Transportation Advisory Board
Regular MeetingNaperville, IL · May 5, 2022
Minutes
400 S. Eagle Street
City of Naperville Naperville, IL 60540
Meeting Minutes - Final
Transportation Advisory Board
Thursday, May 5, 2022 7:00 PM Council Chambers
A. CALL TO ORDER:
B. ROLL CALL:
Present 7- Michael Brown, Suzanne Hart, Scott Hurley, Michael Melaniphy, Inga Orolin,
Matthew Seeberg, and James Webb
Absent 2- Janet Blubaugh, and Mary Howenstine
C. PUBLIC FORUM:
There were no speakers for public forum
This was closed.
D. REPORTS AND RECOMMENDATIONS:
1. Approve the minutes from the February 17, 2022 Transportation Advisory Board Meeting
Attachments: February 17 2022 Transporation Advisory Board Meeting Minutes
A motion was made by Webb, seconded by Brown, approved. The motion carried
by the following vote:
Aye: 7- Brown, Hart, Hurley, Melaniphy, Orolin, Seeberg, and Webb
Absent: 2- Blubaugh, and Howenstine
2. Approve the recommendation for City staff to create an Overnight Parking Program
Attachments: Overnight Parking Program
Westglen Overnight Parking Map
Enclave Overnight Parking Map
Overnight Parking Exemption Traffic Schedule
Prousa speaks about the concerns from residents that are unable to park their
vehicles on driveways that are shortened and one car garages. He also speaks about
the pilot program that the city initiated that has been successful for two HOA’s. The
pilot program has been continuously evaluated by City departments and those
departments have found no concerns with the on street parking during the
overnight hours. City staff would like to elevate the pilot program to a city program
that could take in new HOA’s if they fit criteria laid out in the program.
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Melaniphy asks the board if they have any questions.
Seeberg asks if the pilot program has been running since 2013 and why are we
looking at it now.
Prousa states that the pilot program has been running since its inception and that
the last year or two staff has received numerous concerns regarding the overnight
parking issues that these communities are having. Prousa states that because there
have been no concerns with operations from city departments, staff felt it was the
right time to consider the program.
Seeberg asks if there is any data or surveys from the pilot areas on how the program
is going.
Prousa states that staff has reached out to both HOA’s for feedback regarding the
program and both HOA’s had no concerns with how it was running.
Webb asks if enforcement is complaint based.
Prousa states that they are.
Webb asks if on average we know how many citations are issued regarding
overnight parking.
Traffic Sergeant Krakow states that he does not have the exact stats but in terms of
overnight parking there are upwards of 200 complaints that are active. Krakow
states that they are mostly from the last year.
Webb asks if most of them are in townhome or condo communities.
Krakow states that they are not but he does not have the exact data on that.
Hurley asks if staff knows what the percentage of neighborhoods that have HOA’s
in Naperville is.
Prousa states that he does not know the percentage. He states that generally
speaking townhome and condo communities are represented by an active HOA.
The pilot program was successful because the HOAs were active in participation.
Melaniphy asks if there are any speakers for the public forum.
The first speaker is Heather McDonald. She asks how the program will be enforced
overtime and whether or not they will be fined.
Prousa states that all parking ordinance violations will be given a ticket if reported
to a police officer. He goes on to mention that the program will be evaluated
constantly to ensure that compliance is occurring. Prousa also states that the
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program can be ended at anytime if an HOA is showing continued compliance
issues with city operations.
Melaniphy asks if the intent is for the HOA to do beginning enforcement and to
escalate to city staff or the police department if continued operation issues persist.
Prousa states that that is correct.
Heather McDonald asks if the escalation eventually gets to the police department.
Prousa states that escalations will be reported to the police if they are breaking city
ordinance. Staff will also be made aware of the violations and that will be recorded.
The next speaker is Jeff Allen. He speaks on how his HOA and himself supports the
ordinance and that there is pressure on parking in his HOA and that they already
have people breaking the overnight ordinance and that this program would be able
to help those people. He also states that the City can look into doing the overnight
parking on different sides of the street on different days. This would open the
street too street cleaning and plowing. He lastly says that he is for this program and
adding his HOA.
The next speaker is Russ Mathey. He speaks about the need for the parking program
in his neighborhood. He speaks that the main issues with a condo association is that
people park in the wrong places and that there are lot of cars for limited amount of
parking on the HOAs property. He states that it is confusing on how the HOA can
pass out the hangtags, he believes that the HOA could potentially have issues with
passing out the HOA passes.
Prousa states that the City is just providing potentials methods for distribution for
the HOA.
The next speaker is James Laures. States the rollout of the Overnight Parking
Program (“OPP”) to all Naperville neighborhoods strikes me as “taking a
sledge-hammer-to-kill-a-fly” response to a small problem that is unique to a few
Naperville neighborhoods zoned for and with multifamily residences and, as a
result, will result in many more serious, unanticipated problems than the one OPP
is attempting to address. Therefore, TAB should vote NO on OPP. My specific
comments are:
Property Values-Property values are very important to Naperville residents.
Anything like OPP that result in congested and parked-up neighborhood streets will
negatively impact property values. Conversely, neighborhoods that are not
congested and parked up are more desirable to home buyers (and viewed as safer -
less risk of their small children darting out from behind parked cars and behind
parked cars and being hit). Also, in neighborhoods that adopt OPP, residents (who
plan to sell their homes at some point) will want overnight parking hangtags as a
value-added enticement for potential buyers of their homes.
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Chicago Type Parking Headaches-Many Naperville residents have experienced
Chicago’s neighborhood parking headaches and do not want similar experiences in
Naperville. Rolling out OPP to all HOAs will create many more Chicago-like
problems as residents scramble to secure and defend parking areas in front of their
homes from neighbors and strangers who use OPP to keep their garages and
driveways free by distributing their vehicles around the neighborhood.
Snow Removal Deterioration-Snow removal from cul-de-sacs will deteriorate as
they become parked up with hangtag vehicles owned by both cul-de-sac residents
and those living elsewhere in the neighborhood, resulting in dangerous driving
conditions and increased need for repeat plowings.
24-hour, 7 day-week Street Parking-OPP will result in overnight residential street
parking becoming 24-hour, 7-day-week parking, as residents find new reasons to
use OPP to keep garages and driveways clear by moving their vehicles in front of
neighbors’ homes. As the result of OPP, a garage can be used for storage, a
workshop or game area and a driveway can be used for a basketball court, play area,
etc. Also, a Class B motorhome or F350 pickup truck (under 8,000lbs) previously
stored on the driveway now can be moved to the street. Exacerbating this growth in
on-street parking will be residents wanting hangtags to secure and defend the
parking areas in front of their homes from others using these spaces. Hence,
parked-up residential streets become the norm, not rather the exception.
HOA OPP Capabilities-Socially-oriented HOAs that do not receive legally-required
monthly dues generally are not equipped to effectively manage OPP-ensuring that
it is fairly implemented for all HOA members (including those not in favor of it),
accounting for hangtags, enforcement, and timely resolving of HOA member
complaints that surely will arise. Absent effective HOA enforcement and timely
resolution of complaints, HOA members’ only recourse will be to Naperville police
and/or departments for help.
Overnight Parking Complaints-At a recent TAB meetings, Naperville police states
there were less than 200 open overnight parking complaints, a minuscule .36% per
Naperville’s 55,000 households, which indicates the problem for which OPP was
developed is being effectively managed by the vast majority of Naperville
neighborhoods and their residents, and Naperville Police.
In summary, for the reasons discussed above, please vote NO on OPP. Thank you.
The next speaker is Nancy Laures. The Overnight Parking Program Pilot programs
conducted in townhome communities is not appropriate for parking regulation
of single family home subdivisions and I urge you to keep your
recommendation to the intended and piloted communities. I believe that
initiating a rule that allows single family homeowners to leave their vehicles
out on the street in front of anyone else’s property 24 hours a day is not in the
interest of all homeowners and creates multiple issues of abuse, unfairness,
inconvenience and safety.
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No Problem: Now, our small cul-de-sac doesn’t have a problem because we
don’t park on the street overnight by managing how we use our garages and
how we manage parking the cars/ trucks we own.
If a neighbor leaves a visiting child’s car out for a day or forgets to pull a car
into the driveway for a night, they move it shortly without the fear of having a
police patrol issue a citation for not seeing a subdivision hangtag. We don’t
have to plan ahead; we don’t have to hope the HOA rep is available to issue a
hangtag.
The Problem : But if you approve the overnight parking program for my single
family home
subdivision, then someone in my social HOA would decide who gets hangtags,
and all rules, with little enforcement authority; in fairness, if we can each get
one of these valuable hangtags, at least half of the homeowners (those who
live on the side of a street that has a fire hydrant) will get the ability to leave a
vehicle parked in front of another home-owner’s house (on other side of
street). Simply, there is not enough parking space on one side of the street to
accommodate both sides. In addition, anyone in the subdivision can park on our
convenient cul-de-sac. Vehicles do not have to leave the spot.
Other Issues: These are some of the problems we can expect on our small
cul-de-sac:
· Since someone who obtained a hangtag could store their car/
pick-up truck/ F 350 in front of your house as a convenient 24
-hours-a-day storage space, then it is a safety concern:
· limiting the easy access of emergency vehicles, which have
actually been needed multiple times on my cul-de-sac, near my
house.
· strangers’ activity in vehicles in front of the house any time of
the day or night.
· hazard of children running out into street from between many
parked cars, since 24 hour onstreet parking will be encouraged
with a hangtag.
· Non-delivery of mail by the USPS, which happened once with an
official USPS notice because someone’s car was parked in the
limited space in front of our house.
· Blocking delivery of city services to our houses, such as brush
pick-up, leaf pick up, street cleaning, and salting of street and
eventual snow removal.
· Snow removal on the cul-de-sac, already a problem for us at the
tip of the cul-du-sac, as the whole street’s snow gets pushed
down to the tip and then pushed out around the circle. With
allowable overnight parking by anyone in the subdivision with a
hangtag, cars parked on the street by strangers will cause the
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plows to leave snow in the front of our house and block the
driveway and mailbox.
· Our small cul-de-sac will be an attractive parking spot for the
connecting street that is the main roadway into the elementary
school, which has fire hydrants so would not have overnight
parking.
· For a few days per year, we want to park our personal cars in the
street in front of our house when the fresh driveway coating
needs to dry, and not have to fight to get a parking spot and
then get a hangtag.
In conclusion, the hangtag will be a valuable commodity, perhaps affecting the
property value of a home. Those in favor of this hangtag program will intend to
leave their cars/ trucks on the street, in front of any house that’s available,
without having to move them, for their convenience. Please vote no.
Thank you, Nancy Laures
Hurley asks if there is any evidence or data studies of parked vehicles having
an impact on bicycle and pedestrian safety.
Prousa states that he is not aware of any data that shows that. He shares an
example on how the city would handle those concerns.
Krakow states that the police department has nothing to add on this.
Hurley asks if it has been evaluated to reserve this to not single-family homes.
Prousa states that when evaluating they take into account characteristics that
are more defined in multi family neighborhoods.
Seeberg states that he understands the issue and asks if there is a requirement
that if it is open to one it is open to all.
Prousa states that no, there would be an application process for HOAs that
want this program and that city operations have priority.
Seeberg asks if it is assumed that the HOA put it out to vote for the HOA to be
included in the program.
Prousa states that it would be up to the HOA on how they would want to move
forward with it. He also states that each HOA that applies would have to come
to TAB and then City Council because it would be an ordinance change.
Seeberg asks if there would be signs posted on those streets referring to the
program.
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Prousa states that yes there would be signs on any street that would be in the
program.
Webb states that social HOAs should not be involved in handling these
programs. He asks what the City is looking for on whether or not to approve
them for the program.
Prousa states that they are looking for the amount of parking that they are
given and that they have a HOA that is involved in administration and not just
social.
A motion was made by Seeberg, seconded by Webb, approved. The motion
carried by the following vote:
Aye: 7- Brown, Hart, Hurley, Melaniphy, Orolin, Seeberg, and Webb
Absent: 2- Blubaugh, and Howenstine
3. Approve the Recommendation to Update the Ordinance 11-2A-8 on All Night Parking
Attachments: 11-2A-8 All Night Parking Ordinance
A motion was made by Hurley, seconded by Hart, approved. The motion carried
by the following vote:
Aye: 7- Brown, Hart, Hurley, Melaniphy, Orolin, Seeberg, and Webb
Absent: 2- Blubaugh, and Howenstine
4. Approve a Recommendation to Establish Overnight Parking Exemptions for The Villages
of Westglen and The Enclave at Country Lakes
Attachments: Westglen Overnight Parking Map
Enclave Overnight Parking Map
Overnight Parking Exemption Traffic Schedule Additions
A motion was made by Webb, seconded by Brown, approved. The motion carried
by the following vote:
Aye: 7- Brown, Hart, Hurley, Melaniphy, Orolin, Seeberg, and Webb
Absent: 2- Blubaugh, and Howenstine
Police Department Report
Krakow states that there is a program that is targeting enforcement for speeds
on route 59. He encourages drivers to drive safely.
This was closed.
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E. OLD BUSINESS:
Melaniphy states on whether or not if the one way signage will be updated
from temporary signage to something more permanent.
City Traffic Engineer Andy Hynes states that the city is working on the
engineering on adding a curb extension at the intersection of Eagle and
Jefferson and it may get done this year but may get done in 2023.
This was closed.
F. NEW BUSINESS:
There was no new business discussed
This was closed.
G. ADJOURNMENT:
A motion was made by Seeberg, seconded by Orolin, to adjourn the meeting at
7:45 p.m. The motion carried by the following vote:
Aye: 7- Brown, Hart, Hurley, Melaniphy, Orolin, Seeberg, and Webb
Absent: 2- Blubaugh, and Howenstine
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Agenda
400 S. Eagle Street
City of Naperville Naperville, IL 60540
Meeting Agenda
Transportation Advisory Board
Thursday, May 5, 2022 7:00 PM Council Chambers
A. CALL TO ORDER:
B. ROLL CALL:
C. PUBLIC FORUM:
D. REPORTS AND RECOMMENDATIONS:
1. 22-0434 Approve the minutes from the February 17, 2022 Transportation Advisory
Board Meeting
2. 22-0428 Approve the recommendation for City staff to create an Overnight Parking
Program
3. 22-0568 Approve the Recommendation to Update the Ordinance 11-2A-8 on All
Night Parking
4. 22-0567 Approve a Recommendation to Establish Overnight Parking Exemptions
for The Villages of Westglen and The Enclave at Country Lakes
Police Department Report
E. OLD BUSINESS:
F. NEW BUSINESS:
G. ADJOURNMENT:
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