COMMUNITY COLLABORATIVE COMMISSION
Regular MeetingMilwaukee, WI · September 2, 2020
Minutes
200 E. Wells Street
City of Milwaukee Milwaukee, Wisconsin
53202
Meeting Minutes
COMMUNITY COLLABORATIVE COMMISSION
NATHANIEL HAMILTON - CHAIR
Tim Baack, Stephen Jansen, Pamela Malone, Camille Mays,
Shawn Muhammad, Christine Neumann-Ortiz, Amy Orta, Will
Perry, Tammy Rivera, Jeff Roman, Fred Royal, Damien Smith,
Jamaal Smith, Huezong Yang, and Gina Zarcone
Staff Assistant: Linda Elmer, 414-286-2231,
lelmer@milwaukee.gov
Legislative Assistant: Dana Zelazny, 414-286-8679,
Dana.Zelazny@milwaukee.gov
Wednesday, September 2, 2020 4:30 PM City Hall, Room 303
This is a virtual meeting. If you wish to participate, please e-mail lelmer@milwaukee.gov
or call 414-286-2231.
1. Roll call.
Meeting convened: 4:33 P.M.
Members present: Camille Mays, Gina Zarcone, Jamaal Smith, Shawn Muhammad,
Damien Smith, Nate Hamilton, Tim Baack, Amy Orta, Fred Royal, Christine
Neumann-Ortiz, Pamela Malone
Members excused: Tammy Rivera, Will Perry, Steve Jansen, Jeff Roman, Huezong
Yang
2. Review and acceptance of the minutes of the August 26th meeting.
These will be reviewed and approved at the next meeting.
3. Discussion with Acting Police Chief Michael Brunson relating to implementation of the
Department of Justice recommendations and possible votes on future actions by the
Commission.
Chair Hamilton thanked both the Acting Chief and members for attending this virtual
meeting. AC Brunson is aware of the Dept. of Justice (DOJ) recommendations as he
was involved in some aspects of it and he also reviewed other documents relating to
the CCC. None of the members had been contacted and Mr. Hamilton asked who had
been contacted and felt as if the past two years' worth of work had been
unacknowledged and there should have been a joint effort in moving forward. AC
Brunson said he is in the process of looking at the different changes that have to be
made relating to SOP that overlap with the best practice recommendations and MPD
will be in compliance with "Eight Can't Wait" after September 24th. The ACLU
agreement also addressed a lot of the collaborative reforms, which has very stringent
standards to meet when doing traffic stops. The plans will be implemented over five
years. Mr. Hamilton is concerned that e-mails with comments/suggestions will be
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filtered so that all voices are not heard. The CCC is entailed to go out to the
community and collect the data on how the community feels. "ReWaukee" is an MPD
initiative to get more input from the community and the e-mail is for citizens to sign up
for the "Speak outs" and is another way for MPD to engage; it is not a sign of
disrespect to CCC. He is willing to collaborate with any entity that is working on
increasing citizen safety and to reduce police harassment and treating people with
respect.
Ms. Deborah Blanks said this group has been meeting for years to make sure that
community voices have been heard. The CCC is asking how to work with the police
dept. most effectively. She wants to ensure that the community is heard and their work
is used in the most effective manner. Mr. Fred Royal said in November 2019, the Fire
and Police Commission (FPC) directed MPD to create an SOP for
Community-Oriented Policing (COP). As of today, there have been no formal
discussion as to how the CCC and MPD will work together to create this SOP;
ReWaukee seems duplicative of what CCC has already done. CCC wants systemic
change and to capture this opportunity now so that the process isn't delayed any
further. A speaker asked who should be contacted in the department to set up a
meeting to even begin the process. As of now, Terrence Gordon and Shunta Boston
Smith will both be contact persons, as well as Inspector Willie Murphy. AC Brunson
will forward the contact information.
Ms. Camille Mays said that if the MPD wants more input from the community, then he
needs to work with the CCC who does speak for the community. AC Brunson feels
that ReWaukee isn't a duplication as CCC gathered information through the hubs and
ReWaukee is an initiative, as he previously stated. He is looking for feedback across
a broad spectrum, of both those who support and those who do not support the police.
Mr. Fred Royal said the DOJ tasked the Community Collaborative Committee with
finding solutions in areas where MPD and FPC were short in best practices. He is
concerned that ReWaukee will merely be going over the same ground the Committee
did, which wastes time. How do we co-create the SOP for COP and create a citywide
safety plan, asked Mr. Royal. AC Brunson says the department is going beyond some
of the DOJ recommendations and not all citizens participated in the hubs. Ms. Pam
Malone said that members are not the police, but they do have expertise and Mr.
Jamaal Smith said they heard from many citizens who lived in violent areas during the
hubs. He feels that ReWaukee disregards the work of the CCC and that ReWaukee
should extend the work of CCC, which this doesn't. Ms. Neumann-Ortiz said the CCC
is the product of an extensive process that has the support of the Common Council
and the FPC and this is a historic opportunity to make a difference and the CCC really
does engage the community. The CCC, per Ms. Neumann-Ortiz, is very democratic
and does represent a variety of constituents. Ms Malone wants the CCC to be an equal
partner and not cast off into the corner. AC Brunson estimated that changes are
implemented almost immediately once the SOP language is agreed upon or within a
month, depending on what the changes relate to, such as use of force policies. Mr.
Royal asked how well MPD is utilizing citizen contact cards; AC Brunson wasn't sure
and the CGI audits of the accuracy and validity of the stops and frisks are being done.
Part of the CCC charge is if the lawsuit requirements are being met and AC Brunson
will check on what data is available on the distribution of contact cards.
Mr. Hamilton asked if the CCC can meet with the department within the next week to
co-create the COP SOP. Feedback received via ReWaukee will be shared. Mr.
Hamilton said defunding the police has its own area of concern and that isn't a concern
of the CCC; the CCC is working on changing the practices and policies of MPD to
make MPD actions more acceptable to the community. Ms. Malone said some people
want some funds to be diverted from the police department, but not defunding the
police. Ms. Malone did note that AC Brunson does have her support as she has seen
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no reason not to support him. Ms. Camille Mays said it would be helpful if there are
any media releases or press conferences, that the CCC should be involved so the
community can trust the process. Ms. Neumann-Ortiz supported that idea and that
would show good leadership and build trust.
Mr. Hamilton would also like to have the mayors on these calls so we all work together,
which builds trust and transparency. Ms. Elmer will send a contact list to AC Brunson.
Ald. Hamilton said that having AC Brunson come before the CCC is very important.
ReWaukee is an internal program while the CCC is a sanctioned city entity that has to
exist due to the ACLU settlement.
4. Discussion with Acting Police Chief Michael Brunson relating to Commission and
community involvement in community oriented policing (COP) and possible votes on future
actions by the Commission.
This was discussed as part of item #3.
5. Formation of Executive Committee membership.
Mr. Hamilton said that committees will be set up and he hopes members will serve on
at least one committe. The next meeting we will be establishing committees and who
will be serving on those. Ms. Elmer will get from members what committees there will
be. He just wants to make sure that everyone's voice is heard within this commission.
6. Set next meeting date and agenda.
200315 Communication relating to the 2020 activities of the Community
Collaborative Commission.
Sponsors: THE CHAIR
Meeting adjourned: 5:41 P.M.
Linda M. Elmer
Staff Assistant
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Meeting Agenda
COMMUNITY COLLABORATIVE COMMISSION
NATHANIEL HAMILTON - CHAIR
Tim Baack, Stephen Jansen, Pamela Malone, Camille Mays,
Shawn Muhammad, Christine Neumann-Ortiz, Amy Orta, Will
Perry, Tammy Rivera, Jeff Roman, Fred Royal, Damien Smith,
Jamaal Smith, Huezong Yang, and Gina Zarcone
Staff Assistant: Linda Elmer, 414-286-2231,
lelmer@milwaukee.gov
Legislative Assistant: Dana Zelazny, 414-286-8679,
Dana.Zelazny@milwaukee.gov
Wednesday, September 2, 2020 4:30 PM City Hall, Room 303
This is a virtual meeting. If you wish to participate, please e-mail lelmer@milwaukee.gov
or call 414-286-2231.
1. Roll call.
2. Review and acceptance of the minutes of the August 26th meeting.
3. Discussion with Acting Police Chief Michael Brunson relating to implementation of the
Department of Justice recommendations and possible votes on future actions by the
Commission.
4. Discussion with Acting Police Chief Michael Brunson relating to Commission and
community involvement in community oriented policing (COP) and possible votes on future
actions by the Commission.
5. Formation of Executive Committee membership.
6. Set next meeting date and agenda.
200315 Communication relating to the 2020 activities of the Community
Collaborative Commission.
Sponsors: THE CHAIR
---Documents relating to the Commission may be found in this file.
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