HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION
Regular MeetingMilwaukee, WI · January 14, 2019
Minutes
200 E. Wells Street
City of Milwaukee Milwaukee, Wisconsin
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Meeting Minutes
HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION
Ald. Robert Bauman, CHAIR
Marion Clendenen-Acosta, Vice Chair
Ann Pieper Eisenbrown, Matt Jarosz, Patricia Keating Kahn,
and Sally Peltz
Staff Assistant, Linda Elmer, 286-2231, Fax: 286-3456,
lelmer@milwaukee.gov
Senior Planner: Carlen Hatala, 286-5722,
chatal@milwaukee.gov
Senior Planner: Tim Askin, 286-5712,
tim.askin@milwaukee.gov
Legislative Liaison, Dana Zelazny, 286-8679,
dana.zelazny@milwaukee.gov
Monday, January 14, 2019 3:00 PM City Hall, Room 301-B
Meeting convened: 3:06 P.M.
Present: 5 - Pieper Eisenbrown, Jarosz, Bauman, Keating Kahn, Peltz
Excused: 1 - Clendenen-Acosta
1. 161667 Resolution relating to a Certificate of Appropriateness for a mothball
certificate for 1134 W. Historic Mitchell Street, known as the Modjeska
Theater, in the Mitchell Street Historic District for Modjeska Theater
Project, LLC.
Sponsors: THE CHAIR
Ms. Carlen Hatala said this is before the Commission again as the owner was getting
ready to send out RFPs and wanted to be able to provide evidence that progress had
been made. The mothball certificate has been in effect since 2016.
Tom Vavra and John Kesselman - board members for the Modjeska Theater.
Mr. Kesselman said a tenant who did $30,000 worth of work went bust. They have
about 15 people who are interested in responding to an RFP, which is currently a draft
and not final so not public yet. He did bring a few copies if HPC members wanted to
look through it. It will go online on the 21st and be public then. Their goal isn't to own
the property, but want the best operator for this site.
Ald. Jose Perez - he would ask the commission to deny the mothball so action will
occur at this site and he thinks they have had plenty of time to move forward. He
doesn't object if this is held until the next meeting.
Mr. Kesselman said the main cost is about $150,000 for required window work. They
aren't trying to hold onto the building, but get a good owner in there.
Ms. Keating Kahn moved to hold for a month and then schedule for Feb. 4th
A motion was made by Patricia Keating Kahn, seconded by Ann Pieper
Eisenbrown, that this Resolution be HELD IN COMMITTEE. This motion
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PREVAILED by the following vote:
Aye: 5- Bauman, Pieper Eisenbrown, Jarosz, Keating Kahn, and Peltz
No: 0
Excused: 2- VACANCY, and Clendenen-Acosta
2. 180975 Resolution relating to a Certificate of Appropriateness for demolishing
and reconstructing the Lake Park rustic wooden bridge at 3233 E.
Kenwood Boulevard (Lake Park), in the North Point North Historic District
for Milwaukee County and Lake Park Friends.
Sponsors: THE CHAIR
Mr. Tim Askin said that the application was filed by the Parks Director and this matter
was discussed preliminarily a few cycles ago and the proposal is to demolish one
bridge, which may have been built in the 1930s and reconstructed in the 1970s. There
are about 12 rustic bridges in the park and this one is in a condemnable state, per the
county. The bridge has been closed to the public since 2016. It serves as part of the
original circulation pattern in the park.
Sarah Tousson - Milwaukee County Parks - requesting permission to demolish the
bridge and will come before the Commission for the replacement bridge.
Jennifer Meyer - Public Works Committee for the Lake Park Friends (LPF) - the
fundraising efforts have improved and they are confident they have or will get the
funding. They are going to get design submittals and then will work on construction.
Ms. Peltz would like to have a signed contract between both parties (county parks and
Lake Park Friends). LPF will provide copies of any documents between the two
parties. Ms. Pieper Eisenbrown would not like to approve any demolition prior to
knowing what is going to be constructed.
Both the Parks Dept. and LPF are concerned about the safety of people who illegally
trespass on the bridge as well as its location close to a playground and debris falling
from the bridge. LPF is amenable to saving any wood that might be salvagable.
The demolition is allowed, but new construction will need to be approved by the
Commission.
A motion was made by Matt Jarosz, seconded by Sally Peltz, that this
Resolution be ADOPTED. This motion PREVAILED by the following vote:
Aye: 5- Bauman, Pieper Eisenbrown, Jarosz, Keating Kahn, and Peltz
No: 0
Excused: 2- VACANCY, and Clendenen-Acosta
3. 181173 Resolution relating to a Certificate of Appropriateness for window
replacement and general rehabilitation at 2803 E. Bradford Avenue, in
the North Point North Historic District, for Lisa Groskopf-Gleason.
Sponsors: THE CHAIR
All requested work was approved last cycle and Ms. Hatala and Mr. Askin toured the
house and agree with the applicant that the windows cannot be salvaged and are oddly
constructed and are from different eras. The windows are a mishmash and they are not
convinced the majority of the windows are original.
Staff recommends approval with one suggestion of 6 over 1 for the dormer windows.
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A motion was made by Sally Peltz, seconded by Matt Jarosz, that this
Resolution be ADOPTED. This motion PREVAILED by the following vote:
Aye: 5- Bauman, Pieper Eisenbrown, Jarosz, Keating Kahn, and Peltz
No: 0
Excused: 2- VACANCY, and Clendenen-Acosta
4. 181146 Resolution relating to the Permanent Historic Designation of Washington
Park at 4301 West Lloyd Street in the 15th Ald. District.
Sponsors: THE CHAIR
Ms. Hatala had given a presentation on the history of the park at the December
meeting, a public hearing was held and the Urban Ecology Center requested a
postponement of the actual vote to discuss if they felt comfortable with the
designation. Ms. Hatala met with Urban Ecology staff and the nominator and the
conclusion is they would like to work collectively to make the guidelines clearer. The
consensus appears to be to work more on this between staff, the Center and the
nominator. All parties are amenable to holding this.
A motion was made by Patricia Keating Kahn, seconded by Ann Pieper
Eisenbrown, that this Resolution be HELD IN COMMITTEE. This motion
PREVAILED by the following vote:
Aye: 5- Bauman, Pieper Eisenbrown, Jarosz, Keating Kahn, and Peltz
No: 0
Excused: 2- VACANCY, and Clendenen-Acosta
5. 180798 Resolution relating to a Certificate of Appropriateness for the erection of
a new nine-story [amended to an eleven-story on 12/19] commercial
building at 511 N. Broadway (Parcel 3920656000), in the East Side
Commercial Historic District, for J. Jeffers & Co.
Sponsors: THE CHAIR
Mr. Tim Askin said this was before the Commission before, but is back with a change
of materials and number of floors. The current project is 11 stories, from 9, for an
additional height of 10 feet (the floor heights were lowered). Floors 1-5 will be parking
with no car shadows visible from any public view. The upper floors will be offices. The
concerns of the Commission from October have been addressed (more cohesion on
the west wall, precast slab on an alley elevation, picked stone approved by the
Commission, no HVAC penentrations on the front-facing facades, etc). The height will
be 129 feet.
Staff thinks the height pushes the outer limits of acceptability and the corner section
has the apperance of a separate building. Staff would like the base level to be the
matching granite. Mr. Askin feels a 10-story building would be adequate.
Mr. Jarosz feels the massing is okay and follows the Third Ward massing guidelines.
Mr. Jeffers said that half of the tenants will be a law firm. One additional floor is for
office space and one for parking.
Mr. Jarosz would like to see more street activation and a presentation in the future in
regards to the lighting and the materials. Mr. Jeffers said they do want to do a fair
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amount of streetscaping, although many of the streets have hollow vaults under them
and they cannot support street trees.
Approve with conditions set by staff relating to the granite base, and future updates on
lighting, signage and street activation.
A motion was made by Sally Peltz, seconded by Matt Jarosz, that this
Resolution be ADOPTED. This motion PREVAILED by the following vote:
Aye: 5- Bauman, Pieper Eisenbrown, Jarosz, Keating Kahn, and Peltz
No: 0
Excused: 2- VACANCY, and Clendenen-Acosta
6. 181247 Resolution relating to a Certificate of Appropriateness for the installation
of railings along the front paths at 2210 - 2212 N. Lake Drive, in the North
Point South Historic District, for Jagpal Waraich.
Sponsors: THE CHAIR
Mr. Tim Askin said that three railings in front were installed without a certificate.
Mr. Jarosz moved to deny.
A motion was made by Matt Jarosz, seconded by Ann Pieper Eisenbrown, that
this Resolution be RECOMMENDED FOR PLACING ON FILE. This motion
PREVAILED by the following vote:
Aye: 5- Bauman, Pieper Eisenbrown, Jarosz, Keating Kahn, and Peltz
No: 0
Excused: 2- VACANCY, and Clendenen-Acosta
7. 180407 Resolution relating to a Certificate of Appropriateness for replacement of
windows and for mothball status at 1688 - 1690 N. Franklin Place in the
Brady Street Historic District for Iliya Torbica of Shepards LLC.
Sponsors: THE CHAIR
Mr. Tim Askin said that as of September the owner has begun substantial work on the
windows and the work is being done in an appropriate manner. Staff recommends a
standard six month extension.
A motion was made by Patricia Keating Kahn, seconded by Sally Peltz, that
this Resolution be ADOPTED. This motion PREVAILED by the following vote:
Aye: 5- Bauman, Pieper Eisenbrown, Jarosz, Keating Kahn, and Peltz
No: 0
Excused: 2- VACANCY, and Clendenen-Acosta
8. 181432 Resolution relating to a Certificate of Appropriateness for new signage at
618 N. Water Street in the East Side Commercial District Historic District
Elmnt Lounge and Toon City, Inc.
Sponsors: THE CHAIR
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Mr. Tim Askin said that there is a proposal for a new sign and staff has asked for
more information. The background will be plywood with a pattern on it. The applicant
is leasing the first floor and is not the building owner. It will be operated as a
lounge/sports bar and the first floor windows are clear, not tinted.
Mr. Jarosz moved, contingent on staff review. Mr. Askin would like feedback from the
Commission on the background pattern of the sign.
A motion was made by Matt Jarosz, seconded by Ann Pieper Eisenbrown, that
this Resolution be ADOPTED. This motion PREVAILED by the following vote:
Aye: 5- Bauman, Pieper Eisenbrown, Jarosz, Keating Kahn, and Peltz
No: 0
Excused: 2- VACANCY, and Clendenen-Acosta
9. 181434 Resolution relating to a Certificate of Appropriateness for a projecting
sign at 1044 N. Old World 3rd Street in the Old World 3rd Street District
Historic District for Jake Dehne of RWB.
Sponsors: THE CHAIR
Mr. Tim Askin said that there is now a proposed wall sign and a projecting sign. The
sign is round and internally lit. They are proposing a transom window above the door
and a two-sided projecting sign to the side of the door. If the blue section were a hard
acrylic, that would be approvable for one of the signs, but not both; staff is more
inclined to approve the blue as part of the transom sign and with the condition it be
opaque. Staff recommends denial of the projecting sign.
Rob Culp - National Sign and Design - the grid pattern kind-of matches Usinger's
gates, which has no glass. The building did originally have a transom window.
Grant transom sign with an opaque blue and deny the projecting sign.
A motion was made by Matt Jarosz, seconded by Ann Pieper Eisenbrown, that
this Resolution be ADOPTED. This motion PREVAILED by the following vote:
Aye: 5- Bauman, Pieper Eisenbrown, Jarosz, Keating Kahn, and Peltz
No: 0
Excused: 2- VACANCY, and Clendenen-Acosta
The following files represent staff approved Certificates of Appropriateness:
10. 181206 Resolution relating to a Certificate of Appropriateness for roof repairs on
the church and work on window wells on the church and the caretaker’s
house at 804 - 816 W. Vliet Street, St. John’s Evangelical Lutheran
Church Complex, an individually designated property, for St. John’s
Evangelical Lutheran Church.
Sponsors: THE CHAIR
A motion was made by Ann Pieper Eisenbrown, seconded by Matt Jarosz, that
this Resolution be ADOPTED. This motion PREVAILED by the following vote:
Aye: 5- Pieper Eisenbrown, Jarosz, Bauman, Keating Kahn, and Peltz
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No: 0
Excused: 1- Clendenen-Acosta
11. 181338 Resolution relating to a Certificate of Appropriateness for the installation
of three new awnings at 801-809 N. Cass Street in the Cass Wells
Historic District for Buckley’s Restaurant and Bar LLC.
Sponsors: THE CHAIR
A motion was made by Ann Pieper Eisenbrown, seconded by Matt Jarosz, that
this Resolution be ADOPTED. This motion PREVAILED by the following vote:
Aye: 5- Pieper Eisenbrown, Jarosz, Bauman, Keating Kahn, and Peltz
No: 0
Excused: 1- Clendenen-Acosta
12. 181339 Resolution relating to a Certificate of Appropriateness for the installation
of signs for the business TRIO at 1025 North Old World Third Street in the
Old World Third Street Historic District for Evolution Real Estate LLC.
Sponsors: THE CHAIR
A motion was made by Ann Pieper Eisenbrown, seconded by Matt Jarosz, that
this Resolution be ADOPTED. This motion PREVAILED by the following vote:
Aye: 5- Pieper Eisenbrown, Jarosz, Bauman, Keating Kahn, and Peltz
No: 0
Excused: 1- Clendenen-Acosta
13. 180815 Resolution relating to a Certificate of Appropriateness for storefront
alterations at 2632 N. Downer Avenue, in the Downer Avenue Historic
District, for Alben LLC dba Breadsmith.
Sponsors: THE CHAIR
A motion was made by Ann Pieper Eisenbrown, seconded by Matt Jarosz, that
this Resolution be ADOPTED. This motion PREVAILED by the following vote:
Aye: 5- Pieper Eisenbrown, Jarosz, Bauman, Keating Kahn, and Peltz
No: 0
Excused: 1- Clendenen-Acosta
14. 181412 Resolution relating to a Certificate of Appropriateness for a new Mad
Over Vape sign at 1229 East Brady Street in the Brady Street Historic
District for 1231 Brady LLC.
Sponsors: THE CHAIR
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A motion was made by Ann Pieper Eisenbrown, seconded by Matt Jarosz, that
this Resolution be ADOPTED. This motion PREVAILED by the following vote:
Aye: 5- Pieper Eisenbrown, Jarosz, Bauman, Keating Kahn, and Peltz
No: 0
Excused: 1- Clendenen-Acosta
15. 181441 Resolution relating to a Certificate of Appropriateness for the installation
of HVAC equipment at 217 - 219 S. 2nd Street in the South 2nd Street
Historic District for Lloyd Parks.
Sponsors: THE CHAIR
A motion was made by Ann Pieper Eisenbrown, seconded by Matt Jarosz, that
this Resolution be ADOPTED. This motion PREVAILED by the following vote:
Aye: 5- Pieper Eisenbrown, Jarosz, Bauman, Keating Kahn, and Peltz
No: 0
Excused: 1- Clendenen-Acosta
16. Review and approval of the minutes from the December 3rd meeting.
Ms. Peltz moved, seconded by Ms. Pieper Eisenbrown, for approval of the minutes.
There were no objections.
17. Election of a vice chair.
Mr. Jarosz moved to hold to the next meeting.
18. Review and approval of the 2018 annual report.
Ms. Peltz moved, seconded by Ms. Pieper Eisenbrown, for approval of the 2108 annual
report. There were no objections.
19. Updates and announcements.
Ms. Carlen Hatala encouraged members to think of nominations for the Cream of the
Cream City award. Ms. Hatala will send members the application form.
Meeting adjourned: 4:43 P.M.
Linda M. Elmer
Staff Assistant
This meeting can be viewed in its entirety through the City's Legislative Research
Center at http://milwaukee.legistar.com/calendar.
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200 E. Wells Street
City of Milwaukee Milwaukee, Wisconsin
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Meeting Agenda
HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION
Ald. Robert Bauman, CHAIR
Marion Clendenen-Acosta, Vice Chair
Ann Pieper Eisenbrown, Matt Jarosz, Patricia Keating Kahn, and
Sally Peltz
Staff Assistant, Linda Elmer, 286-2231, Fax: 286-3456,
lelmer@milwaukee.gov
Senior Planner: Carlen Hatala, 286-5722, chatal@milwaukee.gov
Senior Planner: Tim Askin, 286-5712, tim.askin@milwaukee.gov
Legislative Liaison, Dana Zelazny, 286-8679,
dana.zelazny@milwaukee.gov
Monday, January 14, 2019 3:00 PM City Hall, Room 301-B
1. 161667 Resolution relating to a Certificate of Appropriateness for a mothball
certificate for 1134 W. Historic Mitchell Street, known as the Modjeska
Theater, in the Mitchell Street Historic District for Modjeska Theater
Project, LLC.
Sponsors: THE CHAIR
2. 180975 Resolution relating to a Certificate of Appropriateness for demolishing and
reconstructing the Lake Park rustic wooden bridge at 3233 E. Kenwood
Boulevard (Lake Park), in the North Point North Historic District for
Milwaukee County and Lake Park Friends.
Sponsors: THE CHAIR
3. 181173 Resolution relating to a Certificate of Appropriateness for window
replacement and general rehabilitation at 2803 E. Bradford Avenue, in the
North Point North Historic District, for Lisa Groskopf-Gleason.
Sponsors: THE CHAIR
4. 181146 Resolution relating to the Permanent Historic Designation of Washington
Park at 4301 West Lloyd Street in the 15th Ald. District.
Sponsors: THE CHAIR
5. 180798 Resolution relating to a Certificate of Appropriateness for the erection of a
new nine-story [amended to an eleven-story on 12/19] commercial building
at 511 N. Broadway (Parcel 3920656000), in the East Side Commercial
Historic District, for J. Jeffers & Co.
Sponsors: THE CHAIR
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6. 181247 Resolution relating to a Certificate of Appropriateness for the installation of
railings along the front paths at 2210 - 2212 N. Lake Drive, in the North
Point South Historic District, for Jagpal Waraich.
Sponsors: THE CHAIR
7. 180407 Resolution relating to a Certificate of Appropriateness for replacement of
windows and for mothball status at 1688 - 1690 N. Franklin Place in the
Brady Street Historic District for Iliya Torbica of Shepards LLC.
Sponsors: THE CHAIR
8. 181432 Resolution relating to a Certificate of Appropriateness for new signage at
618 N. Water Street in the East Side Commercial District Historic District
Elmnt Lounge and Toon City, Inc.
Sponsors: THE CHAIR
9. 181434 Resolution relating to a Certificate of Appropriateness for a projecting sign
at 1044 N. Old World 3rd Street in the Old World 3rd Street District Historic
District for Jake Dehne of RWB.
Sponsors: THE CHAIR
The following files represent staff approved Certificates of Appropriateness:
10. 181206 Resolution relating to a Certificate of Appropriateness for roof repairs on
the church and work on window wells on the church and the caretaker’s
house at 804 - 816 W. Vliet Street, St. John’s Evangelical Lutheran Church
Complex, an individually designated property, for St. John’s Evangelical
Lutheran Church.
Sponsors: THE CHAIR
11. 181338 Resolution relating to a Certificate of Appropriateness for the installation of
three new awnings at 801-809 N. Cass Street in the Cass Wells Historic
District for Buckley’s Restaurant and Bar LLC.
Sponsors: THE CHAIR
12. 181339 Resolution relating to a Certificate of Appropriateness for the installation of
signs for the business TRIO at 1025 North Old World Third Street in the Old
World Third Street Historic District for Evolution Real Estate LLC.
Sponsors: THE CHAIR
13. 180815 Resolution relating to a Certificate of Appropriateness for storefront
alterations at 2632 N. Downer Avenue, in the Downer Avenue Historic
District, for Alben LLC dba Breadsmith.
Sponsors: THE CHAIR
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14. 181412 Resolution relating to a Certificate of Appropriateness for a new Mad Over
Vape sign at 1229 East Brady Street in the Brady Street Historic District
for 1231 Brady LLC.
Sponsors: THE CHAIR
15. 181441 Resolution relating to a Certificate of Appropriateness for the installation of
HVAC equipment at 217 - 219 S. 2nd Street in the South 2nd Street
Historic District for Lloyd Parks.
Sponsors: THE CHAIR
16. Review and approval of the minutes from the December 3rd meeting.
17. Election of a vice chair.
18. Review and approval of the 2018 annual report.
19. Updates and announcements.
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