ETHICS BOARD INVESTIGATION COMMITTEE
Regular MeetingMilwaukee, WI · February 9, 2021
Minutes
200 E. Wells Street
City of Milwaukee Milwaukee, Wisconsin
53202
Meeting Minutes
ETHICS BOARD INVESTIGATION COMMITTEE
PATRICIA HINTZ, CHAIR,
Bradley Kalscheur, Vice-Chair
Michael Kruse, Whitney Maus, Clarence Nicholas, Kathleen
Johnson, and Emily Mueller
Staff Assistant, Molly Kuether-Steele, 286-2775
Fax: 286-3456, molly.kuether-steele@milwaukee.gov
Legislative Liaison, Alex Highley, 286-8661,
Alex.Highley@milwaukee.gov
Tuesday, February 9, 2021 2:00 PM Virtual Meeting
Call in Number:+1 (646) 749-3112 Access Code: 226-810-421
1. Roll call and approval of the minutes from the previous meeting.
The meeting convened at 2:03 PM
Individuals also present:
ACA Peter Block - CAO
Atty. Kimberly Walker - CAO
Mr. Nicholas moved approval of the minutes, seconded by Ms. Maus. There were no
objections.
Present: 6 - Hintz, Kalscheur, Kruse, Maus, Nicholas, Johnson
Excused: 1 - Mueller
2. Interviews of Candidates for Investigator
The Committee interviewed Patrice Malone and Atty. Walter Zimmerman.
3. Discussion and Possible Vote on Investigator Candidates
The Chair stated that Mr. Goodrich has a lot of different experience is various legal
matters and investigations. She stated that Ms. Malone has relevant experience with
documenting facts and investigations. She added that Atty. Zimmerman has worked
for large firms. She stated that she wants to have someone who can commit the time
to get this started and finished. Mr. Kalscheur stated he likes Atty. Goodrich's ethics
experience and he's concerned about Ms. Malone working for someone else so she
may not have the time flexibility. Mr. Kruse stated Atty. Goodrich is the right fit in many
areas. Mr. Nicholas stated he likes Atty. Goodrich's extensive investigatory experience.
Ms. Johnson moved to retain Atty. Avery Goodrich as the investigator, seconded by
Mr. Nicholas. There were no objections.
4. Communication regarding the subpoena for Commissioner DeVougas' financial records.
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Atty. Block stated he attempted to serve Commissioner DeVougas with the subpoenas
from the Board multiple times. He added that he has affidavits of non-service from the
process server. He stated that he has contacted Commissioner DeVougas' attorney
with no response. The Chair stated that she's disappointed that Commissioner
DeVougas is being uncooperative. She added that she recommends leaving the
subpoena at his home or publishing it. Mr. Kalscheur stated they should serve the
attorney and by publication.
5. Set next meeting date(s).
The Chair stated Ms. Kuether-Steele would be contacting members regarding
availability.
Ms. Johnson moved to adjourn, seconded by Mr. Nicholas.
The meeting adjourned at 3:33 PM
Molly Kuether-Steele
Staff Assistant
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Agenda
200 E. Wells Street
City of Milwaukee Milwaukee, Wisconsin
53202
Meeting Agenda
ETHICS BOARD INVESTIGATION COMMITTEE
PATRICIA HINTZ, CHAIR,
Bradley Kalscheur, Vice-Chair
Michael Kruse, Whitney Maus, Clarence Nicholas, Kathleen
Johnson, and Emily Mueller
Staff Assistant, Molly Kuether-Steele, 286-2775
Fax: 286-3456, molly.kuether-steele@milwaukee.gov
Legislative Liaison, Alex Highley, 286-8661,
Alex.Highley@milwaukee.gov
Tuesday, February 9, 2021 2:00 PM Virtual Meeting
Call in Number:+1 (646) 749-3112 Access Code: 226-810-421
1. Roll call and approval of the minutes from the previous meeting.
2. Interviews of Candidates for Investigator
-Patrice Malone
-Walter Zimmerman
3. Discussion and Possible Vote on Investigator Candidates
4. Communication regarding the subpoena for Commissioner DeVougas' financial records.
5. Set next meeting date(s).
As the number of members of the Ethics Board Investigation Committee constitutes a quorum of the full Ethics
Board, this meeting also simultaneously constitutes a meeting of the full Ethics Board. No actions, other than
the actions identified in the above notice will be taken by the full Ethics Board, other than information gathering.
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NOTE: a) Members of the Common Council, and members of its Standing Committees who are not
members of this Committee, may attend this meeting to participate or to gather information. Therefore, notice
is given that this meeting may constitute a meeting of the Common Council or any of its Standing Committees,
and must be noticed as such, although they will not take any formal action at this meeting. Times for specific
agenda items are estimations. If items cannot be heard at their specified times, they will be heard as soon as
practicable thereafter.
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Council Services Division ADA Coordinator at 286-2998, (FAX)286-3456, (TDD)286-2025 or by writing
to the Coordinator at Room 205, City Hall, 200 E. Wells Street, Milwaukee, WI 53202.
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