Committee on Intergovernmental Relations
Regular MeetingLansing, MI · December 11, 2019
Minutes
MINUTES
Committee on Intergovernmental Relations
Wednesday, December 11, 2019 @ 8:00 a.m.
Council Conference Room, City Hall
CALL TO ORDER
The meeting called to order at 8:05 a.m.
ROLL CALL
Council Member Brian T. Jackson, Chairperson
Council Member Jeremy Garza, Vice Chairperson
Councilmember Kathie Dunbar, Member - arrived at 8:09 a.m.
OTHERS PRESENT
Sherrie Boak, Council Office Manager
Lisa Hagen, Assistant City Attorney, Council Research Assistant
Jim Smiertka, City Attorney – arrived at 8:15 a.m.
Joe Abood, Chief Deputy City Attorney
Kris Wisneiwski
Elaine Fischhoff
Randy Dykhuis
Theresa Lark
PUBLIC COMMENT
No Public Comment at this time.
MINUTES
MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER GARZA TO APPROVE THE MINUTES FROM OCTOBER
23, 2019 AS PRESENTED. MOTION CARRIED 2-0.
DISCUSSION/ACTION
DISCUSSION–Report on the Progress of the Climate Action Plan Project
Council Member Jackson explained that he was contacted by Ms. Erhardt requesting more time
and proposed 2/28/2020. Council Member Garza asked she had anything to provide now, and
Council Member Jackson noted she was pleased the City joined the ICLEI (International Council
for Local Environmental Initiatives) and hoped this would help.
MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER GARZA TO APPROVE THE RESOLUTION TO EXTEND
THE DEADLINE WITH COMMONS LOGIC LLC TO 2/28/2020. MOTION CARRIED 3-0.
REPORT FROM THE 2019 COMMITTEE
Council Member Jackson distributed a report he drafted for the Committee review and action.
The Committee determined it should reference “Commons Logic LLC” not “Ann”, “Anne” or
“Erhardt”. Ms. Fischoff asked if the resolution she wrote would be added to the report and they
would take action on it. Council Member Dunbar asked if it was the one many have seen from
the League of Women Voters, and that was confirmed. Council Member Jackson stated he did
receive the draft resolution from Ms. Fischoff however was not ready to act on it because there
would nothing to come from it at this time. Mr. Wisnewski asked the Committee if they advised
for the resolution to be introduced after the Council got the report and CPA from Commons
Logic LLC, and Council Member Jackson acknowledged that suggestion, but could not provide
an exact time to propose it. Ms. Fischoff asked if they could recommend the group come to the
2nd Council meeting in January to speak at public comment on it, and then submitted a budget
request she delivered to the Mayor as well. The Committee began the review again on the
report ad Council Member Dunbar asked for discussion on the 4th paragraph, 3rd line “that the
City of Lansing’s Administration was slow to respond and/or nonresponsive to the requested
information.”, noting the statement appears as if the “Mayor” did not response, and suggested it
be changed to “City of Lansing’s Departments were..” She added that in her conversations with
the Mayor, he assured her that if the Departments were not responding to Commons Logic, LLC
they should contact him directly, and since Ms. Erhardt is not present she could not confirm or
deny that Ms. Erhardt had contacted the Mayor directly. Council Member Jackson did not fully
support the change, and Council Member Garza did support the change and suggested “due to
the amount of information requested, it took longer than anticipated.” Council Member Jackson
again appealed stated from the Committee point of view in this report, per the minutes from past
meetings, they are aware she had asked for information and struggled to get it. Mr. Smiertka
suggested placing specifics in the document of the information still pending, however Council
Member Jackson stated that since Ms. Erhardt was not present, no one was aware of what was
missing since the October report in the packet, and he added he did not want the report to state
“Ms. Erhardt said…” The Committee agreed to change the 4th paragraph to state:
The Committee became aware that Commons Logic, LLC progress was impeded by the lack of
data and information that she needed relating to City Departments and operations. The Committee was
also informed that a faster data transfer would have helped Commons Logic, LLC complete their
reporting in a timely fashion and within the original timeline. For these reasons, the Committee approved
Commons Logic, LLC extension in the contract length.
Lastly the Committee added “create/” in front of “implement” in the last line of the report.
MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER GARZA TO APPROVE THE REPORT AS AMENDED.
MOTION CARRIED 3-0.
Other
Council Member Jackson assured the public that he hopes to sit on this Committee again in
2020, and will continue to pursue the sustainability manager position in the budget.
Adjourned at 8:40 a.m.
Submitted by,
Sherrie Boak, Council Officer Manager
Lansing City Council
Placed on file 11/17/2020
Agenda
AGENDA
Committee on Intergovernmental Relations
Wednesday, December 11, 2019 @ 8:00 a.m.
Council Conference Room, City Hall 10th Floor
Council Member Brian T. Jackson, Chair
Council Member Jeremy Garza, Vice Chair
Council Member Kathie Dunbar, Member
1. Call to Order
2. Public Comment
3. Approval of Minutes
October 23, 2019
4. Discussion/Action:
A.) DISCUSSION/RESOLUTION–Report on the Progress of the Climate
Action Plan Project – Commons Logic, LLC
B.) 2019 Report from the Committee
5. Adjourn
DRAFT
MINUTES
Committee on Intergovernmental Relations
Wednesday, October 23, 2019 @ 8:00 a.m.
Council Conference Room, City Hall
CALL TO ORDER
The meeting called to order at 8:06 a.m.
ROLL CALL
Council Member Brian T. Jackson, Chairperson – left at 8:23 a.m.
Council Member Jeremy Garza, Vice Chairperson – arrived at 8:09 a.m.
Councilmember Kathie Dunbar, Member
OTHERS PRESENT
Sherrie Boak, Council Office Manager
Lisa Hagen, Assistant City Attorney, Council Research Assistant
Joe Abood, Chief City Attorney
Ann Erhadt, Commons Logic
Stephanie White, MSU
Elaine Fischhoff
Sharon Bannon
PUBLIC COMMENT
No Public Comment at this time.
MINUTES
MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER DUNBAR TO APPROVE THE MINUTES FROM
SEPTEMBER 25, 2019 AS PRESENTED. MOTION CARRIED 2-0.
DISCUSSION/ACTION
DISCUSSION–Report on the Progress of the Climate Action Plan Project
Ms. White introduced herself and stated she is currently a MSU faculty member and working on
the research in urban agriculture and how climate change effect that.
Ms. Erhardt distributed her 10/23/2019 Climate Action Plan Project Update (attached). She
then highlighted what tasks had been performed that she was waiting on. Those included an
inquiry into the purchase of International Council for Local Environmental Initiatives (ICLEI)
membership and access to their framework at a cost of $1,750.00. The program was outlined
as offering services in conjunction with City of East Lansing, and service beneficial to the future
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Sustainability Coordinator. The status on this was pending the Mayor’s Office. The next item
Ms. Erhardt outlined in her report was the data collection process where she acknowledged that
sometimes there is not data needed, and in some cases, there are only 1-2 months’ worth of
data available so it does not give much of a baseline. Ms. Erhardt confirmed she has been in
contact with LBWL (Shelly Starkey), but even with the City liaison of Andy Kilpatrick she is
struggling to get detailed information from the City departments, and some inventory is less
detailed, so the result will have less detailed analysis. Council Member Dunbar offered to
provide Ms. Erhardt with the phone number for Marty Riel, City Property Maintenance Director.
Ms. Erhardt then confirmed a survey has been sent out to the Department Directors and it was
forwarded to Council Member Jackson and Dunbar. Ms. Boak asked that the survey be sent to
her for the record and to Council Member Garza, Committee Vice Chairperson.
Council Member Jackson asked, if the details are reduced and lead to a reduced analysis, if the
plan would be so basic and the recommendations would be basic, so she might not even need
the data. Ms. Erhardt yes, but it is an exercise that has not been done before. At this time,
Council Member Dunbar stated she would text the Mayor’s office directly on the status of the
ICLEI membership request.
Council Member Jackson acknowledged that the deadline is 12/31/2019; however, he
encouraged Ms. Erhardt not to rush just to finish, but base it on the data and a plan. Ms.
Erhardt confirmed the plan by 12/31/2019 with high-level strategy and recommendations. She
acknowledged that currently she has only billed $3,000 out of the budgeted $14,000, and it will
not be so high level that it would not be useful, but high enough to make plans. Council
Member Jackson asked what the Committee could do to assist in obtaining information, and Ms.
Erhardt acknowledged that she has been working with Mr. Kilpatrick, but what should have been
done in the beginning was the formation of “team” to work around this.
Council Member Jackson asked her if the recommendation was going to deal with SMART
infrastructure to connect the renewables from the surrounding regions, and he was told that is
out of the scope of work where she is at now, because the City is in the early stage of the
climate action plan. In addition, idea like that, she added, would be on the horizon, but need to
take care of these first steps. Lastly, Council Member Jackson asked if her recommendation
would include a Sustainability Coordinator, and she confirmed and even recommended a
Commission of volunteers that work on various topics, similar to East Lansing.
Council Member Jackson left the meeting and Vice Chairperson continued the meeting.
Council Member Dunbar stated her opinion that Mr. Kilpatrick must not be communicating with
Mayor Schor, so she would instigate a communication with both of them.
Council Member Garza asked if Ms. Erhardt recommendation includes addressing energy on a
daily use. She admitted that the plan right now is the strategy for the City, but they are looking at
the levels used, the carbon footprint, and in the future working with purchasing, so addressing
daily use would be later. Council Member Dunbar suggested brining in Lori Welch with the City
Recycling Department at a later meeting. Council Member Garza asked Ms. Erhardt if she has
reached out to other businesses in the City and his example was hospitals who he believed do
not recycle. Mr. Erhardt confirmed she has not done anything laterally now, but something can
be done down the line. She then noted that East Lansing has a Commission working on the
waste stream in their City and the City of Lansing could work on a regional approach.
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Ms. Fischhoff asked the Committee what they suggested the public state to the Council at the
future budget meetings to assist with the project. Council Member Dunbar was in supportive of
more staffing, and a designated staff in each department. Council Member Garza posed the
question of if Mark Lawrence in the Mayor’s office could be the City point person, and Council
Member Dunbar agreed since his position, Citizen Advocate, is the front line to most citizen
calls.
Ms. Fischhoff presented the Committee with details on an upcoming Sustainability Conference
on November 20-November 21 that the State of Michigan is hosting.
Council Member Garza asked Ms. Erhardt if East Lansing had a Sustainability Manager and
was informed they do and she could provide the Committee with a summary of how that position
was created and a job description.
Adjourned at 8:37 a.m.
Submitted by,
Sherrie Boak, Council Officer Manager
Lansing City Council
Approved ___________________
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BY THE COMMITTEE ON INTERGOVERNMENTAL RELATIONS
RESOLVED BY THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF LANSING
WHEREAS, Resolution 2019-071 determined funding and the project scope for the
Phase 1 of the City of Lansing Climate Action Planning Project; and
WHEREAS, the contractor, Commons Logics, LLC through the Committee on
Intergovernmental Relations was to provide the deliverables to include the final report
summarizing all data, findings and recommended next steps for implementation and
subsequent phases no later than December 31, 2019 pursuant to an extension granted
in August, 2019 under Resolution 2019-053; and
WHEREAS, the contractor, Commons Logic, LLC is not able to provide the project data
collection and analysis by the extended deadline of December 31, 2019 and therefore
the completion date will be extended to ______________.
NOW THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED, the contractor, Commons Logics, LLC through
the Committee on Intergovernmental Relations is to provide the deliverables to include
the final report summarizing all data, findings and recommended next steps for
implementation and subsequent phases no later than______________________.
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