Transit Commission
Regular MeetingGreen Bay, WI · October 15, 2025
Minutes
MINUTES OF THE TRANSIT COMMISSION
WEDNESDAY, OCTOBER 15, 2025, 8:15 AM
TRANSIT
901 University Ave
A. ROLL CALL.
1. Members: Roger Kolb, Chair; Randy Scannell, Vice-Chair; Kevin Kuehn, Secretary; Alderman
Craig Stevens, Michael Conley-Kuhagen, Terri Refsguard and Dr. Hector Rodriguez.
Present: Roger Kolb, Michael Conley-Kuhagen, Alderman Craig Stevens, and Dr. Hector
Rodriguez
Excused: Kevin Kuehn, Terri Resguard, and Randy Scannell
Chair Roger Kolb called the meeting to order at 8:15 a.m.
B. APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA.
1. Approval of the agenda for the Wednesday, October 15, 2025, meeting of the Transit
Commission.
Moved by Michael Conley-Kuhagen, seconded by Hector Rodriguez to approve the October
15, 2025, agenda. Motion carried.
Yes – Roger Kolb and Alderman Craig Stevens
No – None, Abstain - None
C. APPROVAL OF MINUTES.
1. Approval of the minutes from the September 17, 2025, meeting.
Moved by Alderman Craig Stevens, seconded by Michael Conley-Kuhagen to approve the
September 17, 2025, minutes. Motion carried.
Yes – Roger Kolb and Hector Rodriguez
No – None, Abstain — None
D. REGULAR BUSINESS.
1. Discussion/Action: No Show Policy for GBM On Demand
Director Kiewiz shared that our average wait time used to be 5–10 minutes and has
increased to 20–30 minutes when booking On Demand. Green Bay Metro's goal is to keep
this under 30 minutes. Individuals have been booking a trip, and riders aren't canceling their
trip that was booked. The driver now has no rider to be picked up when they arrive at the
assigned destination. In consideration of our No Show Policy for Paratransit, one isn't to be
more strict than the other.
Many riders are in favor of getting the No Show Policy in place. We have received comments
on social media in favor of this to ensure the service isn't affecting other riders. We also
received a comment to the Transit Commission from a rider being in favor of the No Show
Policy.
Commissioner Rodriguez asked how many no-shows occur with our service?
P. Kiewiz shared that we had about 300 last month and don't want to see that number
increasing. Especially riders receiving unavailable rides when booking and now the rider is
without an option when trying to get home or to work.
No further discussion was had.
Moved by Alderman Craig Stevenson, seconded by Hector Rodriquez, to approve the No
Show Policy for GBM On Demand. Motion carried.
Yes — Roger Kolb and Michael Conley-Kuhagen
No — None, Abstain — None
E. INFORMATIONAL.
1. Operational Reports
Continuing to work through reporting concerns with the fare system.
No other concerns at this time.
2. Financial Reports
No concerns at this time.
3. Director's Report
Director Kiewiz shared that the government shutdown hasn't affected us currently. Staff
attended the WIPTA conference last week. With the shutdown, TSA was unable to attend
the conference.
Project updates, the radios are arriving this month and the first week of December; TSI will
be onsite to install the live bus cameras.
Green Bay Metro will be hosting the WIPTA conference next year.
No further discussion was held.
4. Next Transit Commission Meeting: November 19, 2025 at 8:15am.
Motion by Michael Conley-Kuhagen, seconded by Alderman Craig Stevens, to adjourn at 8:34
a.m. Motion carried.
Yes – Roger Kolb and Hector Rodriguez
No – None. Abstain — None
F. ADJOURNMENT.
1. Adjournment of the Wednesday, October 15, 2025, meeting of the Transit Commission.
Agenda
AGENDA OF THE TRANSIT COMMISSION
WEDNESDAY, OCTOBER 15, 2025, 8:15 AM
TRANSIT
901 University Ave
A. Roll Call.
1. Members: Roger Kolb, Chair; Randy Scannell, Vice-Chair; Kevin Kuehn, Secretary; Alderman
Craig Stevens, Michael Conley-Kuhagen, Terri Refsguard and Dr. Hector Rodriguez.
B. Approval of the Agenda.
1. Approval of the agenda for the Wednesday, October 15, 2025, meeting of the Transit
Commission.
C. Approval of Minutes.
1. Approval of the minutes from the September 17, 2025, meeting.
D. Regular Business.
1. Discussion/Action: No Show Policy for GBM On Demand
E. Informational.
1. Operational Reports
2. Financial Reports
3. Director's Report
4. Next Transit Commission Meeting: November 19, 2025 at 8:15am.
F. Adjournment.
1. Adjournment of the Wednesday, October 15, 2025, meeting of the Transit Commission.
1) ACCESSIBILITY: Any person wishing to attend who requires special accommodation because of a disability,
should contact the City Safety Manager at 920-448-3125 at least 48 hours before the scheduled meeting time so
that arrangements can be made.
Agenda of the Transit Commission
October 15, 2025
Page 1
2) QUORUM: Please take notice that a majority or quorum of the Common Council will attend this Transit
Commission meeting and will constitute a meeting of the Common Council for purposes of discussion and
information gathering relative to this agenda.
3) REPRESENTATION: The party requesting the communication, or their representative, should be present at this
meeting.
Agenda of the Transit Commission
October 15, 2025
Page 2
Packet
AGENDA OF THE TRANSIT COMMISSION
WEDNESDAY, OCTOBER 15, 2025, 8:15 AM
TRANSIT
901 University Ave
A. Roll Call.
1. Members: Roger Kolb, Chair; Randy Scannell, Vice-Chair; Kevin Kuehn, Secretary; Alderman
Craig Stevens, Michael Conley-Kuhagen, Terri Refsguard and Dr. Hector Rodriguez.
B. Approval of the Agenda.
1. Approval of the agenda for the Wednesday, October 15, 2025, meeting of the Transit
Commission.
C. Approval of Minutes.
1. Approval of the minutes from the September 17, 2025, meeting.
D. Regular Business.
1. Discussion/Action: No Show Policy for GBM On Demand
E. Informational.
1. Operational Reports
2. Financial Reports
3. Director's Report
4. Next Transit Commission Meeting: November 19, 2025 at 8:15am.
F. Adjournment.
1. Adjournment of the Wednesday, October 15, 2025, meeting of the Transit Commission.
1) ACCESSIBILITY: Any person wishing to attend who requires special accommodation because of a disability,
should contact the City Safety Manager at 920-448-3125 at least 48 hours before the scheduled meeting time so
that arrangements can be made.
Agenda of the Transit Commission
October 15, 2025
Page 1
2) QUORUM: Please take notice that a majority or quorum of the Common Council will attend this Transit
Commission meeting and will constitute a meeting of the Common Council for purposes of discussion and
information gathering relative to this agenda.
3) REPRESENTATION: The party requesting the communication, or their representative, should be present at this
meeting.
Agenda of the Transit Commission
October 15, 2025
Page 2
Report to the
Transit Commission
of the City of Green Bay
MEETING DATE PREPARED BY
October 15, 2025
AGENDA ITEM # C.1
Approval of the minutes from the September 17, 2025, meeting.
BACKGROUND
Minutes from the meeting held on September 17, 2025.
RECOMMENDATION
Staff recommends approval of the minutes from the September 17, 2025, meeting.
FISCAL IMPACT
ATTACHMENTS
1. Transit Commission 9-17-2025
901 University Avenue, Green Bay, Wisconsin 54302
greenbaymetro.org
MINUTES OF THE TRANSIT COMMISSION
WEDNESDAY, SEPTEMBER 17, 2025, 8:15 AM
TRANSIT
901 University Ave
A. ROLL CALL.
1. Members: Roger Kolb, Chair; Randy Scannell, Vice-Chair; Kevin Kuehn, Secretary; Alderman
Craig Stevens, Michael Conley-Kuhagen, Terri Refsguard and Dr. Hector Rodriguez.
Present: Roger Kolb, Randy Scannell, Michael Conley-Kuhagen, Alderman Craig Stevens,
Terri Resguard, and Dr. Hector Rodriguez
Excused: Kevin Kuehn
Chair Roger Kolb called the meeting to order at 8:15 a.m.
B. APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA.
1. Approval of the agenda for the Wednesday, September 17, 2025, meeting of the Transit
Commission.
Moved by Randy Scannell, seconded by Michael Conley-Kuhagen to approve the September
17, 2025, agenda. Motion carried.
Yes – Roger Kolb, Terri Refsguard, Hector Rodriguez, and Alderman Craig Stevens
No – None, Abstain - None
C. APPROVAL OF MINUTES.
1. Approval of the minutes from the August 20, 2025, meeting.
Moved by Randy Scannell, seconded by Michael Conley-Kuhagen to approve the August 20,
2025, minutes. Motion carried.
Yes – Roger Kolb, Terri Refsguard, Hector Rodriguez, and Alderman Craig Stevens
No – None, Abstain — None
D. REGULAR BUSINESS.
1. Discussion/Action: Purchase of (2) 35' Battery Electric Low Floor Buses
Director Kiewiz shared that Green Bay Metro has several projects that need to be done by
this year. Last fall, Green Bay Metro was awarded the Low-No emissions grant through the
federal government. By January 2027 we will have a total of 6 electric buses. With our
current BEB, we are seeing 42% battery life left after being in service for the day. We do
expect this number to decline for the winter.
This amount also includes the infrastructure and training with the two (2) BEB. Training
sessions have been conducted with the fire department and and additional training will be
provided to our staff. We have also brought in a consultant for the analytical portion.
No further discussion was had.
Moved by Alderman Craig Stevenson, seconded by Randy Scannell, to approve the Purchase
of (2) Battery Electric Low Floor Buses, with a cost not to exceed $3,700,000. Motion
carried.
Yes - Roger Kolb, Hector Rodriquez, and Terri Refsguard
No- None, Abstain - None
2. Discussion/Action: Purchase of an Industrial Rider Floor Scrubber
Director Kiewiz shared that Green Bay Metro is currently looking to replace our Tennant
floor scrubber. The bid summary is attached, and the purchasing department is working with
the lowest bidder currently to have a demo done to ensure performance.
No further discussion was held.
Moved by Randy Scannell, seconded by Terri Refsguard, to approve the Purchase of an
Industrial Rider Floor Scrubber, with a cost not to exceed $75,000. Motion carried.
Yes - Roger Kolb, Hector Rodriquez, Michael Conley-Kuhagen, and Alderman Craig
Stevenson
No — None, Abstain — None
3. Discussion/Action: Reclass the Operations Assistant Position to a full-time position from a
temp position
Director Kiewiz shared that the Operations Assistant Position is a limited-term position and
has been open since the end of April. We wanted to wait till the budget to see numbers and
how it would best serve operations. This position helps a lot with training, coverage in all
areas of operations, advertising, and detours. This position is in our 2026 budget for next
year.
No further discussion was had.
Moved by Alderman Craig Stevenson, seconded by Terri Refsguard, to approve the Reclass
of the Operations Assistant Position to a full-time position from a temp position. Motion
carried.
Yes — Roger Kolb, Hector Rodriquez, Michael Conley-Kuhagen, and Randy Scannell.
No — None, Abstain — None
4. Discussion/Action: Purchase of Upgraded Live Video Surveillance
Director Kiewiz stated we are seeking approval to update our live video surveillance on the
buses. Seon is no longer able to support the camera system we have, provide hard drives,
or replacement parts. Our 2015 and newer buses have TSI, and we have not had any issues.
This records audio and video, which is used for safety and training purposes.
Commissioner Refsguard asked how long Seon had been on the buses.
P. Kiewiz stated since 2009.
No further discussion was had.
Moved by Alderman Craig Stevenson, seconded by Randy Scannell, to approve the Purchase
of Upgraded Live Video Surveillance, with a cost not to exceed $180,000. Motion carried.
Yes - Roger Kolb, Hector Rodriquez, Michael Conley-Kuhagen, and Terri Refsguard
No — None, Abstain — None
5. Discussion/Action: Purchase of Security Barriers /Planters
Director Kiewiz shared that Green Bay Metro is fortunate enough to be able to stay up with
safety and security. TSA came to evaluate our facility earlier this year and was recommended
to place some type of security barriers on the transit way. Discussions are being held with
the Fire Chief to get his knowledge and expertise. A great example is how Lambeau has
barriers set-up around their facility.
Approximately $65,000 will go towards this project, and we're working to ensure we have
the right weight and measurements. There is a variety of columns and planters to choose
from. Green Bay Metro also wants to make sure we provide curb appeal as well while still
serving its purpose.
No further discussion was had.
Moved by Alderman Craig Stevenson, seconded by Randy Scannel, to approve the Purchase
of Security Barriers/Planters with a cost not to exceed $65,000. Motion carried.
Yes - Roger Kolb, Hector Rodriquez, Michael Conley-Kuhagen, and Terri Refsguard
No — None, Abstain — None
E. INFORMATIONAL.
1. Operational Reports
Continue to have reporting concerns with the fare system.
No other concerns at this time.
2. Financial Reports
Nothing of concern, below budget.
The FTA will be closing for the end of their year soon.
3. Director's Report
Director Kiewiz shared that Brown County Planning, our MPO and Green Bay Metro staff
have been working with 1000 friends on conducting a 10-week transportation academy.
Learning about local transportation policy, plans, processes, advocacy, and collaborating with
local experts. Green Bay Metro will be presenting at one of the upcoming meetings.
P. Kiewiz stated that transit has submitted their budget and is not anticipating any changes to
transit.
No further discussion was held.
4. Next Transit Commission Meeting: October 15, 2025 at 8:15am.
Motion by Randy Scannell, seconded by Michael Conley-Kuhagen, to adjourn at 8:46 a.m.
Motion carried.
Yes – Roger Kolb, Hector Rodriguez, Terri Refsguard and Alderman Craig Stevens
No – None. Abstain — None
F. ADJOURNMENT.
1. Adjournment of the Wednesday, September 17, 2025, meeting of the Transit Commission.
Report to the
Transit Commission
of the City of Green Bay
MEETING DATE PREPARED BY
October 15, 2025
AGENDA ITEM # D.1
Discussion/Action: No Show Policy for GBM On Demand
BACKGROUND
GBM On Demand has been very successful. The number of rides has greatly increased. With this increase,
the wait time has also increased. Staff continuously works with Via to ensure a successful service. However,
one item that staff have seen go up that staff does not want to see increase is the number of no-show
rides. These rides increase operational costs, waste taxpayers’ funds and cause an inconvenience to
passengers who are riding the van or who wanted to but were unable to book a trip during the time of the
no-show. Therefore, the staff worked to create a no-show policy.
RECOMMENDATION
Staff recommends the approval of a No Show Policy as present for GBM On Demand.
FISCAL IMPACT
ATTACHMENTS
1. GBM On Demand Cancelation DRAFT
901 University Avenue, Green Bay, Wisconsin 54302
greenbaymetro.org
GBM On Demand Cancelation/No Show Policy ____________ November XX, 2025
No-shows increase GBM On-Demand’s operational costs, wastes taxpayers’ funds and cause
inconvenience to passengers who are riding the van or who wanted to but were unable to book a
trip during the time of the no-show. An unchecked pattern of no-shows encourages waste and
mistreatment of the service and passengers. Therefore, it is important to identify those passengers
who have developed a pattern and practice of accumulating no-shows, based on their frequency of
use.
All suspension periods will begin on a Monday. The length of a passenger’s suspension will adhere
to the progressive corrective action plan described as followed:
One No-Show within 30 Day period: Text/Account/Email Warning
Two No-Shows within 30 Day period: 2nd Text/Account/Email Warning
Three No-Shows within 30 Day period: 7 day suspension
GBM On Demand will retain records on passenger compliance regarding this policy. An Email
Warning of this policy will be issued upon the first violation. Further violation of this policy will
result in suspension per the above schedule.
If a passenger no-shows because of circumstances beyond their control, they are to call GBM On
Demand at: (920) -448-3185 and explain the circumstance for the infraction. No shows must be
disputed within seven (7) days after the infraction occurred. At this time, the passenger can request
the removal of the no show. Any no-show that is found to be in error will be removed from the
client’s account.
Report to the
Transit Commission
of the City of Green Bay
MEETING DATE PREPARED BY
October 15, 2025 Patricia Kiewiz, Transit Director
AGENDA ITEM # E.1
Operational Reports
BACKGROUND
Green Bay Metro's staff will present the Commission with the monthly operational reports.
RECOMMENDATION
No action is necessary.
FISCAL IMPACT
ATTACHMENTS
1. 08.Aug 2025 Ridership
901 University Avenue, Green Bay, Wisconsin 54302
greenbaymetro.org
Aug
Fixed Route Ridership Microtransit On Demand Ridership
MONTHLY
YTD FIXED MONTHLY ON YTD ON
ADULT STUDENT *REDUCED *FREE FIXED ADULT STUDENT *REDUCED *FREE
ROUTE DEMAND DEMAND
ROUTE
August 2024 26,350 8,773 9,028 14,013 58,164 523,495 August 2024 4,646 460 410 56 5,572 46,815
August 2025 23,964 5,811 8,196 17,213 55,184 504,153 August 2025 3,879 1,089 668 149 5,785 48,200
Difference (2,386) (2,962) (832) 3,200 (2,980) (19,342) (767) 629 258 93 213 1,385
-9% -34% -9% 23% -5% -3.7% -17% 137% 63% 166% 4% 3.0%
YTD
PASSENGERS
Free,,,18%
19% 552,353
Free
Free
Free
Free ,, 17%
19%
22%
21%
Free
Free ,13,155
, 28%21%
Free , 28%13,151 Adult, 34%
Adult,
Adult, 37%42%
Reduced
Reduced , , 11%
17,362
11% Adult,
Adult, 38%
38%
Reduced
Reduced ,, 11%
12% Adult,Adult,
29,733
46% 42%
27,843
8,177
Student, 13% 8,050 Adult, 50%
Adult, 30,267
46%
*Reduced fare program is for
Student, 11% 6,900 individuals who are age 65 and older,
Reduced , 11%
Student, 28% 19,964
Student,
Student,
Student, 28%
18%
Student,34%
32% Student, 27% Medicare recipients, and individuals
Reduced , 15% Student, 31%
Reduced , 15% 9,012 with qualifying disabilities.
Reduced , 11% Reduced , 15% 8,864
*Free is comprised of game day,
children 4 & under, promos, etc.
Paratransit Ridership
*AGENCY TOTAL Paratransit Ridership
BASE TRIPS YTD
TRIPS TRIPS
August 2024 351 784 1,135 9,349
August 2025 386 645 1,031 8,540
784 645
Difference 35 (139) (104) (809)
10.0% -17.7% -9.2% -8.7%
*Agency Fare includes base fare plus additional 351 386
cost for expenses that is permitted by 49 CRF
37.131 to social service agencies and other August 2024 August 2025
organizations for agency trips (i.e., trips
BASE TRIPS *AGENCY TRIPS
guaranteed to the organization).
On Time Performance: 96.9%
Completed Trips: 1012
Completed On Time Trips: 980
Completed Late Trips - 0-6 mins 40
Completed Late Trips - 6-30 mins 11
Completed Late Trips > 30 mins 1
Late Cancellations and No Show Trips 26
Fixed Route Mobility Devices Boarded Fixed Route Bikes Loaded
464 1005
462 956
August 2025 August 2024 August 2025 August 2024
49 CRF 37.131 - Service Criteria for Complementary paratransit ( c) (4) The entity may charge a fare higher than otherwise permitted by this parapraph to a
social service agency or other organization for agency trips (i.e., trips guaranteed to the organization).
Report to the
Transit Commission
of the City of Green Bay
MEETING DATE PREPARED BY
October 15, 2025 Patricia Kiewiz, Transit Director
AGENDA ITEM # E.2
Financial Reports
BACKGROUND
Director Kiewiz will provide an update on Metro's finances through August 2025.
RECOMMENDATION
No action is necessary.
FISCAL IMPACT
ATTACHMENTS
1. 08.Aug - Financials
901 University Avenue, Green Bay, Wisconsin 54302
greenbaymetro.org
Green Bay Metro Transit Commission
Financial Report
August 2025
EXPENSES
% OF
ACCOUNT DESCRIPTION 2025 Jan-Aug 2024 Jan-Aug +/- % 2025 BUDGET
BUDGET
Wages & Salaries 1,697,117.65 1,622,566.99 74,551 4.6% 2,765,438 61.4%
Fringe Benefits 809,109.46 727,307.93 81,802 11.2% 1,830,692 44.2%
Other Employment Expenses 37,289.30 30,391.18 6,898 22.7% 68,932 54.1%
Contract Services 144,646.32 155,571.27 (10,925) -7.0% 424,140 34.1%
Materials & Supplies 267,210.20 296,916.91 (29,707) -10.0% 643,436 41.5%
Building & Equip Maintenance 138,761.48 246,271.00 (107,510) -43.7% 234,100 59.3%
Utilities 93,221.23 111,051.02 (17,830) -16.1% 235,106 39.7%
Insurance 133,524.71 130,736.00 2,789 2.1% 158,827 84.1%
Miscellaneous 162.00 137.20 25 18.1% 250 64.8%
Paratransit Services 294,748.50 275,435.52 19,313 7.0% 1,072,447 27.5%
Microtransit Services 1,179,957.00 1,068,420.48 111,537 10.4% 2,170,063 54.4%
Subrecipient Expenses - - - 0.0% - 0.0%
TOTAL 4,795,747.85 4,664,805.50 130,942 2.8% 9,603,432 49.9%
ORIGINAL BUDGET
REVENUES
% OF
ACCOUNT DESCRIPTION 2025 Jan-Aug 2024 Jan-Aug +/- % 2025 BUDGET
BUDGET
Federal Operating Asst - - - 0.0% 2,833,013 0.0%
State Operating Asst 2,230,617.00 673,185.00 1,557,432 231.4% 2,833,013 78.7%
Other Local Municipalities 458,673.59 379,081.63 79,592 21.0% 665,249 68.9%
Green Bay 866,666.64 866,666.64 - 0.0% 1,934,650 44.8%
Farebox Revenue-Fixed Route 325,292.54 307,921.47 17,371 5.6% 710,000 45.8%
Farebox Revenue-Paratransit 127,707.50 129,649.00 (1,942) -1.5% 269,500 47.4%
Farebox Revenue-Microtransit 19,486.00 13,244.00 6,242 47.1% - 0.0%
College Program Fares 7,672.00 4,641.00 3,031 65.3% - 0.0%
TMI Refund 9,548.00 9,454.00 94 1% - 0.0%
Non-Transportation Revenue 121,391.97 37,126.84 84,265 227.0% 9,100 1334.0%
State Fuel Refund 8,043.28 11,236.76 (3,193) -28.4% - 0.0%
Advertising 59,977.61 53,530.32 6,447 12.0% 110,000 54.5%
Intercity Bus Commissions 4,000.00 4,000.00 - 0.0% 6,000 66.7%
Partnership Contributions 103,319.15 103,901.00 (582) -0.6% 232,908 44.4%
TOTAL 4,342,395.28 2,593,637.66 1,748,758 67.4% 9,603,432 45.2%
KEY PERFORMANCE INDICATORS (KPI)
Operating Days 205 207 (2.0) -1.0% 307
Revenue Miles 428,247 434,359 (6,112) -1.4% 672,554
Revenue Hours 29,092 29,589 (497) -1.7% 45,552
Unlinked Passenger Trips 504,153 523,495 (19,342) -3.7% 934,849
Revenue / Cost 90.5% 55.6% 100%
Farebox Revenue / Mile 0.76 0.71 0.05 7.1% 1.06
Farebox Revenue / Pass Trip 0.65 0.59 0.06 9.7% 0.76
Farebox Revenue / Hour 11.18 10.41 0.77 7.4% 15.59
Passenger / Mile 1.18 1.21 (0.03) -2.3% 1.39
Cost / Mile 7.75 7.65 0.11 1.4% 9.46
Cost / Passenger Trip 6.59 6.34 0.24 3.8% 6.80
*Insurance is [NET] TMI
August = 66.7% **Diesel fuel is included in materials and supplies subtotal. 2025
Report to the
Transit Commission
of the City of Green Bay
MEETING DATE PREPARED BY
October 15, 2025 Patricia Kiewiz, Transit Director
AGENDA ITEM # E.3
Director's Report
BACKGROUND
Director Kiewiz will provide the Commission with an update on Green Bay Metro.
RECOMMENDATION
No action is necessary.
FISCAL IMPACT
ATTACHMENTS
None
901 University Avenue, Green Bay, Wisconsin 54302
greenbaymetro.org