Transportation Advisory Board
Regular MeetingNaperville, IL · February 17, 2022
Minutes
400 S. Eagle Street
City of Naperville Naperville, IL 60540
Meeting Minutes - Final
Transportation Advisory Board
Thursday, February 17, 2022 7:00 PM Council Chambers
A. CALL TO ORDER:
B. ROLL CALL:
This was closed.
Present 5- Scott Hurley, Michael Melaniphy, Inga Orolin, Matthew Seeberg, and James Webb
Absent 3- Janet Blubaugh, Michael Brown, and Mary Howenstine
C. PUBLIC FORUM:
There were no speakers for public forum.
This was closed.
D. REPORTS AND RECOMMENDATIONS:
Police Department Report
There was no police report
This was closed.
1. Approve the minutes of the October 7, 2021 Transportation Advisory Board
Meeting
Attachments: TAB Minutes October 7 2021
A motion was made by Hurley, seconded by Webb, approved. The motion
carried by the following vote:
Aye: 5- Hurley, Melaniphy, Orolin, Seeberg, and Webb
Absent: 3- Blubaugh, Brown, and Howenstine
2. Approve a recommendation to establish a “No Parking Zone” on the south side of
Jefferson Avenue from a point 80 feet west of the centerline of Whispering Hills
Drive to a point 165 west of the centerline of Whispering Hills Drive
Attachments: Jefferson Avenue No Parking Zone Draft Ordinance
Jefferson and Whispering Hills No Parking Zone Exhibit
City Traffic Engineer Andy Hynes explains the need for additional parking
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restriction on Jefferson Avenue southwest of the intersection with Whispering
Hills because of sight distance concerns.
Hurley asks if parking is usually occurring on this section.
Hynes states that not many vehicles use the area to park.
Hurley asks if any resident had any concerns with the restriction.
Hynes states that there were no concerns.
A motion was made by Seeberg, seconded by Webb, approved. The
motion carried by the following vote:
Aye: 5- Hurley, Melaniphy, Orolin, Seeberg, and Webb
Absent: 3- Blubaugh, Brown, and Howenstine
3. Approve a recommendation to establish a “No Parking Zone” on the east side of
Webster Street from a point 80 feet south of the centerline of Van Buren Avenue to
a point 105 feet south of the centerline of Van Buren Avenue
Attachments: Webster Street No Parking Zone Draft Ordinance
Webster Street No Parking Zone Exhibit
Hynes explains the need for a removal of a parking spot on the east side of
Webster Street south of Van Buren Avenue because of the need for access to
electrical equipment that is in the right of way.
A motion was made by Hurley, seconded by Webb, approved. The motion
carried by the following vote:
Aye: 5- Hurley, Melaniphy, Orolin, Seeberg, and Webb
Absent: 3- Blubaugh, Brown, and Howenstine
4. Approve a recommendation to establish a “No Parking, Stopping, or Standing
Zone” on Honey Locust Drive from 600’ north of Winterberry Avenue to a point
100’ north of the centerline of Winterberry Avenue on school days from 8:45 AM -
9:15 AM and from 3:15 PM - 3:45 PM.
Attachments: Honey Locust Drive Parking Restrictions Map
Honey Locust Drive Survey
Honey Locust Drive Ordinance
TED Project Manager Michael Prousa explains the need for restricting parking
during the school drop off and pick up times on Honey Locust Drive to limit
congestion.
Laura Bahardinkar states that she is in support of the restriction because of the
congestion in the area and states that pedestrians are almost hit because of the
dangerous driving. She also mentions that the sight distance near 103rd
because of parked cars is causing issues.
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Jennifer Tressler states that the parking is causing congestion and dangerous
situations. She has reached out to the principle of the school and states that
she is on board with the recommendation.
Rasheraj Godam states that people recklessly park close to the roundabout and
stop in front of driveways. Drivers also drop their kids off on the opposite side of
the street and let their kids cross at the midblock which creates a dangerous
situation.
Hurley asks if these changes are communicated to the residents so that they
are aware of the changes.
Prousa responds that the city has reached out to the school's principle about
sending out a letter to the parents regarding when the changes will take place.
Seeberg appreciated the residents that have told their stories concerning the
situation that they have been encountering.
Webb asks for confirmation if any of the parents are in a queue for the drop-off
line.
Prousa confirms that they are not in any queue, and they are just dropping of
students.
Melaniphy states that his is an area that is challenging to maneuver and thanks
residents and staff for their comments on the issue.
A motion was made by Hurley, seconded by Seeberg, approved. The
motion carried by the following vote:
Aye: 5- Hurley, Melaniphy, Orolin, Seeberg, and Webb
Absent: 3- Blubaugh, Brown, and Howenstine
5. Approve a recommendation to select Alternative #2 as the preferred alignment for
the proposed improvements to 248th Avenue between 95th Street and 103rd
Street
Attachments: Recommended Alternative_2_248th Avenue
Alternative 1_248th Avenue
Alternative 3_248th Avenue
Project Engineer Ray Fano outlines the 248th Avenue project and introduces the
consultants from CivilTech.
The consultants give a presentation on the 248th Avenue Project.
Tara McDonald asks what was actually improved for the ICN development
concerning the north access to 248th.
TED Director Bill Novack states that the City approved a right in right out for the
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north access and that the City will monitor the traffic and that the City reserves the
right to make changes to the access if there are operation challenges.
Tara McDonald asks if that is indicated in the ordinance.
Novack states that he will find out from the Legal Department on details regarding
the north access.
Tara McDonald asks if the PDR includes the ICN driveways.
CivilTech states that IDOT is aware of the north driveways.
Tara McDonald asks if the north access being full access would meet IDOT
specifications for the north and south access points to be that close.
CivilTech states that this would be something that the City would have to look into
in the future.
Tara McDonald asks why the signal warrant is not in the plans when it is warranted
in the future.
Hynes explains that it could be warranted in the future but it is currently not
warranted.
Tara McDonalds states that she has concerns that not everything that the City says
will be warranted in the future is being considered in the current roadway design at
the present.
Hynes states that the ICN development will have to come back to the City for each
phase of the build out and traffic will be evaluated at that time.
Tara McDonald asks if the City has looked at stop times for vehicles that are coming
out of ICN and then merging into traffic and then someone potentially crossing at
the bike trail.
Novack states that ICN will have an advisory speed limit posted on their driveway
for the vehicles leaving.
Tara McDonald asks if the southbound left being proposed at Honey Locust will
have enough room for the traffic coming into the ICN.
CivilTech states that the taper is as close to the crossing as they can according to
IDOT. And states that about 6 to 8 cars would be able to fit in the queue.
Tara McDonald asks whether every entity has been notified of the section 4
document for the trail.
CivilTech states that the Park District and Forest Preserve will be alerted of any
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changes of the designs or area.
Tara McDonald asks what the timing is on this step.
CivilTech states that it would be after City Council approves of the alternative.
CivilTech states that the document would still get approved if the trail has to move
to an alternative location.
Tara McDonald asks if it is a requirement to look at the hourly volumes throughout
the day.
CivilTech states that the PM peak hour is the critical hour and the greatest hour in
relation to traffic volume.
Tara McDonald asks if the peak hour takes into consideration the turning
movements of the ICN.
CivilTech states that the midday is the highest ICN volume and during the midday
the traffic on 248th is much less. The PM hour is still the highest total volume.
Steve Loman asks CivilTech when they were made aware of the ICN project.
CivilTech states that they were made aware of the ICN project early on and it was a
mistake to not have it on the original drawings.
Steve Loman asks if we looked at a macro traffic report for this project.
Hynes states that they have to consider the 2050 CMAP numbers and they are
required to use that information for IDOT procedures.
Steve Loman asks what the south entrance of the ICN property aligns with.
Hynes states that Honey Locust Drive is directly across the ICN property.
Steve Loman asks when the initial sound study was done for the 248th project.
CivilTech states that it was done prior to the 3rd public meeting, spring/summer of
2021.
Novack states the noise study does not take into account future development, only
development that have a building permit.
Steve Loman asks if CMAP accounted for the ICN parcel and what would be going in
to that parcel for their 2050 traffic projects.
Novack states the CMAP looks at a macro level for their numbers and that they had
a residential development on the parcel. IDOT allowed the City to change the traffic
projections to include the ICN development.
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Steve Loman asks what the peak traffic flow is for the ICN development.
CivilTech states that the specific number is in the traffic report.
Steve Loman states that the peak traffic will be between the two services in the
PM. He states 60 percent of the vehicles will be coming south on 248th. And that 60
percent of 580 vehicles will be heading south to a left turn that has a capacity of 8
vehicles. Steve Loman asks if the taper is decided by speed limit.
CivilTech states that speed is one of the criteria and the other criteria is volumes.
Steve Loman states that his biggest concern is cut through traffic through the
neighborhood. He would like a comprehensive traffic study to be done before the
project goes through.
Hurley asks about the safety of the offset of the trail and if there is any study that
this is a safer alternative to any other crossing.
CivilTech states that the configuration is meant for bicyclists and pedestrians to
make eye contact with vehicles. They also state that push buttons are also in the
median. They state that there is more room with the offset for stacking than
something that is straight across.
Webb asks if it would be possible to add a flashing beacon in the parking lot so that
drivers leaving the ICN development would be able to know if people are crossing
at the trail before leaving the parking lot.
CivilTech states that the RFB’s are very regulated and are relatively new. Currently
it would not be possible to have them situated on the side street.
Seeberg asks if there was ever consideration for another type of design for the bike
crossing.
Novack states that the City looked into possibilities and the cost of doing any other
options was not feasible.
Seeberg asks if in front of the unincorporated house there are other areas where
the trail goes down to 8 feet.
CivilTech states that the other area would be from the crossing to Trumpet that
would be 8 feet wide.
CivilTech states the resident was able to give feedback to staff on the changes
around his property.
Seeberg asks what the course would be if TAB were not to approve this.
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Novack states that a negative recommendation would still go to City Council.
Webb asks if once ICN traffic was added into the CMAP projections that the current
alignment was still meeting IDOT requirements.
CivilTech states that the alignment still does.
Hurley asks if this alternative would sustain the traffic on 248th for the 2050 traffic.
CivilTech states that we are nowhere near the next step for capacity which would
be a 6 lane highway.
Seeberg asks if there is enough right away to add a right turn lane for ICN.
Novack states that the City is looking into relocating utilities and investigating the
need for a right turn lane.
Melaniphy asks if electric vehicles have been taken into account for the noise
study.
CivilTech states that the noise model incorporates the average vehicle and that
electric vehicles would be included into the model in the future.
Melaniphy states that the board thanks the public, staff, and consultants for all
their input and expertise on this project.
Staff asks the board to also vote on whether the City should pursue federal funding
for this project and the board voted unanimously for the City to do that.
A motion was made by Webb, seconded by Seeberg, approved. The
motion carried by the following vote:
Aye: 4- Hurley, Melaniphy, Orolin, and Webb
Nay: 1- Seeberg
Absent: 3- Blubaugh, Brown, and Howenstine
E. OLD BUSINESS:
There was no old business discussed.
This was closed.
F. NEW BUSINESS:
Hynes states that there was a request from Naperville Environmental Sustainabilty
Task Force who were looking for a couple members from TAB that would be
interested in volunteering to engage with NEST.
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Hurley and Seeberg volunteer.
This was closed.
G. ADJOURNMENT:
A motion was made by Webb, seconded by Seeberg, to adjourn the meeting at
9:13 p.m. The motion carried by the following vote:
Aye: 5- Hurley, Melaniphy, Orolin, Seeberg, and Webb
Absent: 3- Blubaugh, Brown, and Howenstine
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Agenda
400 S. Eagle Street
City of Naperville Naperville, IL 60540
Meeting Agenda
Transportation Advisory Board
Thursday, February 17, 2022 7:00 PM Council Chambers
A. CALL TO ORDER:
B. ROLL CALL:
C. PUBLIC FORUM:
D. REPORTS AND RECOMMENDATIONS:
Police Department Report
1. 21-1549 Approve the minutes of the October 7, 2021 Transportation
Advisory Board Meeting
2. 21-1500 Approve a recommendation to establish a “No Parking Zone” on the
south side of Jefferson Avenue from a point 80 feet west of the
centerline of Whispering Hills Drive to a point 165 west of the
centerline of Whispering Hills Drive
3. 21-1518 Approve a recommendation to establish a “No Parking Zone” on the
east side of Webster Street from a point 80 feet south of the
centerline of Van Buren Avenue to a point 105 feet south of the
centerline of Van Buren Avenue
4. 21-1550 Approve a recommendation to establish a “No Parking, Stopping,
or Standing Zone” on Honey Locust Drive from 600’ north of
Winterberry Avenue to a point 100’ north of the centerline of
Winterberry Avenue on school days from 8:45 AM - 9:15 AM and
from 3:15 PM - 3:45 PM.
5. 21-1646 Approve a recommendation to select Alternative #2 as the
preferred alignment for the proposed improvements to 248th
Avenue between 95th Street and 103rd Street
E. OLD BUSINESS:
F. NEW BUSINESS:
G. ADJOURNMENT:
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