Plan Commission
Regular MeetingLombard, IL · November 18, 2013
Minutes
Village Hall
Village of Lombard 255 East Wilson Ave.
Lombard, IL 60148
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Minutes
Plan Commission
Donald F. Ryan, Chairperson
Commissioners: Ronald Olbrysh, Martin Burke,
Ruth Sweetser, Andrea Cooper, Stephen Flint and
John Mrofcza
Staff Liaison: William Heniff
Monday, November 18, 2013 7:30 PM Village Hall - Board Room
Call to Order
Chairperson Ryan called the meeting to order at 7:30 p.m.
Pledge of Allegiance
Chairperson Ryan led the Pledge of Allegiance.
Chairperson Ryan asked for a moment of silence for the individuals
who lost their lives and to those who had damage to their property in
downstate Illinois due to the tornados yesterday.
Roll Call of Members
Present 5 - Donald F. Ryan, Ronald Olbrysh, Martin Burke, Ruth Sweetser, and
Stephen Flint
Absent 2 - Andrea Cooper, and John Mrofcza
Also present: Jennifer Ganser, Assistant Director of Community
Development; and Matt Panfil, Sr. Planner.
Chairperson Ryan called the order of the agenda.
Public Hearings
There were no public hearings.
Business Meeting
The business meeting convened at 7:32 p.m.
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Approval of Minutes
On a motion by Commissioner Flint and seconded by Commissioner
Olbrysh the minutes of the October 21, 2013 meeting were approved
by a 4-0 vote.
Public Participation
There was no public participation.
DuPage County Hearings
There were no DuPage County hearings.
Chairperson's Report
The Chairperson deferred to the Director of Community Development.
Planner's Report
Ms. Ganser, Assistant Director of Community Development presented
the Planner’s Report. She addressed the Plan Commission date for
January 2014. Due to an upcoming holiday, Staff is proposing the
Plan Commission reschedule the January 20, 2014 meeting to
Monday, January 27, 2014.
Chairperson Ryan asked the Commissioners about the date change.
The Commissioners agreed to change the date to Monday, January
27, 2014.
Second, Ms. Ganser said the Comprehensive Plan Update will be
brought back to the Plan Commission by Staff in 2014 for further
review.
Unfinished Business
There was no unfinished business.
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New Business
There was no new business.
Subdivision Reports
There were no subdivision reports.
Site Plan Approvals
There were no site plan approvals.
Workshops
Attention Getting Devices
Ms. Ganser, Assistant Director of Community Development,
introduced the workshop regarding Attention Getting Devices. She
said this item was discussed as a workshop at the October 21, 2013
Plan Commission meeting, and that this is a continuation of the
previous workshop. The following items were agreed upon at the last
meeting: location of feather signs, regulations on what the sign is
made of, and if feather signs should be attached to a permanent
structure.
Staff researched the questions brought up at the last Plan
Commission meeting. Ms. Ganser referred to the two specification
sheets of banners to give an idea of how tall, how wide, and the
different shapes.
Staff proposes allowing one “feather sign” per business for one
fourteen day period per calendar year. Though the proposed time of
the “feather signs” is being reduced, a business still has other options
for temporary signs such as inflatable signs, pennants, and banners.
Ms. Ganser asked if there were any additional questions from the Plan
Commission.
Commissioner Burke asked what the size restriction is. Ms. Ganser
replied the current size restriction is 36 square feet. She referenced
the attached specification sheets from sign companies that the signs
could be up to 20 feet tall.
Commissioner Olbrysh asked about the size of the Halloween feather
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signs. Matt Panfil, Sr. Planner, responded the signs were
approximately 10 to 12 feet by 3 feet wide, about 36 square feet.
Commissioner Olbrysh asked if this size would fall into the medium
example in the handout. Ms. Ganser replied this would fall into the
medium example. Commissioner Olbrysh didn’t think the signs should
be any bigger.
Commissioner Burke asked if in the example the large size is bigger
than 36 square feet. Ms. Ganser replied the large would be bigger
than 36 square feet which is what the current code allows.
Chairperson Ryan said Staff should leave the code at 36 feet so it
should fall into the medium category.
Commissioner Sweetser said the maximum square footage would
relate back to the maximum height, otherwise the sign would be too
skinny and could fall. The maximum height goes with the 36 square
feet requirement.
Ms. Ganser asked the Plan Commission how many signs should be
allowed per lot. Staff is proposing one sign per business for fourteen
days. Staff did research and contacted other municipalities to verify
the different rules allowing one sign per business and per zoning lot.
Ms. Ganser asked if the Plan Commission is in concurrence with Staff
or if the Commission had any questions.
Commissioner Sweetser asked if the limit of signs is one per business
regardless of the size of the lot or how many businesses are on the
lot. She also asked if the business is part of a strip center if there can
only be one sign at a time. Ms. Ganser replied it would be one sign
per business and if the business was in a strip center there could be
more than one sign at a time. Commissioner Sweetser asked if the
fourteen days need to be taken consecutively or can the days be
broken up. Ms. Ganser said the way Staff has it written the days are
consecutive. Chairperson Ryan said it should be written as
consecutive days.
Commissioner Olbrysh referred to the last workshop where it was
discussed if there are 15 businesses in a strip center theoretically 15
signs could be up at the same time. The landlord could control the
number of signs up at a time. Chairperson Ryan said if the business
knows they are going to get the sign one time a year for fourteen days
and it is in a strip mall, they could be better off to take the time
individually, one at a time.
Commissioner Sweetser asked if the businesses would decide
amongst each other or will there be a directive or guidance from Staff.
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Chairperson Ryan agreed and asked Ms. Ganser if staff understood
about providing some guidelines. Ms. Ganser said they understood.
Ms. Ganser asked the Plan Commission if the duration should be
changed. She said Staff is proposing allowing one “feather sign” per
business for one fourteen day period. Ms. Ganser asked the Plan
Commission if they agreed with the duration. The Commissioners
agreed with the duration.
Commissioner Burke asked what zoning districts the signs are
allowed. Ms. Ganser replied they would be allowed in Business
Districts 1-5 and in the Industrial District.
Chairperson Ryan asked if there were any further comments or
questions, and, hearing none, he said we would move onto the
second workshop.
Industrial District Changes
Mr. Panfil, Senior Planner, introduced the Permitted & Conditional
Uses within the “I” Limited Industrial District Workshop. The origins of
this workshop are based on the many calls and applications received
for Certificates of Occupancy and by businesses and their uses within
the Industrial District. Many times the uses don’t clearly fall into one of
the listed categories. Staff generally needs to obtain more information
and often the business has to go through the conditional use process.
Staff reviewed and compared the various approaches to industrial
land use regulation among other municipalities especially with
substantially sized industrial zoning districts. As a result, staff
developed three changes to be brought forth for further discussion by
the Plan Commission.
The first item is to reduce the long, but not exhaustive, list of specific
permitted uses to traditional industrial, but broad, terms such as
assembly, fabricating, manufacturing, processing, and warehousing.
Any use that is not specifically listed as a conditional use may be
permitted at the discretion of the Director; provided sufficient
information is submitted in order to determine compliance with the
performance standards and all other Village Code. As the Zoning
Ordinance already allows for the Director’s discretion in the
identification of conditional uses, staff finds it logical to provide for
such discretion in the identification of permitted uses.
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The approach is to clean up some of the language and permit
traditional industrial activities such as manufacturing, but also allow
flexibility that recognizes that whether a business is manufacturing
rope, cord, or twine has essentially the same land use impact as a
business manufacturing carbon fiber.
The second item is to consolidate many of the similar permitted uses
(i.e. “laundries” and “dry cleaning plants”) to more inclusive terms.
Finally, the third item is to add a clause regarding repair, rental, or
servicing of any items permitted to be sold or manufactured within the
I Limited Industrial Zoning District. This is similar to text within several
of the “B” zoning districts. The thought is if you are allowed to
manufacture or sell it you should be able to repair it as well.
Commissioner Sweetser asked that as additive manufacturing and 3D
printing is becoming ubiquitous in so many venues, if there is any
thought of where this item would be classified in terms of the
definitions. Mr. Panfil explained they are trying to catch everything
under manufacturing, and with the information provided, see if the
business would violate our standards of operation. Chairperson Ryan
said that since we are allowing the discretion of the Director we don’t
have to list it under each category. Commissioner Sweetser agreed
and thought the discretion could be applied for technologies that don’t
have to be limited to the I District. Mr. Panfil added we can look at the
language but said this opens it up to a broader terminology. Since
there is a limited amount of industrial zoning, we need to maintain a
balance so that there are buildings available for businesses with
traditional uses.
Commissioner Burke questioned the servicing and renting of items
manufactured in the I District. He asked if this is creating a retail
function in industrial zoning. Mr. Panfil replied it is a valid concern and
asked the Plan Commission about the wording. Chairperson Ryan
asked Commissioner Burke if rental is necessary in the industrial
district. Commissioner Burke questioned if this is broad enough and if
there are visitors servicing and repairing, are we are exceeding the
parking requirements. Mr. Panfil said the parking requirements would
still need to be maintained or they can request a variance.
Commissioner Burke wasn’t sure about the equipment rental in every
industrial district.
Chairperson Ryan summarized that the Plan Commission liked what
Staff is proposing; it cleans up the zoning ordinance, and gives more
discretion to the Director. The repair, rental and servicing feature
needs to be examined before the wording is finalized and it can be
voted on.
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Adjournment
The meeting adjourned at 8:55 p.m.
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Donald F. Ryan, Chairperson
Lombard Plan Commission
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William J. Heniff, Secretary
Lombard Plan Commission
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Agenda
Village of Lombard
Village Hall
255 East Wilson Ave.
Lombard, IL 60148
villageoflombard.org
Meeting Agenda
Monday, November 18, 2013
7:30 PM
Village Hall - Board Room
Plan Commission
Donald F. Ryan, Chairperson
Commissioners: Ronald Olbrysh, Martin Burke,
Ruth Sweetser, Andrea Cooper, Stephen Flint and
John Mrofcza
Staff Liaison: William Heniff
Plan Commission Meeting Agenda November 18, 2013
Call to Order
Pledge of Allegiance
Roll Call of Members
Public Hearings
Business Meeting
Approval of Minutes
Public Participation
DuPage County Hearings
Chairperson's Report
Planner's Report
Unfinished Business
New Business
Subdivision Reports
Site Plan Approvals
Workshops
Adjournment
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