CITY-COUNTY ADVISORY BOARD ON CLIMATE AND ECONOMIC EQUITY
Regular MeetingMilwaukee, WI · August 5, 2021
Minutes
200 E. Wells Street
City of Milwaukee Milwaukee, Wisconsin
53202
Meeting Minutes
CITY-COUNTY TASK FORCE ON CLIMATE AND ECONOMIC EQUITY
Ald. Nik Kovac and
Sup. Marcelia Nicholson, Co-Chairs
Pam Fendt, Linda Frank, Julie Kerksick, Ted Kraig, Janet
Meissner Pritchard, Supreme Moore Omokunde, Pamela
Ritger, Erick Shambarger, Rafael Smith, and Freida Webb
Staff Assistant: Linda Elmer, lelmer@milwaukee.gov,
414-286-2231
Legislative Liason: Luke Knapp, luke.knapp@milwaukee.gov,
414-286-8637
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1. Call To Order (Time):
10:33am
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2. Roll Call
Ted Kraig, Matt Donath, Jennifer Evans, Jeff Stone, Mitch Harris, Marissa Meyer,
Akira Mabon, Pamela Ritger, Dennis Grzezinski
3. Review and Approval of Minutes
No minutes shared yet. Will share for approval at the next meeting.
4. Outreach and Education Plan
Jennifer Evans reviewed Education and Outreach Working Group’s plan. Looking for
survey questions for each one of the ten big ideas. Will get input at informational
events. Will use Social Pinpoint. Have three events scheduled so far. Looking to
schedule an event with this working group. Looking for one point person from each
group to work with one person from Education and Outreach working group. Not have a
volunteer yet for this working group. Example, land use working group will staff a table
at Fondy Market. Jobs and Equity group doing an in person event at African American
History Museum. Wide variety possible. Green Buildings group will be doing a round
table discussion. Toolkit on shared drive where can see progress. Hoping to be at
biking event to pass out information, September 18, we can’t speak but alder will refer
people to us. Can have Zoom presentation, maybe one for EV. Group can decide to do
more. Outdoor events best given COVID.
Matt suggests an event with everything we’re working on presented, rather than
breaking it up into subgroup focus. Could have it on the website. Not need to get into
the nitty gritty detail. Jennifer says looked at Yale climate communication research.
Need different kinds of events to reach different audiences. Therefore trying to have a
variety. In person best for marginalized groups. Social media and tradition media gets
to higher income white people.
Matt can speak further with Jennifer about moving forward. Lots going on with ARP
funding, etc. Dennis would help with one or more events. Jeff can help as well.
Jennifer will schedule a meeting with Ted included. Need to come up with questions
for the public. Some questions technical and some personal about what people would
use and the like. Jennifer is writing a short summary of the proposals to share on
Social Pinpoint.
5. Plan for Building Out Subgroup Preliminary Proposals
Ted and Matt discussed process to dive into the recommendations. Propose taking a
meeting for each of the subgroups’ proposals so that people can prepare and come
with questions, concerns, etc. Still need to figure out getting into writing. Maybe come
up with questions for public while working through the proposals.
6. Future Meetings and Next Steps
If Tanya available can do Vehicle Disincentive proposals for next meeting. Will give
people advance notice when decide. For Active Modes need to make sure James
Davies is present.
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7. Discussion of Fuel Shift Proposals
Work through the Fuel Shift subgroup proposals. Proposal #1 Charging Infrastructure
Ordinance – Madison did something like this and the process has already started in
Milwaukee. What is typical cost of charging station? Depends on level of charger and
type (dumb, smart, networked, etc.). Range is $2K to $10K for Level 2. Sometimes
vendors will pay. Maybe we can incentivize so property owners don’t have to pay
themselves. Impact on utility grid is a question. May require significant electrical
upgrades that have to be considered. Would include zoning code changes. No good
research on uptake. Not sure on what kind of opposition could face. Evidence that
following installation if charging infrastructure, EV sales go up dramatically. Finding
offsite locations especially helpful. Will be need for electricians. Need separate
training, especially for Level 3 chargers. Don’t know the numbers but should look into
it. DOE may have something. Pipeline for people to do the work has not been a
problem. ChargePoint uses local electricians. But could change if increasing at scale.
Need to work with Jobs and Equity working group. Timelines usually include couple
year grace period to get ready and phase up to higher percentages. Initially would be
just new developments, retroactively doing more costly, so require when repaving for
existing lots. Federal money would help with getting at existing lots and spaces.
Volkswagen money still out there. There is a Federal tax incentive, up to $30K per
location. Softens the blow. Need to push so that uptake at existing lots and locations.
Not necessarily need City budget for this. ECO can do the outreach and education.
Infrastructure bill could change much.
Proposal #2 EV Charging Network Plan – For need where limited off street parking
and the like. KC got 1,000 stations by utility in its territory. Piloting charging stations
on light posts. City not want to get into the business, but rather encourage others to do
the business. Vendors can make money off of it. WEC partnering is the easiest way to
do it. MG&E in Madison doing it. Work with them to come up with locations. Can look
at percentage requirements for installation in LMI communities. Can we partner with
gas stations to offer charging stations? Pam heard that Kwik Trip supportive of the
charging infrastructure. They see the writing on the wall. Level 3 chargers very
expensive, $50K + infrastructure. Gas stations logical place for Level 3 chargers. VW
money was supposed to be for this purpose. Could target stations near highway
corridors. Zoning code changes would take into account. Battery swapping stations
could be part of way this is done as well. Would have metrics to measure such as
public charging points per million with timelines and phases, build annually. Probably
not need City budget and capacity beyond existing. ECO and other departments can
likely do it, but still may need more staff.
#3 – Get utilities to offer programs for EV infrastructure. All goes through PSC. We
can weigh in. Is a proposed pilot that was approved so people pay back on bill with no
up front cost. Can reduce up front cost. Utilities are starting to take initiative. Don’t
know if there’s discussion of additional incentives for LMI households. Might be certain
percentage that needs to be for LMI households. Pam will send the pilot information.
#4 – Advocate for infrastructure investment at state level, especially on interstate
corridors.
#5 – Converting City fleet to EV or PHEVs. Started on it. Haven’t determined exact
percentages. Have interdepartmental EV group. Have consultant for EV decision
matrix, for example based on distance vehicle travels daily and type of vehicle for use.
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Maybe clean fleet by 2030. For now may exclude heavy vehicles because not feasible.
At very least should purchase hybrids immediately. Police vehicles must be all wheel
drive and drive in snow. If job can be done by EV will be a requirement. Main thing is
to get all departments on board. All have been supportive. Big step to even be phasing
it in. Certainly reasonable to have half the fleet EV by 2030. May cost City money for
the charging infrastructure. Phasing means not immediate crunch. Some buildings
may have to have electrical upgrades. Not great financing options. Federal money
would help. Would likely need capital funding through city budget. Could do as part of
performance contracts for energy upgrades at City buildings.
#6 – Install chargers at City lots and libraries. Did this at four libraries to have them
charger ready. Can do even this year. Next step is publicly owned garages and surface
lots. Would do directly rather than have vendors come in. Many questions like charges
and demand charges. Would need to be budgeted and financed through City budget
beyond the first few this year. Or find grant funding.
#7 – Pilot chargers in lots, light poles, etc. – Need to figure out what can scale up
quickly and measure progress. Pilot to figure out best way to build out. Near term if
can get funding. Some vendors would do potentially more quickly rather than going
through budget process. Or WEC could work with us on this. Need to flesh out the
details more.
#8 – Renewable Natural Gas (RNG) for CNG stations – RNG from digesters, landfills,
etc. Less harmful if burn in vehicles rather than direct release. Some discussion of
developing local sources more, local landfills, etc. Right now high demand and can’t
even get gas from the local sources. New sources going on line all the time. Cost
saving to procure and burn in City vehicles because there’s tax credits. Should have by
next year.
#9 – Lobby for more local RNG use – much from dairy farms. State level incentive
would help. Costly to do it, so need the state incentives to create the business model.
Ted – Could we have a proposal for access to LMI families? Much is funded at state
level. Might be advocacy at that level. City lacks the resources.
Ted – Can a requirement be made of taxis to be EV? Need to look into it. Not know
feasibility.
8. Public Questions or Comments – Up to 2 minutes per speaker
9. Next Meeting Date
For now look at returning to Tuesday, 11:00am times. Tentatively Aug 17. Ted will do a
poll to find out availability.
10. Adjourn (Time)
12:06pm
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Agenda
200 E. Wells Street
City of Milwaukee Milwaukee, Wisconsin
53202
Meeting Agenda
CITY-COUNTY TASK FORCE ON CLIMATE AND ECONOMIC EQUITY
Ald. Nik Kovac and
Sup. Marcelia Nicholson, Co-Chairs
Pam Fendt, Linda Frank, Julie Kerksick, Ted Kraig, Janet
Meissner Pritchard, Supreme Moore Omokunde, Pamela Ritger,
Erick Shambarger, Rafael Smith, and Freida Webb
Staff Assistant: Linda Elmer, lelmer@milwaukee.gov,
414-286-2231
Legislative Liason: Luke Knapp, luke.knapp@milwaukee.gov,
414-286-8637
Google documents for this body can be found at :
http://bit.ly/CCTFCEE
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1. Call To Order (Time):
2. Roll Call
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3. Review and Approval of Minutes
4. Outreach and Education Plan
5. Plan for Building Out Subgroup Preliminary Proposals
6. Future Meetings and Next Steps
7. Discussion of Fuel Shift Proposals
8. Public Questions or Comments – Up to 2 minutes per speaker
9. Next Meeting Date
10. Adjourn (Time)
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