CITY-COUNTY ADVISORY BOARD ON CLIMATE AND ECONOMIC EQUITY
Regular MeetingMilwaukee, WI · March 17, 2021
Minutes
200 E. Wells Street
City of Milwaukee Milwaukee, Wisconsin
53202
Meeting Minutes
CITY-COUNTY TASK FORCE ON CLIMATE AND ECONOMIC EQUITY
Ald. Nik Kovac and
Marcelia Nicholson, Co-Chairs
Pam Fendt, Linda Frank, Julie Kerksick, Ted Kraig, Janet
Meissner Pritchard, Supreme Moore Omokunde, Pamela
Ritger, Erick Shambarger, and Rafael Smith
Staff Assistant: Linda Elmer, lelmer@milwaukee.gov,
414-286-2231
Legislative Liason: Luke Knapp, luke.knapp@milwaukee.gov,
414-286-8637
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Wednesday, March 17, 2021 10:00 AM Virtual
Green Buildings Work Group
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Meeting convened: 10:05 A.M.
Present, 31, (including guests and visitors):
Pam Ritger (chair), Linda Frank, Keane?, Rob Zimmerman, Anne White, Cara Walls,
Celaneese Landon, Glen Radford, Gordie Bennett, Jill McClellan, Joseph Peletis,
Kathleen Ellis, Kevin Kane (left 11:17), Korinne Haeffel, Michael Olen, Nathan
Jurowski, Rob Zimmerman, Victor Nino, Yvonne McCaskill, Akira Mabon, Jennifer
Evans, Donna Mrugula, Ted Kraig, Jermaine Alexander, Amanda (MREA), Renee,
Maithilee Kanthi (11:10?)
Absent:
Dan Kalkman, Elizabeth Hittman, Mariela Paz, Mo Zell, Patricia Sumnicht, Rock
Ridolfi
Guest
Erick Shambarger (project manager)
Larry Hoffman
Visitor
Ashley Norris, Amber Joshway
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1. Minute taker for this meeting. Following info to be recorded:
• Call to order time.
• Roll call
• Actions (with votes) if appropriate (including approval of prior meeting minutes)
• Appearances
• Adjournment time
2. Approve meeting minutes from March 3rd meeting.
No objections; minutes approved
3. Overview of Green Buildings recs from the State of Wisconsin Climate Change Task Force.
Pam presented on Evers’ Climate task force
Update commercial and residential building energy codes; we can advocate for this
Focus on Energy - % of revenue set aside by utilities per state law to assist
Homeowners with efficiency and renewables; doubling of funding
Support load management – incentives to reduce consumer energy demand
Low-cost debt financing like PACE commercially; City of Milwaukee PACE ordinance,
now considering expansion to brownfield development
Encourage utilities to provide on-bill financing – payment for upgrades over time
through the energy bill
4. Highlight opportunity to support energy efficiency and other climate and energy priorities in
Governor Evers’ 2021-23 Biennial Budget.
Pam presented briefly on this current opportunity
5. Continue discussing existing and add policy/project ideas in Break-Out Rooms for
Commercial Buildings, Residential Retrofits and Residential New Housing Strategies.
Pam advised members to start identifying emerging themes in break outs
Erick announced that a public platform was launched last night
WG members are invited to participate and to invite their contacts to participate
Move to break out rooms
Commercial, residential, residential retrofit
1. Attendees: Victor Nino, Rock Rodolfi, Donna (last name?), Renee Clair, Anne
White, Korinee Haeffel, Kathleen Ellis (?), Nathan Jurowski, Ashley (last name?), Jill
McClellan
2. Worked through all the policy ideas!
3. Energy Code Adoption (2021 IECC without lenient amendments)
a. Process is happening now
b. 4 council members are ready to be replaced (2 with fire credentials, 2 with
arch/eng credentials)
i. No current members have energy expertise
c. This has a large impact
d. WI has tended to not make things mandatory
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e. Who can we suggest, how do we get them on the council?
i. Korrine looking into candidates
ii. Pam looking into candidates
iii. Who is going to contact governor’s office, when?
f. (Erick) can we be writing resolutions while the code is being considered to not
miss a window?
4. How do other programs interplay (what can we use, are there new goals to define?)
a. Better building Challenge (MKE participated with ~no measurable energy use
reduction)
i. 20% energy reduction
ii. ~135 buildings participated
iii. Free energy audits and bench marking
iv. No follow up beyond that due to no incentive, flaw in the program,
v. How do we build in the next phases of the program, revamp/expand?
b. Mandate LEED
c. Living Building Challenge
d. Net zero goals
5. Process to achieve any energy use goals
a. (Mandatory) Benchmarking
b. Implement low/no cost solutions
i. Streamline permitting (this is not a great incentive here)
ii. Permitting discount
iii. Water/sewer discounts
c. Implement costly solutions
i. This depends on funding
ii. Double focus on energy funding
iii. Pace funding
iv. Rebates
v. Tax credits
vi. Energy user fees (Low energy user credits)
vii. Shared funding
viii. TIF (EV chargers required in Oconomowoc)
ix.
d. Audits
e. Retro commissioning
6. Education
a. Provide utility data to tenants
b. Make benchmarking public
c. Smart registers (i need to learn about this)
d. MPS/NEXT program
e. Life cycle cost of a building
f. Research what HVAC options exist on a commercial scale, heat pumps
7. Other topics
a. Deconstruction
b. Switching off natural gas
c. Mandate energy generation for new buildings
d. Covid: how does this affect our plan?
8. Next time:
a. Bring candidates for code adoption council
b. Work through project ideas
c. Energy generation
d. Energy consumption
e. Freedom in smaller jurisdictions
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f. Building reuse
g. Define, organize fed, state, local funding, gov and private funding
Minutes from New Housing Strategy Breakout Room
Need to do new housing within the context of anti-displacement efforts
2. Need to keep the mechanical systems simple so they last over time. Prioritize
good insulation
3. Michael Olen who manages the City’s deconstruction program will write a
proposal about how deconstruction material could be utilized in new construction
4. Need for citizen engagement and marketing the houses to our intended
audience.
5. Discussion about need to think about housing within the context of making
whole neighborhoods more desirable and climate resilient
6. Possibility of setting up some kind of escrow fund for new homeowners so they
can pay to maintain systems down the road.
Minutes from Residential Retrofits Breakout Room
Around the Work Group to hear what people are interested in:
Rob: A more accessible way to get an independent energy audit. A standard energy
audit is often done with the Home Energy Score and Building Performance Institute
framework.
Jermaine: Most interested in facilitating residential retrofits.
Gordie: Improve Energy Efficiency and make renewable energy more accessible.
Ted: creating a large-scale energy efficiency program with union jobs – already federal
funding available through the Dept. of Energy - $400 Million.
Larry: assist people with energy efficiency who can’t afford a loan – access through
government funds. Also, look at who has accessed the Me2 program, and how can
make it accessible to more people.
Amanda: Opportunities for schools to get more energy efficient – but those with the
highest energy burdens have the least time to dedicate to making upgrades.
Yvonne: Doing more listening today.
Celaneese: Also doing more listening.
Jennifer: interested in developing a specific program for targeted areas with a high
energy burden.
Celaneese provided info on the current weatherization program:
• Due to needed repairs (roof, foundation, clutter, vermin, other issues) the deferral
rate (homes that can’t be weatherized) is 44%. SDC sends out 13,000 applications,
about 10% are returned, of those 44% are deferred. They have a goal of weatherizing
690 units this year.
• Funding is increasingly limited for weatherization. Can’t always replace furnaces,
many homes need water heaters replaced, unless SIR is over 1, cannot weatherize the
home/unit.
• Celaneese will provide a presentation at a future meeting.
Kevin: talked about on-bill financing opportunity. Will provide a presentation at a future
meeting, as well.
Gordie: will do research into the units available for weatherizing/energy efficiency, other
data.
6. Report-out from Break-Out room discussions.
New Buildings, by Erick
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Michael Olen will report on deconstruction material
Address gentrification
Net zer and passive housing – make sure it meets the needs in the neighborhoods
Incentives for purchase and maintenance
Citizen engagement – overcome perception of what passive housing is and who it’s for
Residential retrofits, by Gordie
Need and funding for retrofits
Celaneese of SDC identified needs that the program is not able to meet; will present
next time
Kevin Kane advised us on on bill financing and possibility of designing it through the
water utility
Commercial buildings, by Jill McClellan
Adopt a new code; new council membership coming in and may be approached by TF;
Korinne Haeffel points out that there is a gap in code expertise that needs to be filled
with the new appointments; Pam offers to collaborate with Jill and Korinne on this
Erick points out that the task force can move on timely issues like the above even
while we are working through our planning
Existing programs, benchmarking highlighted as first step
Kevin, left at 11:17
Living Building, Better Building Challenge programs
7. Future meeting agenda items.
Pam will determine whether anticipated presentations will be given in break outs or the
full group
Erick has energy burden info
Electrification in housing should be addressed; new housing group needs to give this
some thought, pros and cons; Ted says that a fossil fuel installation will last for about
25 years; Anne White says commercial has identified a problem that the technology
may not be ready for use in commercial buildings in WI winters
Glen Radford raises the changes that the Covid experience may have; will new habits
be continued in terms of building occupancy
Pam asked us to identify ideas that are rising to the top.
8. Adjourn.
Meeting adjourned: 11:32 A.M.
Minutes provided by Pam Ritger.
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Agenda
200 E. Wells Street
City of Milwaukee Milwaukee, Wisconsin
53202
Meeting Agenda
CITY-COUNTY TASK FORCE ON CLIMATE AND ECONOMIC EQUITY
Ald. Nik Kovac and
Marcelia Nicholson, Co-Chairs
Pam Fendt, Linda Frank, Julie Kerksick, Ted Kraig, Janet
Meissner Pritchard, Supreme Moore Omokunde, Pamela Ritger,
Erick Shambarger, and Rafael Smith
Staff Assistant: Linda Elmer, lelmer@milwaukee.gov,
414-286-2231
Legislative Liason: Luke Knapp, luke.knapp@milwaukee.gov,
414-286-8637
Google documents for this body can be found at :
http://bit.ly/CCTFCEE
Wednesday, March 17, 2021 10:00 AM Virtual
Green Buildings Work Group
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1. Minute taker for this meeting. Following info to be recorded:
• Call to order time.
• Roll call
• Actions (with votes) if appropriate (including approval of prior meeting minutes)
• Appearances
• Adjournment time
2. Approve meeting minutes from March 3rd meeting.
3. Overview of Green Buildings recs from the State of Wisconsin Climate Change Task Force.
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4. Highlight opportunity to support energy efficiency and other climate and energy priorities in
Governor Evers’ 2021-23 Biennial Budget.
5. Continue discussing existing and add policy/project ideas in Break-Out Rooms for
Commercial Buildings, Residential Retrofits and Residential New Housing Strategies.
6. Report-out from Break-Out room discussions.
7. Future meeting agenda items.
8. Adjourn.
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