Land Use & Legislative Committee
Regular MeetingJoliet, IL · November 8, 2021
Minutes
City of Joliet
150 West Jefferson Street
Joliet, IL 60432
Meeting Minutes - Final
Monday, November 8, 2021
3:30 PM
City Hall, Council Chambers
Land Use & Legislative Committee
Committee Members
Terry Morris
Joe Clement
Jan Quillman
Land Use & Legislative Committee Meeting Minutes - Final November 8, 2021
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As of August 30, 2021, Governor Pritzker announced a statewide indoor mask mandate for all Illinois residents, regardless of
vaccination status.
In compliance with Governor Pritzker’s mandate, any individual appearing in person must wear a face-covering to cover their
nose and mouth.
Citizens who are unable to attend the meeting can email comments in advance of the meeting to publiccomment@joliet.gov.
ROLL CALL
Present Councilman Terry Morris, Councilwoman Jan Quillman and
Councilman Joe Clement
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
TMP-2720
Attachments: 102821.pdf
A motion was made by Joseph Clement, seconded by Jan Hallums Quillman, to
approve as amended the minutes from the October 28, 2021 meeting. The
motion carried by the following vote:
Aye: Councilman Morris, Councilwoman Quillman and Councilman
Clement
CITIZENS TO BE HEARD ON AGENDA ITEMS
Mr. Matt Breen, Vice-President of the FOP Supervisors Union, appeared with several
questions and concerns about the Citizen Advisory Board.
Councilwoman Quillman asked Mr. Breen if he had a copy of the new revised draft or an old
draft. He responded he will have to look at it.
Mr. Mike DeVito, President of the FOP Labor Council, gave a brief statement to the
Committee.
Ms. Christine Bright stated she is happy that the Police Unions are present. She gave some
background information about the requests and needs of the proposed Citizen Advisory
Board.
Mr. Amin Falaq spoke in favor of the Citizen Advisory Board. He said the City Council needs
to take a leadership role and establish something to save the citizens of Joliet their tax payer
money.
Ms. Suzanna Ibarra said this is about money to the tax payers of the City of Joliet and it's
about saving lives of citizens and police officers. She requested that all parties come to the
table to draft something that is agreeable.
Mr. Karl Ferrell said they are not here to batter the Police and appreciate the officers that
serve Joliet. It is a time for a system change because things are not working the right way.
Councilman Morris stated his role in this is to allow citizens to be heard. It was decided at a
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previous City Council meeting that the proposed board should be before the Land Use and
Legislative Committee. His main purpose is to be here and to hear the citizens. His vision for
the board is that it would bring the citizens and the Police Department together.
Councilman Clement thanked everyone who has had input from the beginning to today . He
does not feel it is ready yet because too many people have not submitted their input . He has
about 20 points to the current proposal that he did not speak on. As of today he can not
support the proposal.
Councilwoman Quillman agreed with what everyone has said today and does not feel it is
ready yet.
Mr. Regis gave some background history of how the draft got started as well as some
changes that were done over the past year.
Councilman Morris feels that now is the time to work on the draft and get to the final
document.
Councilman Clement mentioned a few items in the document that he was opposed to .
Councilwoman Quillman is opposed to the board being compensated because no other board
or commission receive compensation.
Interim Police Chief Robert Brown feels the citizens should be heard but the unions have a
collective bargaining agreement. He feels both parties are looking for the same outcome. He
suggested the stakeholders that are involved are not just the union president and the unions
but the attorneys as well.
Deputy Chief Sherrie Blackburn said the union attorneys will really dissect what they can and
can't do for the officers. She also suggested a smaller scale meeting with an open dialogue
consisting of the union member and president or vice-president present.
Deputy Chief Carlos Matlock suggested this negotiation process be longer than a meeting in
another 10 days.
POLICE DEPARTMENT CITIZEN ADVISORY BOARD
TMP-2721
Attachments: crb7Nov.pdf
NEW OR OLD BUSINESS - NOT FOR FINAL ACTION OR
RECOMMENDATION
None.
PUBLIC COMMENT
Ms. Candace Bell said it would be helpful to set a time frame for the next meeting. She stated
it is not fair that they continue to show up and the remainder of the stakeholders do not show
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up.
Ms. Rachel Ventura said people that have concerns about the document should contact the
Council people and give the concerns to them so that they can represent them at the
meetings. The Committee has the voices of stakeholders present and legal representation
present today. She hopes that at the next public committee meeting they should be able to
take a vote on it.
Councilwoman Quillman asked Ms. Ventura if as a County Board Member have they instituted
a Review Board for the Will County Sheriff. She responded there is a difference between the
Sheriff and the Police Chief is that the Sheriff is elected by the people. They have
accountability every day and every 4 years they get voted in.
Ms. Trista Brown, Speak Up Organization, shared some personal experiences with the
Committee.
Ms. Bright spoke about some of Councilman Clement's suggestions from earlier in the
meeting.
Mr. Ferrell inquired what the next steps will be since there will not be a vote today. He
suggested everyone be in the same room at the same time because the citizens have been
present at every meeting.
Mr. Breen said a lot of legal issues have to be vetted through the legal department with the
FOP in Willow Springs. He will give them the most current document so they can go through
it. He does not have an exact date of when they will be finished with their review.
Deputy Chief Blackburn said there will be an agenda to follow when all stakeholders come to
the next meeting.
Deputy Chief Matlock suggested meeting again after the holidays in January. Councilman
Morris feels that the attorneys should be able to review the document pretty quickly and
possibly meet before the year ends.
Councilwoman Quillman agreed with starting after the holidays in January. Councilman
Clement agreed as well.
It was decided that the stakeholders and attorneys will meet between now and January to
finalize a document. When they are ready, they will let the Committee know to schedule
another Land Use meeting to review and vote on the revised document sometime in January .
ADJOURNMENT
A motion was made by Jan Hallums Quillman, seconded by Joseph Clement, to adjourn. The
motion carried by the following vote:
Aye: Councilman Morris, Councilwoman Quillman and Councilman
Clement
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This meeting will be held in an accessible location. If you need a reasonable accommodation, please contact Christa M.
Desiderio, City Clerk, 150 West Jefferson Street, Joliet, Illinois 60432 at (815) 724-3780.
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Agenda
City of Joliet
Land Use & Legislative Committee
Meeting Agenda - Final
Committee Members
Terry Morris
Joe Clement
Jan Hallums Quillman
Monday, November 8, 2021 3:30 PM City Hall, Council Chambers
As of August 30, 2021, Governor Pritzker announced a statewide indoor mask mandate for all Illinois residents, regardless of
vaccination status.
In compliance with Governor Pritzker’s mandate, any individual appearing in person must wear a face-covering to cover their
nose and mouth.
Citizens who are unable to attend the meeting can email comments in advance of the meeting to publiccomment@joliet.gov.
ROLL CALL
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Minutes from the October 28, 2021 Meeting TMP-2720
Attachments: 102821.pdf
CITIZENS TO BE HEARD ON AGENDA ITEMS
POLICE DEPARTMENT CITIZEN ADVISORY BOARD
Police Department Citizen Advisory Board TMP-2721
Attachments: crb7Nov.pdf
NEW OR OLD BUSINESS - NOT FOR FINAL ACTION OR
RECOMMENDATION
PUBLIC COMMENT
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ADJOURNMENT
This meeting will be held in an accessible location. If you need a reasonable accommodation, please contact Christa M.
Desiderio, City Clerk, 150 West Jefferson Street, Joliet, Illinois 60432 at (815) 724-3780.
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