Plan Commission
Regular MeetingLombard, IL · July 20, 2020
Minutes
Village of Lombard
Village Hall
255 East Wilson Ave.
Lombard, IL 60148
villageoflombard.org
Minutes
Monday, July 20, 2020
7:00 PM
Village Hall - Board Room
Plan Commission
Commissioners:
Martin Burke, Ruth Sweetser,
Stephen Flint, John Mrofcza,
Leigh Giuliano and Bill Johnston
Staff Liaison: Jennifer Ganser
Plan Commission Minutes July 20, 2020
NOTICE OF MEETING MODIFICATION DUE TO COVID-19
In light of the Disaster Declaration issued by the Governor of the State of Illinois
relative to the COVID-19 pandemic, and pursuant to Public Act 101-0640, the
Chairperson of the Plan Commission has determined that an in-person meeting
of the Plan Commission, or a meeting conducted under the Open Meetings Act
requirements, relative to a quorum of the members of the Plan Commission
being physically present at a meeting when some members of the Plan
Commission are participating remotely, is not practical or prudent because of
the disaster.
Pursuant to Governor Pritzker’s Executive Order 2020-07, as extended by
Executive Orders 2020-18, 2020-33 and 2020-39, and pursuant to Public Act
101-040, Plan Commission members may attend and participate in the public
hearing remotely, and physical attendance at this public hearing will be
restricted solely to specified Village officials, staff and consultants. Residents
may view the meeting live on television, at Comcast Channel 6 or AT&T Channel
99, or on online at www.villageoflombard.org/220/view-meetings-live.
All interested persons will be given the opportunity to participate in the public
hearing via telephone or submission of public comments or evidence in advance
of the meeting
• email to communitydevelopment@villageoflombard.org
• calling and leaving a voicemail at 630-620-5760
• letter mail to:
Community Development Department
Attn: Plan Commission
Village of Lombard
255 E. Wilson Avenue
Lombard IL 60148
Persons interested in participating in the hearing via telephone shall contact the
Village in advance by any of the above methods to obtain information necessary
for telephonic participation in the hearing. The Village requests that comments
be submitted to the Village by 4:00 p.m. on Monday, July 20, 2020.
Notwithstanding this request, all comments received before the public comment
portion of the public hearing will be read into the public meeting record. The
physical attendance restrictions in place for this meeting have been adopted to
comply with Governor Pritzker’s Executive Orders regarding social distancing
and the need to maximize residential self-isolation to slow the spread of
COVID-19 to the greatest extent possible.
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Call to Order
Vice Chairperson Flint called the meeting to order at 7:00 p.m
Pledge of Allegiance
Vice Chairperson Flint led the Pledge of Allegiance
Roll Call of Members
Present 6 - Martin Burke, Ruth Sweetser, John Mrofcza, Stephen Flint, Leigh Giuliano,
and Bill Johnston
Also present: William Heniff, AIPC, Director of Community
Development, Jennifer Ganser, AICP, Assistant Director of Community
Development, Jason Guisinger, legal counsel to the Plan Commission.
Commissioners: Martin Burke, Ruth Sweetser, John Mrofcza, Leigh
Giuliano and Bill Johnston attended remotely.
Vice Chairperson Flint called the order of the agenda.
Ms. Ganser read the Rules of Procedures as written in the Plan
Commission
Public Hearings
200207 PC 20-18: 783 E. Butterfield Rd, Zen Leaf Cannabis
The petitioner requests a zoning conditional use pursuant to Section
155.415(C)(31) of the Lombard Village Code to allow for a “Cannabis
dispensing facility operated in strict compliance with State law applicable
thereto” on the subject property located within the B3 Community
Shopping District. (DISTRICT #3)
Sworn in to present the petition were, Adam Rak and Anthony Marsico
the petitioners, and Jennifer Ganser, Assistant Director.
Pursuant to Governor Pritzker’s Executive Order 2020-07, as extended
by Executive Orders 2020-18, 2020-33 and 2020-39, and pursuant to
Public Act 101-040, some Plan Commission members participated in
the public hearing remotely.
Mr. Rak showed a presentation. He said he is presenting on behalf of
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the petitioner and that he is an urban planner at WBK Engineering. He
said the location is zoned B3 and they are applying for a conditional
use permit. He said Zen Leaf will comply with all State and Municipal
regulations. He said this is a high-end luxury experience with customer
service. Zen Leaf will help customers find the correct product for their
needs. They are a good community steward. Mr. Rak went thru the
seven (7) standards for a conditional use and explained for Zen Leaf
meets and exceeds each standard. He said the State of Illinois has
some of the most stringent regulations on the cannabis industry.
He referenced the letter of objection from the neighboring property
owner and stated that they are to the west of the drive-thru, which may
be causing some of the issues. He said there is plenty of parking in the
back. A traffic engineer reviewed the site and said for a dispensary of
3,150 square feet to expect approximately 796 total daily trips,
however, a restaurant comparable to the one that left could generate
approximately 993 total daily trips. He said that is a 20% decrease in
traffic. They believe the dispensary will alleviate some of the parking
concerns rather than another restaurant. He said restaurants require
more parking per Code.
Mr. Marsico said he is the VP of Sales. He went thru the proposed floor
plan and said all who enter must be 21 and have an ID. He discussed
the customer experience and the customer flow. The point of sale is
simply transactional and no cannabis products are on the floor. He
said this will create jobs and tax revenue. He said their existing
dispensaries have a good relationship with Police and Fire. He
discussed their third-party security firm and compliance.
Vice Chairperson Flint asked for public comment. There was none.
Vice Chairperson Flint asked for the staff report.
Ms. Ganser presented the staff report, which was submitted to the public
record in its entirety. She noted that tonight’s public hearing is for a
conditional use at 783 E. Butterfield Road. The discussion is not if
cannabis should be sold in Lombard. That was discussed in 2019 thru
a Village Board workshop, a Plan Commission public hearing, and
additional Village Board meetings where the Village Board ultimately
voted to opt-in and established zoning regulations. This address is
zoned B3. In the B3 district dispensaries are a conditional use, which is
why this public hearing is required.
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The petitioner, Verano Holdings/Zen Leaf, proposes a cannabis
dispensary at a retail space at 783 E. Butterfield Road. The subject
property is vacant retail space and was formerly Anthony’s Coal Fired
Pizza restaurant. Per a 2019 text amendment, cannabis dispensaries
are a conditional use in the B3 Zoning District. Cannabis would be
sold at the location, in compliance with Illinois law. Cannabis would not
be grown on the premises. The cannabis industry is regulated by the
State of Illinois Department of Financial and Professional Regulation
and the Illinois State Police. The site is surrounded by other
commercial land uses. There is no residential in the immediate area.
The building went to the Plan Commission in 2015 (PC 15-26). The
site met parking as it uses parking in the rear owned by Nicor and has
used this parking since 1982 pursuant to a lease agreement that runs
through June 2024. Afterwards there are ten extension options of five
years each. The site takes access from Butterfield Road, which is a
major arterial roadway.
Staff received five (5) emails on the petition that were included in the
staff report and are part of the public record. They are in support of or
have no opinion on the petition.
Staff also received one (1) letter after the staff report was sent out. The
Plan Commissioners received the letter via email and it is also part of
the public record. The letter is from the adjacent property owner at 801
E. Butterfield Road. He is not in support of the petition. Ms. Ganser
read the letter. Staff notes that the objections are not pertaining to the
use of a cannabis dispensary, but rather potential adverse impacts that
could be made for various commercial entities.
Staff received one (1) voicemail after the staff report was sent out. The
Plan Commissioners received the voicemail via email and it is also
part of the public record. The voicemail caller did not identify himself
and expressed general concerns and objections about cannabis sales
and use. The call did not directly speak to matters about this specific
petition. The text of the voicemail is as follows:
“Hello, I am calling about the recreational marijuana dispensary that
you want to allow in Lombard. That is one of the biggest mistakes you
can do. I have had an experience with that and I have had a family
member, actually it was an in-law, who destroyed his life with pot. And I
can tell you right now that I don’t care if the Governor made it legal or
not, it is still illegal at the federal level. You apparently don’t realize that
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these dispensaries attract the wrong kind of people and I don’t care if
the Governor made it legal, it is still an illegal drug because it is illegal
at the federal level. And Trustee Militello is in the cannabis business
which people are not too thrilled about that. An elected official that
makes money off of an illegal drug. And don’t tell me this stuff about
how safe marijuana is, I can tell you right now that from 2006-2016
there where over 100,000 accidents out on the highway due to alcohol.
Now my question to you is, alcohol is half of the potential of marijuana
such as accidents, violence, criminality, social degradation, do we
really need pot? No, we don’t. You wanna go ahead and have it, fine.
But you’re going to have a lot of robberies at dispensaries cause they
don’t take credit cards, they just take cash. And when you have
something like that you will have a lot of robberies. Look what
happened in Chicago when they made it legal. It’s obvious that you
don’t know the dangers of marijuana and alcohol. All you can talk
about is bringing in the revenue. What about the drawbacks of
marijuana? I don’t care if it’s safe, it’s not. It isn’t safe at all. One drug
leads to another. One in five will be hooked on pot. Any trustee or
commissioner that goes in favor of this dispensary ought to be
removed from office.”
The caller noted traffic accidents and robberies. These are more
general in nature and do not relate to this specific conditional use at
this specific address. Items such as traffic were discussed in 2019
when the Board voted to opt-in. These matters were discussed by the
Police Chief as they would be under the Police Department’s purview.
Staff received one (1) email after the packets went out. The Plan
Commissioners received the email and it is also part of the public
record. The text of the email is as follows:
“Hi, my name is Jodie Carlson and I am a resident of Lombard. I
understand that approval for a cannabis dispensary is on the agenda
tonight and wanted to let you know that I am very much in favor of this
business. Please let me know if you need any more info. Thanks and
have a great meeting!”
In conclusion, staff supports the conditional use for a cannabis
dispensary at 783 E. Butterfield Road.
Vice Chairperson Flint asked if the petitioner would like to respond to
the letter or voicemail. Mr. Marsico said they prepared a written
response that was distributed to the Plan Commission. He said their
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use is less intense than the previous sit-down restaurant. They are also
further away from the drive thru and driveway, which may help. He said
their customers are usually in and out in five minutes, however,
restaurant customers stay much longer. He doesn’t believe parking will
be an issue.
Vice Chairperson Flint asked if there were questions on the staff report.
Vice Chairperson Flint opened the meeting for comments among the
Commissioners and asked each Commissioner if they had questions
or comments.
Commissioner Burke said he had no comments or questions and
would recommend approval.
Commissioner Sweetser said she had no comments or questions.
Commissioner Mrofcza said he had no comments or questions.
Commissioner Giuliano asked if another dispensary could open in the
B3 zoning district and Ms. Ganser said yes. There is no limit on the
number of dispensaries in the Village. She asked the petitioner who
scans the ID’s. Mr. Marsico said their staff will after receiving training.
They use Veriscan and can lean on security if needed. Commissioner
Giuliano asked how they prohibit public consumption and Mr. Marsico
said they will have two security guards who will focus on the inside and
outside. They have a no loitering policy. Commissioner Giuliano
asked if customers can sample product and Mr. Marsico said there is
no consumption of products with THC. They may have non-infused
edibles called blanks that can be tasted. Commissioner Giuliano
asked if they donate money to any drug rehab or prevention
organizations. Mr. Marsico said he was not sure. He said they would
like to join the Chamber and they do partner with an agency that helps
with job placement for those affected by drugs. That agency works on
criminal justice reform. Their focus is towards social equity.
Commissioner Giuliano said she likes the location, likes that it is away
from residential and should add to the economic diversity in the area.
Commissioner Johnston said this is a prime location and will draw from
a large area. He asked how they will handle large crowds and parking?
Mr. Marsico said for something like a grand opening they may need
traffic control, but their goal is to have a minimal impact to traffic and
parking.
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On a motion by Commissioner Burke, and a second by Commissioner Giuliano,
the Plan Commission voted 6-0 to recommend that the Village Board approve
the petition associated with PC 20-18, subject to the following six (6) conditions:
1. The petitioner shall develop the site in accordance with the plans submitted
as part of this request and as modified by the conditions of approval set forth
herein.
2. The petitioner shall satisfactorily address all other development comments
identified within the Inter-Department Review Report as part of any future
permits as part of the project.
3. The petitioner shall be required to apply for and receive building permits for
any activity and/or improvements to the subject property.
4. Pursuant to the Zoning Ordinance, project construction shall commence
within one (1) year from the date of approval of the ordinance, unless a time
extension is granted by the Village Board.
5. If, for any reason, the Nicor parcel becomes unavailable for off-site parking
an amendment to the conditional use and/or any necessary variations must be
obtained in order to continue the use.
6. Operation of the cannabis dispensary is subject to securing and maintaining
all requisite approvals as set forth by the State of Illinois relative to the
cannabis dispensary land use.
Aye: 6- Martin Burke, Ruth Sweetser, John Mrofcza, Stephen Flint, Leigh Giuliano,
and Bill Johnston
Business Meeting
Approval of Minutes
A motion was made by Commissioner Mrofcza, seconded by Commissioner
Sweetser, the minutes of the June 15, 2020 be approved. The motion carried by
the following vote:
Aye: 6- Martin Burke, Ruth Sweetser, John Mrofcza, Stephen Flint, Leigh Giuliano,
and Bill Johnston
Public Participation
There was no Public Hearings
DuPage County Hearings
There was no DuPage County hearings
Chairperson's Report
The Chairperson deferred to the Director of Community Development
Planner's Report
There was no Planners report
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Unfinished Business
There was no unfinished business
New Business
There was no new business
Subdivision Reports
There was no subdivision reports
Site Plan Approvals
190318 SPA 19-01: Weber Grill outdoor dining area canopy/encloser
(2331 Fountain Square Drive) - Time Extension Request
The petitioner, Weber Grill Restaurant Lombard, is requesting site plan
approval time extension request in order to install a new canopy over the
existing outdoor dining area on the southwest side of the building. No
expansion to the outdoor dining area is proposed. (DISTRICT #3)
Ms. Ganser entered the memo into the public record. This project was
approved by the Plan Commission in 2019, however, Covid delayed
the construction of the project. As the project is not yet complete the
petitioner is requesting a time extension and staff supports the request.
A motion was made by John Mrofcza, seconded by Bill Johnston, that the time
extension for SPA 19-01 be approved. The motion carried by the following
vote:
Aye: 6 - Martin Burke, Ruth Sweetser, John Mrofcza, Stephen Flint, Leigh
Giuliano, and Bill Johnston
Workshops
Mr. Heniff reviewed a powerpoint and discussed amending the Zoning
Ordinance on maximum lot coverage for properties with combined
sewers in the R1 and R2 zoning districts. He mentioned we have many
large rain events and the existing infrastructure can’t always
accommodate it. He discussed flooding on private property. Lombard
has storm sewers in the public right of way, usually the street. New
development needs to follow many updated and new Codes, but this
does not fully address the existing development and infrastructure. He
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said Lombard still has areas of town with combined sewers, though
much of Lombard has separated sewer systems. Combined sewers
can have overflow which can back up into basements or the ground.
He showed a map of the combined sewer area which is mostly the east
central portion of the Village. Areas with combined sewers account for
approximately 17.9% of Lombard, but were over 50% of the drainage
calls for the May 2020 storm event. Separating all the Village sewers
would be over $100,000,000. He discussed the 50% lot coverage
regulation and what other communities do. He said a proposed
regulations could be to decrease the lot coverage to 40% in areas of a
combined sewer. He discussed allowing the improvements like a patio,
but allowing it with a pervious surface. This could also help with
stormwater management.
Commissioner Burke said this was informative. He would like to see
more engineering work done to back up the numbers on the combined
sewer areas. He said this could be expanded to other residential
zoning districts that have a higher density and more coverage. Mr.
Heniff noted that sometimes new developments in high density areas
use vault detention and may manage stormwater better than
single-family areas.
Commissioner Sweetser said this is a good topic to review. She noted
a trend for smaller houses and wondered if that would continue post
Covid.
Commissioner Mrofcza asked if the greatest concern in Lombard was
the area with combined sewer. He asked Mr. Heniff for more detail on
the map. Mr. Heniff said the brown area is the combined sewer and the
yellow area are sewers that are separate, but lead to a combined area.
The areas are white have separated sewers. He said the area of the
most concern is the combined sewer area and noted that if those areas
became separate the lot coverage could be increased.
Commissioner Giuliano said she had no comments.
Commissioner Johnston said water is a major topic and this could help
future development.
Commissioner Flint said as an architect he knows sometimes it had to
stay under the 50%, usually when there is a detached garage and
driveway. He said it would be nice to see an opportunity for people to
use pervious surfaces instead. Mr. Heniff said we could look at a
hybrid model for the combined are to get credit to go up to 50%.
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Commissioner Burke suggested a graduated percentage based on lot
size.
Commissioner Mrofcza asked if this would create a long term
improvement and Mr. Heniff said it wouldn’t make the situation worse.
Zoning is forward thinking and this could help with future development
Adjournment
A motion was made by Commissioner Mrofcza, seconded by Commissioner
Johnston, to adjourn the meeting at 9:01 p.m. The motion passed by an
unanimous vote.
_______________________
Stephen Flint, Vice Chairperson
Lombard Plan Commission
__________________________
Jennifer Ganser, Secretary
Lombard Plan Commission
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Agenda
Village of Lombard
Village Hall
255 East Wilson Ave.
Lombard, IL 60148
villageoflombard.org
Meeting Agenda
Monday, July 20, 2020
7:00 PM
Village Hall - Board Room
Plan Commission
Commissioners:
Martin Burke, Ruth Sweetser,
Stephen Flint, John Mrofcza,
Leigh Giuliano and Bill Johnston
Staff Liaison: Jennifer Ganser
Plan Commission Meeting Agenda July 20, 2020
NOTICE OF MEETING MODIFICATION DUE TO COVID-19
In light of the Disaster Declaration issued by the Governor of the State of Illinois
relative to the COVID-19 pandemic, and pursuant to Public Act 101-0640, the
Chairperson of the Plan Commission has determined that an in-person meeting of
the Plan Commission, or a meeting conducted under the Open Meetings Act
requirements, relative to a quorum of the members of the Plan Commission being
physically present at a meeting when some members of the Plan Commission are
participating remotely, is not practical or prudent because of the disaster.
Pursuant to Governor Pritzker’s Executive Order 2020-07, as extended by
Executive Orders 2020-18, 2020-33 and 2020-39, and pursuant to Public Act 101-040,
Plan Commission members may attend and participate in the public hearing
remotely, and physical attendance at this public hearing will be restricted solely to
specified Village officials, staff and consultants. Residents may view the meeting live
on television, at Comcast Channel 6 or AT&T Channel 99, or on online at
www.villageoflombard.org/220/view-meetings-live.
All interested persons will be given the opportunity to participate in the public
hearing via telephone or submission of public comments or evidence in advance of
the meeting
• email to communitydevelopment@villageoflombard.org
• calling and leaving a voicemail at 630-620-5760
• letter mail to:
Community Development Department
Attn: Plan Commission
Village of Lombard
255 E. Wilson Avenue
Lombard IL 60148
Persons interested in participating in the hearing via telephone shall contact the
Village in advance by any of the above methods to obtain information necessary for
telephonic participation in the hearing. The Village requests that comments be
submitted to the Village by 4:00 p.m. on Monday, July 20, 2020. Notwithstanding this
request, all comments received before the public comment portion of the public
hearing will be read into the public meeting record. The physical attendance
restrictions in place for this meeting have been adopted to comply with Governor
Pritzker’s Executive Orders regarding social distancing and the need to maximize
residential self-isolation to slow the spread of COVID-19 to the greatest extent
possible.
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Call to Order
Pledge of Allegiance
Roll Call of Members
Public Hearings
200207 PC 20-18: 783 E. Butterfield Rd, Zen Leaf Cannabis
The petitioner requests a zoning conditional use pursuant to Section
155.415(C)(31) of the Lombard Village Code to allow for a “Cannabis
dispensing facility operated in strict compliance with State law applicable
thereto” on the subject property located within the B3 Community Shopping
District. (DISTRICT #3)
Business Meeting
Approval of Minutes
Request to approve the June 15, 2020 minutes
Public Participation
A 15-minute period is allowed for public comments on any issue related to the Plan
Commission.
DuPage County Hearings
There are no DuPage County hearings.
Chairperson's Report
As presented by the Plan Commission Chairperson.
Planner's Report
As presented by the Director of Community Development.
Unfinished Business
There is no unfinished business.
New Business
There is no new business.
Subdivision Reports
There are no subdivision reports.
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Site Plan Approvals
190318 SPA 19-01: Weber Grill outdoor dining area canopy/encloser
(2331 Fountain Square Drive) - Time Extension Request
The petitioner, Weber Grill Restaurant Lombard, is requesting site plan
approval time extension request in order to install a new canopy over the
existing outdoor dining area on the southwest side of the building. No
expansion to the outdoor dining area is proposed. (DISTRICT #3)
Workshops
1. Residential Lot Area Coverage Regulations.
Adjournment
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