Landmarks Commission

AGENDA OF THE LANDMARKS COMMISSION WEDNESDAY, JUNE 18, 2025, 4:30 PM City Hall, Room 604 - The Harry Maier Room. Virtual attendance is also available via Zoom. A. Zoom Meeting Information. 1. Join Zoom Meeting Online: https://us02web.zoom.us/j/89692538356?pwd=azA0c1hWd3kxaklncGJzRXJQUW5qZz09 Or call in by phone: +1 312 626 6799 Meeting ID: 896 9253 8356 Passcode: 973532 If you wish to speak at this public meeting or leave a comment, please fill out the online Comment Form prior to the meeting. More detailed Zoom Instructions can be found online. B. Roll Call. 1. Members: Chair Ron Dehn, Ald. Jim Hutchison, Stephen Srubas, Susan Ley, David Siegel, Rebecca Derenne, and Al Gonzalez Valentine. C. Approval of the Agenda. 1. Approval of the agenda for the Wednesday, June 18, 2025, meeting of the Landmarks Commission. D. Approval of Minutes. 1. Approval of the minutes from the May 21, 2025, meeting. E. Regular Business. 1. (COA 25-15) Consideration with possible action on a design review for a patio remodel located at 1108 S Monroe Avenue. Agenda of the Landmarks Commission June 18, 2025 Page 1  2. (COA 25-17) Consideration with possible action on a design review for a window replacement located at 1137 S Monroe Avenue. 3. (COA 25-18) Consideration with possible action on a design review for replacement garage siding located at 515 Cass Street. F. Informational. 1. Staff-level COA applications. 2. Staff update. 3. Next Meeting: July 16, 2025. G. Adjournment. 1. Adjournment for the Wednesday, June 18, 2025, meeting of the Landmarks Commission. 1) THIS MEETING IS RECORDED: THE VIDEO OF THIS MEETING AND MINUTES ARE AVAILABLE ONLINE AT www.greenbaywi.gov 2) ACCESSIBILITY: Any person wishing to attend who requires special accommodation because of a disability, should contact the City Safety Manager at 920-448-3125 at least 48 hours before the scheduled meeting time so that arrangements can be made. 3) QUORUM: Please take notice that a majority or quorum of the Common Council will attend this Landmarks Commission meeting and will constitute a meeting of the Common Council for purposes of discussion and information gathering relative to this agenda. 4) REPRESENTATION: The party requesting the communication, or their representative, should be present at this meeting. Agenda of the Landmarks Commission June 18, 2025 Page 2  Report to the Landmarks Commission of the City of Green Bay MEETING DATE PREPARED BY June 18, 2025 AGENDA ITEM # D.1 Approval of the minutes from the May 21, 2025, meeting. BACKGROUND RECOMMENDATION FISCAL IMPACT ATTACHMENTS None 100 North Jefferson Street, Green Bay, Wisconsin 54301-5026 greenbaywi.gov  Report to the Landmarks Commission of the City of Green Bay MEETING DATE PREPARED BY June 18, 2025 Jason Flatt, Staff AGENDA ITEM # E.1 (COA 25-15) Consideration with possible action on a design review for a patio remodel located at 1108 S Monroe Avenue. BACKGROUND 1108 S Monroe is a contributing property in the Astor NRHP Historic District, built circa 1900 with a rear addition (garage with living area above, circa 1965). The house maintains a relatively high degree of historic integrity, including integrity of location, design, setting, workmanship, feeling, association, and materials. This COA application proposes to install a retaining wall behind (northwest of) the garage and a paver patio on leveled ground behind that new retaining wall. The back yard (and patio area) is effectively not visible from the public right-of-way. There is no indication that the proposed work will have a permanent impact on the house itself. RECOMMENDATION LC staff recommends approval of the proposed patio area renovations. FISCAL IMPACT ATTACHMENTS 1. COA 25-15 Map 2. COA 25-15 Pictures 3. COA 25-15 patio layout 4. COA 25-15 Property Details, 1108 S Monroe 5. COA 25-15 Application 100 North Jefferson Street, Green Bay, Wisconsin 54301-5026 greenbaywi.gov  57 ST H AV RO E ON SM Brown County WI (COA 25-15) Rear Patio ± Feet 0 20 40 80 at 1108 S Monroe Avenue This is a compilation of records and data located in various City of Green Bay offices and is to be used for reference purposes only.The City of Green Bay is 1108 S Monroe Avenue not responsible for any inaccuracies or unauthorized use of the information contained within. No warranties are implied. Map prepared by City of Green Bay Department of Community and Economic Development. E.R. 100' Notification Area 11 Jun 2025 X:\Planning\Basemaps\template_8.5x11.mxd  Address: 1108 S Monroe St Parcel No.: 16‐74 WI AHI No.: 53197 Historic Name: Preston F. Thrall House Matthew Haws and Beth McCrory House Built: 1900 c. 1900 Historic Use: Architectural Style: American Foursquare Wall Material: clapboard Architect: National Register: 2/27/1980 State Register: 1/1/1989 Other: NRHP nomination link: http://focus.nps.gov/pdfhost/docs/NRHP/Text/80000107.pdf (district nomination) Notes: "This home was built from [sic] local shipbuilder and Great Lakes Captain Preston F. Thrall. The 'Thrall Steamship Company' built the largest wooden vessel ever constructed in the Green Bay shipyard. The celebration marking the launching of the ship 'Orion' is well documented in the Stiller Photo Collection' at the Neville Public Museum. Owner: Richard Jensen" ‐ per NRHP nomination "A site‐file exists for this property" ‐ WI AHI Stewardship: Character ‐ Overall form & fenestration. Side‐gabled with center front gable. Clapboard profile siding in 1st story (approx 4‐1/2" face) with corner boards. Clapboard profile siding in 2nd story (approx. 3" face) with mitred corners in 2nd story. Fancy cut shingles in gables (alternating, 3 rows octagon, 3 rows round ‐‐ with rows of square‐cut at bottom in way of top of 2nd story). Full‐width front porch with 4 Tuscan columns. Fancy window casings, front façade, 2nd story, with corbels leading to cornice/ eaves. Gothic palladian window in front gable, mimicking gothic arch inside gable. Colonial revival style with Queen Anne influence. Brick chimney. Features ‐ Original siding (clapboards, shingles, window casings, etc). Corbels. Many original windows (incl. oval in 2nd story, palladian in gable, and cut‐glass types). Cornice, eves, & associated moldings. Porch columns (& possibly balusters). Alterations ‐ Porch entry newels & balusters. Large addition at north‐west (rear) corner. Porch may have had steps at south end (note newels & balusters). Misc ‐ page 2 of 2  Report to the Landmarks Commission of the City of Green Bay MEETING DATE PREPARED BY June 18, 2025 Jason Flatt, Staff AGENDA ITEM # E.2 (COA 25-17) Consideration with possible action on a design review for a window replacement located at 1137 S Monroe Avenue. BACKGROUND 1137 S. Monroe is a contributing property in the Astor Historic District. This house is a relatively rare example of the International Style of architecture, presumed to have been built c. 1920. This house maintains a good degree of integrity (setting, association, and location), noting that there have been some changes that have impacted the integrity of materials, design, workmanship, and feeling. This request for COA calls for replacing the front picture window with a new, three-part picture window. Some of the more relevant portions of the Secretary of the Interior’s (SOI) Standards for Rehabilitation are as follows. 2. The historic character of a property shall be retained and preserved. The removal of historic materials or alteration of features and spaces that characterize a property shall be avoided. 4. Changes to a property that have acquired historic significance in their own right will be retained and preserved. 6. Deteriorated historic features shall be repaired rather than replaced. Where the severity of deterioration requires replacement of a distinctive feature, the new feature shall match the old in design, color, texture, and other visual qualities and, where possible, materials. Replacement of missing features shall be substantiated by documentary, physical, or pictorial evidence. 9. New additions, exterior alterations, or related new construction shall not destroy historic materials that characterize the property. The new work shall be differentiated from the old and shall be compatible with the massing, size, scale, and architectural features to protect the historic integrity of the property and its environment. Historic photos (pre-1990s) are not readily available for this house. Based on its architectural style, the front window opening likely had several multi-pane windows when first built (c. 1920) that were replaced by a large picture window in the decades that followed. A picture from 1996 shows a large picture window either with 27 individual panes (3 rows, 9 columns) or a simulated divided light (SDL) muntin detail dividing the single pane into 27 sections. The 1990s 27-pane look may have been inspired by earlier multi-pane windows, but the window shown in the 1990s and the window present today (possibly the same window minus the SDL muntin grid) do not reflect the original appearance of the house. With regard to the SOI Standards: 2. The existing window is not historic material and there is no indication that the size of the existing window opening will change. The proposed replacement window does not conflict with SOI Standard #2. 4. The current (old replacement) window has not acquired historic significance and does not need to be maintained to satisfy SOI Standards. 6. The current (old replacement) window is not a historic feature, whereas the size of the window opening is 100 North Jefferson Street, Green Bay, Wisconsin 54301-5026 greenbaywi.gov likely a historic feature. Considering the historic windows as a missing feature, the proposed replacement widow is not based on documentary, physical, or pictorial evidence, nor does it match the current window. In the absence of any evidence of the historic appearance of the front window(s), all that seems certain is that the proposed new window does not impact the integrity of this house any more than the existing front window. 9. The proposed window replacement does not destroy any historic materials. The proposed replacement window is readily differentiated from old materials and is generally compatible with the massing, size, scale, and architectural features insofar as can be known with certainty from evidence provided to date. RECOMMENDATION In the absence of conclusive evidence illustrating the historic appearance of the front windows, the proposed replacement windows have no more and no less impact on the historic integrity of this property than the current front window. LC staff recommends approval of the proposed replacement windows. FISCAL IMPACT ATTACHMENTS 1. COA 25-17 Map 2. COA 25-17 Existing Pics 3. COA 25-17 Application and Project Details 4. COA 25-17 1137 S Monroe Property Details PRE 2023 WORK page 2 of 2  57 ST H AV RO E ON SM GR I GN ON ST 57 ST ST UI H NC Y AV GR I GN SQ RO ON E ST ON GR I GN ST ON SM ST UI NC Y SQ Brown County WI (COA 25-17) Window Replacement ± Feet 0 20 40 80 at 1137 S Monroe Avenue This is a compilation of records and data located in various City of Green Bay offices and is to be used for reference purposes only.The City of Green Bay is 1137 S Monroe Avenue not responsible for any inaccuracies or unauthorized use of the information contained within. No warranties are implied. Map prepared by City of Green Bay Department of Community and Economic Development. E.R. 100' Notification Area 11 Jun 2025 X:\Planning\Basemaps\template_8.5x11.mxd  1137 S Monroe (2015) 1137 S Monroe (1996) page 4 of 4 Address: 1137 S Monroe St Parcel No.: 16‐103 WI AHI No.: 53239 Historic Name: Built: 1920 c. 1920 Historic Use: house Architectural Style: International Style Wall Material: Architect: National Register: 2/27/1980 State Register: 1/1/1989 Other: NRHP nomination link: http://focus.nps.gov/pdfhost/docs/NRHP/Text/80000107.pdf (district nomination) Notes: "This home is similar in design to 1130 South Monroe. It is of grey stucco with simple horizontal lines and a flat roof. Owner: Fred Dahlrard" ‐ per NRHP nomination Stewardship: Character ‐ Overall form & fenestration. A relatively rare International Style house. Stucco clad. Simple box‐like shapes with simple fenestration without decorative casings. Flat roof. Features ‐ Glass block windows. Stucco. Alterations ‐ Attached two car garage may have originally been a smaller 1‐car garage (also attached). Current garage present pre‐1980 (NRHP nomination). Decorative tile added at the upper corners of the body of the home and garage are recent additions. These tiles, combined with paint color, move the feeling of the house towards a Spanish Colonial ‐inspired style. Misc ‐ page 3 of 4  Report to the Landmarks Commission of the City of Green Bay MEETING DATE PREPARED BY June 18, 2025 Jason Flatt, Staff AGENDA ITEM # E.3 (COA 25-18) Consideration with possible action on a design review for replacement garage siding located at 515 Cass Street. BACKGROUND 515 Cass Street is a contributing property in the Astor NRHP District, built c. 1920. The building retains a relatively modest degree of integrity, with significant replacement material (siding, many windows, porch components, etc). The request for COA calls for a new porch roof, new garage roof, and new garage siding. New fascia boards and aluminum trim is proposed for the garage. New gutters are proposed for both the garage and the porch. The detached garage does not appear to be as old as the house, and the siding currently present on the garage appears to be mid-20th century. The proposed changes to both the garage and the house will not remove historic materials and will have no impact on the historic integrity of the property. RECOMMENDATION LC staff recommends approval of the COA application as presented, including the garage siding, the roof for the garage and the porch, the proposed gutters for the garage and the house, as well the fascia and aluminum trim for the garage. FISCAL IMPACT ATTACHMENTS 1. COA 25-18 Map 2. COA 25-18 Application 3. COA 25-18 - 515 Cass Property Details 100 North Jefferson Street, Green Bay, Wisconsin 54301-5026 greenbaywi.gov  ST H ST 54 H T 57 O ST H 54 TO ST H 57 ST ON AD IS SM SM AV ON ST ROE H 57 CA S ST S ST SM ON AD AV ON IS ST ROE H SM CA 57 SS ST SM CA SS AV ON ST ST ROE H 57 Brown County WI (COA 25-18) Garage Siding ± Feet 0 20 40 80 Replacement at 515 Cass Street This is a compilation of records and data located in various City of Green Bay offices and is to be used for reference purposes only.The City of Green Bay is 515 Cass Street not responsible for any inaccuracies or unauthorized use of the information contained within. No warranties are implied. Map prepared by City of Green Bay Department of Community and Economic Development. E.R. 100' Notification Area 11 Jun 2025 X:\Planning\Basemaps\template_8.5x11.mxd  Address: 515 Cass St Parcel No.: 15‐167 WI AHI No.: 51950 Historic Name: Built: 1920 Historic Use: house Architectural Style: vernacular Wall Material: Architect: National Register: 2/27/1980 State Register: 1/1/1989 Other: NRHP nomination link: http://focus.nps.gov/pdfhost/docs/NRHP/Text/80000107.pdf (district nomination) Notes: "This two story frame house has stuccoed second story and a full porch supportet by four rounded columns. The foundation of the house is stone, with stone pilings supporting the porch columns. Owner: Duanek Kelsey" ‐ per NRHP nomination Stewardship: Character ‐ Overall form & fenestration. American foursquare stylings. Hipped roof with front‐facing dormer. Rectangular oriel. Full width front porch. Features ‐ Block (cast?) foundation. Leaded glass window(s). Alterations ‐ Replacement siding & windows. Porch header, columns, rails, spindles, deck, skirts, & pilings replaced (footprint possibly original). Note siding formerly stucco. Misc ‐ n/a page 2 of 2  Report to the Landmarks Commission of the City of Green Bay MEETING DATE PREPARED BY June 18, 2025 Stephanie Hummel, Staff AGENDA ITEM # F.1 Staff-level COA applications. BACKGROUND • COA 25-14, 824 S Jackson, Roof • COA 25-16, 1043 S Quincy, Fence RECOMMENDATION FISCAL IMPACT ATTACHMENTS None 100 North Jefferson Street, Green Bay, Wisconsin 54301-5026 greenbaywi.gov