Public Safety & Transportation Committee
Regular MeetingLombard, IL · November 14, 2016
Minutes
Village of Lombard
Village Hall
255 East Wilson Ave.
Lombard, IL 60148
villageoflombard.org
Minutes
Monday, November 14, 2016
7:00 PM
Lorraine G. Gerhardt Community Room
Public Safety & Transportation Committee
Trustee Dan Whittington, Chairperson
Trustee Mike Fugiel, Alternate Chairperson
Jennifer Perkins, Michael Corso, John Larkin,
John Schwarz, Robert Corbino, Gary Cation,
Jerry Schaefer and John Mullins
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1.0 Call to Order and Pledge of Allegiance
The meeting was called to order by Chairperson Whittington at 7:00 PM.
2.0 Roll Call
Present 10 - Dan Whittington, Mike Fugiel, Jennifer Perkins, Michael Corso, John Larkin
Jr., John Schwarz, Bob Corbino, Gary Cation, Jerry Shaefer, and John
Mullins
3.0 Public Participation
Scott Gronwola, 740 S. Charlotte St.
Mr. Gronwola stated that he was speaking in favor of the parking plan
and that he appreciated the committee working on this matter. He went
on to say that looking at the map of the current restrictions around
Glenbard East, it becomes obvious why they are parking on the 700
block of S. Charlotte. It is the closest available parking to the high school.
He explained that he had a conversation with Bill Ware who expressed
concern and wanted more than just a band aid. He believes this plan
does that as the 25-30 vehicles would be more evenly dispersed. He
appreciates that this plan looks at the big picture.
William Harris 1037 S Main Dr.
Mr. Harris explained that he lives across from Glenbard East. He said
that some years ago he was informed by a community service officer that
they would not issue a ticket if the car was registered to the house it was
parked in front of, so he hasn't had a problem with that. However, when
there are evening events at the school, both sides of the street become
lined with vehicles. (Mr. Harris showed the committe pictures) There was
12' between cars all the way down the street. There are two disabled
elderly ladies that live on the street and he said he wonders whether
emergency vehicles can get down the street and operate when both
sides are lined. Mr. Harris said that he went to the Fire Department
today. He stated that he got a warm reception and the person he spoke
with listened to the problem and looked at the pictures. (He showed the
committee a picture of a truck parked within 5' of a fire hydrant) He went
on to say that the Public Works Director liked the idea that the west side
(the fire hydrant side) of Main Drive remain no parking entirely. Although
he has not had a problem with kids parking there, and he understands
when parents park for 10-15 minutes waiting to pick a kid up, he does
not wish to be calling 911 to tell them there's somebody parking there for
more than 2 hours. He doesn't want to take away resources for such a
silly problem. He added that he thinks opening it up to 2 hour parking
may cause a problem when kids coming in to take exams will park there.
He concluded with saying that he thinks 2 hour parking needs to be
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rethought and would ask that the hydrant side be no parking anytime.
Shahe Bagdasarian, Principal, Glenbard East High School
Mr. Bagdasarian said that he was here to hear the concerns and to help
brainstorm a solution to the parking issue.
Kristine Kolton, 217 W. Graham Ave.
Ms. Kolton explained that she lived there when the original parking
restrictions were implemented. She added that the residents have lived
through not being able to park, but most like it. Ms. Kolton also
expressed concerns about enforcement and said that she talked to a
police lieutenant and he suggested that maybe a lanyard could be issued
to residents to allow them to park. She added that although she
sympathizes with the kids, she felt that with 2 hour parking they will start
parking all over.
Fred Walker, 811 S. Charlotte St.
Mr. Walker commented that when he goes north on Charlotte there does
seem to be a public safety issue. If a child were to run out between the
parked cars there could be a situation.
Bob Biddle, 821 S. Charlotte St.
Mr. Biddle stated that with all the kids walking down the street there is
garbage all over. He further stated that the issue comes down to the 700
block [of S. Charlotte] is a mess. It seems that common sense is to make
at least one side no parking. At Sunset Knoll the 70 some odd spots are
not used. The solution is in front of us, if the lot has the spots it needs to
be utilized instead your pushing the kids into the neighborhoods. Come
up with a solution that fixes it longterm and get the kids off of the streets.
Tami Urish, 216 W. Maple St.
Ms. Urish stated that she was here to speak on behalf of the kids. Her
daughter parked on Wilson last year. In order to do that she had to get up
at 5:30 AM to get there before 6 AM. There is not enough parking and it
needs to be addressed.
4.0 Approval of Minutes
A motion was made by John Larkin, Jr., seconded by Jerry Schaefer, that the
minutes of the October 3, 2016 meeting be approved. The motion carried
unanimously.
5.0 Unfinished Business
6.0 New Business
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160464 Amendment to Parking Restrictions
A staff recommendation to establish a 2-hour parking restriction between
the hours of 9 AM and 3 PM on school days in an area within a 1/3 mile
radius of the property lines for Glenbard East High School. (DISTRICT#
2 & 6)
Schaefer asked Badasarian what established the 1.5 mile radius for
school bus pick up. Badasarian answered that it is set by the School
Board. Although the school is not required to provide transportation,
students living over 1.5 miles would need transportation. Schaefer asked
if it was possible to reduce the circumference to encourage more kids to
take the bus. Badasarian replied that that has not been discussed. It
would effect not just Glenbard East, but all of the Glenbard schools. The
full impact would have to be determined. Schaefer asked if there had
been any dialogue with school officials about this situation. He added
that the committee has struggled with it for years and would encourage
dialogue at the district level to talk with the Village to try to come up with a
solution. Badasarian answered that they are aware that parking has been
an issue for years. One of the things the school has done is to open up
Sunset Knoll parking lot. The school has dropped the permit price quite a
bit. Student parking on campus is done by lottery and the cost is
$100/semester. There have been discussions internally about changing
the criteria, maybe kids in athletics or that are carpooling. That's
something that the school can do on our end to try to address parking. He
went on to say that he thinks if the restrictions go into place, more kids
will use Sunset Knoll. There are plenty of spots in that lot. He went on to
say that the school also reached out to the owners of Enchanted Castle
to try to work out some deal that students could park there, unfortunately,
they're not really willing right now to sublet those spots. Schaefer asked if
the school property is landlocked. Badasarian replied that it is, except for
a lot on the south side of the building. There has been discussion about
purchasing it, but it would cost quite a bit of money to make a parking lot
out of that. Whittington asked how many cars are parking out in the
neighborhoods. Goldsmith answered that there was 23 cars on the 700
block of S. Charlotte, but overall it's probably about 100-125 cars.
Whittington asked if Sunset Knoll can accommodate them. Goldsmith
replied that it would accommodate most of them. Schaefer asked if it
would be possible to put diagonal parking on Wilson and would that be
the responsibility of the school or the village. Goldsmith replied that it
would be the school's responsibility. Village staff suggested to the former
principal to create a one-way drive, which would have created 82
spaces, but they said they couldn't lose property from the fields. Cation
asked why the kids are not using Sunset Knoll. Badasarian replied that it
is farther to walk and it costs $25/semester. He went on to say that when
that lot was finished, the thought was that the spots would sell, but that
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didn't happen. The cost then was $50; the school has since dropped it to
$25. Ms. Urish asked if it is limited to seniors. Badasarian answered that
it is open to juniors and seniors. He added that maybe the school needs
to communicate it better, it could alleviate some of the congestion there.
Cation asked if the permit fee is for the cost of maintenance. Badasarian
replied that it is, the school numbers the spots and gives them a permit.
We want to make sure they are paying that fee and they have a
guaranteed space. Perkins suggested that perhaps others aren't aware
of it as well.
Goldsmith gave a brief overview of the situation and reviewed the
existing restrictions. Staff wanted to encompass areas already restricted.
Trustee Ware requested that the northern boundary be extended to
Madison so it's a natural boundary. The 2 hour restriction will allow
residents to use the street, but some level of restriction to make it difficult,
if not impossible, for students to use. Much like students have to have
parking, the Village has to have access to roadways and a safe
environment for residents. We need to find a balance. The Village did
contribute to the reconstruction of Sunset Knoll parking lot, along with
Glenbard East and the Park District. The intent was to alleviate student
parking. In 2014 the Village paid for an appraisal of the lot south of
Glenbard East. It appraised at $164k. A letter was sent to the
Superintendent, however the reply was that it did not fit into their plan at
that time. Staff did a mock up of the lot; it would pick up 42 spaces and
would funnel out to traffic signal. It would be an expensive proposition,
because there is nowhere to put stormwater. It would probably be about
$800k to acquire and construct. Staff believes that the restriction will
address the concerns, however, it will not solve every problem. There will
always be people who find ways to skirt it. It will cost approximately
$2-$3k to replace all of the signs, but it will be a phased approach.
DC Wirsing commented that from an enforcement perspective, although
there may be some people out there that would skirt the system, the
Police Department does have the resources for enforcement if
necessary. As far as permitting each resident, that would be difficult.
There are so many different variables, that there may still be tickets
issued that would then have to be fought at adjudication. The department
will make an effort, especially in the beginning, to do full force
enforcement. Schaefer added that he thinks that there would be a more
serious problem if there are that many kids running out there to move
cars. Badasarian explained that the kids start at 7 AM and first lunch is at
10:15, so that would be over the 2 hours. They can only leave during lunch
period and only certain kids that have earned it are allowed to leave.
Most of the kids that have the privilege to leave campus have a very full
schedule. He concluded with he does not think it will be an issue.
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Goldsmith added that the time period between classes is 5 minutes, so it
is unlikely that a student can leave.
Goldsmith spoke about what will be done with future petitions. Per the
proposed policy, staff is suggesting that if a petition is received from
areas outside of the proposed restriction area, they will be forwarded to
the Village Manager and he will work with staff to determine if it's a public
safety concern or a nuisance. If there is not a public safety concern no
action will be taken.
General discussion ensued.
A motion was made by John Schwarz, seconded by Bob Corbino, that this
Request be recommended to the Board of Trustees for approval of staff
recommendation, including signing the west side of Main Drive No Parking.
The motion passed by an unanimous vote.
160466 Edson Place & Elizabeth Street, Stop Sign Request
A resident request to install a stop sign. (DISTRICT #2)
Sgt. Grage commented that it was a bad accident, but fortunately no one
was hurt. The intersection does not meet warrants for a stop sign,
however, Public Works did install an arrow sign to give warning to
motorists.
A motion was made by John Larkin, Jr., seconded by Bob Corbino, that this
Request be denied. The motion passed by an unanimous vote.
7.0 Other Business
8.0 Information Only
150468 Fire Department Reports/Information
AC Howell told the committee that the Fire Department currently has a
driving simulator at Station 1. Lombard, along with 11 other agencies,
was awarded a $240k grant. The simulator is encapsulated in a trailer. In
the sim you can change maps; urban road, country road, snow, ice, dark.
There are cameras that look at their feet, their eyes, did they cover the
brake, did they look left or right. AC Howell invited the committee to
come see it or drive it. It will be at the station for the rest of the month.
150469 Police Department Reports/Information
DC Wirsing gave a brief update of Police Department activities. The
annual shop with a cop is December 3rd. There are about 10 kids
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participating, as well as, 15-18 staff and the Citizens Police Academy.
The Department is moving forward on the new range.
Sgt. Grage informed the committee that with the new grant, the first
officer that went out had a DUI arrest and a felony DUI. Last year, this
time, there were 177 DUIs, we are currently at 207. Last years total was
204.
Schwarz asked how the boot program was going. Sgt. Grage said they
are currently playing cat and mouse with a trucking company that owes
over $10k.
9.0 Adjournment
A motion was made by Bob Corbino, seconded by John Larkin, Jr., to adjourn
the meeting at 8:13 PM. The motion carried unanimously.
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Agenda
Village Hall
Village of Lombard 255 East Wilson Ave.
Lombard, IL 60148
villageoflombard.org
Meeting Agenda
Public Safety & Transportation
Committee
Trustee Dan Whittington, Chairperson
Trustee Mike Fugiel, Alternate Chairperson
Jennifer Perkins, Michael Corso, John Larkin,
John Schwarz, Robert Corbino, Gary Cation,
Jerry Schaefer and John Mullins
Monday, November 14, 2016 7:00 PM Lorraine G. Gerhardt Community Room
1.0 Call to Order and Pledge of Allegiance
2.0 Roll Call
3.0 Public Participation
4.0 Approval of Minutes
5.0 Unfinished Business
6.0 New Business
160464 Amendment to Parking Restrictions
A staff recommendation to establish a 2-hour parking restriction
between the hours of 9 AM and 3 PM on school days in an area within a
1/3 mile radius of the property lines for Glenbard East High School.
(DISTRICT# 2 & 6)
160466 Edson Place & Elizabeth Street, Stop Sign Request
A resident request to install a stop sign. (DISTRICT #2)
7.0 Other Business
8.0 Information Only
150468 Fire Department Reports/Information
150469 Police Department Reports/Information
9.0 Adjournment
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