Public Safety Committee
Regular MeetingLouisville, KY · July 15, 2020
Minutes
601 W. Jefferson Street
Louisville Metro Government Louisville, KY 40202
Action Summary - Final
Public Safety Committee
Chair Person Jessica Green (D-1)
Vice Chair James Peden (R-23)
Committee Member Barbara Shanklin (D-2)
Committee Member Barbara Sexton Smith (D-4)
Committee Member Mark H. Fox (D-13)
Committee Member Marilyn Parker (R-18)
Committee Member Madonna Flood (D-24)
Wednesday, July 15, 2020 3:30 PM Council Chambers
Call to Order
Chair Person Green called the meeting to order at 3:30 p.m.
Roll Call
Chair Person Green introduced the committee members and non-committee
members present. A quorum was established.
*NOTE: All committee members and non-committee members present attended
virtually.
Present: 6- Chair Person Jessica Green (D-1), Vice Chair James Peden (R-23), Committee
Member Barbara Shanklin, Committee Member Barbara Sexton Smith (D-4),
Committee Member Marilyn Parker (R-18), and Committee Member Madonna Flood
(D-24)
Absent: 1- Committee Member Mark H. Fox (D-13)
Non-Committee Member(s)
President David James (D-6)
Support Staff
Hollie Hopkins, Jefferson County Attorney's Office
Alice Lyon, Jefferson County Attorney's Office
Clerk(s)
Mary Whitlock, Assistant Clerk
Connie M. Dearing, Assistant Clerk
Sonya Harward, Clerk
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Special Discussion
1. ID 20-0873
Drug and Alcohol Testing: Dr. Bill Smock, Chief Robert Schroeder, Louisville Metro
Police Department, Ryan Nichols, President , Fraternal Order of Police
The following spoke to this item:
- Council President James
- Committee Member Sexton Smith
- Dr. Bill Smock, Surgeon, Louisville Metro Police Department
- Chief Robert Schroeder, Louisville Metro Police Department
- Ryan Nichols, President, Fraternal Order of Police
- Major Jamey Schwab, Special Investigations, Louisville Metro Police
Department
- Chair Person Green
- Committee Member Shanklin
- Committee Member Parker
- Vice Chair Peden
- Committee Member Flood
- Hollie Hopkins, Jefferson County Attorney's Office
- Alice Lyon, Jefferson County Attorney's Office
The following was discussed:
- Drug and alcohol testing with officers when a critical incident occurs which
would protect the Officers and the Community
- Educating colleagues and general public regarding the issue of drugs and
alcohol testing
- In 30 years, have not come across officers using drugs/alcohol during duty
- Safe pathway for officers and citizen
- Forensic exams
- Evidence is reserved in Medical Department
- How criminal investigations are done
- Sections of the Bargaining Agreement regarding the drug test covers the
drug test policy agreements
- Process contract expires July 27th; will be meeting with the city
- Random Drug Policy cannot change the contract
- Risk of unfair labor policy, need more refined language from city side
- Drug test and criminal prosecution
- Exploring test and how mandated test can be used
- Criminal investigations and how they are done
- Steroid and prescription drug testing
- Testing people with a drug test before hiring
- Random drug testing data
- Concern if other agencies first responders have any testing if signs of erratic
behavior
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Pending Legislation
2. O-276-20
AN ORDINANCE REQUIRING DRUG AND ALCOHOL TESTING OF LOUISVILLE
METRO POLICE DEPARTMENT OFFICERS WHEN CRITICAL INCIDENTS OCCUR.
Sponsors:Primary David James (D-6) and Primary Barbara Sexton Smith (D-4)
Attachments: O-276-20 V.1 062520 Police Drug Testing.pdf
This item was held in committee.
3. R-090-20
A RESOLUTION URGING THE ADOPTION OF POLICIES TO INCREASE
TRANSPARENCY INTO, AND EXPEDITE CLOSURE OF, POLICE INVESTIGATIONS.
Sponsors:Primary David James (D-6) and Primary Jessica Green (D-1)
Attachments: R-090-20 V.1 062520 - Transparency RE Police Investigations.pdf
This item was held in committee.
Adjournment
Without objection, Chair Person Green adjourned the meeting at 4:29 p.m.
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Agenda
601 W. Jefferson Street
Louisville Metro Government Louisville, KY 40202
Meeting Agenda - Final
Public Safety Committee
Chair Person Jessica Green (D-1)
Vice Chair James Peden (R-23)
Committee Member Barbara Shanklin (D-2)
Committee Member Barbara Sexton Smith (D-4)
Committee Member Mark H. Fox (D-13)
Committee Member Marilyn Parker (R-18)
Committee Member Madonna Flood (D-24)
Wednesday, July 15, 2020 3:30 PM Council Chambers
Call to Order
Roll Call
Special Discussion
1. ID 20-0873 Drug and Alcohol Testing: Dr. Bill Smock, Chief Robert Schroeder,
Louisville Metro Police Department, Ryan Nichols, President , Fraternal
Order of Police
Pending Legislation
2. O-276-20 AN ORDINANCE REQUIRING DRUG AND ALCOHOL TESTING OF
LOUISVILLE METRO POLICE DEPARTMENT OFFICERS WHEN
CRITICAL INCIDENTS OCCUR.
Sponsors: Primary David James (D-6) and Primary Barbara Sexton Smith (D-4)
Attachments: O-276-20 V.1 062520 Police Drug Testing.pdf
Legislative History
6/25/20 Metro Council assigned to the Public Safety Committee
Action Required By: December 2020
6/26/20 Metro Council assigned to the Public Safety Committee
Action Required By: December 2020
3. R-090-20 A RESOLUTION URGING THE ADOPTION OF POLICIES TO INCREASE
TRANSPARENCY INTO, AND EXPEDITE CLOSURE OF, POLICE
INVESTIGATIONS.
Sponsors: Primary David James (D-6) and Primary Jessica Green (D-1)
Attachments: R-090-20 V.1 062520 - Transparency RE Police Investigations.pdf
Legislative History
6/25/20 Metro Council assigned to the Public Safety Committee
Action Required By: December 2020
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6/26/20 Metro Council assigned to the Public Safety Committee
Action Required By: December 2020
Adjournment
Note: Agendas are followed at the discretion of the Chair Person. While an item may be listed, it
does not mean all items will be heard and/or acted upon by the Committee.
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