HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION
Regular MeetingMilwaukee, WI · February 10, 2020
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200 E. Wells Street
City of Milwaukee Milwaukee, Wisconsin
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Sally Peltz, CHAIR
Ald. Robert Bauman, VICE-CHAIR
Ann Pieper Eisenbrown, Matt Jarosz, Patricia Keating Kahn,
and Marion Clendenen-Acosta
Staff Assistant, Linda Elmer, 286-2231, Fax: 286-3456,
lelmer@milwaukee.gov
Senior Planner: Carlen Hatala, 286-5722,
chatal@milwaukee.gov
Senior Planner: Tim Askin, 286-5712,
tim.askin@milwaukee.gov
Legislative Liaison, Dana Zelazny, 286-8679,
dana.zelazny@milwaukee.gov
Monday, February 10, 2020 3:00 PM City Hall, Room 301-B
Meeting convened: 3:07 P.M.
Present: 5 - Pieper Eisenbrown, Jarosz, Bauman, Clendenen-Acosta, Peltz
Excused: 1 - Keating Kahn
1. 191329 Resolution relating to a Certificate of Appropriateness for the
construction of a new two-story mixed-use building at 1697 N. Marshall
Street, in the Brady Street Historic District, for Beach House LLC.
Sponsors: THE CHAIR
Mr. Tim Askin said this is a vacant site on Brady Street due to a fire 20 years ago.
Applicant is proposing a two-story mixed-use building witha minimal outdoor parking
space and the apartment entrance off of Marshall. There are four approval criteria
reviewed by staff. The siting is generally acceptable to staff and the curb cut has
been minimized in regards to placement of garbage carts. He would like to see more
space between the second-floor windows and the balcony railing could have more
detail to add visual interest. The roofline and details conform to Brady Street. Staff
recommends approval with conditions detailed in the staff report. The plans are pretty
much what staff expected and asked for over the preceding two months.
Yves LaPierre, Dept. of City Development, said there was a neighborhood meeting on
January 13th and the reception was positive to the building and the Zoning,
Neighborhoods and Development Committee approved this on Feb. 4th pending
approval by this body.
Grant with conditions in the staff report.
A motion was made by ALD. BAUMAN, seconded by Marion Clendenen-Acosta,
that this Resolution be ADOPTED. This motion PREVAILED by the following
vote:
Aye: 5- Bauman, Pieper Eisenbrown, Clendenen-Acosta, Jarosz, and Peltz
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No: 0
Excused: 2- VACANCY, and Keating Kahn
2. 191429 Resolution relating to a Certificate of Appropriateness for a dormer
addition and window relocation at 2518 N. Terrace Avenue, in the North
Point North Historic District, for Larry Bonney.
Sponsors: THE CHAIR
Mr. Tim Askin said that the project is to do a kitchen remodel and add a bathroom on
the second floor. Three windows on the ground floor will be affected and a new dormer
added, which will be hardly visible from the street and will be an exact copy of an
existing dormer. The slate from the roof will be salvaged and a membrane roof will be
on the new dormer (which the current dormer has). Staff requests that a sill be
retained and recess the brick infill for the one stand-alone window. It seems to meet
the guidelines for alterations and additions. The staff report does detail a few
conditions
John Van Rooy - the architect - they do have existing brick that matches in the garage.
The architect is fine with leaving the sill in.
Approve, with staff conditions.
A motion was made by Matt Jarosz, seconded by ALD. BAUMAN, that this
Resolution be ADOPTED. This motion PREVAILED by the following vote:
Aye: 5- Bauman, Pieper Eisenbrown, Clendenen-Acosta, Jarosz, and Peltz
No: 0
Excused: 2- VACANCY, and Keating Kahn
3. 191498 Resolution relating to a Certificate of Appropriateness for the installation
of two projecting signs at 144 E. Wells Street, the Pabst Theater, an
individually designated property, for Pabst Theater Foundation.
Sponsors: THE CHAIR
Mr. Tim Askin said that the proposal is to erect two large, vertical marque blade signs,
7 feet deep and 27 feet tall. There was a large blade sign in the late 1920s and was
removed in 1975 or 1976. The signs are large box, an homage to the original sign, but
staff doesn't support the signs. There will be scrolling lights and details. Mr. Askin
said the opera house signage was minimal, which this is not. Ald. Bauman noted that
the Chicago opera has a huge sign on its wall announcing forthcoming attractions.
Mike Kinsella - Elevated Identity, contractor - it would have open face channel letters
as Turner Hall and Riverside have. The P-A-B-S-T lights would scroll through the
letters. The scrolling and chasing lights can be turned off or slowed down if it
becomes an issue.
Ald. Bauman has no objection to the two proposed signs. Staff doesn't feel a sign of
this type is appropriate to a building of this type.
Mr. Jarosz sees that this type of lighting is restricted to artistic venues.
Ald. Bauman moved for approval with no conditions.
Jason Gerrill - Pabst Theater Group - they didn't want a garish sign.
Ald. Bauman thought that theatres had garish signs.
Mr. Jarosz seconded without amending.
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A motion was made by ALD. BAUMAN, seconded by Matt Jarosz, that this
Resolution be ADOPTED. This motion PREVAILED by the following vote:
Aye: 5- Bauman, Pieper Eisenbrown, Clendenen-Acosta, Jarosz, and Peltz
No: 0
Excused: 2- VACANCY, and Keating Kahn
4. 191517 Resolution relating to the Permanent Historic Designation of the Bryan
and Mary Coughlin House at 5027 W. North Avenue in the 15th Ald.
District.
Sponsors: THE CHAIR
Ms. Carlen Hatala said the nomination was submitted by the property owner, Thad
Nation. This was originally a 50-acre site owned by Bryan Coughlin and this was
probably the residential property for the 50 acres. In 1891, a rapid transit line was
established by Captain Pabst and his cohorts from downtown to Wauwatosa, which led
to rapid development in this area. Mr. Coughlin also built other residential buildings on
the 50-acre parcel, but a number of those have been demolished. The house, at the
time, was in the Town of Wauwatosa; the city annexed the land in 1910 and Mr.
Coughlin became a concerete contractor from 1911 to 1922.
In 1945, Jerrold Peever and his wife Jeanette bought the house and he ran his perfume
business out of the first floor and the second floor was used as a residence. Mr.
Peever eventually married Loretta Coughlin, the single daughter of Bryan Coughlin.
The property began changing owners in 1979.
Ms. Hatala said the building is a well preserved Classic Queen Anne house and retains
many of its architectural details. The garage was built by William Coughlin in 1911.
Staff recommends designation based upon e-5, embodiment of the distinguishing
characterics of an architectural type or specimen and e-9, its unique location which
represens an established and familiar visual feature of a neighborhood, community or
the city.
Thad Nation - owner of the property since 2007
A motion was made by ALD. BAUMAN, seconded by Marion Clendenen-Acosta,
that this Resolution be RECOMMENDED FOR ADOPTION AND ASSIGNED to the
ZONING, NEIGHBORHOODS & DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE . This motion
PREVAILED by the following vote:
Aye: 5- Bauman, Pieper Eisenbrown, Clendenen-Acosta, Jarosz, and Peltz
No: 0
Excused: 2- VACANCY, and Keating Kahn
5. 191520 Resolution relating to a Certificate of Appropriateness for mothball status
at 2804 - 2810 W. Kilbourn Avenue, in the Concordia Historic District, for
Sam Stair of S2M2 Real Estate.
Sponsors: THE CHAIR
Held at the request of the applicant.
This Resolution was HELD IN COMMITTEE
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Aye: 5- Bauman, Pieper Eisenbrown, Clendenen-Acosta, Jarosz, and Peltz
No: 0
Excused: 2- VACANCY, and Keating Kahn
6. 191521 Resolution relating to a Certificate of Appropriateness for replacing the
roof at 1218 E. Brady Street, in the Brady Street Historic District, for Pat
Suminski.
Sponsors: THE CHAIR
Mr. Tim Askin said there are two proposals; one the applicant would like and the other
staff would prefer. All of the photos are from the 1950s, although the building was built
in 1913; there is no information on the roof materials. There has been metal tile in the
front roof area since 1950 and the rest of the roof is asphalt shingle. There is a plain
chimney, which staff is fine with its removal.
Proposal 1 is Landmark shingle with a reddish brown color for the entire roof. Staff is
fine with the materials and color.
Proposal 2 is the Landmark shingles for the rear areas and new metal tile in the front
in the red tones that best coordinate with the asphalt shingle.
Staff recommends allowing chimney removal and proposal 2 with the option of using
the metal tile for the entire roof.
The metal tile is on the roof's front facade.
Chris Wichgers - contractor - the metal tiles are three times the cost of the shingles.
Mr. Jarosz moved for approval of proposal 2, with tile on the front slope, and shingle on
the rest of the roof.
A motion was made by Matt Jarosz, seconded by Marion Clendenen-Acosta,
that this Resolution be ADOPTED. This motion PREVAILED by the following
vote:
Aye: 5- Bauman, Pieper Eisenbrown, Clendenen-Acosta, Jarosz, and Peltz
No: 0
Excused: 2- VACANCY, and Keating Kahn
7. 191534 Resolution relating to a Certificate of Appropriateness for construction of
a new house at 2387 N. Terrace Avenue, in the North Point North Historic
District, for Tim Gokhman of At Terrace, LLC.
Sponsors: THE CHAIR
Mr. Tim Askin said that this is the second proposed house, the middle lot, for three
lots purchased from Columbia St. Mary's hospital on former hospital property. The
house has metal components with wood accents and a front gable. There will be a
two-car garage behind the house with a wood deck in back. The house will be a
mixture of medium gray and dark gray brick; there will be a green roof with solar panels
and a sun room. Staff recommends approval with conditions detailed in the staff
report. The recessed corner porch is uncommon in the neighborhood, but not
unprecedented. The massing is in character with the neighborhood and roofs and
projections are placed to avoid a monolithic appearance. Staff is concerned about the
stained wood, which is better than the initally proposed plain wood. Staff would like
more horizontal divisions in the first floor windows to break them up more.
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Jason Korb - Korb & Associates - the solar panels will not be visible from the street
and they are dark in color. The owner would prefer not to have horizontal divisions in
the front windows.
Tim Gokhman - owner - the goal was to have a classic form with modern elements.
The front windows were mullioned in the past as they were unable to make large
windows. The windows are the only exception that he asks.
Mr. Jarosz was fine without the horizontal lines on the front windows, as was Ms.
Clendenen-Acosta and Ald. Bauman.
A motion was made by ALD. BAUMAN, seconded by Marion Clendenen-Acosta,
that this Resolution be ADOPTED. This motion PREVAILED by the following
vote:
Aye: 5- Bauman, Pieper Eisenbrown, Clendenen-Acosta, Jarosz, and Peltz
No: 0
Excused: 2- VACANCY, and Keating Kahn
The following files represent staff approved Certificates of Appropriateness:
8. 191492 Resolution relating to a Certificate of Appropriateness for replacement of
the upper sash of four windows at 2821 E. Belleview Place, in the North
Point North Historic District, for Katz Properties.
Sponsors: THE CHAIR
A motion was made by Marion Clendenen-Acosta, seconded by Matt Jarosz,
that this Resolution be ADOPTED. This motion PREVAILED by the following
vote:
Aye: 5- Bauman, Pieper Eisenbrown, Clendenen-Acosta, Jarosz, and Peltz
No: 0
Excused: 2- VACANCY, and Keating Kahn
9. 191493 Resolution relating to a Certificate of Appropriateness for the
replacement of awnings at 1015 N. 9th Street, St. Benedict the Moor
Roman Catholic Church, an individually designated property, for the St.
Benedict Priory.
Sponsors: THE CHAIR
A motion was made by Marion Clendenen-Acosta, seconded by Matt Jarosz,
that this Resolution be ADOPTED. This motion PREVAILED by the following
vote:
Aye: 5- Bauman, Pieper Eisenbrown, Clendenen-Acosta, Jarosz, and Peltz
No: 0
Excused: 2- VACANCY, and Keating Kahn
10. 191621 Resolution relating to a Certificate of Appropriateness for erecting a
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fence at 2876 N. Grant Boulevard, in the Grant Boulevard Historic
District, for Amy Christensen.
Sponsors: THE CHAIR
A motion was made by Marion Clendenen-Acosta, seconded by Matt Jarosz,
that this Resolution be ADOPTED. This motion PREVAILED by the following
vote:
Aye: 5- Bauman, Pieper Eisenbrown, Clendenen-Acosta, Jarosz, and Peltz
No: 0
Excused: 2- VACANCY, and Keating Kahn
11. 191624 Resolution relating to a Certificate of Appropriateness for the installation
of two wall signs at 1044 N. Old World Third Street, in the Old World Third
Sreet Historic District, for Jake Dehne.
Sponsors: THE CHAIR
A motion was made by Marion Clendenen-Acosta, seconded by Matt Jarosz,
that this Resolution be ADOPTED. This motion PREVAILED by the following
vote:
Aye: 5- Bauman, Pieper Eisenbrown, Clendenen-Acosta, Jarosz, and Peltz
No: 0
Excused: 2- VACANCY, and Keating Kahn
12. 191648 Resolution relating to a Certificate of Appropriateness for the replacing a
fence, repointing, and repairing the roof at 2933 W McKinley Boulevard,
in the Cold Spring Park Historic District, for Marcus & Cheryl Switzer.
Sponsors: THE CHAIR
A motion was made by Marion Clendenen-Acosta, seconded by Matt Jarosz,
that this Resolution be ADOPTED. This motion PREVAILED by the following
vote:
Aye: 5- Bauman, Pieper Eisenbrown, Clendenen-Acosta, Jarosz, and Peltz
No: 0
Excused: 2- VACANCY, and Keating Kahn
13. 191650 Resolution relating to a Certificate of Appropriateness for a winter entry
awning at 235 E. Michigan Street, in the East Side Commercial Historic
District, for Historic Milwaukee, Inc.
Sponsors: THE CHAIR
A motion was made by Marion Clendenen-Acosta, seconded by Matt Jarosz,
that this Resolution be ADOPTED. This motion PREVAILED by the following
vote:
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Aye: 5- Bauman, Pieper Eisenbrown, Clendenen-Acosta, Jarosz, and Peltz
No: 0
Excused: 2- VACANCY, and Keating Kahn
14. Review and approval of the minutes from the January 6th meeting.
Mr.Jarosz moved, seconded by Ald. Bauman, for approval of the minutes. There were
no objections.
15. Updates and announcements.
Mr. Askin would like to have the murals subcommittee meet prior to the March HPC
meeting so that item can be on the March agenda.
Meeting adjourned: 4:43 P.M.
Linda M. Elmer
Staff Assistant
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200 E. Wells Street
City of Milwaukee Milwaukee, Wisconsin
53202
Meeting Agenda
HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION
Sally Peltz, CHAIR
Ald. Robert Bauman, VICE-CHAIR
Ann Pieper Eisenbrown, Matt Jarosz, Patricia Keating Kahn, and
Marion Clendenen-Acosta
Staff Assistant, Linda Elmer, 286-2231, Fax: 286-3456,
lelmer@milwaukee.gov
Senior Planner: Carlen Hatala, 286-5722, chatal@milwaukee.gov
Senior Planner: Tim Askin, 286-5712, tim.askin@milwaukee.gov
Legislative Liaison, Dana Zelazny, 286-8679,
dana.zelazny@milwaukee.gov
Monday, February 10, 2020 3:00 PM City Hall, Room 301-B
1. 191329 Resolution relating to a Certificate of Appropriateness for the construction
of a new two-story mixed-use building at 1697 N. Marshall Street, in the
Brady Street Historic District, for Beach House LLC.
Sponsors: THE CHAIR
2. 191429 Resolution relating to a Certificate of Appropriateness for a dormer
addition and window relocation at 2518 N. Terrace Avenue, in the North
Point North Historic District, for Larry Bonney.
Sponsors: THE CHAIR
3. 191498 Resolution relating to a Certificate of Appropriateness for the installation of
two projecting signs at 144 E. Wells Street, the Pabst Theater, an
individually designated property, for Pabst Theater Foundation.
Sponsors: THE CHAIR
4. 191517 Resolution relating to the Permanent Historic Designation of the Bryan and
Mary Coughlin House at 5027 W. North Avenue in the 15th Ald. District.
Sponsors: THE CHAIR
5. 191520 Resolution relating to a Certificate of Appropriateness for mothball status
at 2804 - 2810 W. Kilbourn Avenue, in the Concordia Historic District, for
Sam Stair of S2M2 Real Estate.
Sponsors: THE CHAIR
6. 191521 Resolution relating to a Certificate of Appropriateness for replacing the
roof at 1218 E. Brady Street, in the Brady Street Historic District, for Pat
Suminski.
Sponsors: THE CHAIR
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7. 191534 Resolution relating to a Certificate of Appropriateness for construction of a
new house at 2387 N. Terrace Avenue, in the North Point North Historic
District, for Tim Gokhman of At Terrace, LLC.
Sponsors: THE CHAIR
The following files represent staff approved Certificates of Appropriateness:
8. 191492 Resolution relating to a Certificate of Appropriateness for replacement of
the upper sash of four windows at 2821 E. Belleview Place, in the North
Point North Historic District, for Katz Properties.
Sponsors: THE CHAIR
9. 191493 Resolution relating to a Certificate of Appropriateness for the replacement
of awnings at 1015 N. 9th Street, St. Benedict the Moor Roman Catholic
Church, an individually designated property, for the St. Benedict Priory.
Sponsors: THE CHAIR
10. 191621 Resolution relating to a Certificate of Appropriateness for erecting a fence
at 2876 N. Grant Boulevard, in the Grant Boulevard Historic District, for
Amy Christensen.
Sponsors: THE CHAIR
11. 191624 Resolution relating to a Certificate of Appropriateness for the installation of
two wall signs at 1044 N. Old World Third Street, in the Old World Third
Sreet Historic District, for Jake Dehne.
Sponsors: THE CHAIR
12. 191648 Resolution relating to a Certificate of Appropriateness for the replacing a
fence, repointing, and repairing the roof at 2933 W McKinley Boulevard, in
the Cold Spring Park Historic District, for Marcus & Cheryl Switzer.
Sponsors: THE CHAIR
13. 191650 Resolution relating to a Certificate of Appropriateness for a winter entry
awning at 235 E. Michigan Street, in the East Side Commercial Historic
District, for Historic Milwaukee, Inc.
Sponsors: THE CHAIR
14. Review and approval of the minutes from the January 6th meeting.
15. Updates and announcements.
This meeting will be webcast live at www.milwaukee.gov/channel25.
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