FIRE AND POLICE COMMISSION
Regular MeetingMilwaukee, WI · October 15, 2020
Minutes
200 E. Wells Street
City of Milwaukee Milwaukee, Wisconsin
53202
Meeting Minutes - Final
FIRE AND POLICE COMMISSION
Nelson Soler – Chair
Angela McKenzie,– Vice-Chair
Commissioners Ann Wilson, Fred Crouther, Steven DeVougas,
Everett Cocroft,
Program Assistant I: Elizabeth Moore (414) 286-5185
Program Assistant I: Jasmine Agrait (414) 286-5047
Fax: (414) 286-5050, Email: fpc@milwaukee.gov
Thursday, October 15, 2020 5:30 PM City Hall, Room 301-B
Special Meeting
This is a virtual meeting that will be conducted via GoToWebinar. Those wishing to view the
proceedings are encouraged to do so at http://city.milwaukee.gov/citychannel and use Live
Stream 1.
Present: 7 - McKenzie, Cocroft, Crouther, Soler, Robakowski, DeVougas, Wilson
Those wishing to speak should register to do so at:
https://attendee.gotowebinar.com/register/1204608857010575627
This meeting commenced at 5:36p.m.
The Fire & Police Commission will meet on the following items:
1. Public Comment
Comment(s) by the Public
Paul Mozina
The Chair wanted to clarify the items on the agenda specifically, the minutes are not
published on Legistar.
The Executive Director clarified that the minutes are private facing for the
commissioners and do not become public until the board approves them. Once the
board approves, the minutes are uploaded after the meeting in case the board has any
amendments during the meeting.
Information Only
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2. FPC20345 Communication regarding Fire Dispatcher termination.
This Fire and Police Communication was PLACED ON FILE
3. FPC20349 Communication regarding the modification of disciplinary action for
Police Officer (4 positions)
This Fire and Police Communication was PLACED ON FILE
4. FPC20348 Communication regarding the suspension of Police Officer
This Fire and Police Communication was PLACED ON FILE
Consent Agenda
5. FPC20350 Communication regarding commendations for Milwaukee Fire
Department cadets who assisted with COVID-19 mitigation
This Fire and Police Communication was PLACED ON FILE
6. FPC20351 Resolution to approve September 3, September 24, October 1 and
October 8, 2020 meeting minutes
Commissioner Angela McKenzie requested for it to be noted on the record her
opposition to any type of amendments when it comes to the process that the
commission had implemented for chief.
This Fire And Police Resolution was ADOPTED
Examinations
7. FPC20352 Resolution to approve the Fire Cadet Job Announcement
This Fire And Police Resolution was ADOPTED
Aye: 6- McKenzie, Cocroft, Crouther, Soler, Robakowski, and DeVougas
No: 0
Excused: 1- Wilson
New Business
8. FPC20340 Communication from FPC Independent Investigator regarding the
completed PSSI Investigation
Commissioner Raymond Robakowski has asked that the City Attorney weigh in on this
matter.
This Fire and Police Communication was PLACED ON FILE
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Present: 7 - McKenzie, Cocroft, Crouther, Soler, Robakowski, DeVougas, Wilson
9. FPC20353 Communication about the Chief of Police process as it relates to
scheduling specific individual interviews with each of the six finalists
The Executive Director notified the Chair that Commissioner Steven DeVougas had to
drop off from the call but he would make whatever date the commissioners decide
would work.
Commissioner Angela McKenzie had no preference at this time and had to drop off
from the call so, she will make herself available if necessary once the decision is
made.
The commission will hold the interviews of the 6 finalists on Monday October 19th,
2020. The duration of the interviews will be between 30 min/half hour to 45 minutes.
Each commissioner will come up with at least 2 questions. Commissioner Fred
Crouther accepted two of the questions from Commissioner Everett Cocroft.
This process will allow staff to begin arranging for the technology that will be used to
hold these interviews as well as for the order of the candidates.
The interviews will be noticed for Monday October 19th at 5:00PM Executive Session.
The meeting will start in open and take a motion to go into closed session. This
meeting will be virtual.
Commissioner Everett Cocroft made the suggestion to publish the process for Monday
either on the website or a press release to provide clarity the public.The Chair agreed
that a press release is done for the process on Monday based on the meeting
tonight.The Executive Director will draft and send to commissioners for approval before
sending out the press release.
The Chair made a final request to all commissioners to ensure that they have their web
cameras on their devices turned on so that the candidates can see who they are and
meet them for the interviews.
This Fire and Police Communication was PLACED ON FILE
Fire Department
10. FPC20357 Resolution relating to the appointment to Fire Cadet (25 positions)
A motion was made by Everett Cocroft, seconded by Steven DeVougas, that
this Fire And Police Resolution be ADOPTED. This motion PREVAILED by the
following vote:
Aye: 7- McKenzie, Cocroft, Crouther, Soler, Robakowski, DeVougas, and Wilson
No: 0
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11. FPC20358 Resolution relating to the appointment to Contingent Fire Cadet (26
positions)
A motion was made by Raymond Robakowski, seconded by Fred Crouther,
that this Fire And Police Resolution be ADOPTED. This motion PREVAILED by
the following vote:
Aye: 7- McKenzie, Cocroft, Crouther, Soler, Robakowski, DeVougas, and Wilson
No: 0
Police Department
12. FPC20359 Resolution to promote to the position of Detective (24 positions)
The Executive Director clarified for the record that she had read Item 12 FPC20358
Resolution to promote to the position of Detective inappropriately. The agenda lists 24
positions but the Police Department had rescinded 1 of those positions so it should be
23 positions that were approved.
A motion was made by Fred Crouther, seconded by Raymond Robakowski,
that this Fire And Police Resolution be ADOPTED. This motion PREVAILED by
the following vote:
Aye: 7- McKenzie, Cocroft, Crouther, Soler, Robakowski, DeVougas, and Wilson
No: 0
13. FPC20361 Resolution to promote to the position of Sergeant (19 positions)
A motion was made by Fred Crouther, seconded by Everett Cocroft, that this
Fire And Police Resolution be ADOPTED. This motion PREVAILED by the
following vote:
Aye: 7- McKenzie, Cocroft, Crouther, Soler, Robakowski, DeVougas, and Wilson
No: 0
14. FPC20360 Resolution to promote to the position of Lieutenant (20 positions)
A motion was made by Raymond Robakowski, seconded by Angela McKenzie
and Fred Crouther, that this Fire And Police Resolution be ADOPTED. This
motion PREVAILED by the following vote:
Aye: 6- McKenzie, Cocroft, Crouther, Soler, Robakowski, and Wilson
No: 0
Excused: 1- DeVougas
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15. FPC20362 Resolution to hold the promotion to the position of Detective in abeyance
(2 positions)
A motion was made by Raymond Robakowski, seconded by Everett Cocroft,
that this Fire And Police Resolution be ADOPTED. This motion PREVAILED by
the following vote:
Aye: 6- McKenzie, Cocroft, Crouther, Soler, Robakowski, and Wilson
No: 0
Excused: 1- DeVougas
Motion to Adjourn
A motion was made by Commissioner Raymond Robakowski that this meeting be
ADJOURNED.
A roll call vote was taken:
Commissioner Everett Cocroft - Aye
Commissioner Fred Crouther - Aye
Commissioner Anna Wilson - Aye
Chair - Aye
Commissioner Steven DeVougas - Excused
Commissioner Angela McKenzie - Excused
This meeting adjourned at 6:59p.m.
The Board may receive a motion to convene in closed session in City Hall, room 301-B, 200 East Wells Street, to consider the
disciplinary communication listed above, or to consider the above promotion or appointment resolutions, pursuant to Section
19.85(1)(b), Wis. Stat. for the purpose of considering information pertaining to the dismissal, demotion, licensing or discipline of
any public employee, and pursuant to Section 19.85(1)(c), Wis. Stat. to consider employment, promotion, compensation or
performance evaluation data of any public employee over which the governmental body has jurisdiction or exercises
responsibility, and to the extent applicable, pursuant to Section 19.85 (1)(f), Wis. Stat. to consider financial, medical, social or
personal histories of specific candidates for employment which, if discussed in public, would be likely to have a substantial
adverse effect upon the reputation of any person referred to in such histories, and pursuant to Section 19.85 (1) (g) Wis.
Stats. to confer with a representative of the City Attorney's Office who will render oral or written advice concerning strategy
to be adopted by the Board with respect to litigation in which it is or is likely to become involved. The Board may then
reconvene in open session concerning any such item following the closed session.
Upon reasonable notice, efforts will be made to accommodate the needs of persons with disabilities through sign language
interpreters or auxiliary aids. For additional information or to request this service, contact the Fire and Police Commission ADA
Coordinator at 414-286-5072, 414-286-5050 (fax), 414-286-2960 (TDD), or by writing to the Coordinator at Fire and Police
Commission, Milwaukee City Hall, Room 706A, 200 East Wells Street, Milwaukee WI 53202.
This notice is being made pursuant to Section 19.84 (3) Wis. Stats., "Public Notice of every meeting...shall be given at least 24
hours prior to the commencement of such meeting unless for good cause such notice is impossible or impractical, in which
case shorter notice may be given, but in no case may the notice be provided less than two hours in advance of the meeting."
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Agenda
200 E. Wells Street
City of Milwaukee Milwaukee, Wisconsin
53202
Meeting Agenda - Final
FIRE AND POLICE COMMISSION
Griselda Aldrete – Executive Director
Nelson Soler – Chair
Angela McKenzie,– Vice-Chair
Commissioners Ann Wilson, Fred Crouther, Steven DeVougas,
Everett Cocroft, and Raymond Robakowski
Program Assistant I: Elizabeth Moore (414) 286-5185
Program Assistant I: Jasmine Agrait (414) 286-5047
Fax: (414) 286-5050, Email: fpc@milwaukee.gov
Thursday, October 15, 2020 5:30 PM City Hall, Room 301-B
Special Meeting
This is a virtual meeting that will be conducted via GoToWebinar. Those wishing to view the
proceedings are encouraged to do so at http://city.milwaukee.gov/citychannel and use Live Stream 1.
Those wishing to speak should register to do so at:
https://attendee.gotowebinar.com/register/1204608857010575627
The Fire & Police Commission will meet on the following items:
1. Public Comment
Comment(s) by the Public
Information Only
2. FPC20345 Communication regarding Fire Dispatcher termination.
3. FPC20349 Communication regarding the modification of disciplinary action for Police
Officer (4 positions)
4. FPC20348 Communication regarding the suspension of Police Officer
Consent Agenda
5. FPC20350 Communication regarding commendations for Milwaukee Fire Department
cadets who assisted with COVID-19 mitigation
6. FPC20351 Resolution to approve September 3, September 24, October 1 and
October 8, 2020 meeting minutes
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Examinations
7. FPC20352 Resolution to approve the Fire Cadet Job Announcement
New Business
8. FPC20340 Communication from FPC Independent Investigator regarding the
completed PSSI Investigation
9. FPC20353 Communication about the Chief of Police process as it relates to
scheduling specific individual interviews with each of the six finalists
Fire Department
10. FPC20357 Resolution relating to the appointment to Fire Cadet (25 positions)
11. FPC20358 Resolution relating to the appointment to Contingent Fire Cadet (26
positions)
Police Department
12. FPC20359 Resolution to promote to the position of Detective (24 positions)
13. FPC20361 Resolution to promote to the position of Sergeant (19 positions)
14. FPC20360 Resolution to promote to the position of Lieutenant (20 positions)
15. FPC20362 Resolution to hold the promotion to the position of Detective in abeyance
(2 positions)
Motion to Adjourn
The Board may receive a motion to convene in closed session in City Hall, room 301-B, 200 East Wells Street, to consider the disciplinary
communication listed above, or to consider the above promotion or appointment resolutions, pursuant to Section 19.85(1)(b), Wis. Stat. for
the purpose of considering information pertaining to the dismissal, demotion, licensing or discipline of any public employee, and pursuant to
Section 19.85(1)(c), Wis. Stat. to consider employment, promotion, compensation or performance evaluation data of any public employee
over which the governmental body has jurisdiction or exercises responsibility, and to the extent applicable, pursuant to Section 19.85 (1)
(f), Wis. Stat. to consider financial, medical, social or personal histories of specific candidates for employment which, if discussed in
public, would be likely to have a substantial adverse effect upon the reputation of any person referred to in such histories, and pursuant
to Section 19.85 (1) (g) Wis. Stats. to confer with a representative of the City Attorney's Office who will render oral or written advice
concerning strategy to be adopted by the Board with respect to litigation in which it is or is likely to become involved. The Board may then
reconvene in open session concerning any such item following the closed session.
Upon reasonable notice, efforts will be made to accommodate the needs of persons with disabilities through sign language interpreters or
auxiliary aids. For additional information or to request this service, contact the Fire and Police Commission ADA Coordinator at
414-286-5072, 414-286-5050 (fax), 414-286-2960 (TDD), or by writing to the Coordinator at Fire and Police Commission, Milwaukee City
Hall, Room 706A, 200 East Wells Street, Milwaukee WI 53202.
This notice is being made pursuant to Section 19.84 (3) Wis. Stats., "Public Notice of every meeting...shall be given at least 24 hours prior
to the commencement of such meeting unless for good cause such notice is impossible or impractical, in which case shorter notice may
be given, but in no case may the notice be provided less than two hours in advance of the meeting."
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