Public Safety Committee
Regular MeetingLouisville, KY · November 16, 2020
Minutes
601 W. Jefferson Street
Louisville Metro Government Louisville, KY 40202
Action Summary - Final
Public Safety Committee
Chair Jessica Green (D-1)
Vice Chair James Peden (R-23)
Committee Member Barbara Shanklin (D-2)
Committee Member Barbara Sexton Smith (D-4)
Committee Member Mark H. Fox (D-13)
Committee Member Marilyn Parker (R-18)
Committee Member Madonna Flood (D-24)
Monday, November 16, 2020 3:00 PM Council Chambers
THIS IS CONSIDERED A SPECIAL MEETING
Call to Order
Chair Green called the meeting to order at 3:02 p.m.
Roll Call
Chair Green introduced the committee members and non-committee members
present. A quorum was established.
*NOTE: All committee members and non-committee members present attended
virtually.
Present: 6- Chair Jessica Green (D-1), Vice Chair James Peden (R-23), Committee Member
Barbara Shanklin (D-2), Committee Member Barbara Sexton Smith (D-4),
Committee Member Mark H. Fox (D-13), and Committee Member Marilyn Parker
(R-18)
Excused: 1- Committee Member Madonna Flood (D-24)
Non-Committee Member(s)
Council Member Keisha Dorsey (D-3); Council Member Donna Purvis (D-5);
Council President David James (D-6); Council Member Paula McCraney (D-7);
Council Member Bill Hollander (D-9); Council Member Kevin Kramer (R-11);
Council Member Cindi Fowler (D-14); Council Member Kevin Triplett (D-15); and
Council Member Nicole George (D-21)
Support Staff
Hollie Hopkins, Jefferson County Attorney's Office
Alice Lyon, Jefferson County Attorney's Office
Clerk(s)
Sonya Harward, Clerk
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Pending Legislation
1. O-481-20
AN ORDINANCE CREATING THE CIVILIAN REVIEW & ACCOUNTABILITY BOARD AND
THE OFFICE OF INSPECTOR GENERAL, AND ABOLISHING THE CITIZEN COMMISSION
ON POLICE ACCOUNTABILITY. (AMENDMENT BY SUBSTITUTION)
Sponsors:Primary Paula McCraney (D-7), Primary Bill Hollander (D-9) and Primary David James
(D-6)
Attachments: O-481-20 V.4 FABS 111920 Civilian Rev. and Acct. Board and
OIG.pdf
O-481-20 V.3 CABS-CAM 111120 Civilian Rev. and Acct. Board and
OIG.pdf
O-481-20 V.2 CAM 102820 Civilian Rev. and Acct. Board and OIG.pdf
O-481-20 V.1 102220 Civilian Rev. and Acct. Board and OIG.pdf
O-481-20 PROPOSED FABS 111920 Civilian Rev. and Acct. Board
and OIG.pdf
O-481-20 PROPOSED CABS 111120 Civilian Rev. and Acct. Board
and OIG.pdf
Impetus Statement on Civilian Review Final 11-16-20.pdf
A motion was made by Vice Chair Peden, seconded by Committee Member
Sexton Smith, that this Ordinance be untabled.
Council Member McCraney spoke about this item and stated that it was good
legislation for the citizens of the community who want to be assured that
police are being held accountable for any misconduct, and good for the police
officers who can be assured that if they are accused wrongly it will be
investigated as well. She also spoke in opposition of the amendments that
were made to the Ordinance at the previous Committee meeting.
Guests invited by Council Member McCraney also spoke to this item:
- Joe Reagan, Impetus Group (statement attached hereto)
- Scott Dickens
- Judy Schroeder, Member of Civilian Review Board Work Group
- Rev. Eric French, Member of Civilian Review Board Work Group
A motion was made by Vice Chair Peden, seconded by Committee Member
Parker, that this Ordinance be amended to allow the Civilian Review Board to
have independent legal counsel aside from the Jefferson County Attorney's
Office.
Vice Chair Peden stated that he was proposing the amendment because with
every significant case regarding a complaint/allegation brought against Metro
Government appears to involve a cover up by various parties.
Committee Member Sexton Smith asked if it was legal for the Council to allow
the Board to have independent legal counsel by stating such in an Ordinance.
Hollie Hopkins, Jefferson County Attorney's Office, responded by stating the
provisions allowed by KRS 67C regarding who is authorized to represent the
Council and Metro Government.
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Chair Green asked if she understood it correctly that the Council has the ability
to hire legal counsel but cannot give that power to another entity. Hollie
Hopkins responded by referencing KRS 67C.115(5), which states that the
Council could retain legal counsel for itself solely for advice and consultation.
Council Member McCraney referenced Section 36.82(b) of the Ordinance
regarding the Inspector General having the power to employ necessary
personnel and contract with outside experts and consultants as needed.
The motion to amend failed by the following vote:
Yes: 3- Peden, Fox, and Parker
No: 3- Green, Shanklin, and Sexton Smith
Excused: 1- Flood
Enactment No: Ordinance 147-2020
The motion to recommend for approval carried by the following vote and the
Ordinance was sent to Old Business.
Yes: 6- Green, Peden, Shanklin, Sexton Smith, Fox, and Parker
Excused: 1- Flood
Enactment No: Ordinance 147-2020
Adjournment
Without objection, Chair Green adjourned the meeting at 3:42 p.m.
NOTE: Items sent to the Consent Calendar or Old Business will be heard before the full Council at
the Metro Council Meeting on November 19, 2020.
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Agenda
601 W. Jefferson Street
Louisville Metro Government Louisville, KY 40202
Meeting Agenda - Final
Public Safety Committee
Chair Jessica Green (D-1)
Vice Chair James Peden (R-23)
Committee Member Barbara Shanklin (D-2)
Committee Member Barbara Sexton Smith (D-4)
Committee Member Mark H. Fox (D-13)
Committee Member Marilyn Parker (R-18)
Committee Member Madonna Flood (D-24)
Monday, November 16, 2020 3:00 PM Council Chambers
THIS IS CONSIDERED A SPECIAL MEETING
Call to Order
Roll Call
Pending Legislation
1. O-481-20 AN ORDINANCE CREATING THE CIVILIAN REVIEW &
ACCOUNTABILITY BOARD AND THE OFFICE OF INSPECTOR
GENERAL, AND ABOLISHING THE CITIZEN COMMISSION ON POLICE
ACCOUNTABILITY (AMENDMENT BY SUBSTITUTION) (AS
AMENDED).
Sponsors: Primary Paula McCraney (D-7), Primary Bill Hollander (D-9) and Primary David James
(D-6)
Attachments: O-481-20 V.2 CABS-CAM 111120 Civilian Rev. and Acct. Board and OIG.pdf
O-481-20 PROPOSED CABS 111120 Civilian Rev. and Acct. Board and OIG.pdf
O-481-20 V.2 CAM 102820 Civilian Rev. and Acct. Board and OIG.pdf
O-481-20 V.1 102220 Civilian Rev. and Acct. Board and OIG.pdf
Legislative History
10/22/20 Metro Council assigned to the Public Safety Committee
Action Required By: April 2021
10/28/20 Public Safety Committee amended
10/28/20 Public Safety Committee amended
10/28/20 Public Safety Committee amended
10/28/20 Public Safety Committee amended
10/28/20 Public Safety Committee amended
10/28/20 Public Safety Committee amended
10/28/20 Public Safety Committee tabled
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11/11/20 Public Safety Committee untabled
11/11/20 Public Safety Committee amended
11/11/20 Public Safety Committee amended
11/11/20 Public Safety Committee amended
11/11/20 Public Safety Committee amended
11/11/20 Public Safety Committee tabled
Adjournment
Note: Agendas are followed at the discretion of the Chair. While an item may be listed, it does
not mean all items will be heard and/or acted upon by the Committee.
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