Ad Hoc Audit Committee
Regular MeetingLansing, MI · December 9, 2024
Agenda
AGENDA
Ad Hoc Audit Committee
December 9, 2024 at 4:00 PM
Lansing City Hall, City Council Conference Room
124 W. Michigan Avenue, 10th Floor
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Councilmember Peter Spadafore, Chairperson
Councilmember Tamera Carter, Vice Chairperson
Councilmember Trini Pehlivanoglu, Member
1. Call to Order
2. Roll Call
3. Minutes
A. November 18, 2024
4. Public Comment on Agenda Items (Up to 3 Minutes)
5. Discussion/Action:
B. Continued Discussion on a Defined Annual Audit Plan - Internal Auditor
C. DISCUSSION - Proposed Change to Council Rule 16 Standing Committee
D. DISCUSSION- 2025 Meeting Dates
6. Other
7. Adjourn
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AGENDA
Ad Hoc Audit Committee
December 9, 2024 at 4:00 PM
Lansing City Hall, City Council Conference Room
124 W. Michigan Avenue, 10th Floor
To provide input or ask questions on any item that is listed on the agenda,
members of the public may contact the City Council at city.council@lansingmi.gov or (517) 483-4177 prior to the meeting.
To participate in public copmment and view the meeting live: https://www.lansingmi.gov/1212/Council-Committee-Meetings
Councilmember Peter Spadafore, Chairperson
Councilmember Tamera Carter, Vice Chairperson
Councilmember Trini Pehlivanoglu, Member
1. Call to Order
2. Roll Call
3. Minutes
A. November 18, 2024
4. Public Comment on Agenda Items (Up to 3 Minutes)
5. Discussion/Action:
B. Continued Discussion on a Defined Annual Audit Plan - Internal Auditor
C. DISCUSSION - Proposed Change to Council Rule 16 Standing Committee
D. DISCUSSION- 2025 Meeting Dates
6. Other
7. Adjourn
Persons with disabilities who need an accommodation to fully participate in these meetings should contact the City
Council Office at 517-483-4177 (TTY 711) 24 hour notice may be needed for certain accommodations. An attempt
will be made to grant all reasonable accommodation requests.
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MINUTES
Ad Hoc Audit Committee
Monday, November 18, 2024 @ 4:00 p.m.
City Council Conference Room
CALL TO ORDER
Council Member Spadafore called the meeting to order at 4:07 p.m.
PRESENT
Council Member Peter Spadafore, Chair
Council Member Tamera Carter, Vice Chair- arrived at 4:08
Council Member Trini Pehlivanoglu, Member
OTHERS PRESENT
Sherrie Boak, Council Office Manager
Charles Randall, Internal Auditor
Lisa Hagen- Lawrence, OCA
Minutes
MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER PEHLIVANOGLU TO APPROVE THE MINUTES FROM
OCTOBER 28, 2024 AS PRESENTED. MOTION CARRIED 2-0.
Public Comment
No public comment at this time.
Discussion/Action:
Continued DISCUSSION – Defined Annual Audit Plan
Council Member Spadafore recapped the charge from the last meeting for the Internal Auditor.
After the update, this Committee will present feedback and if there is any changes those will be
made and submitted to Council on 12/16/2024 in their Committee report.
Council Member Pehlivanoglu asked, once this Committee approves and move forward, then will
Council have input as well. Council Memer Spadafore confirmed, however there is another
charge for the Committee as well before the report goes to Council, which is to decide if they want
to proceed with this Committee in the future as a permanent City Council Committee. Council
Member Spadafore concluded that if this Committee seeks to have that occur, they can look at a
resolution amending the Council Rules adding Committee on Audit.
Mr. Charles went through his proposed FY 2025 Audit plan, which has a priority using the payroll,
invoices and expense report as high audit areas. By looking at the City 2025 budget he would
look at the department spending, allocating out testing samples. For a control test, he believes
that you would not allocate it out if is being done the same in all departments. This will be same
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control testing, the samples will be sub-selected to each department. Police and fire have the
largest spending and payroll, therefore being first. There will be a focus on police and fire
beginning in December and running through February. Mr. Charles anticipates samples will not
be completed but carry over to March, because he anticipates questions. He will then begin
adding in Public service, Parks and others. Mr. Charles stated he plans to have all testing
completed in May and report out in June/July. The expense reporting will not be broken out by
department, because they are not balancing expenses on credit cards monthly.
Council Member Spadafore asked what his process will be for payroll. Mr. Charles stated that
there is an employee entering their time sheet, supervisor approving, using time to processing
payroll, then sent on to distribution.
Council Member Carter asked how he determined the number of samples. Mr. Randall stated
that normally for control you would do 45, and this is just to get a baseline for most departments.
This is over sampling, but wanted depth so they are aware the payroll and invoices are being
audited. Regarding invoicing, they depend on the department based on their monthly invoicing.
Council Member Carter asked for January, if the police and fire will carry over to March due to the
volume, and Mr. Charles confirmed he anticipates that, due to volume and potential questions.
Mr. Randall assured the Committee that he plans to provide monthly status reports to this
Committee.
Council Member Spadafore referred back to an earlier statement made where the audit would be
on expense reporting on credit cards, asking if there are also cash reimbursement expense
reports to be audited. Ms. Boak confirmed that the City does do expense reports, and Mr. Charles
stated he would ask Finance about that and see what the volume is.
Council Member Pehlivanoglu asked if the departments roll into later months then listed on the
timeline, will the sample numbers be adjusted. Mr. Charles assured the Committee that there
should be enough time, because with payroll the process is the same for everyone; not a lot of
variation. This is set for the highest number first, and depending on this committee feedback
could shut off.
Council Member Spadafore asked for Mr. Charles to make the update and the Committee will
finalize at their 12/9/2024 meeting, along with deliberation and action on a resolution to adopt the
audit plan and recommend a permanent audit Committee to the Council at their 12/16/2024
meeting.
OTHER
No other topics of discussion.
ADJOURN
Adjourned at 4:21 p.m.
Submitted by, Sherrie Boak,
Recording Secretary,
Lansing City Council
Approved by the Committee on
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5. B. - RESOLUTION
Continued Discussion
Defined Annual Audit Plan
Pending Document from Internal Auditor
Please continue to watch for updates
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CITY OF LANSING
INTERNAL AUDITOR
124 W MICHIGAN AVE FL 10
LANSING MI 48933-1605
(517) 483-4159
Date: November 18, 2024
To: Ad-Hoc Committee
From: Charles H Randall, Internal Auditor
Subject: 2025 Audit Plan
FY 2025 Audit Plan
Process Timeline & Sampling Allocation
Dec Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun
Process / Depts Police Police Fire Public Svc Park & Rec All Other Total Process
Payroll 18 55 57 2 7 11 150
Invoices 4 12 8 16 3 7 50
Total Dept 22 67 65 18 10 18 200
Non-Dept
Exp Rpt 10 0 0 5 5 5 25
Reporting Plan
Monthly Status Report @ first Ad-Hoc meeting of the month.
Department Control Report
Process Report
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Recommended Changes from the AD HOC on Audit Committee
BY THE CITY OPERATIONS
RESOLVED BY THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF LANSING
WHEREAS, pursuant to Rule 41 of the Lansing City Council Rules, a proposed rule
revision shall be placed on the Council Agenda for Council receipt and review, but “shall
not be considered for adoption sooner than the next council meeting”;
THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED that the City Council hereby amends the City Council
Rule 16 Standing Committees by inserting the Committee on Municipal Audit as set forth
below.
Rule 16 Standing Committees; the standing committees of Council and their functions are
as follows:
COMMITTEE ON MUNICIPAL AUDIT
An objective of the Committee is to provide guidance and oversight to the City Council
Internal Auditor in the performance of his/her responsibilities, create and review annual
audit plans, evaluate the financial position of the City.
The Committee on Municipal Audit will prepare an annual audit plan by June 30th each
year.
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