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Ad Hoc on Homelessness and Solutions

Regular Meeting

Lansing, MI · May 9, 2023

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MINUTES Ad Hoc on Homelessness & Solutions Tuesday, May 9, 2023 @ 3:30 p.m. City Council Conference Room, 10th Floor City Hall CALL TO ORDER Council Member Brown called the meeting to order at 3:42pm PRESENT Council Member Jeffrey Brown, Chair Council Member Adam Hussain, Vice Chair Council Member Patricia Spitzley, Member OTHERS PRESENT Renee Richmond, Council Staff Lisa Hagen-Lawrence, OCA Matt Staples, OCA Mike Lynn Ulices Rosa, 54A District Court Rita Dunlop Jody Washington MINUTES MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER SPITZLEY TO APPROVE THE MINUTES OF MARCH 28, 2023. MOTION CARRIED 3-0. MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER HUSSAIN TO AMMEND THE MINUTES OF APRIL 25, 2023 TO REMOVE LISA HAGEN-LAWRENCE AND ADD MATT STAPLES AS ATTENDING. MOTION CARRIED 3-0. DISCUSSION/ACTION DISCUSSION – Committee Recommendations and Reporting Councilmember Brown indicated there were no presentations today and wanted to review what’s been discussed previously and look towards recommendations and reporting out. Councilmember Spitzley noted the presenters so far have been very helpful but feels input from the Administration or HRCS is needed prior to any recommendations, otherwise what’s submitted is delegitimized. Councilmember Hussain agreed and mentioned bringing in County and State officials, the Committee has to report to COW by September 11th, but can continue meetings afterward until December 11th. Councilmember Spitzley spoke on last years Ad Hoc and suggested inviting Rep. Emily Dievendorf. Councilmember Brown then confirmed a few members of the Ingham County Board of Commissioners, and Councilmembers Hussain and Spitzley both suggested Rep. Elissa Slotkin, Sen. Sarah Anthony, and Sen. Sam Singh. Page 1 of 3 PUBLIC COMMENT Jody Washington spoke on that County Commissioners that she has talked to and that they have a bigger voice in the housing decision, it should be more regional and the reps are out there. She continued that one group/department should not be handling the money. Mike Lynn mentioned he received a call from Krystal at LSJ for an update on the 24/hr warming centers and that the Mayor came back with a 2.2 million dollar cost, with a breakdown of approximately $600,00 for a facility and $500,000 for staffing, etc. No address was given and the is was for just one building. Councilmember Spitzley mentioned last years conversation with the mayor was it can’t be one place and she had suggested opening Schmidt, Letts, Foster, and Gier Community Centers, but the response was a staffing issue and for people to work overnight was hard to find. Councilmember Brown commented he thought all these may fall with Bishop Maxwell and faith based initiative and getting volunteers. Ms. Washington added maybe open Otto as well, Derek Knox would open, the homeless can’t see the alerts on TVs or computers, churches have offered to open up, adding when the fledge opened it was sanctioned. Ulices Rosa mentioned he is currently trying to help a pregnant/homeless woman get into a shelter since Thursday, and the shelters say no. He also mentioned that the eviction side of things are higher since April 2019, passing pre-pandemic. During COVID people got all this money but nobody helped them be efficient with it, they just spent it and now are getting evicted. He added that he has tried helping over 500 families, need landlords involved, all state shelters. He concluded that they schedule people for eviction diversion but only about 10% may show up. Councilmember Brown asked how many staff Mr. Rosa had, he replied it was just him. Councilmember Spitzley stated as she recalls the Housing Ombudsman was created as the one stop for all folks, initially was looking at a legal background but not a lawyer, to offer direction and provide help with rental clinics, education and knowing their rights if evicted and/or red tagged, in addition to working with HRCS Department, work with all departments and based out of the Mayor’s Office. When the previous administration left, Joe McDonald needed somewhere to go and he was placed in this position and in HRCS. Councilmember Brown asked if Mr. Rosa is working with Joe, Mr. Rosa answered that Mr. McDonald will reach out monthly with some questions, what he does with the information he does not know. Rita Dunlop introduced herself, she is with RPOAMM, she wanted to come and see how she and other owners can help. Councilmember Brown asked if she’s worked with HRCS, she indicated she isn’t aware of who they are. Councilmember Brown then asked if her group works with the Housing Ombudsman to help the homeless get placed into units that they may have available, Mr. Dunlop answered at this time they are creating a list, she’s received lots of referrals, adding some owners are reluctant to rent/house to the homeless due to they’ve been isolated and may destroy property and vacant units will not be furnished. Councilmember Brown noted that working with HRCS can help with barriers, and addressing housing, mental health, rehabilitation, etc. Councilmember Brown asked how many owners, Mr. Rosa answered 135 landlords. Councilmember Spitzley made a recommendation to figure out how much to operate the existing community centers (Schmidt, Letts, Foster, Gier, and Otto). On average Lansing has 10 cold days/year, so to staff, have coffee and a Community Police Officer, maybe an EMS on hand. Ms. Hagen-Lawrence left at 4:50pm Councilmember Brown inquired budget wise about taking for example 200k from one department and 100k from another to support eviction prevention and warming centers. Councilmember Spitzley commented they continue with the same issue of too many people doing the same thing. Councilmember Hussain noted Mr. Rosa is doing what the housing ombudsman is doing. Page 2 of 3 Councilmember Brown asked if funding is going to the housing ombudsman, Councilmember Spitzley stated that is a question for the Internal Auditor. OTHER ADJOURN Adjourned at 4:54pm Submitted by Renee Richmond, Recording Secretary Lansing City Council Approved by the Committee on June 13, 2023 Page 3 of 3

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AGENDA AD HOC on Homelessness & Solutions AGENDA FOR MAY 9, 2023 AT 3:30 PM Lansing City Hall, City Council Conference Room 124 W. Michigan Avenue, 10th Floor To provide input or ask questions on any item that is listed on the agenda, members of the public may contact the City Council at city.council@lansingmi.gov or (517) 483-4177 prior to the meeting. view on: https://www.youtube.com/@lansingcitycouncil4446/streams Council Member Brown, Chairperson Council Member Hussain, Vice Chairperson Council Member Spitzley, Member 1. Call to Order 2. Roll Call 3. Minutes A. March 28, 2023 B. April 25, 2023 4. Discussion/Action: C. DISCUSSION - Committee Recommendations and Reporting 5. Public Comment on Agenda Items (Up to 2 Minutes) 6. Other 7. Adjourn Persons with disabilities who need an accommodation to fully participate in these meetings should contact the City Council Office at 517-483-4177 (TTY 711) 24 hour notice may be needed for certain accommodations. An attempt will be made to grant all reasonable accommodation requests.

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AGENDA AD HOC on Homelessness & Solutions AGENDA FOR MAY 9, 2023 AT 3:30 PM Lansing City Hall, City Council Conference Room 124 W. Michigan Avenue, 10th Floor To provide input or ask questions on any item that is listed on the agenda, members of the public may contact the City Council at city.council@lansingmi.gov or (517) 483-4177 prior to the meeting. view on: https://www.youtube.com/@lansingcitycouncil4446/streams Council Member Brown, Chairperson Council Member Hussain, Vice Chairperson Council Member Spitzley, Member 1. Call to Order 2. Roll Call 3. Minutes A. March 28, 2023 B. April 25, 2023 4. Discussion/Action: C. DISCUSSION - Committee Recommendations and Reporting 5. Public Comment on Agenda Items (Up to 2 Minutes) 6. Other 7. Adjourn Persons with disabilities who need an accommodation to fully participate in these meetings should contact the City Council Office at 517-483-4177 (TTY 711) 24 hour notice may be needed for certain accommodations. An attempt will be made to grant all reasonable accommodation requests. Page 1 of 8 MINUTES Ad Hoc on Homelessness & Solutions Tuesday, March 28, 2023 @ 3:30 p.m. City Council Conference Room, 10th Floor City Hall CALL TO ORDER Council Member Brown called the meeting to order at 3:30pm PRESENT Council Member Jeffrey Brown, Chair Council Member Adam Hussain, Vice Chair - excused Council Member Patricia Spitzley, Member OTHERS PRESENT Renee Richmond, Council Staff Lisa Hagen-Lawrence, OCA Dr. Adenike Shoyinka, Medical Health Officer ICHC Kris Drake, Executive Director, ICHC Rosalyn Williams Marcy Doozan Cheryl Campbell Sara Fase Shelia & Steve Antes Chrsitopher Mike Karl Greg Pratt Tesha Reeves Judge Cynthia Ward, 54A District Court Ulices Rosa, 54A District Court Michael Lynn Farhan Sheikh-Omar Kyle Richard Jody Washington Linda Appling Gail Sawyer Schnika McKissic Sherri Davio Linda Karl Belinda Fitzpatrick Jeffrey Filip MINUTES MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER SPITZLEY TO APPROVE THE MINUTES OF MARCH 14, 2023, AS PRESENTED. MOTION CARRIED 2-0. Page 1 of 4 Page 2 of 8 PRESENTATIONS Ingham Community Health Centers Dr. Shoyinka acknowledged the great turnout from the public, introducing herself she is the Chief Medical Officer for Ingham County and they are a federal health center and department that gives them the opportunity to provide a range of services up to primary care. ICHC is essentially a comprehensive primary care and can provide other care as needed, created patient center so providers can give and overcome barriers. They have 11 sites throughout Lansing with one dedicated to those experiencing homelessness under 330H program that provides federal grants, and others with Behavioral Health Services, Substance Abuse, General Health, and Nursing Services within Holy Cross. Adding the Community Health workers are the main connection to those that walk in, once they do they get a housing assessment, and whether they need food, vouchers, legal resources, clothing, etc. Councilmember Brown asked that she talks about Holy Cross is that their facility, she stated no, they are just located in the building and just lease space. Councilmember Spitzley asked out of the 11 sites where are they located. Mr. Drake indicated all 11 are throughout the Greater Lansing area, some free standing and some in schools like Eastern, Sexton, Pattengill, Gardner, and Everett. Willow Community Health Center on Pennsylvania, the one at Holy Cross, Birch Community Center on Jolly, and the Human Services Building holds the Women’s Health Center, they also have a mobile dental service. Councilmember Brown asked if the New Hope Health Center at Holy Cross is only accessible by those at Holy Cross, Mr. Drake responded no those who identify as homeless can access any location. Councilmember Spitzley stated for the ones located in the schools she is worried about accessibility but sounds like they are off major bus lines, Mr. Drake confirmed and they offer vouchers as well. Councilmember Brown asked about any other organizations besides those mentioned that they are partnering with. Dr. Shoyinka restated there are 15 of the 330h federal funded to specifically provide services, there are other free clinics that they’ve partnered with in the past but were dismantled during the Pandemic. He continued Spartan Street Medicine included vaccinations, minor wound care and referrals to the ER when needed. Councilmember Brown asked they had a number on how many homeless, Dr. Shoyinka said that is difficult to give a certain number, when you think of housing one indicator is number of those who use more than 30% of income, that is 1/3 of our population, East Lansing is #1 and that is at 48%, Lansing is at 46%. Councilmember Spitzley mentioned EL is skewed because of the students. Councilmember Brown asked how many served at new hope and Dr. Shoyinka said in 2021 it was 2,250 which would be 8% in all 15 sites across the state, with approximately 30,000 served total in all programs. Councilmember Brown asked for clarification when she mentions statewide, Dr. Shoyinka repeated that ICHC is federal funded in the 330h, there are 15 sites and they share one with New Hope. Adding that in Michigan they service 30,000 and that is our 2,250. Councilmember Brown asked how many patients, Mr. Drake answered appropriately 20,000 – 30,000 and nearly 2,250 of them are homeless. Dr. Shoyinka stated they don’t have numbers for 2023, in 2022 it was about 2,137. Mr. Drake included in 2020 was about 2,259 (hard to say because of COVID). Dr. Shoyinka added that 2019 and 2018 would be close to the same but shelters couldn’t take as many people because of isolation. Dr. Shoyinka concluded that even though they don’t do direct care they identify homelessness as a public heath crisis and want to make sure they are having conversations with the right people. DISCUSSION/ACTION DISCUSSION – Rosalyn Williams; Lansing Resident Advocate Discussion Human Relations & Community Services and Red Tags Ms. Williams said she is here as a resident of Autumn Ridge, Councilmember Spitzley asked if she was talking on behalf of HRCS or not. Councilmember Brown said no her and him have been in conversation about red tags and she is facing homelessness. Ms. Williams continued that AR has 600+ units and she was pink tagged Nov. 2019 with a simple violation of the ventilation needing cleaning and the complex didn’t get it done. Adding the unit next to her is horrible having mice and bed bugs and she paid to have it cleaned because she didn’t want it in her place. But it is still not up to Page 2 of 4 Page 3 of 8 code and AR never shows up when you call, now seeing pests, on Feb. 24th the furnace went out and AR brought her two space heaters to heat bedrooms upstairs and living area, she had to turn the oven on it was red tagged by code and she was told to leave. Councilmember asked if between it being pink and red tagged to best of her knowledge was code there, Ms. Williams responded yes that Dave Klein always comes out. Ms. Williams indicated to was injured and Councilmember Spitzley asked if it was onsite, she answered yes, they had some palettes out that covered some ground and it was wobbly and she stepped on it and it tilted and broke. Councilmember Brown asked where she’s been staying since February and she said a hotel, that they offered a City hotel but that one is horrible so she went to a different one, she was told she still can’t go home, Consumers shut gas off, maintenance took the tag off, so she can’t live there. Councilmember Spitzley asked if she’s spoke to the Housing Ombudsman and asked for a yes or no, Ms. Williams said yes and he told her he couldn’t do anything for her. Councilmember Spitzley asked if he’s provided counseling or your rights, she said no she’s been doing it on her own. Councilmember Brown asked what her experience with the City has been, she said they offered to pay her BWL, but she calls one person they say someone else will call back and nobody ever does, and Mr. McDonald asked her if she looked at Zillow and HRCS is no help. Councilmember Brown and Spitzley confusingly asked about the City hotel, and Ms. Williams said she didn’t want to say the name and just knew what hotel they wanted to send her to and it is off S. Pennsylvania by the car dealership. Councilmember Spitzley stated that they’ve been dealing with AR for some time and didn’t know if she could speak, Ms. Hagen-Lawrence stated that litigation is no longer active. Councilmember Spitzley asked Ms. Williams if she had three suggestions what were they, and Ms. Williams replied: 1. take red tags and offer to residents who want to be homeowners despite credit 2. make people that run the programs live in them 3. do your job, make people accountable and talk to the people DISCUSSION – Committee Intention CM Brown said he was going to bypass this as the intention of the committee has been stated several times. PUBLIC COMMENT Mike Karl spoke on HMIS again and gave a handout to the Committee of guidelines and said he handed out to people and added that if the homeless ask for a HMIS number they are threatened to be removed. Sheila Antes spoke on three family’s homes are red tagged and code won’t release because the landlord doesn’t have property listed as a rental, he’s taken $40,000 from these families that put money into fixing issues. Advent House said they would only help women/children so the men are sleeping in cars. She continues that every time she calls Joe McDonald he doesn’t call back. Councilmember Brown asked if she escalated the call to Director Coleman of HRCS, Ms. Antes said no, she hasn’t heard that name. Councilmember Spitzley regrettably stated the person that spend $40,000 on repairs doesn’t own the house and the landlord doesn’t have a rental certificate, it is the responsibility of the landlord. Mike Lynn spoke on financial accountability to the landlords and hitting them in the pocket, they’ve been having red tag convo’s since 2019. Councilmember Spitzley agreed and stated they were fining and sending notices to Autumn Ridge. Mr. Lynn acknowledged that Code is extremely understaffed, and Councilmember Spitzley said it is budget time and Council speaks through resolution so it will be looked at. Then asked Ms. Hagen-Lawrence to share the penalty of removal, Ms. Hagen-Lawrence Page 3 of 4 Page 4 of 8 responded it is a criminal misdemeanor with $500 fine and 90 days in jail but has not seen any recently but is limited in her role. Greg Pratt spoke on that he is with 7th Day Adventist Outreach and every Thursday is handing out sleeping bags, food, jackets, and hand warmers. He believes the Mayor needs a city of emergency for the homeless, he witnessed that pass Friday four LPD officers evicted a homeless person out of a shed without calling a social worker. Finished that there are only two shelters for men, they are all full and in winter nowhere to go. Cheryl Campbell spoke on being homeless for two years, advent house paid for a hotel, but HMIS report is blank and shows she is a single person and she had six people in her family that are right now in a hotel. She is working two jobs, kids aren’t going to school no what to get there, averaging three hours of sleep because all of them are sleeping sideways on the bed. Finishing that she qualifies for rapid housing but nothing in the HMIS report. Councilmember Spitzley stepped out of the meeting at 4:42pm. Councilmember Brown paused the meeting with no quorum present at the time. Councilmember Brown reconvened at 4:46pm Councilmember Brown asked if she contacted HRCS, Ms. Campbell said no. Farhan Sheikh-Omar spoke on the only difference now is the news is covering this and the mayor is not standing up because nobody has a plan on how to fix, need a concrete plan moving forward. He continued maybe hire outside investigator to look into it, it’s a disgrace what’s happening in this city. Schnika McKissic is a resident of Lansing, works for the school district, a health science master, and receiving disability section 8 voucher and is being evicted from 212 E. Cavanaugh Rd which has never been up to code. She moved into the home in 2019, LHC was supposed to inspect and owner stole $20,000 because nothing was ever fixed. Ms. McKissic paid upfront and doesn’t own anything and she was forcefully removed and evicted on February 6, 2023. Jody Washington spoke on the HRCS meeting tonight at 5:30pm and asked Ms. Richmond if she could look up the locations. Continuing that America’s Best and Causeway are the worst hotels possible. She is told from Advent House they run out of money all the time and she doesn’t understand how when the get so much. Kyle Richard spoke on his great love for the city and he was a teacher at Sexton. Knew people at Autumn Ridge and the recent letter to the Fledge from the City is disgraceful. Adding to not discount the power of their voice and letterhead, City Hall could’ve opened during the Code Blue for a 24/7 shelter. Linda Appling spoke on the city establishing legal aid for those evicted and red tagged, the City of Detroit has it, and Councilmember Spitzley stated Wayne County does too. Ms. Appling continued that the bus services in the city are horrible. Pat walked out at 5:03, guy upset at being ignored, no quorum. OTHER ADJOURN Adjourned at 5:11pm Submitted by Renee Richmond, Recording Secretary Lansing City Council Approved by the Committee on Page 4 of 4 Page 5 of 8 MINUTES Ad Hoc on Homelessness & Solutions Tuesday, April 25, 2023 @ 3:30 p.m. City Council Conference Room, 10th Floor City Hall CALL TO ORDER Council Member Brown called the meeting to order at 3:30pm PRESENT Council Member Jeffrey Brown, Chair Council Member Adam Hussain, Vice Chair Council Member Patricia Spitzley, Member - excused OTHERS PRESENT Renee Richmond, Council Staff Lisa Hagen-Lawrence, OCA Erika Brown-Binion, Executive Director Refugee Development Center Mark Pierce, Executive Director Disability Network Center Ulices Rosa, 54A District Court Judge Ward, District Court Jazmine Anderson Belinda Fitzpatrick MINUTES MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER HUSSAIN TO APPROVE THE MINUTES OF APRIL 11, 2023 AND TABLE MARCH 28, 2023, AS PRESENTED. MOTION CARRIED 2-0. PRESENTATIONS Refugee Development Center; Erika Brown-Binion, Executive Director Ms. Brown-Binion gave an overview of the RDC, they have been around for 21 years, they exist because Lansing is a welcome space for refugees, they are the largest program with about 400. When they first arrive, they have the support of case management, most come in speaking different languages so they teach them English, tutoring from k-12, all this is within the first 90 days. They help find employment and to be self-sufficient, in finding apartments or housing. They have a home visiting program for new families with an interpreter and help navigate housing and help with health education along with housing education. Most refuges come from Afghanistan, Syria, Sudan, Iran, Iraq, and more. Councilmember Brown asked what she is seeing in Lansing and how it’s effecting the RDC from the past 10 years, does she have any solutions. Ms. Brown-Binion acknowledged they don’t see much homelessness compared to the general population. For the most part culturally refugees live in larger family units than typical, and they emphasize the prevention stages that is one reason they added the housing navigation so they engage in home ownership and not land contract to get taken advantage of. Page 1 of 3 Page 6 of 8 Councilmember Hussain asked in terms of regional partners who else is opening up or is it just mainly Lansing. Ms. Brown-Binion noted resettlement happens all over like, Grand Rapids, Greater Detroit, Kalamazoo, Battle Creek, and Traverse City. Once they first resettle most end up staying and building roots, only a few may move. Disability Network Capital Area; Mark Pierce, Executive Director Mr. Pierce stated he has been with DNC for nine years, they have been around for 47 years and service Ingham, Clinton, Eaton, and Shiawassee Counties. Their Mission Statement is – Transforming thinking to improve the environment and quality of life for people with disabilities. The agency serviced 516 consumers (people), closed out 112, and 30% were minority. One of the biggest concerns is they served 47 consumers that came through direct services and they couldn’t speak for themselves. Councilmember Brown asked of those were they homeless and families or individuals, Mr. Pierce responded yes and they only serve individuals, the biggest services is social security benefits, it’s a huge piece, whether it’s just that or Medicaid. Mr. Pierce shared a quick story of a person that came from the hospital that had their toes amputated and lived on the street and ended up back in the hospital after being robbed. Social Worker called a transition specialist and they were able to connect with him and get an ID card and into adult protective services. The person is now in the process of getting a checking account at MSUFCU and bringing some normality. Mr. Pierce added that homelessness means no name on a lease or mortgage, no address for mail. They partnership with other agencies like the Rescue Mission, Haven House, VOA, and more, he then handed out a list for the record that his staff uses to help with hotels or center, etc. Councilmember Brown asked would he say they’ve helped about 10% of the people with homelessness, Mr. Pierce noted the big issue landlords, apartments or house that are red tagged, the person with disabilities have no where to go and may access a red tag just to have somewhere to go, they’ve seen a huge increase because you have interest rates that increase, constraints on Section 8 and the amount of money that is made. Councilmember Brown asked if he was saying people with disabilities are living in red tag houses then having to leave, his response was yes and if they could know ahead of time maybe they could work with them. With the Rescue Mission there is a process they get categorized and some don’t understand what is happening. Councilmember Brown asked if he could categorize the people, he services what type of disability stands out that are experiencing homelessness the most, Mr. Pierce said no specific disability stands out but if they have a guardian, they are better off rather than speaking for themselves. In most cases the disability could be emotional, developmental, or intellectual and they don’t know what resources they have. Councilmember Brown asked if he would agree there is a gap of support for those with moderate disabilities who aren’t able to advocate for themselves, Mr. Pierce agreed adding that during COVID people got assistance with rent and those with disabilities could fill out the paperwork. Councilmember Hussain asked what he thought the City could do better with the housing navigation, red tags, gaps for service, sounds like these are leading to the increase in homelessness. Mr. Pierce stated trying to find/create enough places ahead of time but it’s difficult, there is a 400% increase and if you have 100 homeless how do you find that many. He included just brainstorming but if your unemployed and you get unemployment the employer pays insurance, what if there was red tag insurance, like some people are required to have fire insurance or car insurance. Councilmember Hussain asked him how other municipality partners doing since you serve four counties. Mr. Pierce said he didn’t have a definite answer, rural areas are closed mouth and don’t want to talk about it like the inner city is willing. He concluded Lansing, Kalamazoo, places with universities are different they have options not like smaller cities. Page 2 of 3 Page 7 of 8 DISCUSSION/ACTION DISCUSSION – Committee Intention for next meeting The Committee concurred for the next meeting no presenters and to start discussing strategy and how to tackle the issues. PUBLIC COMMENT Judge Ward spoke on information she received regarding the special meeting on red tags and questions for Court Administration and what’s been filed. She added that numbers were run over the last three years and types of filing for rentals and housing, they are looking over everything and she needs to speak to someone and digest everything before reporting back, she just wanted to give an update. Belinda Fitzpatrick noted she likes the idea of oca looking into the insurance portion to see if that is possible for landlords to get to avoid eviction. Also, that the term “hoarder” is a protective class and that it’s something DNC may run into. Ulices Rosa requested to ask the presenters a question, Councilmember Brown agreed. Mr. Rosa stated to Ms. Brown-Binion that the refugee’s getting work within 30-60 days is amazing and that 90% are experiencing income loss and those are getting hired. Ms. Brown-Binion explained that at the federal level they must find work immediately, whether it’s at McDonald’s or elsewhere, and most are minimum level wage positions. She added that Peckham helps, some refugee’s have PTSD and it may not be their first choice position but it’s something, including that self sufficiency is the ultimate goal within 90 days. Mr. Rosa asked Mr. Pierce who he thinks he handles more of for their evicted people when it comes to disabilities. Mr. Pierce stated there is a stigma around people they don’t want to identify as disabled, they do awareness assessments and we would gladly welcome those evicted and please reach out to us, Mr. Rosa confirmed. OTHER ADJOURN Adjourned at 4:24pm Submitted by Renee Richmond, Recording Secretary Lansing City Council Approved by the Committee on Page 3 of 3 Page 8 of 8