CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS COMMITTEE
Regular MeetingMilwaukee, WI · May 26, 2010
Minutes
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City of Milwaukee Milwaukee, Wisconsin
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Meeting Minutes
CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS COMMITTEE
ALD. JOSEPH DUDZIK, CHAIR
Ald. Robert Bauman, Ald. Michael Murphy, Ghassan Korban,
Martin Matson, Mark Nicolini, and Mariano Schifalacqua
Staff Assistant: Tobie Black, 286-2231; Fax: 286-3456,
tblack@milwaukee.gov
Fiscal Planning Specialist: Kathleen Brengosz, 286-3926,
kbreng@milwaukee.gov
Wednesday, May 26, 2010 9:00 AM Room 301-B, City Hall
Meeting called to order at 9:10 a.m.
1. Roll call
Members Present: 6- Ald. Bauman, Gerard Froh (Ald. Murphy Alternate), Jeffrey
Mantes, Mike Daun (W. Martin Morics Alternate), Mark Nicolini, and Mariano
Schifalacqua
Also present: Venu Gupta, Dept. of Public Works and Kathleen Brengosz, Fiscal
Planning Specialist
2. Review and approval of the minutes of the May 5, 2010 meeting
Mr. Nicolini moved approval of the meeting minutes. There were no objections.
3. Discussion relating to the criteria that will be used to determine the validity of the
requested 2011 capital improvement projects
Ald. Bauman said that whatever the committee adopts should be as simple as
possible.
Mr. Daun suggested that Ms. Brengosz present the summary of criteria that was
submitted by committee members.
Ms. Brengosz said that the summary of criteria submitted to committee members is a
summary of how different municipalities nationwide tend to look at when evaluating
their capital improvement projects. It was intentionally very broad to make it clear
that capital improvements can encompass many things, including health and safety
concerns and regulatory compliance. The list of criteria was generated to provide a
basis for the committee to determine its objectives.
Mr. Daun asked if prioritizing projects to be part of the capital budget is an objective
of the committee. Ms. Brengosz said yes.
Mr. Schifalacqua said that just because something gets five points and something
gets one point, it does not mean that the project that gets five points is five times
more worthy. He also said that good common sense should be used to evaluate
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projects and it should not be done mathematically.
Ms. Brengosz said that the summary of criteria was meant to be a framework for
ranking projects. She said that when a number of projects are all categorized as
essential, there needs to be a way to prioritize the projects.
Ald. Bauman said that the Budget Office has already been applying specific criteria to
budget requests concerning capital projects that come from city departments. He
asked if there was a reason to deviate from the process of the Budget Office that has
been undertaken to date. Mr. Nicolini said that the city will establish a levy-supported
borrowing target. To control the debt service, the city will established a debt target.
He also said that projects that are deemed to be absolutely required are considered
first. Mr. Nicolini also said that the categories that Mr. Mantes has suggested are
used by the Budget Office to organize its work and that the office in its upcoming
analysis is highlighting core infrastructure, local streets and sewers because of their
importance.
Mr. Nicolini said that a priority is established within the DPW core recurring programs.
He also said that as the local street program has been increased, as is the plan for
2011, there is concern about what kind of impact will it have on street lighting and
conduits, in particular. Once you establish a priority, it can create a byproduct of the
raising of other programs.
Mr. Nicolini said that once an initial analysis is done by the Budget Office, it tries to
target categories with certain amounts and the analyst within the categories will try to
prioritize and make recommendations.
Ald. Bauman asked what power the committee has to make binding
recommendations and if the Capital Improvements Committee is just an advisory
committee to the Budget Office. Mr. Nicolini said the charge of the committee each
year is to make a requested capital improvement budget, although certain categories
are not to be included in that requested budget, and that the requested budget from
the committee is an important input on the executive budget process. He also said
that departments are to ultimately send requests to the committee and the committee
would usually make a request to the Budget Office no later than the second Tuesday
in May. For this year, the committee could still play an important role in identifying
priorities and key criteria. He also said that if desired, the Budget Office can present
the Mayor's budget recommendations early enough in the fall so the committee can
respond and react to that budget proposal.
Ms. Brengosz said purpose of the committee is to evaluate what needs to be done to
preserve the city's infrastructure and to weigh that against what funding is available.
Ald. Bauman read from the city ordinance which regulates the committee. He said
that the committee is behind schedule according to the ordinance and that the
committee is to make a submission to the Department of Administration, which may
not be possible for the current year.
Mr. Daun said that in terms of establishing criteria, the committee would only really
begin to play a crucial role as the city moves into its 2012 budget as the city
departments have already prepared their 2011 requests. Mr. Daun said that the
departments should be looking at the committee's criteria for determining validity
when forming their requests. He said that the city is very conservative when it comes
to repaying its debt and that he agrees that an emphasis on infrastructure should be
made.
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Ald. Bauman asked if motor vehicles such as fire trucks are under the scope of the
committee's intent. Mr. Mantes said that there was some discussion relative to
whether the committee, in the future, might want to take up matters outside of the
current scope of the ordinance. Ald. Bauman said that if the scope of the committee
was not expanded, it is limited to physical infrastructure and city-owned facilities.
Mr. Mantes agreed with Mr. Daun that the committee's actions need to be viewed as
a long-term planning effort. He said that there will be some peaks since different
areas of infrastructure will need to be repaired before others.
Mr. Schifalacqua asked if the committee could be kept in the loop as the Budget
Office does its evaluations and if it can give input before the Mayor's budget is
completed. Mr. Nicolini said that the Budget Office is looking at prioritizing certain
projects and that the evaluation of these projects can be brought before the
committee.
Ald. Bauman said that the requests of departments for facility-related projects could
be brought to the committee. Mr. Nicolini said that facility related projects that are
related to preserving the operation of a department may be evaluated by the
committee.
Mr. Daun said that a self-pay mechanism could be created to pay for certain capital
needs and if facilities will be preserved responsibly, the committee must do more than
rank the projects based on criteria.
Ms. Brengosz said that the most important things to look at are the sustainability of
projects and what the payback is for the city. She suggested focusing on specific
criteria. Different departments have different ways of evaluating their projects, so
getting a few specific criteria out to departments to use to evaluate their projects
would be helpful. She suggested choosing four or five focus areas and coming up
with a list of questions that the committee could submit to the departments for them to
consider and to include a ranking sheet or scoring sheet that the committee could
use or that the departments could fill out themselves.
Mr. Daun asked if the committee should take the departments' priorities as they are
and look at major allocations or reallocations, or if the committee should get
underneath the department priorities and examine them. Mr. Schifalacqua said that
the departments, at least initially, should be left to run their programs, but as the
committee begins to work on developing condition reports and replacement reports it
should start looking at working with the departments on developing their priority lists
within the programs. He also said that the programs should be put into categories
and the committee should look at the amount of funding and how things are funded.
Mr. Mantes moved to establish as part of the criteria development process that the
public improvements be divided into the categories suggested in the May 21, 2010
letter from Mr. Mantes to Ald. Dudzik. There were no objections.
Ald. Bauman said that different criteria would be developed for each category.
Ms. Brengosz said that the difference between evaluating programs versus projects
could be a disadvantage. She also said that she is concerned about how the
categories work with the criteria that departments use to evaluate. She also said that
her vision of the task of the committee was looking at an overall program and trying
to make sure that a department was staying on track and keeping up with maintaining
infrastructure, not nitpicking individual projects.
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Ald. Bauman said that the real evaluating comes with the large one-time
expenditures, largely in the public building category, not projects like the replacement
of sewers and water mains.
Ald. Bauman said that perhaps the committee should develop detailed criteria in
connection with categories that are more project related, such as public buildings and
energy improvements. He said that the detailed criteria would not be needed for
evaluating special projects, such as the streetcar connector and construction of a
new police administration building.
Mr. Nicolini suggested using the remainder of this year to get replacement of cycle
information and other information to provide input for the 2012 budget and for
updating the next 6-year Capital Plan.
Mr. Schifalacqua said that the priorities of the committee with regard to programs is
determining how big a program should be and how much the city should be allocating
each year as well as having input in how programs should be funded.
Mr. Froh said that the committee should be in favor of operational savings for
projects. He said that savings and benefits and the effect on long term operations
should be a primary concern of the committee.
Mr. Nicolini suggested adding economic development as a category for evaluation of
projects and programs. Ald. Bauman suggested expanding Special Projects to
include economic development.
Ald. Bauman said that the committee should develop an evaluation matrix for the
Public Buildings category. Mr. Mantes suggested developing a matrix for the Parks,
Recreation and Open Spaces category and Mr. Schifalacqua suggested a matrix for
the Special Projects/Economic Development category as well. There were no
objections.
Ms. Brengosz asked what would be considered under Special Projects and how it is
distinguished from other projects.
Ald. Bauman suggested that Special Projects be defined as "extraordinary,
non-recurring projects of a substantial nature". The committee agreed.
Ms. Brengosz asked the question: In terms of format, does the committee want to
keep the rating sheet that was developed? Ald. Bauman said that the committee
would like to use the rating sheet for the Public Buildings, Parks, Recreation and
Open Spaces and Special Projects/Economic Development categories. For the other
categories, he said the committee will continue assembling data instead of evaluating
criteria.
Mr. Daun said that taking a long-range look at programs and projects will be a
tremendous benefit of the committee and will be value added for both the
administration and the council.
Out of the three different samples of rating sheets that were provided to the
committee by Ms. Brengosz, Mr. Schifalacqua said that he preferred Sample Two as
it contained a weighting provision for the various categories.
Mr. Schifalacqua moved to make the rating sheet with the weighting provision the
rating sheet used by the committee. Mr. Nicolini seconded the motion. There were
no objections.
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4. Next meeting date, time and agenda
Next meeting:
A report back on narrowing down the three distinct evaluation criteria for the three
categories that are project-oriented which were moved on at today's meeting.
Mr. Schifalacqua asked that Ms. Brengosz break down the capital requests that the
committee has received into the categories that were approved at today's meeting.
Meeting adjourned at 10:20 a.m.
Staff Assistant Tobie Black
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