CITY-COUNTY ADVISORY BOARD ON CLIMATE AND ECONOMIC EQUITY
Regular MeetingMilwaukee, WI · February 3, 2021
Minutes
200 E. Wells Street
City of Milwaukee Milwaukee, Wisconsin
53202
Meeting Minutes
CITY-COUNTY TASK FORCE ON CLIMATE AND ECONOMIC EQUITY
Ald. Nik Kovac and
Sup. Marcelia Nicholson, Co-Chairs
Pam Fendt, Linda Frank, Julie Kerksick, Ted Kraig, Janet
Meissner Pritchard, Supreme Moore Omokunde, Pamela
Ritger, Erick Shambarger, Rafael Smith, and Freida Webb
Staff Assistant: Linda Elmer, lelmer@milwaukee.gov,
414-286-2231
Legislative Liason: Luke Knapp, luke.knapp@milwaukee.gov,
414-286-8637
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Wednesday, February 3, 2021 9:30 AM Vitual
Green Buildings Work Group
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9:34 am call to order
Roll Call:
Pam Ritger, Clean WI
Erick Shambarger, ECO – new construction plan; energy retrofit; commercial buildings
green building standards
George Martin, TF NAACP – 350.org Milwaukee
Larry Hoffman, observer, not member, MECA – new construction; advocacy at
Common Council meetings
Ted Kraig, TF Climate Table; energy burden for low income people
Donna Mrugala, Sherman Park
Kevin Kane, Homeowners United – green financing
Linda Frank, TF for Sierra Club – energy burden
Elizabeth Hittman, ECO – green building
Jill McClellan, structural engineer – sustainablize; set an example
Gordie Bennett, Milw. County Sustainability – increase accessibility to high
performance housing
Larry Kilmer , City Housing Rehab – affordable retrofits
Joseph Peletis, UWM student, working on net zero home project, premanufactured
Mariela Paz, MWERC – energy efficiency projects and others
Anne White, works with developer – wants to further the TF goals
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Michael Olen, works on deconstruction, training for green construction jobs, needs a
market for the materials, can get 10,000 board feet of material from a building, vintage
framing material; on Intl Code Council addressing sever weather, etc.
Jacob Walton, WRTP/BIG STEP – workforce development, green jobs
Shilpa Sankaran, of Madison, formerly with net zero organization – zero emission
buildings; equity and affordability
Kimya Green, MATC operational budget for pathways – diversity; jobs
Kathleen Ellis, MATC Energy Manager – dramatic reduction through building codes
and standards and benchmarking; ASHRAE representative – working on building
codes
Korinne Haeffel, US Bank Building Council – looking for alignments with USGBC;
healthy buildings healthy economy
Amanda Schienebeck, MREA, Solar in Schools – sustainability and green building
design
Warren Jones, VP Construction Travau of the City, largest low income houser in the
city – energy efficient homes; Westlawn model of theirs; looking to improve their
products and services
Cara Walls, with Joseph, UWM masters student – wellness of the community
Rock Ridolfi, RIVION – residential multifamily energy efficiency
Professor Mark Keane; Keane @uwm.edu; Next.cc nonprofit for students – design
ideas
Dan Kalkman, TKWA
PETER RICKMAN, mash UNION – efficiency
Jennifer Evans, OWENS – direct communications – make homes affordable; retrofits;
integrate with transportation
Akira Mabon, multidisciplinary artist, now placed with Clean WI – sustainable green
buildings
1. Brief introductions of Work Group members to one another.
2. Discuss the Green Buildings Work Group tasks, template and timeline.
Pamela gave an overview
GHG inventory report
Iclei can be available
Small budget for consulting
Commercial and residential – should they be separate or combined in our approach
Erick
Overview of working groups
GHG inventory – buildings are a huge source
One big idea approach
Chapters to be devoted to buildings
New residential
Retrofits
Commercial buildings
Gordie – will commercial include industrial? Erick - Yes, we will address both
Linda – lack of clarity in the inventory as to commercial/industrial breakdown
Erick – industrial energy use is mostly from use of equipment
Jill – statewide building code – can municipal amendments be utilized? Erick says it
appears we cannot override but there are approaches like tax incremental financing
Pam – state task force recommendations should be reviewed, esp. as to changes in
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building codes – for next meeting agenda
3. Discuss time commitment of members and meeting logistics.
Pam on meeting logistics
Twice monthly meetings for 1.5 hours; set meeting time to be identified; select a good
recurring time on next poll
Everyone attending is assumed to be interested in joining and Pam will add them
unless you say otherwise
Larry – what timeline? Erick – next 3 months will be the most intense
Pam did screen share and addressed open meeting rules; email Pam directly instead
of the whole work group
Pam had outline through Dec. 2021
Gordie – subgroup membership; when will we sign up; Pam – next meeting; ICLEI
POLICY OPTIONS AND MATERIALS will be sent; send in your ideas which will be
gathered into a big spreadsheet
Prof. Keane – are funds in place?; Pam – no, we want to gear up for federal or state
funding that will be available
Social Development staff will also join us
Linda – suggesting that public Google Doc be created where all group members can
enter project ideas; Pam agreed this would be a good approach
4. Presentation from Shilpa Sankaran of Alpha Group on new housing strategy proposal.
Shilpa Sankaran presentation and screen share; ALPHA Group
(Erick - Rocky Mountain Institute has recommended Shilpa to Erick for this
presentation)
Co-founder of Prefab SME in San Francisco; factory building affordable housing, net
zero housing
Zero Energy / Carbon coalition of many organizations
Enabling residential developers
Work with Rocky Mountain Institute
Prefabricated retrofit
Netherlands public private retrofit
Energy burden in Milwaukee; also deteriorating housing stock; vacant lots where
homes were demolished now owned by city; too expensive to get bank financing to put
in new housing due to low housing values in the neighborhoods
Linda – majority Black census tracts
Workforce development – training on these energy efficient approaches
Air quality and circulation is esp. important to address with tighter buildings
Recipe
Orientation and slope
Small HVAC
Good thermal enclosure*
Clean energy source
Vest in class plug loads
Some dozen cities are implementing this
DOE qualification for net zero is pursued
Offsite construction – why?
Better quality control and weather control; no exposed wood; contractor and designer
sit together from the start; much better coordination during production; 70-90% less
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waste
Distinct from “manufactured”; this is real property, not personal property; panelized and
modular are two other building approaches
Components
SIP – structurally insulated panels
Etc.
Examples, from CA
3 were modular; one panel/timber frame; also 22-unit micro-unit building modular;
affordable housing apartment building retrofits panelized in Netherlands – panels were
snapped on, windows removed, mechanicals replaced – this inspired an industry and
supply chain enterprises
Milwaukee suggestions – not a project; a sustainable business model
Integrated a&e / factory / general contractor
Committed pipeline of projects
Leading city vision, policy, codes
30th Street Industrial Corridor; Century City Building – designed for manufacturers and
could now be the target venue
5-year pipeline commitment needed; financial commitment
Chicago effort – did not come through
Entrepreneurial mindset in Milwaukee; if it prevails, could make the difference
Panelized factory could be the start; module later
Bloomberg prize to be pursued
Questions
Examples nearby - Wausau Homes but is not modular; Madison has some framing but
not modular; Terrace Homes in central WI
Cost? Too many variables, but on par with on site production
Erick reminds that the vacant city lots would be a target area
Materials – wood, but less of it; no formaldehyde
Top firms – very different in Europe – can be inspiration but better to look here on the
east coast for modular, multifamily
City commitment, what’s needed – support it; codes; subsidies precedent is in place
per Erick
Alignment of lot on orientation and other criteria? Erick said that some of this is known
but GIS mapping can be done; SOLAR CAN BE LOOKED AT
Financing for retrofits; a development partner can provide some of this
Combine with park spaces; community solar, etc.? as far as shared amenities
Individual design or a portfolio to choose from? Standard lot sizes would play in, then,
a catalog could be designed; Erick points out that catalog approach could be more
feasible for affordability; mass customization allows you to choose components so it
becomes a custom project
Factory ownership – Melissa Scanlon is putting out a book on housing coops; Erick
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says public private partnership could be done, not public money
Air flow issue – it’s a challenge of net zero; DOE has a great deal of research on this
Social impact bonding for funding; Financing WG will address this
Resources – not yet available
3/31 deadline on Bloomberg challenge that we could aim for
5. Review of some initial data on high energy burdens (if time permits, otherwise, push to next
meeting)
Submit any agenda items to Pam
George – who will decide on this project, WG or TF?
Vote – some 19 could be seen with raised hands in favor of moving forward with this
project
2/9 meeting 8:30
11:21 am adjournment
Minutes provided by Pam Ritger.
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Agenda
200 E. Wells Street
City of Milwaukee Milwaukee, Wisconsin
53202
Meeting Agenda
CITY-COUNTY TASK FORCE ON CLIMATE AND ECONOMIC EQUITY
Ald. Nik Kovac, Chair
August Ball, Pam Fendt, Linda Frank, Julie Kerksick, Ted Kraig,
George Martin, Janet Meissner Pritchard, Pamela Ritger, Erick
Shambarger, and Rafael Smith
Staff Assistant: Linda Elmer, lelmer@milwaukee.gov,
414-286-2231
Legislative Liason: Luke Knapp, luke.knapp@milwaukee.gov,
414-286-8637
Wednesday, February 3, 2021 9:30 AM Vitual
Green Buildings Work Group
Join Zoom Meeting: https://us02web.zoom.us/j/4663463575?
pwd=NlRJWTJlQ2pCbENtSE9ORU1lSFMzUT09
Meeting ID: 466 346 3575
Passcode: Deuces
Or dial in by phone: 312 626 6799
Meeting ID: 466 346 3575
1. Brief introductions of Work Group members to one another.
2. Discuss the Green Buildings Work Group tasks, template and timeline.
3. Discuss time commitment of members and meeting logistics.
4. Presentation from Shilpa Sankaran of Alpha Group on new housing strategy proposal.
5. Review of some initial data on high energy burdens (if time permits, otherwise, push to next
meeting)
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