Personnel Board
Regular MeetingJuneau, AK · May 21, 2020
Minutes
City and Borough of Juneau Personnel Board
Thursday, May 21, 2020, 12:00 p.m.
Via Zoom Webinar
MINUTES
I. Call to Order
The meeting of the Personnel Board held virtually via Zoom webinar was called to order
by Acting Chair Judith Porter at 12:05 p.m.
Board Members Present: Judith Porter, Cindy Spanyers, Nancy Sutch, Rodney Hesson,
and Ken Southerland (Ken was stuck in attendee mode for most of the meeting.)
Members absent: None.
Staff Present: Human Resources/Risk Management (HRRM) Director Dallas Hargrave,
and Municipal Clerk Beth McEwen
II. Approval of Minutes
November 26, 2019 Personnel Board Meeting Minutes
MOTION, by Ms. Spanyers, to approve the minutes with a small correction to the top of
page 1 to reflect the year 2019 and asked for unanimous consent. Hearing no objection,
it was so ordered.
III. Roles and Responsibilities of the Personnel Board
HRRM Director Hargrave provided an overview of the scope, role, and duties of the
board as we out in Ordinance 94-12 and CBJ Code Section 44.05. He noted that copies of
all the materials were provided to the members in their binders and that the most recent
updates to the Personnel Rules, which may be amended from time to time by the
Assembly, could always be found on the CBJ website at https://juneau.org/human-
resources/personnel-rules.
Mr. Hargrave noted that in the four and half years that he has been in his position and
staff to the Personnel Board, they have not had to apply any of the duties of the board. He
and Ms. Porter noted that if/when they may have to step into a matter covered under
44.05 that the CBJ Law Department would provide point in time training on those
matters specifically to the board.
Mr. Hargrave noted that the Personnel Plan and the Labor Relations Plan are two
different sections of the CBJ Code. The Personnel Plan addresses more of the details of
the board are and are found in CBJ Code 44.05.060. The Labor Relations Plan is in 44.10
and covers more of how the labor relations are set up for CBJ. Lastly, Mr. Hargrave
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noted that the Personnel Board has its own Rules of Procedure that were also provided in
the board’s binders.
Mr. Hargrave said he does not foresee any issues coming up soon on the CBJ front that
may end up back before the Personnel Board.
Ms. Porter said in listening to the news and the economic situations unfolding if they saw
any of that having an impact on labor negotiations.
Mr. Hargrave noted that the Assembly Finance Committee (AFC) has been holding its
weekly budget meetings. He noted that two weeks prior, during an AFC meeting, Deputy
Manager Mila Cosgrove had provided a good overview of laying out the pros and cons
for the different strategies the Assembly could use on cost saving measures. He said that
where there are bargaining obligations, if they would like to make a change to bargaining
agreements. He said those are the discussions taking place in a public setting. He also
noted that there are currently negotiations going on with some of the unions and nothing
has changed yet with the current collective bargaining agreements.
Mr. Hargrave He said there is a specific portion of the workforce that is not represented.
He noted that the Assembly does have some leeway with making changes to the
Personnel Rules and while we don’t have any provisions in the collective bargaining
agreements related to furlough, we do have them in the Personnel Rules for the non-
bargaining employees. He said that in the next few years, if the Assembly directs the City
Manager to implement provisions for non-bargaining employees that are different from
bargaining employees that may trigger some activity before the Personnel Board. He also
noted that they has not been the City Manager nor the Assembly’s approach to things in
recent years. It may just depend on what the fiscal landscape looks like in the future and
where the Assembly wants to go with that.
IV. Annual Report for 2020
Mr. Hargrave and Ms. McEwen provided a proposed draft report to the board. Ms.
McEwen noted that the annual report is generally provided to the Assembly Human
Resources Committee at the time of the annual board appointments, which in the case of
the Personnel Board is in December or January of each year. Mr. Hargrave suggested that
unless there was something of significant change between now and December, he could
work with the Chair the Clerk to finalize the report for submission to the Assembly in
December. If there were cause to hold additional meetings between now and December,
the board could make changes to the annual report during those meetings. That
recommendation was approved by unanimous consent.
V. Election of Chair / Vice-Chair
Ms. Porter asked if anyone was not interested in serving as Chair or Vice-Chair before
she opened it up to nominations for the two positions. Ms. Spanyers said she was not
interested in serving as an officer. Ms. Porter then went through the membership roster
and the term ending dates for each of the current members. Ms. Porter that she will be
coming up at the end of the year for the end of her term and that she will be meeting her
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term limits. Ms. McEwen explained the code provisions does permit the Assembly to
reappoint a current member if they are at their term limit provided no other applicants
apply. Ms. Porter said she’d be happy to step down at the end of term to allow for a new
member to be appointed to that seat. She then opened the floor to nominations for the
Chair and Vice-Chair seats.
MOTION, by Ms. Porter to nominate Mr. Rodney Hesson as Chair of the Personnel
Board. Hearing no objection, Mr. Hesson was elected Chair of the Personnel Board.
MOTION, by Ms. Porter to nominate Ms. Nancy Sutch as Vice-Chair of the Personnel
Board. Hearing no objection, Ms. Sutch was elected Vice-Chair of the Personnel Board.
VI. Agenda Items and Schedule for Next Meeting
Mr. Hargrave noted that he was trying to put together an informational item that had been
provided in the past and that had to do with what percentage of the workforce was
included in the bargaining units vs. those who are not. He said that he wasn’t able to pull
all that information together for this meeting but rather than postponing that information
to the next meeting, if the board was amenable, he would send it to the board via email as
an informational item only. The board agreed that they would like it to be sent out via
email once Mr. Hargrave had something available.
The board discussed whether to try to schedule the next meeting sometime in December
or February and it was agreed upon that they would tentatively schedule it for February
11, 2021 at Noon.
Ms. Spanyers asked when the Bartlett Regional Hospital collective agreements would be
coming up for negotiations. Mr. Hargrave responded that BRH collective bargaining
agreement expires on December 31, 2020. He said that BRH has a history that have the
pay increases take place at the switch of the fiscal year which is July 1 and then hold
negotiations when the contract ends which will likely start in December. He said there is
new union leadership there and he isn’t sure if that will be the same process they will
chose to use going forward or not.
Ms. Sutch asked who the new union leadership with BRH is. Mr. Hargrave said that there
is an ER nurse who is the president, Holly Hunter. He said that some of the stewards are
the same but they elected new leadership.
Good of the order:
Ms. Porter said that she had been stuck in California at the beginning of the pandemic
and when she returned to Juneau, it was the strangest thing going through the Seattle
airport in April as there was no one around except the few people who came off the flight
she was on. She shared her experience about having gone through quarantine.
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Mr. Southerland, who had been stuck in attendee mode most of the meeting, said he
would be interested in hearing what might be happening on the school district front in
light of the pandemic. Mr. Hargrave gave a recap of some of the information that had
been covered at the Assembly Finance Committee meetings in recent discussions. He
noted that we are in some very uncertain times and there may be anything that comes up
during the next few months.
VII. Adjournment
There being no further business to come before the Personnel Board, the meeting
adjourned at 12:35 p.m.
Respectfully Submitted,
Elizabeth J. McEwen, MMC
Municipal Clerk
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