Personnel Board
Regular MeetingJuneau, AK · January 10, 2012
Minutes
City and Borough of Juneau Personnel Board
Tuesday, January 10, 2012, Noon
City Hall Conference Room 224
I. Call to Order
Chair Nicki Neal called the meeting to order at 12:05 p.m.
Members Present: Brett Allio, Max Mielke, Nicki Neal, Donna Pierce, Rob Weber.
Members Absent: None.
Others present: Corey Baxter, District 8 Representative, International Union of
Operating Engineers; Dick Roblee, Legal Counsel for IUOE; Mila Cosgrove,
Human Resources-Risk Management Director; John Hartle, City Attorney, Patty
DeLabruere, Deputy Airport Manager; Laurie Sica, Municipal Clerk.
II. Approval of Minutes
MOTION, by Allio, Seconded by Mielke, to approve the minutes of the May 10, 2011
Personnel Board Meeting. Hearing no objection, the minutes were approved.
III. International.Union of Operating Engineers - LOCAL 302 Request
Chair Neal said the primary purpose of the meeting was to review the
International.Union of Operating Engineers - LOCAL 302’s request to petition the
Juneau Personnel Board for creation of a separate bargaining unit for the Airport
Field Maintenance Workers. She said there was a similar petition filed previously
and the packet included the Personnel Board’s decision and the Assembly’s
Decision on Appeal of the Personnel Board’s decision. Chair Neal asked Mr.
Roblee what had changed since the July 2009 petition was heard by the Personnel
Board.
Mr. Roblee said that the ordinance, which underlies how the board applied the laws
and the facts of that case, had changed and under the new law, the Personnel Board
could arrive at a new conclusion. Mr. Roblee said he had not conducted a detailed
interview of the employees but it was not their contention that the facts were
different, but that the law was changed. For instance, the Board’s earlier decision
rested substantially on an observation that the same job classifications existed
throughout city government, not just at the airport, and it would be our contention
that that would no longer be a valid consideration in determining community of
interest. The Board would have to focus on the employees at the airport specifically.
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Chair Neal asked for confirmation that the code section change that Mr. Roblee
referenced was CBJ 44.10.040. Mr. Roblee said he believed so.
Chair Neal asked Ms. Cosgrove for the CBJ’s position on whether or not the code
change affected the decision previously made. Ms. Cosgrove said as Mr. Roblee
pointed out, the underlying facts of the situation have not changed, in the sense of
wages, hours, terms and conditions of employment for the Airport Field
Maintenance Workers, which are largely if not identical to those presented to the
Personnel Board when it reached its previous decision. Under the rules, there is a
bar to reconsideration. She gave the example of the CBJ Records Unit, which the
city argued should be moved from PSEA to MEBA, but because the underlying
facts had not materially changed, CBJ was barred from bringing the matter before
the Board. She said that is no different from what is occurring in this situation. The
change to CBJ 44.10.040 was to clarify that the term Community of Interest (COI)
was now synonymous with Bargaining Unit (BU). Under the previous ordinance,
there was a unique definition of COI that translated to the work group. This
definition was eliminated and it was determined that COI was synonymous with
BU. That was not a substantive change to the law but a clarification, and was the
same basis upon which the Board reached its decision to say no to the Airport Field
Maintenance Workers before. Ms. Cosgrove referred to the Board’s Decision on
page 14, and said the conclusion of law addressed the issue and used the same
language that is now in the ordinance, referencing “as large as is reasonable and
avoidance of undue or unnecessary fragmentation. Those are the same points that
are also included in the Assembly’s Decision on Appeal, page 3. Ms. Cosgrove
said proceeding further was barred, but if the Board decided to move forward, she
requested that the question be limited to whether the ordinance change changed the
definition of BU.
Mr. Hartle said he was filling in for Amy Mead, CBJ Assistant Civil Attorney, who
was unable to attend. In response to Ms. Neal regarding how reconsideration could
take place, he said the Assembly could be asked to reconsider its decision on the
appeal, and to relax its time restriction on the reconsideration. Both are
discretionary questions of the Assembly. The question identified, “Does the
ordinance change make a material difference to the previous decision of the Board.”
The second route is to have the Personnel Board to make this decision. A two step-
process – is the change in the legal landscape enough to change a decision
previously made by the board, and if so, what should the proper decision be. His
view was that it was a better route for the Personnel Board to review the matter.
The parties could brief the matter.
Mr. Mielke said Central Labor Council (CLC) approached the Assembly with the
issue that employees could opt out but they could not opt back in, and changes were
made in which he thought it was the full intention that these employees could enter
back in to a BU. Mr. Hartle said that the opt-in provision is in the code, but in a
different code section, and there is a change to the definition of BU, which is the
point of this. Mr. Roblee said the argument would be based on the new code
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supports the union’s petition and a brand new backdrop to how the matter was
reviewed before. They believe the history of the changes make it clear that the legal
landscape has changed in CBJ 44.10.040 and 050 concerning the right of this opted
out unit to form a new unit, and that colors the issue of fragmentation, and how
closely or not the work of the airport workers is from similar positions city wide.
They are not asking for a reconsideration of an earlier decision under the old code,
which is a settled legal matter. The union filed this petition because it believes that
the airport workers have rights that they did not possess before. Their expectation is
that it will follow its rules, to determine if the petition is appropriate, the arguments
would be heard, and the Board would make its decision. This could be done in one
hearing in order to expedite the matter. The proposal of a legal determination,
which may be appealed, is an impact on the right of the employees to have this
matter resolved.
Chair Neal said if the code change does not materially change the “legal
landscape,” then there would be no need for a hearing. Mr. Hartle said this is a
threshold question, deciding whether the Board is barred from reconsideration, as
the matter was previously decided, and this could be determined in one hearing or
bifurcated.
Chair Neal said that CBJ 44.10.040 designates the Board as having the authority to
determine a separate BU and defines BU. CBJ 44.10.050(2) indicates that a group
that has been excluded (this group previously elected to be excluded from MEBA)
is asking to be included by the IUOE – 302. Ms. Cosgrove it gets confusing in that
the term “employee representative” and “bargaining unit” often get used
synonymously and they are two separate things. A Bargaining Unit is solely in
control of the Board to determine what group of people is appropriate for the
purposes of collective bargaining, and then it is up to the employees to determine
what employee organization should be the representative. In this case, the Airport
Maintenance workers voted out of their collective bargaining relationship with
MEBA, but they cannot vote themselves out of a bargaining unit, as that is
determined by the Board. Under that odd “opt-out provision” which no longer
exists, in part based on the influence of the CLC and the change to the ordinance,
that group of employees can still opt back in to collective bargaining, back into that
unit. Ms. Neal clarified that the airport workers could go back in and be
represented by MEBA if they elected to do so. Ms. Cosgrove said yes, and Rule
4.10 in the Personnel Board Rules of Procedure says that “any group of employees
may elect to be reincluded in a collective bargaining unit from which the group had
previously elected to be excluded according to the following procedures…” Once
back in, the representative can be changed if there is a representation of the full
bargaining unit and the election process is held.
Chair Neal said she was interested in determining if the change to the CBJ Code
changes the definition of BU, in order to determine if a hearing is necessary. She
understood this creates an additional step in the process.
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Ms. Pierce agreed that the question should be bifurcated. Mr. Weber agreed.
Mr. Mielke asked about the 12 signature cards attached to the petition and asked
how the Board takes those into consideration. Chair Neal said that the signed cards
show that there is at least 30% of their membership interested in the petition, and if
they had not obtained those signatures, the union would not be at this step of a
petition. Ms. Cosgrove said that procedurally, when considering the propriety of a
BU, the desires of the employees is one of the things that is considered, but not the
sole determining factor. There are 100% of the employees in this case.
Mr. Allio said it would be good to review the change to the CBJ code and its effect
on the decision.
MOTION, by Pierce, to hold a meeting to perform an initial review of the changes to CBJ
44.10 and the Personnel Board Rules of Procedure to determine whether it would be
proper to review the previous decision or whether the Board is barred from considering
the matter. Hearing no objection, it was so ordered.
The Board set the following briefing schedule:
January 31, 2012 – Simultaneous Initial Briefs from both IUOE and CBJ
February 10, 2012 – Simultaneous Reply Briefs
(Briefs will be filed with the Municipal Clerk and may be filed electronically.)
IV. Agenda Items and Schedule for Next Meeting – Thursday, February 23, 2012,
4 – 6 p.m., with time allowed for each party to present information.
V. Adjournment – 12:50 p.m.
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Agenda
City and Borough of Juneau Personnel Board
Tuesday, January 10, 2012, Noon
City Hall Conference Room 224
AGENDA
I. Call to Order
II. Introductions
III. Approval of Minutes
1. May 10, 2011 Personnel Board Meeting Minutes
IV. International.Union of Operating Engineers - LOCAL 302
Request to petition the Juneau Personnel Board for creation of a separate bargaining
unit for the Airport Field Maintenance Workers
V. Agenda Items and Schedule for Next Meeting
VI. Adjournment