the City of Green Bay Code of Conduct for Elected Officials
The Board may convene in closed session pursuant to Section 19.85(1)(a), Wis. Stats., for purposes of deliberating concerning a case
which was the subject of any judicial or quasi-judicial trial or hearing before that governmental body. The Board will thereafter
reconvene in open session pursuant to Section 19.85(2), Wis. Stats., to take action on items discussed in closed session, if appropriate,
and to consider the remainder of the agenda.
Moved by Aaron Weinschenk, seconded by Board Member William VandeCastle to enter closed
session.
Motion Passed.
Yes- Bill Galvin, William VandeCastle, Cheryl Renier-Wigg, Aaron Weinschenk, Janet Hathaway, No-
None, Abstain- None.
Moved by Staff Cheryl Renier-Wigg, seconded by Board Member William VandeCastle to return to
regular session.
Motion Passed.
Yes- Bill Galvin, William VandeCastle, Cheryl Renier-Wigg, Aaron Weinschenk, Janet Hathaway, No-
None, Abstain- None.
Moved by Aaron Weinschenk, seconded by Board Member William VandeCastle to approve Findings
of Fact, Conclusions of Law, and Decision.
Motion Passed.
Yes- Bill Galvin, William VandeCastle, Cheryl Renier-Wigg, Aaron Weinschenk, Janet Hathaway, No-
None, Abstain- None.
2. Schedule next Board meeting for discussion of revised ethics ordinance
Next Ethics Board meeting will be May 12, 2022 to discuss revised ethics code
F. ADJOURNMENT.
Moved by Aaron Weinschenk, seconded by Staff Cheryl Renier-Wigg to adjourn.
Motion Passed.
Yes- Bill Galvin, William VandeCastle, Cheryl Renier-Wigg, Aaron Weinschenk, Janet Hathaway, No-
None, Abstain- None.
VERBATIM MINUTES
- Go ahead.
- All right, so we're ready to start?
- Hmm.
- Do we have a quorum?
- Yes.
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- All right, very good. So, we are started, this is the city of Green Bay Ethics Board meeting for
Thursday, April 28th, 2022. This meeting is being conducted via Zoom, and we have an agenda. We've
got roll call electronically. So, we'll move into first action item here, which is approval of the agenda.
You all would've received that in your packet. Are there any additions or modifications to the agenda?
- No.
- Hearing none, is there a motion to approve?
- No, move.
- Is there a second?
- Second.
- We have a motion and a second to approve the agenda for the April 28th, 2022 meeting of the City
of Green Bay Ethics Board all in favor, signify by saying aye.
- [Panel] Aye.
- Aye.
- Any oppose? Hearing none, motion carries. Item D, approval of minutes from the February 24th,
2022 Ethics Board meeting. That was also in your packet. Are there any additions or corrections to
those minutes? Good, hearing none, I forgot, is there a motion to approve?
- Motion to approve.
- Is there a second? All right, you have a motion and a second. And I'd just like to say, having read
through those minutes, Aaron, nice job conducting that meeting. That was a complicated set of
procedural things to go through and it was done very well, nicely done, very good. All right, all in favor
of approval of those minutes from February 24 signified by saying aye.
- [Panel] Aye.
- Any opposed? Motion carries. Item E. Excuse me. Deliberation of possible action on ethics complaint
filed by Kimber Rollin against Mayor Eric Genrich under the City of Green Bay Code of Conduct for
elected officials. So, we will be considering going into closed sessions, so, I will read that provision from
the statute. It states the following, "The board may convene in closed session pursuant to section 19.85
.8. of the Wisconsin statutes for the purpose of deliberating concerning the case, which was the subject
of any judicial or hearing before that governmental body. The board will thereafter reconvene an open
session pursuant to 19. of the Wisconsin statutes to take action on any items discussed and close the
session if appropriate and to consider the remainder of the agenda." And just before we take a vote,
I'm going into closed session, I'd like to say that as chair, I think this meeting was scheduled sooner, I
know attorney May was out of town for a while and then I ended up being out of the office for most of
March and early April. So, this was as soon as we could get it available when have a quorum, so my
apologies. So, we've a consideration to go into closed session is there a motion to go into closed
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session?
- Motion.
- Alright, I'll make the second for that. And so to do that, we need a roll call vote. So , you wanna call
the roll on that?
- You bet. Alder Galvin.
- Aye.
- VandeCastle.
- Aye.
- Miss Reiner-Wigg.
- Aye.
- Mr. Weinschenk.
- Aye.
- Ms. Hathaway.
- Yes, aye.
- That passes, it's five to zero.
- All right. So, as soon as we get everybody separated in their appropriate rooms, we'll go into closed
session.
- Okay and I'm going to do breakout rooms this time, so that I don't have to leave my office 'cause I
gotta keep running.
- Okay. Very good. We are coming out of closed session, is there a motion to return to open session.
Cheryl. All right, you have a motion and I will make the second to come out of closed session. All in
favor, signify by saying aye.
- [Panel] Aye.
- All right. Any opposed? Motion carries. We are back in open session. All right, for the record, we've
been in closed session in a discussion. Is there a motion from the board with respect to the findings and
conclusions of law and decision that was discussed with the changes?
- I'll make the motion.
- And I will second that motion. So, the motion on the floor is to approve the findings-
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- Bill Lindsey?
- We're good, thank you. I'm just making sure it was a motion to approve.
- Yeah, motion to approve, yes. The findings of fact conclusions of law in decision of the Ethics Board in
regard to Ms. Rowland's complaint against mayor Genrich with the changes that were discussed in
closed session. So, we have a motion and a second, any discussion? Hearing none, all in favor of the
motion signify by saying aye.
- [Panel] Aye.
- Any opposed? Hearing none, the motion carries. So, based on the discussion in closed session, we will
be issuing a full set of findings of fact conclusions of law and a written decision regarding those findings
and conclusions but the substance of that decision is that because the complaint was found to be
deficient under the provisions of section 8 of the code of conduct for the city of Green Bay elected
officials and because it alleges actions that are not encompassed by the code of conduct, that complaint
is hereby dismissed. And again, the full findings of fact, be a document about four pages in length listing
the findings and the conclusions of law that, that decision was based on, as soon as the revised draft
that was discussed in closed session tonight is made available, it will be entered into the record and
provided to all the parties. All right. Anything further on this issue from the board before we move on
to item two and regular business? Hearing none. Okay, item two, schedule the next board meeting for
discussion of revised ethics ordinance. Lindsey, is that something you wanna work out with the board
as to when we could get together next or do you wanna set a date now?
- I would like us to or like you all to discuss a date that works. I wanted to do this while attorney May
was here because he's been on outside counsel working on the revisions but we're very excited 'cause
we're very close on presenting you with our ethics ordinance.
- Okay.
- And I will defer to attorney May but I think, relatively soon or relatively quick turnaround time is
appropriate.
- Okay.
- As far as when we would be ready to bring this back. So, it's really going to depend on everyone's
availability as far as that goes. We typically try for Thursday evenings at 5:00, if that continues to work
for everyone.
- Yeah.
- Yeah, if we are gonna do that, I would suggest if it works in people's schedules, either May 12th or
May 19th.
- The 19th doesn't work for me.
- What time are we thinking?
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- At 5:00 again. Sorry, Alder, I couldn't hear you.
- I was just mumbling.
- Oh. You're allowed.
- Yeah, the 12th, is fine.
- 12th, works for me as well.
- And for me.
- Okay.
- Yep, 12th, is fine.
- Great, looks like we have a date.
- Fantastic.
- Lindsey, has this ordinance been drafted in a rough form already or is this like discussion starting from
square one?
- No, it's been- Well, attorney May, do you wanna speak to it?
- Sure, it has been drafted. We've gone back and forth. I've had several consultations with the city
attorney's office on the draft. And we would like to have to you hopefully, well, ahead of that meeting a
copy of the draft and we're including some commentary on what is the change, if any, from the existing
code? If there's a change, where did it come from? And why do we think it's important? And hopefully if
you get it it'll give you some time to think about that and be ready to discuss it. I'm sure it'll take more
than one meeting for the board to go through it and figure out where we go with it. But I think the
attorneys are pretty confident that we're in a state where probably sometimes next week, we can get
that out to you.
- Very good. That's something that we've been waiting for, for at least five years.
- Five.
- If not longer.
- I won't say anything about the liquor laws.
- It's next I promise.
- I hope I'm still here by then.
- I've said that to you, how many times now though?
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- Yeah, I could have lost this time and then what would that have accomplished?
- Yeah, there you go, yeah.
- What was you asking about Alder Gavin?
- I asked to have the liquor laws revised.
- Oh my God.
- About five, six years ago.
- Yeah, that's a real, well, yeah. I won't comment.
- Yeah.
- Yeah. Okay, so we've got a date for the meeting. Anything more on that issue before we move to
adjournment? No. Is there a motion to adjourn?
- Yes.
- Got a motion, is there a second?
- I'll second.
- All right, motion to adjourn is second. All in favor of adjournment, signify by saying aye.
- [Panel] Aye.
- Looks like the motion carries. Thank you all very much for your time tonight. And hopefully we will
get a new updated current code of conduct here shortly. So, very good. Thank you all. Very good.
Have a good night.
- [Panel] Goodnight.
- Thank you all, goodnight everyone.
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Agenda
AGENDA OF THE ETHICS BOARD
THURSDAY, APRIL 28, 2022, 5:00 PM
Virtual Meeting. Public may join via Zoom.
A. Zoom Meeting Instructions.
1. This item contains documents which provide call in information and instructions for the
Zoom meeting.
B. Roll Call.
1. William Vande Castle, Chair; Aaron Weinschenk, Vice Chair; Alder Bill Galvin; Cheryl
Renier-Wigg; Said Hassan; Janet Hathaway
C. Approval of the Agenda.
1. Approval of the Agenda for the April 28, 2022 Ethics Board meeting
D. Approval of Minutes.
1. Approval of the Minutes from the February 24, 2022 Ethics Board meeting
E. Regular Business.
1. Deliberation with possible action on the Ethics Complaint filed by Kimber Rollin against
Mayor Eric Genrich under the City of Green Bay Code of Conduct for Elected Officials
The Board may convene in closed session pursuant to Section 19.85(1)(a), Wis. Stats., for purposes of deliberating
concerning a case which was the subject of any judicial or quasi-judicial trial or hearing before that governmental body. The
Board will thereafter reconvene in open session pursuant to Section 19.85(2), Wis. Stats., to take action on items discussed
in closed session, if appropriate, and to consider the remainder of the agenda.
2. Schedule next Board meeting for discussion of revised ethics ordinance
F. Adjournment.
Agenda of the Ethics Board
April 28, 2022
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1) THIS MEETING IS RECORDED: THE VIDEO OF THIS MEETING AND MINUTES ARE AVAILABLE ONLINE
AT www.greenbaywi.gov
2) ACCESSIBILITY: Any person wishing to attend who requires special accommodation because of a disability,
should contact the City Safety Manager at 920-448-3125 at least 48 hours before the scheduled meeting time so
that arrangements can be made.
3) QUORUM: Please take notice that a majority or quorum of the Common Council will attend this Ethics Board
meeting and will constitute a meeting of the Common Council for purposes of discussion and information
gathering relative to this agenda.
4) REPRESENTATION: The party requesting the communication, or their representative, should be present at this
meeting.
Agenda of the Ethics Board
April 28, 2022
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Packet
AGENDA OF THE ETHICS BOARD
THURSDAY, APRIL 28, 2022, 5:00 PM
Virtual Meeting. Public may join via Zoom.
A. Zoom Meeting Instructions.
1. This item contains documents which provide call in information and instructions for the
Zoom meeting.
B. Roll Call.
1. William Vande Castle, Chair; Aaron Weinschenk, Vice Chair; Alder Bill Galvin; Cheryl
Renier-Wigg; Said Hassan; Janet Hathaway
C. Approval of the Agenda.
1. Approval of the Agenda for the April 28, 2022 Ethics Board meeting
D. Approval of Minutes.
1. Approval of the Minutes from the February 24, 2022 Ethics Board meeting
E. Regular Business.
1. Deliberation with possible action on the Ethics Complaint filed by Kimber Rollin against
Mayor Eric Genrich under the City of Green Bay Code of Conduct for Elected Officials
The Board may convene in closed session pursuant to Section 19.85(1)(a), Wis. Stats., for purposes of deliberating
concerning a case which was the subject of any judicial or quasi-judicial trial or hearing before that governmental body. The
Board will thereafter reconvene in open session pursuant to Section 19.85(2), Wis. Stats., to take action on items discussed
in closed session, if appropriate, and to consider the remainder of the agenda.
2. Schedule next Board meeting for discussion of revised ethics ordinance
F. Adjournment.
Agenda of the Ethics Board
April 28, 2022
Page 1
1) THIS MEETING IS RECORDED: THE VIDEO OF THIS MEETING AND MINUTES ARE AVAILABLE ONLINE
AT www.greenbaywi.gov
2) ACCESSIBILITY: Any person wishing to attend who requires special accommodation because of a disability,
should contact the City Safety Manager at 920-448-3125 at least 48 hours before the scheduled meeting time so
that arrangements can be made.
3) QUORUM: Please take notice that a majority or quorum of the Common Council will attend this Ethics Board
meeting and will constitute a meeting of the Common Council for purposes of discussion and information
gathering relative to this agenda.
4) REPRESENTATION: The party requesting the communication, or their representative, should be present at this
meeting.
Agenda of the Ethics Board
April 28, 2022
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MINUTES OF THE ETHICS BOARD
THURSDAY, FEBRUARY 24, 2022, 5:00 PM
Virtual Meeting. Public may join via Zoom.
A. ZOOM MEETING INSTRUCTIONS.
1. This item contains Zoom information, instructions, and a link to the Virtual Comment Form.
B. ROLL CALL.
1. William Vande Castle, Chair; Aaron Weinschenk, Vice Chair; Alder Bill Galvin; Cheryl Renier-
Wigg; Said Hassan; Janet Hathaway
Present: Cheryl Renier-Wigg, Aaron Weinschenk, Janet Hathaway, Excused: Bill Galvin, William
VandeCastle.
C. APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA.
1. Approval of the Agenda for the February 24, 2022 Ethics Board Meeting.
Moved by Staff Cheryl Renier-Wigg, seconded by Aaron Weinschenk to approve.
Motion Passed.
Yes- Cheryl Renier-Wigg, Aaron Weinschenk, Janet Hathaway, No- None, Abstain- None.
D. APPROVAL OF MINUTES.
1. Approval of the Minutes for the February 10, 2022 Ethics Board meeting.
Moved by Staff Cheryl Renier-Wigg, seconded by Janet Hathaway to approve.
Motion Passed.
Yes- Cheryl Renier-Wigg, Aaron Weinschenk, Janet Hathaway, No- None, Abstain- None.
E. REGULAR BUSINESS.
1. Deliberation with possible action on the Ethics Complaint filed by Brenda Staudenmaier under the
City of Gren Bay Code of Conduct for Elected Officials against Mayor Eric Genrich and Alders
Brunette, Scannell, Stevens, Galvin, Gerlach, and Dorff.
The Board may convene in closed session pursuant to Section 19.85(1)(a), Wis. Stats., for purposes of deliberating concerning a case
which was the subject of any judicial or quasi-judicial trial or hearing before that governmental body. The Board will thereafter
reconvene in open session pursuant to Section 19.85(2), Wis. Stats., to take action on items discussed in closed session, if appropriate,
and to consider the remainder of the agenda.
Moved by Aaron Weinschenk, seconded by Staff Cheryl Renier-Wigg to suspend the rules and take
up items 1 through 3 together.
Motion Passed.
Yes- Cheryl Renier-Wigg, Aaron Weinschenk, Janet Hathaway, No- None, Abstain- None.
Moved by Staff Cheryl Renier-Wigg, seconded by Janet Hathaway to enter closed session.
Motion Passed.
Yes- Cheryl Renier-Wigg, Aaron Weinschenk, Janet Hathaway, No- None, Abstain- None.
Moved by Staff Cheryl Renier-Wigg, seconded by Janet Hathaway to return to regular session.
Motion Passed.
Yes- Cheryl Renier-Wigg, Aaron Weinschenk, Janet Hathaway, No- None, Abstain- None.
Moved by Janet Hathaway, seconded by Staff Cheryl Renier-Wigg to approve Findings of Fact and
Conclusions of Law on the Complaint of Brenda Staudenmaier.
Motion Passed.
Yes- Cheryl Renier-Wigg, Aaron Weinschenk, Janet Hathaway, No- None, Abstain- None.
Moved by Janet Hathaway, seconded by Staff Cheryl Renier-Wigg to approve Findings of Fact and
Conclusions of Law on the Complaint of Keith Decker.
Motion Passed.
Yes- Cheryl Renier-Wigg, Aaron Weinschenk, Janet Hathaway, No- None, Abstain- None.
Moved by Janet Hathaway, seconded by Staff Cheryl Renier-Wigg to approve Findings of Fact and
Conclusions of Law on the Complaint of Lacey Kuehl.
Motion Passed.
Yes- Cheryl Renier-Wigg, Aaron Weinschenk, Janet Hathaway, No- None, Abstain- None.
2. Deliberation with possible action on the Ethics Complaint filed by Keith Decker under the City of
Gren Bay Code of Conduct for Elected Officials against Mayor Eric Genrich and Alders Brunette,
Scannell, Stevens, Galvin, Gerlach, and Dorff.
The Board may convene in closed session pursuant to Section 19.85(1)(a), Wis. Stats., for purposes of deliberating concerning a case
which was the subject of any judicial or quasi-judicial trial or hearing before that governmental body. The Board will thereafter
reconvene in open session pursuant to Section 19.85(2), Wis. Stats., to take action on items discussed in closed session, if appropriate,
and to consider the remainder of the agenda.
See Item G.1.
3. Deliberation with possible action on the Ethics Complaint filed by Lacey Kuehl under the City of
Gren Bay Code of Conduct for Elected Officials against Mayor Eric Genrich and Alders Brunette,
Scannell, Stevens, Galvin, Gerlach, and Dorff.
The Board may convene in closed session pursuant to Section 19.85(1)(a), Wis. Stats., for purposes of deliberating concerning a case
which was the subject of any judicial or quasi-judicial trial or hearing before that governmental body. The Board will thereafter
reconvene in open session pursuant to Section 19.85(2), Wis. Stats., to take action on items discussed in closed session, if appropriate,
and to consider the remainder of the agenda.
See Item G.1.
4. Scheduling of future proceedings.
F. ADJOURNMENT.
Moved by Aaron Weinschenk, seconded by Staff Cheryl Renier-Wigg to adjourn.
Motion Passed.
Yes- Cheryl Renier-Wigg, Aaron Weinschenk, Janet Hathaway, No- None, Abstain- None.
VERBATIM MINUTES
- All right, good evening everyone. This is the February 24th 2022 ethics board. And the first item on
our, our agenda is roll call. Lindsay, we don't need a voice or anything like that. We can just use the
Zoom record as roll call?
- Bill will usually... Bill will do, do it one or two ways. Either ask the individual board members to just
say here or he'll just note on the record who's here. Um, but one way or the other, an, an actual
record of who's here is...
- I think, I think a video recording indicating that Cheryl, Aaron and Janet are here is sufficient. And
we do have a quorum. We have two recusals for this particular set of issues, but still a quorum given
the number of people. Next item on the agenda... approval of the agenda for the February 24th, 2022
ethics board meeting. And we would need a motion.
- We want to take, um, these items together or we need to do these separately, Lindsay.
- So, for purposes of approving the agenda, you can just approve it. And then when we actually get to
regular business, you can move to take them up.
- I'll motion to approve the agenda then.
- Thanks.
- I'll second it. And any additions, corrections, suggestions. Hearing none. All those in favor signify by
saying aye.
- Aye
- Aye
- Aye. Opposed. And then the motion carries. Is approval of the minutes for the February 10th, 2022
ethics board meeting. Those were in your agenda packets.
- Motion to approve.
- We have a motion.
- A second.
- We have a second from Janet. Any discussion? All in favor, signified by saying aye.
- Aye.
- Aye. Any opposed? The motion carries. And we are to agenda E, which is regular business. And I
think Cheryl, this is what you were asking. Do we need to do something to handle these
simultaneously? Lindsay, any thoughts on like, if we need a motion to suspend the rules like we did
last time?
- Yeah, yep. You'd need a motion to suspend the rules which requires a two thirds vote.
- And that will, that would allow us to deliberate on them at the same time and then come back and
share our decision?
- Um, yes, actually, um... Yeah. Yeah. So the motion would be to suspend the rules to take up items
one through three, um, together. And then after that, if that passes then you would move to go into
close session. We could deliberate. Yeah. Just like you said.
- Yeah. I, I'm willing to make the motion, that we suspend the rules and consider items one through
three under regular business simultaneously.
- Second that.
- Discussion? Signify by saying I.
- Aye.
- Aye.
- Aye. No opposed? The motion carries. So, what we will, we will go into closed session. We will, as
you might recall from last time we directed...
- You first need a motion to go into close session.
- Oh, we need a motion to go into closed session.
- Motion to into closed session.
- I'll second.
- I'll second.
- Alder Gerlach has a question.
- May I ask it?
- I, I recognize you. Go for it.
- Okay. I, I'm just wondering, what still closed session this time than last time you went into closed
session? You went into...
- What's, what's different?
- Closed session. Yeah, what are you going to do differently this time that you didn't do last time?
- Uh, actually can't answer that. Cause we can't talk about what we did in closed session last time.
- Okay.
- Sorry, alder. Okay. Sorry. So the motion was to go...
- Think we have another question. I see we have another question from Alder Stevens.
- Alder Stevens?
- I think what Alder Gerlach is trying to ask is. Are you going into closed session before you give us
your judgment?
- Yes.
- Okay. And that will be done tonight?
- Yes.
- Okay.
- That, that's the...
- The board will rule on the motion or on the issue of jurisdiction tonight, after.
- Well, you're going into closed session to talk about that then you're gonna come back. Okay.
- Correct.
- That's what we're, that's what she was trying to get at. So.
- Gotcha.
- Thank you.
- I'm sorry. Sorry for the confusion.
- Sure.
- We had a, did we have a motion and a second?
- I had you making the motion, right?
- Nope.
- Who or wait, Cheryl made the motion. I apologize. All right. Who made the motion and who
seconded it? I apologize everyone.
- I think I made the motion. Maybe Janet seconded it.
- Okay.
- That works.
- That works.
- All right. Before you can vote on it, you need to read the language. And Cheryl made the motion.
So Cheryl, can you read it? Or do you want someone else to read it?
- Actually could Aaron, would you mind reading it?
- Yep, I can read it.
- I don't have my reading with me right now.
- Yep.
- I should have this memorized given how many times I've heard it over the past couple years. But I
still have to pull it up. Um, the board may convene in close session pursuant to section 19.85, sub
one, sub A of Wisconsin statutes. For the purpose of delivering, delivering concertos which was a
subject of any judicial or quasi-judicial trial or hearing before that governmental body. The board will
therefore re, reconvene an open session pursuant to section 19.85 sub two of Wisconsin statutes to
take action on as discussed in close session. If appropriate and to consider the remainder of the
agenda. And so now we need to, now we need to vote on it, Lindsay?
- Mm-hmm.
- Okay. And I guess we need, we could have discussion if people want to discuss anything. All in favor
signify by saying aye.
- Aye.
- Aye.
- Aye.
- Opposed? Motion carries. Lindsay, will you help us get to the, uh, breakout room?
- I sure will. So I'm going to move everybody except the alders and the attorneys into the waiting
room. And we'll bring you back when we're done with the closed session. Or when the, the board is
done with the closed session. Now.
- Make a motion to go back into open session.
- I'll second.
- Discussion? All those in favor, signified by saying aye. Aye
- Aye
- Aye.
- And any opposed? Then motion carries. So we are back in open session. What I'm going to to do is
turn my video off and then read you our decision. So that you're not watching me follow the text on
the screen as I'm reading it right in front of my camera. And then we will go from there and finish out
the rest of the agenda. So I'll read our decision and, uh... yeah. [Aaron] Just give you me one second
to get situated here. Lindsay, do I need to read the, like the stuff at the top? Like the who's involved
in the ethics complaint? Or can I just skip that? Okay.
- Yep.
- All right. So this is ethics complaint, Brenda Staudenmaier versus Mayor Genrich, Alders Brunette,
Scannell, Stevens, Galvin, Gerlach and Dorff. And I will read, uh, some other sections on how, how
these apply to all of the complaints since we handled them simultaneously. So, uh, findings of fact,
conclusions of law. This matter came before the ethics board for public hearing on December 14th,
2021. The board raise questions about its jurisdiction to hear the complaint. And the matter was
continued to February 10th, 2022, to allow the parties an opportunity to brief the jurisdiction issue.
Findings of fact, number one, this matter was heard by the ethics board at the meeting that was first
available, after the complaint was filed. Number two, the parties were provided an opportunity to
submit written documentation and support of their p-positions concerning the board's jurisdiction.
Number three, complainant Brenda Staudenmaier and respondents Dorff, Gerlach, Galvin, Stevens
and Scannel submitted briefs in support of their positions. Number four, at the common council
meeting on December 1st, 2020, Alder Randy Scannel moved to approve item number six from the
protection and police committee report. Quote, to receive and place on file the request by Alder
Galvin. Filed on behalf of constituent, constituent Brenda Staudenmaier that the city can consider
taking fluoride out of the treatment process for city water. The motion was seconded. Number five,
subsequently a motion was made and seconded to open the floor to the public for discussion. The
motion failed six votes to six votes. Mayor Genrich could not cast a vote on the motion to open the
floor. The respondents are the six alders who voted no. The jurisdiction of the ethics board. Number
six, the, the jurisdiction of the ethics board is limited, limited to enforcing the ethics provisions of the
Green Bay municipal code and quote, conducting hearings regarding complaints filed in conformance
with the code of conduct for elected officials as adopted by the common council, and as amended
from time to time. Number seven, section 4a of the code of conduct for elected offic-officials of the
city of Green Bay. Entitled be welcoming to speakers and treat them with care and respect states for
many citizens speaking in front of the council is a new and difficult experience under such
circumstances, many are nervous. Council members are expected to treat citizens with care and
respect during public hearings. Council members should commit full attention to the speakers, or any
materials relevant to the topic at hand. Comments and non verbal, verbal expressions should be
appropriate or respectful and professional. Number 8, section 4b of the code of conduct for elected
officials of the city of Green Bay is entitled, be fair and equitable in allocating public hearing time to
individual speakers states. The mayor will determine and announce time limits on speakers at the
start of the public hearing process. Generally, each speaker will be allocated five minutes with
applicants and appellants, or their designated representat, representative allowed more time. If many
speakers are anticipated, the mayor may shorten the time limit and or ask speakers to limit
themselves to new information points of view, not already covered by the previous speakers. Each
speaker may only speak once during the public hearing unless the council requests additional
clarification later in the process. After the close of the public hearing no additional public testimony
will be accepted. Unless the council reopens the public hearing for limited and specific purpose.
Number nine, the rules and council the rules of council procedure and the Green Bay municipal code
govern the rights of others to address the council. Quote, no person other than a member shall
address the council unless the rules are suspended. Except under the order of business for that
purpose. Number 10, under Wisconsin open meetings laws, members of the public have a right to
attend and observe public, observe proceedings of bodies such as common council. However, the law
does not require the body to to allow the public to speak. Number 11, unless there is a specifically
requiring a public hearing on a particular matter. A governmental body is free to determine for itself
whether and to what extent it will allow citizen participation at its meetings. Number 12, there was
no applicable statute requiring a public hearing on the fluoride matter. And the matter was not, as
noticed as a public hearing on the agenda. Our conclusions of law. Number one, the ethics complain
is properly before the ethics board pursuant to section 2-238 of the Green Bay municipal code.
Number two, a hearing on this matter, was timely conducted in accordance with section eight of the
code of conduct for elected officials of the city of Green Bay. Number three, neither the open
Wisconsin opens meeting law nor the Green Bay municipal code require the common council to
open the floor for public participation in circumstances such as those surrounding the fluoride issue,
at the December 1st, 2020 council, city council meeting or common council meeting. Number four,
both sections of the code of conduct cited by the complaint in sections 4a and 4b relate to elected
official conduct towards speakers. Number five, because the council did not permit public
participation on the fluoride either. Uh, fluoride item, neither complainant, nor anyone else wanting
to be heard on that topic was a speaker as the term is used in the code of conduct for elected
officials. Number six, given that the members of the public were not speakers under the code of
conduct. Complainant has not alleged a violation of sections 4a and 4b of the code of conduct nor
any other provision within the ethics board jurisdiction under 2-238 of Green Bay municipal code.
Number seven, the ethics board does not have jurisdiction to consider this matter further, and it is
hereby dismissed. And so what we would need now that I've read that into the record is a motion to
approve.
- I'll move to approve.
- I'll second that.
- [Aaron] Second. And any discussion? All those in favor signify by saying aye.
- Aye.
- Aye.
- [Aaron] Aye. Any opposed? The motion carries. And so, I will now read two sections. Since I don't
wanna read those, probably don't need to read those all over again. Uh... The findings in fact. The
finding of fact and conclusions of law regarding the complaint of Keith Decker are identical to those
read for item one of this agenda. Except that paragraph three is altered to reference competent,
complainant Keith Decker instead of complainant, Brenda Staudenmaier. All the texts will be
identical, except for that portion. I guess we need a motion to approve.
- I'll move to approve.
- [Aaron] Motion.
- I'll second.
- [Aaron] Second. Any discussion? All those in favor signified by saying aye. Aye
- Aye.
- [Aaron] Any opposed? Motion carries. And last item, uh... item number three. The findings of facts,
uh, the finding of fact, of fact and conclusions of law regarding the complainant, Lacey Quel, are
identical to those read in for item one of this agenda. Except that paragraph three is altered to
reference complainant Lacey Cuel. Instead of complainant, Brenda Staudenmaier. Again we need a
motion.
- I'll move to approve.
- [Aaron] Motion from Janet.
- I'll second.
- [Aaron] Second from Cheryl. Any discussion? All those in favor signify by saying aye.
- Aye.
- Aye.
- [Aaron] Aye. Any opposed? Motion carries. So, what will happen is a copy of, those will be, uh, sent
to the city council. Complainants will also get copies for their records. Do we send copies to, uh,
those named as well Lindsay? Yep. So all the alders and Mayor Genrich will receive copies as well. Uh,
and I think we have one more agen, agenda item. Am I missing anything, Lindsay? Besides
adjournment?
- Um, the only other thing on there was, uh, scheduling further proceedings and that was only if
necessary. So, uh, adjournment is all there is.
- [Aaron] Adjournment is all there is. We need a motion and a second. I'll make the motion.
- I'll second.
- [Aaron] All those in favor.
- Aye.
- Aye.
- [Aaron] Aye. All right. The motion carries. We are adjourned. Thank you everyone. Thanks Lindsay
for your help.
- Thanks everyone.
- Thanks everyone.
Report to the
Ethics Board
of the City of Green Bay
MEETING DATE PREPARED BY
April 28, 2022
AGENDA ITEM # E.1
Deliberation with possible action on the Ethics Complaint filed by Kimber Rollin against Mayor Eric Genrich
under the City of Green Bay Code of Conduct for Elected Officials
The Board may convene in closed session pursuant to Section 19.85(1)(a), Wis. Stats., for purposes of deliberating concerning a case
which was the subject of any judicial or quasi-judicial trial or hearing before that governmental body. The Board will thereafter
reconvene in open session pursuant to Section 19.85(2), Wis. Stats., to take action on items discussed in closed session, if
appropriate, and to consider the remainder of the agenda.
BACKGROUND
RECOMMENDATION
FISCAL IMPACT
ATTACHMENTS
1. Complaint - Rollin v Genrich
2. Lenz letter w jurisdictional arguments
3. Rollin Response to Jurisdictional and Recusal Issues
4. Genrich Reply Letter
5. Genrich Reply Exhibit
100 North Jefferson Street, Room 608, Green Bay, Wisconsin 54301-5026
(p) 920.448.3400 (f) 920.448.3426 greenbaywi.gov
December 9, 2021
City of Green Bay Ethics Board
c/o Attorney Michael May
Boardman & Clark LLP
1 South Pinckney Street, Suite 410
PO Box 927
Madison, WI 53701-0927
Re: Rollin Code of Conduct Complaint
To the City of Green Bay Ethics Board,
On behalf of Mayor Genrich, thank you for giving our client an opportunity to address the jurisdictional
defects in Kimber Rollin’s Ethics Complaint (the “Complaint”), dated November 4, 2021.
The 2020 General Election was conducted to the highest standards governing elections in Wisconsin.
Mayor Genrich is proud of the city staff and election officials who worked to ensure that citizens in
Green Bay were able to exercise their right to vote. Mayor Genrich, city departments, and staff have
continued to be open and transparent, in accordance with Wisconsin law, about how the 2020 General
Election was administered. Every court that has reviewed the matter has affirmed that Wisconsin
administered the 2020 General Election in accordance with state and federal law. 1 Most recently, the
Wisconsin Elections Commission issued its decision in Carlstedt, et al. v. Wolfe, in which Mayor Genrich
was also named as a respondent, finding no probable cause that anyone violated any law or committed
any abuse of discretion related to grant funding the City received so it could run a safe and inclusive
election. Mayor Genrich absolutely denies that, at any time, he failed to live up to the “highest standard
of ethics” as described in the City of Green Bay Code of Conduct (the “Code”). The Complaint is based on
blatant, disproved falsehoods and an incorrect understanding of the law.
The Complaint also presents a number of jurisdictional issues which require dismissal: (1) The
Complaint is untimely; (2) The Complaint fails to follow the procedures set forth in the Code; (3) The
Complaint is comprised of allegations that fall outside the Code and which have already been
conclusively and repeatedly litigated.
1 See, e.g., Trump v. Wis. Elections Comm’n, 506 F. Supp. 3d 620 (E.D. Wis.), aff’d, 983 F.3d 919 (7th Cir.
2020), cert. denied, 141 S.Ct. 1516 (U.S. 2021); Feehan v. Wis. Elections Comm’n, 506 F. Supp. 3d 596 (E.D. Wis.
2020), petitions for extraordinary relief denied, No. 20-859 (U.S. Mar. 1, 2021), vacated on remand after appeal
dismissed as moot, No. 20-cv-1771-PP, ECF No. 95 (E.D. Wis. Mar. 16, 2021); Wis. Voters Alliance v. Pence, 514 F.
Supp. 3d 117 (D.D.C. 2021); Trump v. Biden, 2020 WI 91, 394 Wis. 2d 629; Wis. Voters Alliance v. Wis. Elections
Comm’n, No. 2020AP1930-OA (Wis. Dec. 4, 2020); Trump v. Evers, No. 2020AP1971-OA (Wis. Dec. 3, 2020).
First, the Complaint is not timely. The Code provides, “A complaint under the Code must be filed no later
than one year from the date of discovery of the alleged violation.” City of Green Bay Code of Conduct, §
8.B. This is analogous to a statute of limitations in civil or criminal law. In Wisconsin, failure to file a
complaint within the applicable statute of limitations deprives the body of jurisdiction over the matter.
Hester v. Williams, 117 Wis. 2d 634, 641, 345 N.W.2d 426, 429 (1984) (Court loses subject matter
expiration after the expiration of a civil statute of limitations); State v. Muentner, 138 Wis. 2d 374, 384,
406 N.W.2d 415, 420 (1987) (Court loses personal jurisdiction over a defendant after the expiration of
the statute of limitations). Rollin’s November 4, 2021 Complaint contains no factual allegations
regarding activity which occurred in the year prior to Rollin submitting it to the clerk. The first
paragraph of the Complaint is devoted to allegations of activities that occurred in June and July of 2021.
The second and third paragraphs all pertain to allegations of activities on the date of the 2020 General
Election – November 3, 2020 – at Central Count in Green Bay. That was one year and one day prior to
Rollin’s submitting the Complaint.
The Complaint contains two references to November 4: (1) That Mayor Genrich was present at Central
Count and (2) that Mayor Genrich “allowed Michael Spitzer Rubinstein to return to Central Count and
resume his position running Central Count.” (Complaint, p. 2). To be clear, this is wildly inaccurate. A
member of the City Clerk’s staff was Chief Inspector at Central Count. Regardless, Central Count was
completed at 4:00 am on November 4, 2020. The ballots were returned to City Hall at approximately
4:40 am. Mr. Spitzer Rubinstein actually left Central Count, where had been observing, several hours
earlier, around 1:00 am. The Complaint does not contain a time stamp, but Green Bay City Hall generally
does not open to the public until 8:00 am2. Even assuming that Rollin submitted the Complaint
immediately at 8:00, that was more than a year after any of the alleged violations occurred.
Rollin also cannot claim that she did not discover the alleged violations until later. Again, under the
analogous court decisions analyzing statutes of limitations in Wisconsin, a person can only rely on this
rule if they exercised “reasonable diligence.” Jacobs v. Nor–Lake, Inc., 217 Wis. 2d 625, 634, 579 N.W.2d
254 (Ct. App. 1998). The Code encourages anyone who wishes to file a complaint to do so as soon as they
obtain relevant information. That did not happen here, to put it mildly. The allegations in the Complaint
center on activities which occurred in public and were the subject of contemporaneous media reports 3.
2 City Hall opens at 7:00 am on election days.
3 Mary Spicuzza, Wisconsin's Five Largest Cities Awarded $6.3 Million In Effort To Make Elections Safer Amid Coronavirus
Pandemic, Milwaukee Journal Sentinel, July 6, 2020, available
https://www.jsonline.com/story/news/politics/2020/07/06/wisconsins-five-largest-cities-awarded-6-3-million-effort-
make-elections-safer-amid-coronavirus-pand/5382546002/?utm_campaign=snd-autopilot (last visited December 9, 2021);
Katrina Nickell, Green Bay Receives $1 Million Grant For Elections, Fox11 News, July 6, 2020, available at
https://fox11online.com/news/election/green-bay-receives-1-million-grant-for-elections?src=link (last visited December 9,
2021).
The CTCL grants were unanimously approved at a July 21, 2020 public meeting of the City Council. They
were also the subject of pre-election litigation in federal court. Wis. Voters Alliance v. City of Racine, No.
20-C-1487 (E.D. Wis. October 14, 2020).
As required by law, Central Count was open for public observation until it completed its work. Wis. Stat. §
7.41. There were, in fact, many observers present. The entire process was also live-streamed on
Youtube4. This was perhaps the most-watched election in history.
Because the allegations are untimely, this Board lacks jurisdiction over the Complaint must dismiss the
Complaint without further proceeding.
Second, the Complaint does not meet the basic requirements set forth in the Code. The Code requires that:
Attached to the complaint the person making the complaint shall provide all documents or other
materials in the complainant’s possession that are relevant to the allegation, a list of all documents
or other materials relevant to the allegation that are available to the complainant but not in the
complainant’s possession, and a list of all other documents or other materials relevant to the
allegation but unavailable to the complainant, including the location of the documents if known, and
a list of witnesses, what they may know, and information to contact those witnesses.
City of Green Bay Code of Conduct, § 8.B. The Complaint does none of these things. It includes no effort to
attach, describe, or identify any document beyond the City Attorney’s April 21, 2021 Memorandum. That
memorandum does not support but contravenes the allegations contained the Complaint. The Complaint
does not contain any contact information or identifying information for potential witnesses, though
Rollin requested two hours to present evidence and additional time for rebuttal. It does not identify or
attach the “numerous emails, testimony from poll workers and documents” that Rollin apparently
gathered. To the extent that Rollin sought to base the Complaint on information and belief, she was
obliged to identify her sources. City of Green Bay Code of Conduct, § 8.B. She did not.
The Complaint is deficient on its face and does not follow the rules set forth in the Code for a complainant
who wishes to proceed to an evidentiary hearing. It should be dismissed.
Third, the Complaint does not describe a violation of a “requirement, prohibition, or guideline”
contained in the Code. City of Green Bay Code of Conduct, § 8.A. Rather, it is a clear attempt to relitigate
baseless allegations that the 2020 General Election was unlawful. The Complaint references only one
section of the Code – Section I – which generally describes the City’s commitment to the Code and
4 Casey Nelson, Green Bay to Live Steam Ballot Countiing Process, wncy.com, October 29, 2020, available at
https://wncy.com/2020/10/29/green-bay-to-live-stream-ballot-counting-process/ (last visited December 9, 2021).
preserving ethical behavior among elected officials. The Complaint does not describe any specific
requirement, prohibition, or guideline, other than a general allegation that Mayor Genrich failed to act
ethically. (Complaint, p. 2). The Code contains many actual prohibitions and provisions, such as a rule
prohibiting Council members from soliciting political support from City staff. City of Green Bay Code of
Conduct, § 3.D. The Complaint, on the other hand, is much more specific about other laws that Rollin
believes may have been violated: Wisconsin State Statutes Chapter 7 and sections 5.86, 5.87, and 946.12,
“among others.”
Chapter 5 and 7 of the statutes are, under Wiscosin law, enforced in the first instance by the Wisconsin
Elections Commission. Wis. Stat. § 5.05. Section 946.12 is a criminal statute, enforceable by a district
attorney or the Attorney General. None of the laws fall within the ambit of the City Code of Conduct. The
Wisconsin Elections Commission, which is the proper entity to hear such a complaint, just issued its
decision in Carlstedt, et al. v. Wolfe, Case No. EL 21-24, finding that there was no probable cause to find
that anyone, including Mayor Genrich, violated the law or committed an abuse of discretion related to the
CTCL grants. The Commission decision (which is enclosed for the Board’s convenience) is just the latest
decision in the long run of pre- and post-election litigation over Wisconsin’s November 2020 election,
including the cases cited in note 1, above. These issues have been heard and decided in other arenas. This
Board is not the proper forum for rewarmed allegations already rejected by state courts, federal courts,
and the Wisconsin Elections Commission.
Because the Complaint seeks to adjudicate issues outside the Code, and because its allegations related to
those issues have been exhaustively litigated and repeatedly found baseless, it should be dismissed.
On behalf of Mayor Genrich, we look forward to appearing before the Board on December 14. If we can
provide any additional information to the Board before that time, please contact me at
dlenz@lawforward.org or at 608-556-9120.
Thank you
Electronically signed by Daniel S. Lenz
Daniel S. Lenz
Staff Counsel
Law Forward, Inc.
CC: Kimber Rollin
Stafford Rosenbaum LLP
January 28, 2022
Via email
City of Green Bay Ethics Board
c/o Attorney Michael May
Boardman & Clark LLP
1 South Pinckney Street, Suite 410
PO Box 927
Madison, WI 53701-0927
Re: Rollin Code of Conduct Complaint
To the City of Green Bay Ethics Board,
On behalf of Mayor Genrich, thank you for giving our client an opportunity to provide this reply in
support of the jurisdicational arguments raised in our December 9, 2021 letter. As explained below,
Complainant Kimber Rollin’s (“Rollin”) Response to those arguments, submitted on January 18, 2022,
failed to address the jurisdictional defects that doom her original Complaint. Because those fatal defects
persist, the Complaint should be dismissed.
To be clear, not only is Rollin’s Complaint deficient under the City of Green Bay Code of Conduct (the
“Code”), it is also based on blatant falshehoods and borderline slanderous accusations. Thanks to the
dedication and work of countless city employees, poll workers, and volunteers, the 2020 General
Election was administed in full compliance with the law and in accordance with the ethical principles
applicable to the Mayor and all city officials.
Apart from the many courts and administrative agencies which have unanimously rejected the
allegations rehashed in Rollin’s Complaint, on May 4, 2021, the Common Council adopted a resolution
expressing full confidence in the City’s administration of the August and November 2020 Elections. That
resolution noted that decisions about the elections were made publicly and approved by the Common
Council, and it rejected allegations of impropriety. Similarly, the City Attorney prepared an exhaustive
report1 for the Common Council, finding “no issues affecting the integrity of the election.” Under intense
scrutiny and in the midst of a pandemic, the City of Green Bay fulfilled its obligation to the people who
live and vote in this community. While the jurisdictional problems with Rollin’s Complaint require
dismissal, the Mayor nonetheless wishes to reiterate his pride in how the City conducted the 2020
General Election.
1 Available at https://greenbaywi.gov/DocumentCenter/View/6657
1. The Complaint is Not Timely
Rollin does not attempt to argue that she filed her Complaint within a year of the alleged events. Rather,
Rollin claims that some of her Complaint2 should nonetheless be allowed because she did not “discover”
the alleged violations until later. Rollin and Mayor Genrich agree that the Code’s timeliness rule is best
analogized to Wisconsin’s “discovery rule.” (Rollin Resp., pp. 2-3) (internal citations omitted). That’s
where Rollin’s argument falls apart, however, as she neither demonstrates any reasonable diligence nor
responds to the arguments raised by Mayor Genrich.
As Rollin points out in her Response, a party can rely on the discovery rule only if they have exercised
reasonable diligence. (Rollin Resp., p. 3). A party seeking to rely on the discovery rule bears the burden
of demonstrating that, “the delay in their discovery of the claim was reasonable.” Christ v. Exxon Mobil
Corp., 2015 WI 58, ¶66, 362 Wis. 2d 668, 866 N.W.2d 602. Parties “may not close their eyes to means of
information reasonably accessible to them and must in good faith apply their attention to those
particulars which may be inferred to be within their reach.” Spitler v. Dean, 148 Wis. 2d 630, 638, 436
N.W.2d 308 (1989).
In the Response, Rollin asserts that she discovered the facts alleged in the Complaint on or after March
12, 2021 – the date that the City of Green Bay published its responses to election-related open records
requests on its website. (Rollin Resp., pp. 3-4). That is insufficient to show that Rollin exercised any
diligence, let alone the degree of diligence required by Wisconsin law. Despite this being one the most
closely-watched elections in recent history, and despite the existence of pre-election litigation and media
reports, Rollin does not describe any efforts she undertook to find more information, other than to
passively wait for the City of Green Bay to provide documents to her. Despite arguing that reasonable
diligence is a “question of fact,” Rollin made no showing of what she did to meet that standard – for
example, by requesting documents, making inquiries, or reading news reports - and therefore has not
met her burden.
Even if the Board were willing to engage with Rollin’s reasonable-diligence argument, it fails on its face.
Having abandoned her claims regarding pre-election activity, Rollin’s Response largely discusses
allegations surrounding activity on election day, November 3, 2020. The facts Rollin cites, however,
underscore that her Complaint was not timely. Rollin recites second-hand accounts of what allegedly
occurred at Central Count on November 3, 2020. (Rollin Resp., pp. 3-5). It is not the case that this
information was outside Rollin’s grasp until March 12, 2021. As required by law, and as confirmed by
the Observer Log, Central Count was open for observation on election day. Wis. Stat. § 7.41. Even if
Rollin was not willing or able to appear as an observer at Central Count, the City of Green Bay
livestreamed the entire proceeding. Similarly, information regarding Michael Spitzer-Rubenstein was
2 Rollin makes no effort to argue that the portions of the Complaint alleging events that occurred in June and July of 2021 were
timely.
available long before November 3, 2020. In the City Attorney’s April 21, 2021 Memorandum, City
Attorney Chavez pointed out that the National Vote at Home Institute began offering best-practice
assistance in Wisconsin in the late spring of 2020. Mr. Spitzer-Rubenstein began offering support to the
City of Green Bay in mid-August. Mr. Spitzer-Rubenstein maintains a public LinkedIn profile that
identifies him as a resident of New York3.
Mayor Genrich addressed many of these facts – that Central Count was open to the public; that the
activities there were livestreamed; that many of the allegations raised in Rollin’s Complaint were the
subject of pre-election litigation and media reports – in his December 9, 2021 letter brief. Ms. Rollin
chose not to respond to those facts, which amounts to a concession. Charolais Breeding Ranches, Ltd. v.
FPC Sec. Corp., 90 Wis. 2d 97, 109, 279 N.W.2d 493 (Ct. App. 1979). In any event, the fact that the whole
proceeding was public is fatal to Rollin’s reasonable-diligence argument. Reasonable diligence is absent
“when another method of investigation probably would have discovered the defendants' identity
sooner.” Jacobs v. Nor-Lake, Inc., 217 Wis. 2d 625, 635, 579 N.W.2d 254 (Ct. App. 1998). Rollin had every
opportunity to observe Central Count, which was run by an employee of the City Clerk and comported in
every way with the legal and ethical requirements for election administration in Wisconsin and in the
City of Green Bay. Rollin chose not to do so, and then she waited too long to file this Complaint, in
violation of the procedure set forth in the City of Green Bay Code of Conduct. City of Green Bay Code of
Conduct, § 8.B. It should be dismissed as untimely.
2. Rollin’s Complaint Does Not Allege a Violation of the Code
The Code unambiguously requires that a Complaint include the following:
(1) The complainant’s name, address and contact information;
(2) The name and position of the City official who is the subject of the complaint;
(3) The nature of the alleged violation, including the specific provision of the Code allegedly
violated; and
(4) A statement of the facts constituting the alleged violation and the dates on which, or period of
time during which, the alleged violation occurred.
City of Green Bay Code of Conduct, § 8.A (emphasis added). Rollin does not seem to dispute that her
November 4 Complaint did not meet this requirement. Instead, her Response generally references two
different sections of the Code – Sections 3 and 4 – which Rollin did not reference or cite in the Complaint.
Apart from being even more untimely, these new, unsworn allegations provide no information to the
Board about the nature of Rollin’s complaint. Rollin again fails to identify the specific provision of the
Code allegedly violated or what facts she believes support those assertions. Instead, she describes
Sections 3 and 4 in generalities, followed by a list of factual misstatements. Both Sections 3 and 4 contain
3 https://www.linkedin.com/in/mspitzerrubenstein/
actual provisions regarding ethical conduct in the City of Green Bay. City of Green Bay Code of Conduct,
§§ 3.A – 3.D; 4.A – 4.D (i.e., provisions requiring elected officials to refer to staff by their title followed by
last name in public meetings; prohibiting elected officials from attempting to unethically influence
purchasing decisions; and requiring elected officials to be fair and equitable in allocating public hearing
time). Apart from being baseless, Rollin’s new allegations are also unsworn, untimely, and do not follow
the procedure required by the Code.
This appears to be an attempt to fix the major problem with the Complaint – it is an effort to relitigate
before this Board various theories about the 2020 General Election that have already been debunked
elsewhere. Rollin again cites Chapter 7 of the Wisconsin Statutes, which is outside the Code and is
instead administered by the Wisconsin Elections Commission. (Rollin Resp., p. 6).
Finally, a significant number of the new factual allegations in Rollin’s Response involve Mr. Spitzer-
Rubenstein. (Rollin Resp., pp. 3-6). Mr. Spitzer-Rubenstein is not and has never been an elected official
subject to the Code. City of Green Bay Code of Conduct, § 8.A.
3. Rollin’s Complaint Did Not Meet the Requirements of Section 8.B of the Code
Rollin simply did not respond to the Mayor’s argument that her Complaint fails to meet the
requirements of Section 8.B of the Code because it includes no information identifying documents
and/or witnesses relevant to the allegations. Here, too, Rollin’s failure to respond constitutes a
concession. Charolais Breeding, 90 Wis. 2d at 109.
Rollin’s Response attaches and references a number of publicly available documents and affidavits. If
Rollin sought to rely on these documents, the Code required her to attach them to, or at minimum to
identify them in, her Complaint. City of Green Bay Code of Conduct, § 8.A. Moreover, the information
Rollin has now provided does nothing to support her allegations The affidavit of Andrea Johnson does
not mention Mayor Genrich at all, and it confirms that an employee of the City Clerk ran Central Count.
(Johnson Aff., ¶ 26). The affidavit of Elizabeth Rankin and the declaration of Andrew Kloster similarly
have little to do with Mayor Genrich’s conduct, and neither does anything to support the allegations
contained in the Complaint. Even if these documents were credible (and they are not), they do nothing to
cure the original deficiency or avoid the necessity for dismissal.
4. Carlstedt et al. v. Wisconsin Elections Commission
Rollin states, correctly, that on January 6, 2022, after Mayor Genrich’s December 9, 2021 letter to the
Board, several individuals filed in the Circuit Court for Brown County an appeal from the decision of the
Wisconsin Elections Commission decision in Carlstedt et al. v. Wolfe et al. That matter remains pending
before the Circuit Court.
The Wisconsin Elections Commission decision, which is the subject of the appeal and referenced in Mayor
Genrich’s December 9 letter, found no probable cause to believe that any respondent, including Mayor
Genrich, violated the law or committed an abuse of discretion in connection with the City’s receipt or use
of grants during the 2020 General Election. The decision also noted that there was a prior complaint filed
against Mayor Genrich in 2020, which was also dismissed for lack of probable cause.
5. Requests for Recusal
As part of her Response, Rollin has requested that Board members Cheryl A. Renier-Wigg and Alder Bill
Galvin be recused from this matter, and she seems to reserve the possibility of requesting further
recusals.
Mayor Genrich has not requested the recusal of any member, and he defers to the decisions of the Board
and its members. The Mayor denies without qualification Rollin’s accusations that he has or would
improperly influence the Board or its members.
On behalf of Mayor Genrich, we look forward to appearing before the Board in February. If we can
provide any additional information to the Board before that time, please contact me at
dlenz@lawforward.org or at 608-556-9120.
Thank you
Electronically signed by Daniel S. Lenz
Daniel S. Lenz
Staff Counsel
Law Forward, Inc.
CC: Kimber Rollin
Stafford Rosenbaum LLP
Direct line: 608-252-9326
Email: jpa@dewittllp.com
December 8, 2021
VIA EMAIL: kaardal@mklaw.com
Erick G. Kaardal, Esq.
Mohrman, Kaardal & Erickson, P.A.
150 South Fifth Street, Suite 3100
Minneapolis, MN 55402
RE: In the Matter of Carlstedt, et al. v. Wolfe
Case No. EL 21-24
Dear Mr. Kaardal:
As you know, the law firm of DeWitt LLP (“DeWitt”) is retained as special counsel for the
Wisconsin Elections Commission (“Commission”) with respect to the above-referenced matter.
This letter is in response to the Complaint, dated April 8, 2021, which you submitted to the
Commission on behalf of your clients, Richard Carlstedt, Sandra Duckett, James Fitzgerald,
Thomas Sladek, and Lark Wartenberg (collectively, the “Complainants”).
Procedural History
The Complaint, brought pursuant to Wis. Stat. § 5.06, is filed against Meagan Wolfe,
Administrator of the Commission; Eric Genrich, Mayor of the City of Green Bay; Celestine
Jeffreys, the former Chief of Staff for the Green Bay Mayor and current Clerk for the City of Green
Bay; and Kris Teske, the former Clerk for the City of Green Bay. Complainants accompanied the
Complaint with an Appendix of nearly 400 pages.
By email to all parties dated May 15, 2021, DeWitt established a deadline of June 15, 2021 for
Respondents to respond to the Complaint. On June 15, 2021, Respondents Genrich and Jeffreys
filed a joint Answer (“Answer”) and supporting Affidavit of Vanessa R. Chavez, Respondent
Teske filed a response, the City Attorney for the City of Green filed a separate Motion to Dismiss
Respondent Teske, and Respondent Wolfe filed both a Response and a Motion to Dismiss All
Claims Against Her, along with a supporting brief.
By email dated June 23, 2021, DeWitt established a deadline of July 28, 2021 for Complainants to
reply. On July 28, 2021, Complainants filed a single Memorandum of Law and Appendix in the
above-referenced matter and four others (Case Nos. EL 21-29, 21-30, 21-31, and 21-33).
Respondents Genrich and Jeffreys objected to the combined Memorandum of Law and Appendix
by letter dated August 9, 2021. By email dated August 12, 2021, DeWitt notified all parties that
Complainants’ combined Memorandum of Law and Appendix were not accepted and were to be
considered stricken from the record in this matter. DeWitt permitted Complainants to file a
separate reply for this matter by August 19, 2021.
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On August 19, 2021, Complainants filed a separate Reply in the above-referenced matter, along
with a lengthy Appendix of 1077 pages. Respondents Genrich and Jeffreys again objected to the
Reply by letter dated August 24, 2021, arguing that the Reply incorporated new facts and issues
not raised in the initial Complaint. By email dated August 30, 2021, DeWitt granted Respondents
the opportunity to file a sur-reply brief no later than September 13, 2021, which deadline DeWitt
later extended to September 27, 2021 by email dated September 9, 2021. Respondents Genrich
and Jeffreys filed a sur-reply brief on September 27, 2021. Also on September 27, 2021,
Respondent Wolfe filed a reply brief in support of her motion to dismiss.
The Commission has reviewed the above-identified Complaint; Respondents’ various responses,
answers, and motions; Complainants’ Reply; and Respondents’ various sur-reply and reply briefs.
The Commission provides the following analysis and decision pursuant to Wis. Stat. § 5.06 and
the Delegation of Authority adopted by the Commission in 2018 and most recently amended on
February 27, 2020.
In short, the Commission finds that Complainants did not show probable cause to believe that a
violation of law or abuse of discretion occurred with regard to the claims asserted in the Complaint.
Complainants’ Allegations
The Complaint states that Complainants are all Wisconsin electors residing in Green Bay,
Wisconsin. Complaint, ¶¶ 1-5. No respondent has provided any evidence to contest
Complainants’ residency.
Complainants allege that, beginning in May and June 2020, “the City of Green Bay adopted private
corporation conditions on the election process affecting state and federal elections.” Complaint,
p. 2. Specifically, Complainants object to the City of Green Bay’s acceptance of private grants
provided by the Center for Tech and Civic Life (“CTCL”), a private non-profit organization
headquartered in Chicago, Illinois. Complaint, ¶ 18. The Complaint alleges that the CTCL grant
money was issued pursuant to a grant application referred to as the “Wisconsin Safe Voting Plan”
(“WSVP”). Complaint, ¶¶ 25, 28. The Complaint alleges that CTCL money was accepted by the
City of Green Bay, the City of Racine, the City of Kenosha, the City of Milwaukee, and the City
of Madison. Complaint, ¶¶ 25-26, 28. The Complaint refers to these five municipalities as the
“WI-5” or “Wisconsin Five.” Complaint, ¶ 32.
By accepting the CTCL grant money and working with CTCL representatives, Complainants
allege that “Green Bay failed to comply with state laws, including obtaining from the Commission
a prior determination of the legality of the private corporate conditions in the election process, and
failed to comply with the U.S. Constitution’s Elections and Electors Clauses which guarantee the
state Legislature the exclusive role in approving Wisconsin’s legal conditions relating to federal
elections.” Complaint, p. 3. See also Complaint, ¶¶ 102-108. Complainants argue that the
acceptance of the private grant funds led to “the ubiquitous involvement of private corporations in
the Wisconsin 5 cities’ election administration prior to, during and after the election,” for which
the City of Green Bay, Complainants assert, had no legal authority. Reply, pp. 3-5.
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Complainants also argue that the acceptance of the CTCL grant money by the “Wisconsin Five”
“affected [Complainants] as a demographic group.” Complaint, ¶ 46 (“[W]ith the added private
conditions on Green Bay’s election process, the Green Bay Complainants were within a
jurisdictional boundary that affected them as a demographic group.”). See also Complaint ¶ 47
(“[B]y the Wisconsin Five cities contracting with CTCL and allied private corporations, the
Wisconsin Five cities chose to favor the Wisconsin Five’s demographic groups of urban voters
over all other voters in the State of Wisconsin.”). In their reply, Complainants went further with
this assertion, arguing that “[t]he Wisconsin 5 cities’ WSVP provisions violate the Equal
Protection Clause because it contains contract provisions picking and choosing among groups of
similarly situated voters for improved in-person and absentee voting access.” Reply, p. 4.
With respect to Respondent Wolfe, the Complaint alleges that “WEC Administrator Meagan
Wolfe … has supported the Wisconsin Five cities’ claimed prerogative to adopt private corporate
conditions on federal elections without approval by Congress, the state legislature and the
Commission.” Complaint, ¶ 100. The Complaint generally cites testimony Respondent Wolfe
gave on March 31, 2021 before the General Assembly’s Campaigns and Elections Committee
(although Complainants do not provide any specific quotations from such testimony). In their
Reply, Complainants take the position that Respondent Wolfe’s “testimony confirms an admission
of issuing an unwarranted advisory opinion on a disputed claims when the Commission itself has
that sole authority.” Reply, p. 87.
The Complaint seeks six essential forms of relief:
Complainants first request that the Commission “investigate the circumstances and factual
allegations asserted in this Complaint regarding the legality of Green Bay’s acts and actions
juxtaposed against state and federal election laws to ascertain whether those election laws
were violated.” Complaint, pp. 4, 31.
Complainants also ask that the Commission “issue an order requiring the Administrator,
City of Green Bay and its City Clerk to conform their conduct to Wisconsin Statutes and
the Election and Electors Clauses, restrain themselves from taking any action inconsistent
with Wisconsin Statutes and the Election and Electors Clauses and require them to correct
their actions and decisions inconsistent with Wisconsin Statutes and the Election and
Electors Clauses—including prohibiting the placement of private corporate conditions on
state and federal elections and the involvement of private corporation and their employees
in election administration.” Complaint, p. 32.
Complainants request that the “Commission … issue an order declaring that Green Bay’s
private conditions on federal elections and engagement of private corporations and their
employees in election administration violated state law and federal law.” Complaint, p. 32.
See also Complaint, p. 4.
Complainants argue that the Commission should “reiterate that the Administrator may not
render a decision without the approval of the Commission related to the legality of any
agreement between private corporate entities and municipalities related to imposing private
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corporate conditions on its elections or related to private corporations and their employees
being engaged in the administration of election laws.” Complaint, pp. 32-33, 4.
Complainants ask that the Commission consider “direct[ing] to the proper local or state
authorities” “any further prosecutorial investigation.” Complaint, pp. 33, 4.
“Finally, if the Commission determines that election laws were violated or that the law is
unclear to provide the Commission itself with the ability to determine the legalities of
private corporate conditions directly or indirectly affecting the election process and
administration,” Complainants ask that “the Commission … make recommendations to the
State Legislature for changes to state election laws to ensure the future integrity of the
election process.” Complaint, pp. 4-5, 33.
Respondents’ Asserted Defenses to Complaint
None of Respondents dispute the essential fact that the City of Green Bay accepted and received
the CTCL grant money.
Respondents Genrich and Jeffreys assert several defenses to the Complaint, including the
following:
“Complainants fail to point to any law which prohibits the City’s acceptance of outside
funds in order to provide a safer voting experience for its electorate, or even any law they
claim was violated.” Answer, p. 2. Respondents Genrich and Jeffreys argue that “[t]he
Legislature has acknowledged that current law includes no such provision [prohibiting
municipalities from using private grant funds] by its ongoing attempts to enact such a law.”
Answer, p. 2 (citing 2021 Wis. S.B. 207 and 2021 Wis. A.B. 173).
“[T]he CTCL grants were issued to municipalities without regard to the partisan make-up
of their electorates. In fact, the City was one of 218 municipalities in Wisconsin to receive
grant funds from CTCL.” Answer, p. 3. Complainants do not contest this fact, although,
in their reply, they cite reports from two non-profit organizations contending that “large
cities” received the majority of CTCL funds. See Reply, pp. 7-9.
“The Complaint is not timely.” Answer, p. 4. See also Answer, pp. 5-14.
The Complaint “does not set forth facts establishing probable cause to believe that a
violation of law has occurred.” Answer p. 4. See also Answer, pp. 14-16.
“Complainants seek to have the Commission do administratively that which is the sole
purview of the legislature: craft new election law.” Answer, p. 4. See also Answer, pp.
22-23; Sur-Reply, p. 10 (“Complainants[’] … true goal … is to have the Commission go
beyond its legislatively-created authority to investigate election law violations, and instead
create a policy that will apply to future elections. The Commission is an administrative,
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not legislative, body. The appropriate forum for Complainants’ requested policy changes
in therefore the legislature, not the Commission.”).
The City Attorney for the City of Green Bay further argues that Respondents Genrich, Jeffreys,
and Teske are not proper parties to the Complaint. This argument is presented as follows: “[A]ll
of Complainants’ legal arguments center around the acceptance of the CTCL grant funds and
approval of how those funds were to be used. Neither the Mayor, his Chief of Staff, nor the City
Clerk, in any of their professional capacities, had authority to accept the grant. The Common
Council took that action. The named Respondents are not synonymous with the entire City
government; they have specific roles within it, and those roles do not include authority to accept
the CTCL grant funds.” Answer, p. 15. See also Motion to Dismiss Respondent Teske.
In her Response to the Complaint, Respondent Wolfe admits that she gave legislative hearing
testimony before the General Assembly’s Campaigns and Elections Committee on
March 31, 2021. Response, p. 51. However, Respondent Wolfe asserts several defenses to the
Complaint, including the following:
Respondent Wolfe argues that the mere act of testifying before a legislative committee
cannot be unlawful. Brief in Support of Motion to Dismiss, p. 9 (citing Wis. Stat.
§ 13.35(1)).
Respondent Wolfe argues that her “legislative testimony on March 31, 2021 cannot
possibly have contributed to any illegality in the conduct of the 2020 Presidential election,
which had already taken place more than three months earlier.” Brief in Support of Motion
to Dismiss, p. 10 n.3.
Respondent Wolfe alleges that, in her legislative hearing testimony, she declined to
comment on the lawfulness of the municipalities’ actions, stating: “I cannot offer my
opinion or speculation on actions of individual municipalities. … It would be outside of
my statutory or delegated authority to determine if a municipality has acted lawfully.”
Brief in Support of Motion to Dismiss, p. 10 n.3. Complainants did not contest the accuracy
of this quotation.
Respondent Wolfe alleges that she “did not make any determinations as to (1) the legality
of actions or communications by municipal officials related to municipal acceptance or use
of private grant funds; or (2) any relations between municipals officials and outside
consultants.” Response, p. 52.
Respondent Wolfe denies “that she has engaged in, supported, or endorsed any activities
contrary to federal law, state law, or directives of the Commission.” Response, p. 56. She
asserts that, despite Complainants’ allegations that she “publicly supported” the decision
to accept grant funding (Complaint, p. 2 and ¶ 100), Complainants failed to back their
assertions with actual facts: “[T]he Complaints do not identify any actual actions through
which she purportedly provided such public support, other than legislative committee
testimony that she gave almost five months after the 2020 election had taken place, and
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even longer after the municipalities had received and used the funds in question. Nor do
they allege any facts concerning any non-public actions by the Administrator.” Reply Brief
in Support of Motion to Dismiss, p. 3.
Commission Authority and Role in Resolving Complaints Under Wis. Stat. § 5.06
The Commission’s role in resolving complaints filed under Wis. Stat. § 5.06 is to determine whether
an election official acted contrary to applicable election laws or abused their discretion in
administering applicable election laws. See Wis. Stat. § 5.06(1) (“Whenever any elector of a
jurisdiction or district served by an election official believes that a decision or action of the official or
the failure of the official to act … is contrary to law, or the official has abused the discretion vested
in him or her by law …, the elector may file a written sworn complaint with the commission….”).
The Commission has the inherent, general, and specific authority to consider the submissions of the
parties to a complaint and summarily decide the issues raised. See Wis. Stat. § 5.06(6) (“The
commission may, after such investigation as it deems appropriate, summarily decide the matter before
it….”).
Here, the essential fact underlying all of Complainants’ allegations – the City of Green Bay’s
acceptance of CTCL grant funds – is undisputed. As described below, the Commission concludes
that this essential fact fails to give rise to probable cause to find that Respondents committed a
violation of law or abuse of discretion. Therefore, the Commission issues this letter, which serves as
the Commission’s final decision regarding the issues raised in the Complaint.
Commission Findings
A. There Is No Probable Cause To Find That Respondents Committed A Violation Of
Law Or An Abuse Of Discretion.
Under Wis. Stat. § 5.06(1), a “complaint shall set forth such facts as are within the knowledge of
the complainant to show probable cause to believe that a violation of law or abuse of discretion
has occurred or will occur.” Probable cause is defined in Wis. Admin. Code EL § 20.02(4) to
mean “the facts and reasonable inferences that together are sufficient to justify a reasonable,
prudent person, acting with caution, to believe that the matter asserted is probably true.”
“Information which may establish probable cause includes allegations that set forth which persons
are involved; what those persons are alleged to have done; where the activity is believed to have
occurred; when the activity is alleged to have occurred and who are the witnesses to the events.”
Wis. Admin. Code EL § 20.03(3).
Complainants, therefore, have the obligation to set forth sufficient facts to show probable cause to
believe that Respondents Genrich, Jeffreys, and Teske committed a violation of law or abuse of
discretion as a result of the City of Green Bay’s acceptance of CTCL grant money, which allegedly
resulted in the adoption of “private corporation conditions on the election process” and the
“involvement of private corporations in … election administration.”
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Complainants also have the obligation to set forth sufficient facts to show probable cause to believe
that Respondent Wolfe committed a violation of law or abuse of discretion as a result of allegedly
supporting “the Wisconsin Five cities’ claimed prerogative to adopt private corporate conditions.”
The Commission concludes that Complainants have not set forth sufficient facts to show probable
cause as required under Wis. Stat. § 5.06(1), for the reasons discussed below.
i. The Acceptance of Private Grant Money, With Or Without Conditions And
Consultant Involvement, Is Not Prohibited By Any Law The Commission
Administers.
This is not the first complaint the Commission has received related to the CTCL grant money. On
August 28, 2020, another complaint was filed in Case No. 20-18 asserting that several respondents
(including Eric Genrich and Kris Teske, who are Respondents in this action) acted contrary to law
and/or abused their discretion as a result of acceptance of the CTCL money. The Commission
concluded, in part, that the complaint did not state probable cause because “the complaint does not
allege any violations of election law that the Commission has authority over to enforce or
investigate.”
The Commission has “the responsibility for the administration of chs. 5 to 10 and 12 and other laws
relating to elections and election campaigns, other than laws relating to campaign financing.” Wis.
Stat. § 5.05(1). See also Wis. Stat. § 5.05(2w). A complaint under Wis. Stat. § 5.06(1) must therefore
assert a violation of one of these chapters of the Wisconsin Statutes, or “other laws relating to elections
and election campaigns.”
The Complaint in this matter cites Wis. Stat. § 7.15(1), the Elections Clause of the United States
Constitution, and the Electors Clause of the United States Constitution as the basis for
Complainants’ action. In their Reply, Complainants also referenced the Equal Protection Clause.
Respondents argue that none of these statutory or constitutional provisions explicitly prohibit the
acceptance of private grant monies or the use of outside consultants. Respondents are correct.
Wis. Stat. § 7.15(1) states that municipal clerks have “charge and supervision of elections and
registration in [each] municipality.” The municipal clerk “shall perform” certain duties specified in
subsections (a) through (k) of the statute, as well as “any others which may be necessary to properly
conduct elections or registration.” Wis. Stat. § 7.15(1). There is no language in section 7.15(1) that
prohibits municipal clerks from using private grant money or working with outside consultants in the
performance of their duties.
The Elections Clause of the U.S. Constitution states as follows:
The Times, Places and Manner of holding Elections for Senators and Representatives, shall
be prescribed in each State by the Legislature thereof; but the Congress may at any time by
Law make or alter such Regulations, except as to the Places of chusing Senators.
U.S. Const., art. I, § 4, cl. 1 (cited at Complaint, ¶ 13).
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The Electors Clause of the U.S. Constitution provides:
Each State shall appoint, in such Manner as the Legislature thereof may direct, a Number
of Electors, equal to the whole Number of Senators and Representatives to which the State
may be entitled in the Congress.
U.S. Const., art. II, § 1, cl. 2 (cited at Complaint, ¶ 14).
Complainants argue that the Elections and Electors Clauses “provide no power to municipal
governments to adopt private corporate conditions on federal elections or to introduce private
corporations and their employees into federal election administration.” Complaint, ¶ 15.
However, Complainants do not show that either the Elections Clause or the Electors Clause of the
U.S. Constitution prohibit the adoption of private corporate conditions or the introduction of
private corporation employees into the election process.
As Respondents Genrich and Jeffreys note in their Response, two bills introduced in March 2021
demonstrate the absence, in existing law, of any prohibition on the acceptance of private grant
money or the use of outside consultants. 2021 Senate Bill 207 and 2021 Assembly Bill 173 would
prohibit any official from “apply[ing] for or accept[ing] any donation or grant of private resources”
(including “moneys, equipment, materials, or personnel provided by any individual or
nongovernmental entity”) “for purposes of election administration.” The bill would also prohibit
the appointment of any poll worker who is an employee of an “issue advocacy group.” This
language is not currently in any Wisconsin statute; nor was it in the lead up to the November 2020
election.
Furthermore, a number of courts around the country have remarked upon whether the
U.S. Constitution or federal election law prohibits the activities to which Complainants are
objecting in this action. These courts have not found such prohibitions in the U.S. Constitution or
federal laws.
For example, the United States District Court for the Eastern District of Wisconsin previously
concluded that a group of plaintiffs (represented by the same attorney as is currently representing
Complainants in this matter) failed to show a reasonable likelihood of success on the merits of a
claim based upon similar allegations. In Wisconsin Voters Alliance v. City of Racine, No. 20-C-
1487, 2020 WL 6129510 (E.D. Wis. Oct. 14, 2020), the plaintiffs alleged that various cities
(including the City of Green Bay) were prohibited from accepting and using private federal
election grants by, among other things, the Elections Clause of the U.S. Constitution. The court
declined to grant a temporary restraining order, stating:
Plaintiffs have presented at most a policy argument for prohibiting municipalities from
accepting funds from private parties to help pay the increased costs of conducting safe and
efficient elections. The risk of skewing an election by providing additional private funding
for conducting the election in certain areas of the State may be real. The record before the
Court, however, does not provide the support needed for the Court to make such a
determination, especially in light of the fact that over 100 additional Wisconsin
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municipalities received grants as well. Plaintiffs argue that the receipt of private funds for
public elections also gives an appearance of impropriety. This may be true, as well. These
are all matters that may merit a legislative response but the Court finds nothing in the
statutes Plaintiffs cite, either directly or indirectly, that can be fairly construed as
prohibiting the defendant Cities from accepting funds from CTCL. Absent such a
prohibition, the Court lacks the authority to enjoin them from accepting such assistance.
2020 WL 6129510, at *2, appeal dismissed sub nom. Wisconsin Voters All. v. City of Racine, No.
20-3002, 2020 WL 9254456 (7th Cir. Nov. 6, 2020) (emphasis added) (internal citations omitted).
Other courts have likewise concluded that no language in the U.S. Constitution or other election-
related laws prohibits municipalities from accepting private grant money. See Election Integrity
Fund v. City of Lansing, No. 1:20-CV-950, 2020 WL 6605985, at *1 (W.D. Mich. Oct. 2, 2020)
(“Plaintiffs’ complaint and motion allege that the Cities’ receipt of grants from CTCL violates the
Constitution, the Help America Vote Act, 52 U.S.C. § 20901, et seq., and the National Voters
Registration Act, 52 U.S.C. § 20501, et seq. But Plaintiffs never identify language in any of those
laws that explicitly prohibits cities from accepting private grants to administer elections. On the
Court's review, no such explicit prohibition exists.”) (denying motion for temporary restraining
order); Iowa Voter All. v. Black Hawk Cty., No. C20-2078-LTS, 2020 WL 6151559, at *3-4 (N.D.
Iowa Oct. 20, 2020) (“Plaintiffs have not provided any authority, nor have I found any, suggesting
that the Elections Clause imposes specific limits or restrictions as to how a federal election must
be funded. … There may be valid policy reasons to restrict or regulate the use of private grants to
fund elections. However, it is for Congress and/or the Iowa Legislature, not the judicial branch, to
make those policy judgments.”); Georgia Voter All. v. Fulton Cty., 499 F. Supp. 3d 1250, 1255
(N.D. Ga. 2020) (“Fulton County's acceptance of private funds, standing alone, does not impede
Georgia's duty to prescribe the time, place, and manner of elections, and Plaintiffs cite no authority
to the contrary.”).
The Commission is persuaded by the case law cited above. Complainants have failed to identify
any existing state or federal law prohibiting the acceptance of the CTCL grant money or work with
outside consultants. Multiple federal courts have failed to find that existing law prohibits such
activities, and the Commission likewise does not find such a prohibition to exist.
Unable to cite an explicit prohibition in existing law, Complainants attempt to save their claims
with a different argument. Citing Trump v. Wisconsin Elections Commission (“Trump v. WEC”),
983 F.3d 919, 927 (7th Cir. 2020), Complainants argue that Respondents violated the Electors
Clause by committing a “diversion of … election law authority” when they accepted the CTCL
grant money. See Complaint, ¶¶ 106-107. However, this citation works against Complainants,
not for them.
The Trump v. WEC case concerned contested guidance issued by the Commission prior to the
election. In its decision, the United States Court of Appeals for the Seventh Circuit examined the
scope of the Electors Clause. “By its terms,” the court noted, “the Clause could be read as
addressing only the manner of appointing electors and thus nothing about the law that governs the
administration of an election (polling place operations, voting procedures, vote tallying, and the
like).” 983 F.3d at 926. The court acknowledged, however, that the Electors Clause has been
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applied more broadly in some instances to “encompass[] acts necessarily antecedent and subsidiary
to the method for appointing electors—in short, Wisconsin's conduct of its general election.” Id.
As examples of the Electors Clause being applied broadly, the court cited both Bush v. Gore, 531
U.S. 98 (2000) and Carson v. Simon, 978 F.3d 1051 (8th Cir. 2020). In those two cases, courts
found violations of the Electors Clause where state actors invaded the province of the legislature
without being granted such authority by the legislature.
In Bush v. Gore, for example, three Justices were critical of a departure from the legislative scheme
put in place by the Florida legislature, finding that it violated “a respect for the constitutionally
prescribed role of state legislatures.” 531 U.S. at 115 (Rehnquist, C.J., concurring) (emphasis
original). In Carson, the Eighth Circuit concluded that the Minnesota Secretary of State likely
violated the Electors Clause by adding a week to the deadline for receipt of absentee ballots. The
court remarked that “only the Minnesota Legislature, and not the Secretary, has plenary authority
to establish the manner of conducting the presidential election in Minnesota. … Thus, the
Secretary's attempt to re-write the laws governing the deadlines for mail-in ballots in the 2020
Minnesota presidential election is invalid.” 978 F.3d at 1060.
This line of authority does not support Complainants’ position because it is distinguishable from
the circumstances now before the Commission. The Seventh Circuit explains the distinction in
Trump v. WEC. The court remarked that – unlike in Bush v. Gore or Carson – the Commission
had taken actions “under color of authority expressly granted to it by the Legislature.” 983 F.3d
at 927. Accordingly, “even on a broad reading of the Electors clause,” the court could not find
that the Commission acted unlawfully. Id. The “authority expressly granted to [The Commission]
by the Legislature … is not diminished by allegations that the Commission erred in its exercise.”
Id.
Here, as in Trump v. WEC, the acceptance and use of CTCL funds was done “under color of
authority expressly granted … by the Legislature” for the charge and supervision of elections under
Wis. Stat. § 7.15(1). Even if there were errors in the exercise of that authority, those errors do not
diminish the authority and do not give rise to a violation of the Electors Clause.
Finally, Complainants attempt to assert a violation of the Equal Protection Clause. However,
courts around the country considering similar claims have cast aspersions on the argument that
acceptance of CTCL money results in a violation of equal protection law. A federal court in
Minnesota, for example, rejected that argument as follows:
The City's actions in applying for and accepting the CTCL grant and using the grant
money to improve all manners of voting in Minneapolis in the 2020 election affect all
Minneapolis voters equally. All individual Plaintiffs are Minneapolis voters. Plaintiffs
fail to explain how they will be uniquely affected by Minneapolis's actions. They assert
that, because Minneapolis voters are statistically more likely to be progressive,
Minneapolis's actions enhancing voting in general favor progressive voters and thereby
suppress Plaintiffs’ votes. However, as Minneapolis residents, Plaintiffs, themselves,
are equal recipients of Minneapolis's actions to make voting safer during the
pandemic. The City's grant-funded expenditures will make it easier for the individual
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Plaintiffs to vote safely for the candidates of their choosing and to have those ballots
processed promptly, no matter which method of casting a ballot they choose. Grant money
will be used to assist with mail-in voting; voting by absentee ballots via a secure drop box;
voting in person at early-voting sites; voting in-person on Election Day; and voter
education to assist voters in choosing how to vote.
Minnesota Voters All. v. City of Minneapolis, No. CV 20-2049 (MJD/TNL), 2020 WL 6119937,
at *7 (D. Minn. Oct. 16, 2020) (emphasis added).
Once again, the Commission finds this case law persuasive. Although use of the CTCL grant
money in Green Bay may have resulted in benefit to Green Bay voters over those outside of Green
Bay, and although voters within Green Bay may have the tendency to favor a particular political
party over another, that does not constitute an equal protection violation. See Texas Voters All. v.
Dallas Cty., 495 F. Supp. 3d 441, 469 (E.D. Tex. 2020) (“Ultimately, Plaintiffs’ complain that
people with different political views will lawfully exercise their fundamental right to vote. That is
not a harm. That is democracy.”). This is particularly true where other municipalities were free to
seek the same grant money as did the City of Green Bay. In fact, it is undisputed that over 200
municipalities in Wisconsin received such funding.
In an attempt to bolster their equal protection argument in their Reply, Complainants point to
language in the WSVP to argue that the CTCL grant money was used to disproportionately benefit
certain voters from within the City of Green Bay, to the disadvantage of others. However, the
WSVP was, as Complainants state, merely the grant application. Complainants provide no facts
showing that the CTCL grant money was, in fact, used to disadvantage certain segments of the
electorate over others. Absent such facts, Complainants fail to raise probable cause of a potential
equal protection violation. As the Eastern District of Wisconsin stated when dismissing the
Wisconsin Voters Alliance suit:
Plaintiffs have offered only a political argument for prohibiting municipalities from
accepting money from private entities to assist in the funding of elections for public offices.
They do not challenge any specific expenditure of the money; only its source. They make
no argument that the municipalities that received the funds used them in an unlawful way
to favor partisan manner. Their brief is bereft of any legal argument that would support the
kind of relief they seek.
Wisconsin Voters All. v. City of Racine, No. 20-C-1487, 2021 WL 179166, at *3 (E.D. Wis. Jan. 19,
2021).
In the absence of existing state or federal law prohibiting the acceptance of private grant money or
the use of outside consultants, the Commission cannot find a violation of law or abuse of discretion
resulting from the CTCL grant money in the City of Green Bay. To do so would be to essentially
create new election law, which is the job of the legislature, not the Commission.
Complainants urge the Commission to act notwithstanding the absence of explicit legal authority,
asserting that “the Commission is not impotent” and has been provided by the legislature “with an
arsenal of weapons to exercise its powers and duties.” Reply, p. 48. Specifically, Complainants cite
the Commission’s statutory authority to administer laws, investigate, take testimony, bring civil
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actions, and sue for injunctive relief. Id. This is all true, but Complainants do not and cannot argue
that the Commission has the authority to create law. That is undeniably the province of the legislature.
For all of the above reasons, the Commission finds that there is no probable cause to believe that
the acceptance of CTCL grant money was itself or resulted in any violation of law or abuse of
discretion.
ii. There Is No Probable Cause To Find A Violation Or Abuse Of Discretion By
Respondent Wolfe.
Complainants also fail to state facts sufficient to raise probable cause to believe that Respondent
Wolfe committed a violation of law or abuse of discretion, for multiple reasons.
First, although Complainants assert that Respondent Wolfe supported the City of Green Bay’s
decision to accept the CTCL grant funding, Complainants fail to identify any specific action or
statement on the part of Respondent Wolfe in which she allegedly provided such support. The
Commission does not know with whom Respondent Wolfe allegedly communicated, what
Respondent Wolfe allegedly did, what Respondent Wolfe allegedly stated, or any of the context for
such details. Without such information, the Commission finds that “a reasonable, prudent person,
acting with caution” could not find that Respondent Wolfe violated the law or abused her discretion.
See Wis. Admin. Code EL § 20.02(4).
Second, the Commission rejects Complainants’ argument (asserted for the first time in their Reply)
that Respondent Wolfe issued an unauthorized advisory opinion. Again, Complainants fail to state
any actual facts underlying that assertion. Advisory opinions are governed by clear statutory
procedures set forth in Wis. Stat. § 5.05(6a)(a). Such opinions must be requested “in writing,
electronically, or by telephone” – and there is no allegation that such a request was made. Such
opinions must be “written or electronic” – and there is no allegation that Respondent Wolfe issued
any physical or electronic writing. Advisory opinions, “[t]o have legal force and effect,” must
“include a citation to each statute or other law and each case or common law authority upon which
the opinion is based” – and there is no allegation that Respondent Wolfe ever provided such citations.
Again, given Complainants’ allegations, the Commission finds that “a reasonable, prudent person,
acting with caution” could not find that Respondent Wolfe issued any unauthorized advisory opinions.
iii. The Commission Need Not Determine The Remaining Issues Raised By
Respondents.
In light of its conclusion that there is no probable cause to find that the acceptance of the CTCL
grant money violated election law or constituted an abuse of discretion, the Commission need not
address Respondents’ other defenses, including those concerning timeliness and whether the
Mayor, Chief of Staff, and former City Clerk are even proper parties to an action that relates to
grant money accepted by the Common Council of the City of Green Bay.
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Commission Decision
Based upon the above review and analysis, the Commission finds that the Complaint does not raise
probable cause to believe that a violation of law or abuse of discretion has occurred. All claims are
hereby dismissed. The Commission will not conduct its own investigation of the circumstances
and factual allegations asserted in the Complaint and will not issue an order with the declarations
Complainants have requested.
The Commission notes that Complainants also asked that the Commission direct “any further
prosecutorial investigation … to the proper local or state authorities” and “make recommendations
to the State Legislature for changes to state election laws.” Complaint, p. 33. The Commission
will not provide either of these forms of relief, both because Complainants failed to establish
probable cause and because they are not available forms of relief under Wis. Stat. § 5.06.
A party filing a complainant under Wis. Stat. § 5.06 may only request – and the Commission may
only order – that officials be required to conform their conduct to the law, be restrained from taking
action inconsistent with the law, or be required to correct any action or decision inconsistent with the
law or any abuse of their discretion. See Wis. Stat. § 5.06(1) and (6). Referring matters for
prosecution and making recommendation to the legislature are not options for relief under
section 5.06.
Right to Appeal – Circuit Court
This letter constitutes the Commission’s resolution of this complaint. Wis. Stat. § 5.06(2).
Pursuant to Wis. Stat. § 5.06(8), any aggrieved party may appeal this decision to circuit court no
later than 30 days after the issuance of this decision.
If any of the parties should have questions about this letter or the Commission’s decision, please
feel free to contact me.
Sincerely,
COMMISSION
By: Jon P. Axelrod
and Deborah C. Meiners
Special Counsel
JPA:sd
cc: Commission Members
Vanessa R. Chavez, Esq.
Lindsay J. Mather, Esq.
Thomas C. Bellavia, Esq.
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Steven C. Kilpatrick, Esq.
Ms. Kris Teske
Report to the
Ethics Board
of the City of Green Bay
MEETING DATE PREPARED BY
April 28, 2022
AGENDA ITEM # E.2
Schedule next Board meeting for discussion of revised ethics ordinance
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