Joint Public Works & Environmental Concerns and Public Safety & Transportation Committees
Regular MeetingLombard, IL · July 12, 2017
Minutes
Village of Lombard
Village Hall
255 East Wilson Ave.
Lombard, IL 60148
villageoflombard.org
Minutes
Wednesday, July 12, 2017
7:00 PM
Lorraine G. Gerhardt Community Room
Joint Public Works & Environmental Concerns and
Public Safety & Transportation Committees
Trustee Bill Ware, Art Kuehl, John Kaforski, Mark Dvorak,
Mike Kuderna, David Arnold, Joe Glazier, Robert Bachner
Trustee Dan Whittington, Jennifer Perkins, Michael Corso,
John Larkin, John Schwarz, Bob Corbino,
Gary Cation, Jerry Schaefer, John Mullins
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1.0 Call to Order and Pledge of Allegiance
Chairperson Ware called the meeting to order at 7:05 p.m.
2.0 Roll Call
Present 15 - Arthur Kuehl, John Kaforski, Mark Dvorak, Mike Kuderna, David Arnold,
Joe Glazier Jr., Robert Bachner, Dan Whittington, Jennifer Perkins, Corso,
John Larkin Jr., John Schwarz, Gary Cation, John Mullins, and Bill Ware
Absent 2 - Bob Corbino, and Jerry Shaefer
Others Present:
Scott Niehaus, Village Manager
Carl Goldsmith, Director of Public Works
Sgt. Grage, Police Department
Asst. Chief Howell, Fire Department
Matthew Lew, Civil Engineer, Public Works Department
Jason Souden, Christopher B. Burke Engineering, LTD
3.0 Public Participation
Ken Gault, 113 S. Westmore-Meyers
Mr. Gault stated that he has lived there for 17 years and has a
background as a landscape architect, which he has been practicing for
40 years, and living on Westmore he sees it every single day. One
family member was involved in a rear-end accident. He went on to say
that sometimes we make problems worse and he would hate to see
this situation made worse. He saw that 50% of the accidents were rear
or left turn accidents, but one of the things not talked about is the
speed limit. The limit is 30 mph, but nobody does that. It's probably the
number one cause of all of these accidents. He added that speed is
his number one concern. He drives from Maple to 22nd twice a day.
When he passes Roosevelt the County cops are there. Also need to
look at how residents are going to be effected. He commented that he
thinks there is no benefit to it. If the Village puts in what is proposed,
when he's cutting grass cars will whiz by at 40 mph. At the same time
he sees problems with garbage collection, UPS deliveries and school
buses. He also sees a problem with the Pace bus that stops at
Washington. He asked if anybody has looked at the major traffic
study; why would you take four lanes and squeeze it in the middle.
Alexandria Wallace, 120 S. Westmore-Meyers
Ms. Wallace stated that she would like to voice her concern about the
proposal. She went on to say that she has looked through the plan
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from 2016 and understands the proposed project would decrease the
roadway to one lane each direction and a bike lane. She personally
feels there are plenty of left turn lanes/arrows along that street. In the
study it talks about potential left turn movements northbound between
Wilson and Madison there are only two potential left turn movements
and a left turn lane in place at Madison. Observing as a resident and
cyclists she doesn't see enough bike traffic traversing the full length to
merit the addition of a bike lane. On page 10 there is a map showing
bicycle crashes. It indicates very few occurred on Westmore. Others
crashes related to Westmore seem to be at St. Charles and
Roosevelt, which could be due to traffic on those roads. The plan also
says that Main Street is in the most need of improvements.
Throughout the village often times when people want to build on
property signs are erected about a public hearing. She stated that she
would encourage that the trustee in the area erect signs. None of the
neighbors seem to know about the project. She also said she would
like them contacted to see what their impact would be and let them
know about upcoming meetings.
John Bielrmoa, Westmore Supply
Mr. Bielrmoa stated that his biggest concern was lack of notification.
The first he heard of the project was yesterday. There could be a big
impact trying to condense to one lane. During rush hour it will be brutal
for people trying to turn off of side streets. It seems there is more
chance of problem then there is now.
4.0 Approval of Minutes
There were no minutes to approve.
5.0 Unfinished Business
6.0 New Business
170277 Westmore-Meyers Road Safety Enhancements
Request for committee approval of proposed project
recommendations. (DISTRICT# 5 & 6)
Goldsmith made introductions and explained that this meeting is the
first step in a very long process. There will be a number of
neighborhood meetings and there will certainly be public involvement.
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He went on to give the following presentation.
May of 2014, the Board of Trustees adopted the Complete Streets
policy; a guideline for us to develop and make improvements to make
roadways safer. As staff started using the policy it became clear that it
wasn't the best approach to look at roadways on an individual basis.
We weren't looking at the broader picture for multi-modal
transportation. March of 2015 the Board adopted a master plan for
bicycle and pedestrian improvements. That plan identified a number of
projects to enhance multi-modal projects including the Main Street &
Illinois Prairie path crossing improvements and the bike lane on
Madison Street. We anticipate to do additional designations of
roadways for bike.
The goals for this project were to improve safety, reduce corridor
crashes, find funding mechanisms for projects like this and make a
connection between the Illinois Prairie Path and the Great Western
Trail. The Village retained Christopher B. Burke Engineering to
perform a feasibility study. To be eligible for Federal funding the
termini must be FAUS routes, that is why it would extend from
Roosevelt Rd. to St. Charles Rd. To date, no design work has been
done, we have only investigated the feasability of the project at this
point.
Staff looked at several alternatives and identified three potential
options. The first option is a full improvement from St. Charles Rd. to
Roosevelt Rd. The second is from Madison to St. Charles and the
third option is to do nothing. However, now we are aware of the safety
concerns option 3 is the least preferred. One of the reasons the
project is being considered is because there were 305 crashes
between 2011-2015, 136 of which were between Madison and St.
Charles. Roadway reallocation, based on FHWA data, provides crash
reduction of 19-47%. There are already proven examples, most
notably South Holland and Wilmette. The 30 mph residential speed
limit is appropriate for that roadway. Seventy four percent of the 163
driveways are north of Madison.
We are not making a decision based on availability of grant funding,
but it does play a part. The Village has secured 75% of the proposed
projected cost, about $1.4 million through the Surface Transportation
Program. That amounts to $1.4 million for a project of $2.2 million. If
we do nothing we know that Westmore needs to be resurfaced. It's
starting to show signs of deterioration. If the Village decides that we
don't want to proceed, we can still seek federal grant money for
resurfacing. The proposed project also includes signal improvements,
pedestrian countdown signals, sidewalk improvements throughout the
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corridor and additional enhancements at the trail crossings; not
everything is immediately related to bikes. Approximately $1.5 million
is just for resurfacing, sidewalks & traffic signals.
Benefits of the project include connecting the trails and the Madison
bike lane to create a safer environment for cyclists. The Great
Western Trail crossing will also be addressed for safety concerns
because of its proximity to St. Charles Rd. and paramount to the
project is addressing the vehicle turning movements. There are a lot of
rear-end and turning accidents which correlate to a high rate of speed
and turns to access driveways. This project is anticipated to address
those concerns.
From a staff perspective, looking at the full improvement it showed
that the time through the corridor was expanded to a level we didn't
feel appropriate, however Madison to St. Charles addresses the safety
concerns and accomodates traffic flow with minimal impact. The
preferred improvement would be the Modified (refer to the slideshow).
It restores a residential character to this roadway and addresses three
things; resurfacing from Roosevelt to Madison, resurfacing and
reallocation from Madison to St. Charles and crossing improvements
at Illinois Prairie Path and the Great Western Trail.
Niehaus asked if this addresses the gaps in traffic that Mr. Gault is
concerned about. Goldsmith replied that it does address the gaps.
When backing out of driveways, the proposed project gives you only
one through lane to cross and then you can establish in the turn lane
and wait for an opening in a more safe and efficient manner.
Goldsmith continued, explaining that we want to be cognizant of the
impact on travel through the corridor. The peak range travel time
increased from 4:22 minutes to 5:42 minutes through the corridor.
Alternate 1 shows the largest peak increase was 1 minute. Corso
asked how the study was done. Souden explained that they performed
vehicle counts at all intersections and put the information in a model
based on the State's required modeling system. Then the model
simulates car behavior and movements, considering all of the
geometrics of the intersection, you can then create a scenario for
future traffic. The daily traffic count is about 13,000 vehicles per day.
Glazier asked what time the study was done. Souden replied that the
counts are taken at three different periods; morning rush, mid-day and
evening peak. Typically the State would require only morning and
evening peaks. Bachner asked if counts were taken during the
lunchtime rush. He also pointed out that the morning and evening
counts were done in April, but the lunchtime count was done in June.
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Souden responded that the morning and evening counts are required,
however the Village asked for a lunchtime count as well. Bachner went
on to say that he is concerned because school was out. Bachner
asked if the raw data is available. Goldsmith answered that it is.
Kaforski asked if an actual count was done. Souden answered that
yes, an actual count was done. Kaforski asked if they did time studies
for right turns, as Westmore Supply has a big trucks in and out all day
as well as the Pace bus turning. He asked if all of that was figured in
the study. Souden replied that it was. Bachner added that everyday at
2 p.m. during the school year there is a convoy of school buses,
therefore he thought the study should have been all day, not restricted
to specific times. He also asked how many days the counts were
done. Lew answered that typically it would be done for 48 hours.
Souden agreed, adding that it was done in accordance with state and
federal guidelines. Corso asked if a speed study was done. Sgt. Grage
replied that a study has been done in the past few years. Corso asked
if the speed study was done in different areas throughout the length of
the corridor. Sgt. Grage said that it was done by Maple Street. Corso
asked if staff could do a more current one in different sections. Sgt.
Grage answered yes. Corso commented that we should address if
people are doing the speed limit.
Goldsmith continued. Looking at the impact on traffic, Alternate 1
increases travel time by 1 minute, Alternate 2 increases travel time by
17 seconds, with an average increase in travel time of 11 seconds.
This roadway has seven traffic signals. The level of service is the
amount of delay at each intersection. There is no reduction at 5 of the
7 intersections, however, we did see a reduction in service during
peak evening at Maple and Madison. The increase would be to level
C, which is still within IDOT standards. It's approximately a 10 second
delay in intersection movements. All LOS are acceptable per IDOT.
The goal is to improve safety which can be achieved by doing a road
diet between Madison and St. Charles. We will see a reduction in
rear-end accidents. We know we can utilize federal grants we've
secured and it will complete a priority project in the pedestrian and
bike plan adopted by the Board of Trustees. In early June Public
Works staff met with Police and Fire staff. Both departments were
supportive in concept of the road diet from Madison to St. Charles,
however, going forward they would want to see any impact on their
departments.
The project is included in the 2018 Capital Improvement Program,
however, that does not does not guarantee the project is going
forward, it's a place holder. If the decision is not to move forward staff
will send a letter stating our intention not to move forward with the
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project and would likely submit another application for roadway,
sidewalk & traffic signal improvements. Cation asked if there is a time
limit to use the funding. Goldsmith answered yes, because it's an
IDOT bid letting March 2018 is the target, but it can delayed for two
years before we have to reapply.
Schwarz asked if there is a collision diagram. Souden replied that they
do have the data from the State. Goldsmith interjected that collisions
are not happening at the trail crossings. Schwarz asked if the existing
traffic signal are a coordinated system. Lew replied that they are.
Souden added that the proposed improvements would include
optimizing the time. Schwarz asked if the work would effect snow
removal. Goldsmith responded that it will not impact our operations.
We would still clear edge to edge. Referring to the peak hour of
volume, Schwarz asked what is northbound and when does it occur as
well as what is southbound and when it occurs. Souden answered that
he does not have the exact number, but can get it. Schwarz asked if
staff did cycle counts on Madison before the bike lane was added and
if so what the increase in usage is.Goldsmith answered that there is
no critical analysis, just an eyeball evaluation.
Perkins asked if the intersections at Washington, Maple, St. Charles
and Madison could be signed no right turn on red, so residents only
have to be concerned with traffic on Westmore. She added that she
was trying to picture how you go from 4 lanes on Westmore and cross
Madison into 2 lanes. Envisioning it to be like the Hillside strangler.
Goldsmith replied that would be part of the design effort, where the
transition would occur. Souden clarified that most likely the
northbound right lane would turn into a right turn only. Perkins asked if
the speed limit would be reduced much like it is on Main Street near
Hickory. Goldsmith responded that it would have to go through a
warrant study. It could be considered by the Public Safety &
Transportation committee as it moves forward whether the road diet
goes through or not.
Chairperson Whittington asked if we would eliminate the Great
Western Trail crossing. Lew explained that instead of having a
crossing directly at the trail, we would construct side paths to direct
trail users to St. Charles with some sort of physical obstruction that
requires them to do so. Chairperson Whittington suggested that the
Walk time be lengthened.
Arnold commented that the arrow for the bike lane is going the same
direction as the traffic and asked if there will be any enforcement for
people that ride against the traffic. Sgt. Grage replied that it would
require more education as well as enforcement. The two really need to
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go hand in hand. Arnold asked if it would be possible to set up
construction barricades on Westmore to create the scenario and see
what happens to the traffic flow. Goldsmith answered that we can look
at whether that would be legal and whether the Police Department
would want to see a temporary plan such as that. There may be some
value to it, but there would be some hurdles. Niehaus suggested that
staff could identify the streets in Wilmette and South Holland that have
gone through this so that committee members could visit the sites to
get a feel for it. It wouldn't be quite the same, but it may be worth
worth some time to check out those locations. Souden added that
Plum Grove road in Schaumburg will also be doing this.
Kaforski stated that he thinks the study is overly optimistic and lacks
details specific to Westmore such as the school buses, the trucks and
the proximity of St. Pius. In doing some studying he found that as far
as the 49% reduction in accidents, the FHWA says it's a 6% reduction.
Gainesville FL went back to 4 lanes because of gridlock and San Jose
CA suffered big business losses. He further stated that we need input
from people who live there and utilize it and that he doesn't know that
we're hitting all of the details.
Glazier asked what the the traffic counts are on Main Street at the
same peak hours. Lew replied that Westmore has approximately
13,000 per day compared to 18,000 per day on Main Street.
Bachner asked if there was a comparison to Main Street related to
accidents. Lew answered that Main Street was not considered.
Bachner asked if the information could be extrapolated. He further
commented that biking is recreational and asked if it was ever
considered to move this to Highland. Goldsmith explained that
bicyclists are permitted users of any roadway. When you talk about
Westmore, there are people that commute to work which they wouldn't
necessarily do on Highland because there is not a bus stop. Bachner
replied that he rode with his son and even with the road diet he would
rather ride on Highland. Lew responded that Westmore was chosen
by the consultant that created the master plan.
Dvorak commented that his only concern is that if garbage trucks or
delivery trucks are stopped, all of the cars would go into the turn lane
which may cause a problem. Bachner added that he thinks that a road
diet would force more people onto the residential streets and asked if
that has that been considered.
Corso pointed out that in the 80s Westmore was 2 lanes and went to 4
lanes. He also asked, referring to the Great Western Trail fence and a
comment that it was a dangerous intersection, if that is a fact.
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Goldsmith explained that we've spent a lot of time to address a
problem at Main Street and the Illinois Prairie Path that doesn't exist if
you look at just data. A lot of these are addressing perception.
Mullins asked how far back the northbound transition at Madison
would go and added that if it backs up to Ace Hardware he doesn't
know if he would want to be a business in that mall. Lew replied that
he did not think it would back up to Ace Hardware. Souden added
that although we don't have that detail yet it's something that would
show in the model. He further added that every signalized intersection
does clear the back up in a cycle.
Niehaus commented that he has had the joy of working for the Village
for 4 years and he has worked for three other communities. The way
Lombard is set up is highly unique, in that most community
committees are made up of three board members. In Lombard the
Public Works Committee eight citizens to ensure that the residents are
listened to. There's about 120 curb cuts between Madison and St.
Charles on Westmore. It's not going to be government by referendum,
but these committees become that referendum with their eyes, their
ears and when they make a recommendation to the Board of Trustees
the Board listens closely to the committees. As staff we want to
measure twice and cut once and we would rather be right than fast.
Whether staff and the consultants recommend Alternate 2, we have
thick skin and will not get bent out of shape if you don't agree with the
recommendation. If the recommendation proceeds it will have to go to
the Board and then there will be public meetings and open houses.
Chairperson Whittington added that it is a long process and there is no
rush.
170212 National Citizen Survey
Discussion and review of the National Citizen Survey results.
(DISTRICTS - ALL)
Chairperson Whittington stated that the survey shows that the Village
is doing quite well overall.
7.0 Other Business
8.0 Information Only
9.0 Adjournment
A motion was made by Michael Corso, seconded by Joe Glazier, Jr., that the
meeting be adjourned at 8:20 P.M . The motion passed by an unanimous vote.
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Agenda
Village Hall
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Meeting Agenda
Joint Public Works & Environmental
Concerns and Public Safety &
Transportation Committees
Trustee Bill Ware, Art Kuehl, John Kaforski, Mark Dvorak,
Mike Kuderna, David Arnold, Joe Glazier, Robert Bachner
Trustee Dan Whittington, Jennifer Perkins, Michael Corso, John
Larkin,
John Schwarz, Bob Corbino, Gary Cation, Jerry Schaefer, John
Mullins
Wednesday, July 12, 2017 7:00 PM Lorraine G. Gerhardt Community Room
1.0 Call to Order and Pledge of Allegiance
2.0 Roll Call
3.0 Public Participation
4.0 Approval of Minutes
5.0 Unfinished Business
6.0 New Business
170212 National Citizen Survey
Discussion and review of the National Citizen Survey results.
(DISTRICTS - ALL)
170277 Westmore-Meyers Road Safety Enhancements
Request for committee approval of proposed project recommendations.
(DISTRICT# 5 & 6)
7.0 Other Business
8.0 Information Only
9.0 Adjournment
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