Aldermen, Board of
Regular MeetingNashua, NH · August 9, 2011
Minutes
A regular meeting of the Board of Aldermen was held Tuesday, August 9, 2011 at 7:30 p.m. in the
Aldermanic Chamber.
President Brian S. McCarthy presided; Deputy City Clerk Patricia Piecuch recorded.
Prayer was offered by Deputy City Clerk Patricia Piecuch; Alderman Tabacsko led in the Pledge to the Flag.
The roll call was taken with 12 members of the Board of Aldermen present; Aldermen Vitale and Sheehan
arrived after the roll was taken.
President McCarthy
Alderman Sheehan is I believe up at the Zoning Board of Adjustment.
Her Honor Mayor Donnalee Lozeau and Deputy Corporation Counsel Stephen M. Bennett were also in
attendance.
President McCarthy
Does the Mayor wish to address the board?
REMARKS BY THE MAYOR
Thank you, Mr. President. I would just take a moment tonight to again thank all of our many city volunteers,
some of whom are on the agenda this evening, and many of whom are here tonight for different purposes,
for their time commitment and dedication to helping us keep Nashua great. I think in some instances, one
of which you will hear about tonight, are players, so to speak on the Silver Knights, could be considered
volunteers as well, and going the extra mile tonight, which I am looking forward to sharing with you tonight
their happy news. Thank you for your kind attention tonight.
RESPONSE TO REMARKS OF THE MAYOR - None
RECOGNITION PERIOD
MOTION BY ALDERMAN DEANE THAT THE RULES BE SO FAR SUSPENDED AS TO ALLOW FOR
THE FIRST READING OF A RESOLUTION RECEIVED AFTER THE AGENDA WAS PREPARED
MOTION CARRIED
R-11-144
Endorsers: Mayor Donnalee Lozeau
Board of Aldermen
EXTENDING CONGRATULATIONS TO THE NASHUA SILVER KNIGHTS BASEBALL TEAM
Given its first reading;
MOTION BY ALDERMAN DEANE THAT THE RULES BE SO FAR SUSPENDED AS TO ALLOW FOR
THE SECOND READING OF R-11-144
MOTION CARRIED
Resolution R-11-144 given its second reading;
MOTION BY ALDERMAN DEANE FOR FINAL PASSAGE OF R-11-144
MOTION CARRIED
Resolution R-11-144 declared duly adopted.
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READING MINUTES OF PREVIOUS MEETINGS AND PUBLIC HEARINGS
MOTION BY ALDERMAN CLEMONS THAT THE MINUTES OF THE BOARD OF ALDERMEN
MEETINGS OF JULY 12, 2011, AND JULY 21, 2011, AND THE PUBLIC HEARINGS CONDUCTED
BY THE BOARD OF ALDERMEN ON JULY 21, 2011 AND THE PERSONNEL/ADMINISTRATIVE
AFFAIRS COMMITTEE ON AUGUST 3, 2011, BE ACCEPTED, PLACED ON FILE, AND THE
READINGS SUSPENDED
MOTION CARRIED
COMMUNICATIONS
MOTION BY ALDERMAN CHASSE THAT ALL COMMUNICATIONS BE READ BY TITLE ONLY
MOTION CARRIED
From: Alderman-at-Large Barbara Pressly
Re: Application Form
MOTION BY ALDERMAN PRESSLY TO ACCEPT, PLACE ON FILE AND REFER TO THE
PERSONNEL/ADMINISTRATIVE AFFAIRS COMMITTEE
MOTION CARRIED
From: Alderman-at-Large Barbara Pressly
Re: Corporation Counsel’s Ruling was Erroneous and Inappropriate re: R-11-137
MOTION BY ALDERMAN PRESSLY TO ACCEPT, PLACE ON FILE AND REFER TO THE
PERSONNEL/ADMINISTRATIVE AFFAIRS COMMITTEE
MOTION CARRIED
From: Paul R. Bergeron, City Clerk
Re: Requesting that the Board of Aldermen Direct the Ward Selectmen to Post
Their Warrants for the Municipal General Election and Municipal Special Election
To be Held on Tuesday, November 8, 2011
MOTION BY ALDERMAN CLEMONS TO ACCEPT, PLACE ON FILE AND DIRECT THE WARD
SELECTMEN TO POST THEIR WARRANTS FOR THE MUNICIPAL GENERAL ELECTION AND
MUNICIPAL SPECIAL ELECTION TO BE HELD ON TUESDAY, NOVEMBER 8, 2011
MOTION CARRIED
PERIOD FOR PUBLIC COMMENT RELATIVE TO ITEMS EXPECTED TO BE ACTED UPON THIS
EVENING
Tim Nickerson, 1 Clocktower Place
Thank you. I am also the Chair of the Nashua International Design Competition Jury. I come before you
tonight to urge you to vote in favor of R-11-138, the funding for the design competition. First of all thank you
to the Mayor for sponsoring the resolution.
For the past 5 months or so the design competition jury has been meeting quite regularly. At times we have
been meeting weekly to prepare for this competition. In all probably about 400 hours of time have been
spent preparing for this effort. In coordination with the Mayor and city staff, the jury has really defined a
pretty thorough scope of work for the competition and drafted a pretty tight call for entries. We are pretty
close to releasing that to the public.
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The final piece in the puzzle is the issue of funding. The jury has discussed this sometimes rather intensely
as to whether money was needed to attract professional architects, landscape architects, planners, and
other design professionals to submit entries for this competition. We actually came to the conclusion that
this was an absolute necessity. Competitions such as Boston’s Rose Kennedy Greenway over the central
artery project, the St. Louis Arch, and even Central Park probably the most famous design competition all
had prize money attached to them. I’m not suggesting that Nashua’s Broad Street Parkway is anything of
that scale, but certainly we pretty much feel that if prize money weren’t offered as part of those competitions
that they really wouldn’t get the innovative designs that are really as quite as impressive as they are. We
here in Nashua really need that carrot to draw that interest to the Nashua International Design Competition.
This resolution really provides that carrot.
The jury that is comprised of design professionals, local stakeholders, and other professionals are really
confident the submissions we anticipate to receive by the close of the competition will really create some
pretty exciting energy for the Broad Street Parkway. In addition, there are bound to be some unique
solutions for the way the public spaces really interact with those private spaces and the private property. I
actually wouldn’t even be surprised if some of the design solutions that are submitted as part of this
competition are actually implemented by some of the private property owners. That is really one of the
benefits of a successful design competition that there is that renewed interested, that rejuvenated passion,
and even a fresh commitment to redevelopment by all parties public and private.
I feel pretty comfortable in speaking for all members of the jury in such that we believe that this funding is
absolutely necessary for this project to succeed. I urge you to vote in favor of R-11-138. Thank you.
Mike Dube, 6 Majestic Avenue
I’m urging everyone to vote in favor of O-10-44, Amending the Land Use Code by Prohibiting the Placement
of Telecommunications Towers in Zoning Districts R-40, R-30, R-18, and R-9. This is something we have
been dealing with for several years now up in Ward 1 and Majestic Heights and Parish Hill. It would be nice
to have some piece of mind rather than have them shoehorn this in our front and back yards. That is all I
have to say. Thank you.
Alderman Tabacsko
Thank you. I would ask you and my colleagues to consider a motion to allow two additional speakers that
wish to speak on O-11-76. They are members of the Services Advisory Committee, and didn’t get the sign
up sheet in time.
MOTION BY ALDERMAN TABACSKO TO ALLOW TWO ADDITIONAL SPEAKERS
MOTION CARRIED
Mary Lou Blaisdell
I am here to speak on O-11-76. I first would like to thank all of the board who have been actively involved
with our committee and who have supported the work that we have done and who are supporting this
amendment and the prior amendments that have come up. Your support and your work with us is certainly
appreciated downtown. I would just like to urge the board tonight to support this legislation. I think the
committee came up with a great plan on how to fund downtown improvements, and without taking money
away from the general fund, from parking that is already part of that budget process.
Again I would like to thank you and I would like to urge you to support this amendment this evening. Thank
you.
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Richard Lannan
Good evening. I am also on the Services Advisory Committee and a property owner of several properties
within the proposed district. I just want to reiterate what Mary Lou said; we would like to thank you. There
are a lot of Aldermen as well as the Mayor that have been involved in a lot of meetings especially Aldermen
Tabacsko, Cox, and McCarthy have been to several meetings. It has been a long road. It has been a year
and a half. We probably still have a lot of work ahead of us over the years, but we would like to urge you to
support this and move forward for the betterment of downtown. Thank you.
PETITIONS – None
NOMINATIONS, APPOINTMENTS AND ELECTIONS
Appointments by the Mayor
The following appointments by the mayor were read into the record:
Business & Industrial Development Authority
Bradley T. Vear (Reappointment) Term to Expire: September 13, 2014
547 Amherst Street
Nashua, NH 03063
Jack Tulley (Reappointment) Term to Expire: September 13, 2014
110 Middle Dunstable Road
Nashua, NH 03062
Don Zizzi (Reappointment) Term to Expire: September 13, 2014
24 Deerhaven Drive
Nashua, NH 03064
Ethnic Awareness Committee
Rhonda Karlsberg (New Appointment) Term to Expire: December 31, 2014
25 Hampton Drive
Nashua, NH 03063
Planning Board
Daniel R. Kelly (Moving from Alternate to Full Member) Term to Expire: March 31, 2014
9 Lilac Court
Nashua, NH 03062
Adam C. Varley, Alternate (New Appointment) Term to Expire: March 31, 2014
3 Scotia Way
Nashua, NH 03062
Zoning Board of Adjustment
Robert Carlson, Alternate (Reappointment) Term to Expire: September 11, 2014
17 Cabot Drive
Nashua, NH 03064
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MOTION BY ALDERMAN CLEMONS TO ACCEPT THE APPOINTMENTS BY THE MAYOR AS READ
AND REFER THEM TO THE PERSONNEL/ADMINISTRATIVE AFFAIRS COMMITTEE
MOTION CARRIED
REPORTS OF COMMITTEE
Budget Review Committee ................................................................. 07/21/11
There being no objection, President McCarthy declared the report of the July 21, 2011
Budget Review Committee accepted and placed on file.
Finance Committee ............................................................................ 07/20/11
There being no objection, President McCarthy declared the report of the July 20, 2011
Finance Committee accepted and placed on file.
Finance Committee ............................................................................ 08/03/11
There being no objection, President McCarthy declared the report of the August 3, 2011
Finance Committee accepted and placed on file.
Human Affairs Committee .................................................................. 07/18/11
There being no objection, President McCarthy declared the report of the July 18, 2011
Human Affairs Committee accepted and placed on file.
Pennichuck Water Special Committee................................................ 07/11/11
There being no objection, President McCarthy declared the report of the July 11, 2011
Pennichuck Water Special Committee accepted and placed on file.
Personnel/Administrative Affairs Committee....................................... 07/14/11
There being no objection, President McCarthy declared the report of the July 14, 2011
Personnel/Administrative Affairs Committee accepted and placed on file.
Special Personnel/Administrative Affairs Committee .......................... 08/03/11
There being no objection, President McCarthy declared the report of the August 3, 2011
Special Personnel/Administrative Affairs Committee accepted and placed on file.
Planning & Economic Development Committee ................................. 07/19/11
There being no objection, President McCarthy declared the report of the July 19, 2011
Planning & Economic Development Committee accepted and placed on file.
WRITTEN REPORTS FROM LIAISONS – None
CONFIRMATION OF MAYOR'S APPOINTMENTS
Airport Authority
MOTION BY ALDERMAN CLEMONS TO CONFIRM BY VOICE VOTE THE REAPPOINTMENT OF
DENNIS STEPHENS, 9 BYRON DRIVE, NASHUA, FOR A TERM TO EXPIRE AUGUST 31, 2016
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MOTION CARRIED
President McCarthy declared Dennis Stephens duly reappointed to the Airport Authority for a term to expire
August 31, 2016.
Hunt Building Board of Trustees
MOTION BY ALDERMAN LAROSE TO CONFIRM BY VOICE VOTE THE APPOINTMENT OF
TAMMY L. CRISP, 7 BARTLETT AVENUE, NASHUA, FOR A TERM TO EXPIRE DECEMBER 31,
2015
MOTION CARRIED
President McCarthy declared Tammy L. Crisp duly appointed to the Hunt Building Board of Trustees for a
term to expire December 31, 2015.
Oath of Office administered by Deputy Corporation Counsel.
UNFINISHED BUSINESS – RESOLUTIONS
R-11-127
Endorsers: Mayor Donnalee Lozeau
Alderman-at-Large Lori Wilshire
Alderman Richard LaRose
Alderman Diane Sheehan
Alderman-at-Large Ben Clemons
Alderman Kathy Vitale
Alderman Arthur T. Craffey, Jr.
Alderman Michael J. Tabacsko
Alderman Mary Ann Melizzi-Golja
Alderman Jeffrey T. Cox
RELATIVE TO THE ACCEPTANCE AND APPROPRIATION OF FUNDS IN THE AMOUNT OF
$40,175 OBTAINED FROM THE STATE OF NEW HAMPSHIRE INTO SPECIAL REVENUE
ACCOUNT 331-6279 “NH DRUG TASK FORCE 2012”
Given its second reading;
MOTION BY ALDERMAN WILSHIRE FOR FINAL PASSAGE OF R-11-127
MOTION CARRIED
Resolution R-11-127 declared duly adopted.
Alderman Deane
Thank you. I have a series of motions to make, and for those of you who read the minutes of the last
Budget Review Committee, we have an NRO in place §5:130 H that states that “when proposed legislation
to transfer or re-appropriate a particular appropriation or portion thereof has had its first reading, such funds
shall not be expended or transferred while the legislation is pending.” which means if Alderman Wilshire files
a piece of legislation to use money from account X, account X can’t be drained to leave less than that total
sum in there. That money can’t be touched until that legislation has been disposed of.
If you look at your agenda at R-11-129, that $136,000 is associated with an increased cost pertaining to
Pennichuck rate increases that we have to absorb. We had two pieces of legislation; R-10-66, which was, I
wish Alderman Sheehan was here, but she was at the Budget meeting. It was relative to the transfer of
$92,000 from account 591-86005 FY2011 General Contingency into account 577-11 Code Enforcement
Payroll Full Time, and my colleague Alderman Pressly also had an ordinance in place; O-10-23,
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Establishing an Ombudsman for the City of Nashua and Authorizing the Transfer of $60,000 from 591-
86005 2011 General Contingency into account 501-53, Mayor’s Office Professional Services.
What we have here is the $136,000 is being called for under 591-86005, but the account does not contained
enough for the balance because these two pieces of legislation, by ordinance, tie up those dollars until
these pieces are disposed of in whatever manner the board decides to work with. What we were going to
do in order to satisfy my colleagues that had sponsored these legislations is we are going to change the
fiscal year from FY11 to FY12 out of the same account so that the legislation will be funded, will have those
funding sources available to them until such time as we disposed of them, and then we can take action on
R-11-129 to pay the increase in cost to the Pennichuck Water Company.
MOTION BY ALDERMAN DEANE TO WITHDRAW FROM COMMITTEE R-10-66, RELATIVE TO THE
TRANSFER OF $92,000 FROM ACCOUNT 591-86005 “FY2011 GENERAL CONTINGENCY” INTO
ACCOUNT 577-11 “CODE ENFORCEMENT, PAYROLL – FULL TIME” AND O-10-23, ESTABLISHING
AN OMBUDSMAN FOR THE CITY OF NASHUA AND AUTHORIZING THE TRANSFER OF $60,000
FROM ACCOUNT 591-86005 “FY2011 GENERAL CONTINGENCY” INTO ACCOUNT 501-53 “MAYOR’S
OFFICE – PROFESSIONAL SERVICES”
MOTION CARRIED
R-10-66
Endorser: Alderman Diane Sheehan
RELATIVE TO THE TRANSFER OF $92,000 FROM ACCOUNT 591-86005
“FY2011 GENERAL CONTINGENCY” INTO ACCOUNT 577-11 “CODE
ENFORCEMENT, PAYROLL – FULL TIME”
Given its second reading;
MOTION BY ALDERMAN DEANE TO AMEND R-10-66 BY REPLACING FISCAL YEAR 2011 WITH
FISCAL YEAR 2012
MOTION CARRIED
MOTION BY ALDERMAN DEANE TO RE-REFER R-10-66, AS AMENDED, TO THE BUDGET REVIEW
COMMITTEE
MOTION CARRIED
O-10-23
Endorser: Alderman-at-Large Barbara Pressly
ESTABLISHING AN OMBUDSMAN FOR THE CITY OF NASHUA AND AUTHORIZING THE
TRANSFER OF $60,000 FROM ACCOUNT 591-86005 “FY2011 GENERAL CONTINGENCY” INTO
ACCOUNT 501-53 “MAYOR’S OFFICE – PROFESSIONAL SERVICES”
Given its second reading;
MOTION BY ALDERMAN DEANE TO AMEND O-10-23 BY REPLACING FISCAL YEAR 2011 WITH
FISCAL YEAR 2012
MOTION CARRIED
MOTION BY ALDERMAN DEANE TO RE-REFER O-10-23, AS AMENDED, TO THE PERSONNEL/
ADMINISTRATIVE AFFAIRS COMMITTEE AND THE BUDGET REVIEW COMMITTEE
MOTION CARRIED
R-11-129
Endorser: Mayor Donnalee Lozeau
RELATIVE TO THE TRANSFER OF $136,000 FROM ACCOUNT #591-86005 “CONTINGENCY-
GENERAL” INTO ACCOUNT #533-33010 “WATER SUPPLY- HYDRANTS, FIRE PROTECTION
SERVICES”
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Given its second reading;
MOTION BY ALDERMAN DEANE FOR FINAL PASSAGE OF R-11-129
ON THE QUESTION
Alderman Deane
I just wanted to state that §5:130 H did exactly what it was supposed to do. It gave this board control of
those dollars as they saw fit with the legislation it filed. I wouldn’t consider this an unintended consequence
it is exactly what that amendment to that NRO was set out to do. Thank you.
Alderman Clemons
I would concur.
MOTION CARRIED
Resolution R-11-129 declared duly adopted.
R-11-130
Endorsers: Mayor Donnalee Lozeau
Alderman-at-Large Brian S. McCarthy
Alderman Michael J. Tabacsko
Alderman Jeffrey T. Cox
Alderman Diane Sheehan
Alderman Arthur T. Craffey, Jr.
REFUNDING THE YMCA’S PROPERTY TAXES FOR THE TAX YEAR STARTING APRIL 1, 2011
Given its second reading;
MOTION BY ALDERMAN TABACSKO FOR FINAL PASSAGE OF R-11-130
ON THE QUESTION
Alderman Cookson
Thank you Mr. President. At this time I recuse myself from voting on this particular resolution. I do sit on
the YMCA’s Board of Directors and while I don’t have any particular pecuniary interest, I don’t want there to
appear to be any perception that I am voting for this because I am on the board. I will recuse myself from
this vote.
President McCarthy
Attorney Bennett do you believe that there is any conflict?
Stephen Bennett, Esq.
Without having any financial interest in it I don’t believe there is necessarily a conflict, but the final decision
for recusal is of course always up to the member.
President McCarthy
It is not because we have an ordinance that compels members to vote on every piece of legislation that
comes before us unless they have a declared conflict. I believe Alderman Cookson you are in the position
of being required to vote by that ordinance.
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Alderman Cookson
I would request an opinion from Legal further clarifying that because I do not want the perception of any
conflict of interest; fiscal or not. At this point, I am ready to stand by my request to recuse myself.
President McCarthy
It is an issue of the rules, and my ruling is that you are required to vote. I would be more than happy to
entertain an appeal of that to the board if you so desire.
Alderman Cookson
Make it so.
President McCarthy
The ruling of the Chair has been appealed. A yes vote is in favor of sustaining the Chair’s ruling and
requiring Alderman Cookson to vote and a no vote would overrule the ruling of the Chair and allow the
ordinance to be essentially overridden.
MOTION CARRIED
Alderman Cookson
Thank you.
President McCarthy
The issue before us then is the vote for final passage of R-11-130.
MOTION CARRIED
Resolution R-11-130 declared duly adopted.
R-11-135
Endorsers: Alderman Richard LaRose
Alderman Mary Ann Melizzi-Golja
Alderman Michael J. Tabacsko
Alderman Diane Sheehan
Alderman-at-Large Barbara Pressly
CREATING A SPECIAL REVENUE FUND FOR THE HUNT BUILDING
Given its second reading;
MOTION BY ALDERMAN LAROSE FOR FINAL PASSAGE OF R-11-135
MOTION CARRIED
Resolution R-11-135 declared duly adopted.
R-11-136
Endorsers: Mayor Donnalee Lozeau
Alderman-at-Large Ben Clemons
RELATIVE TO THE RE-APPROPRIATION OF FISCAL YEAR 2012 ESCROWS
Given its second reading;
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MOTION BY ALDERMAN CLEMONS FOR FINAL PASSAGE OF R-11-136
MOTION CARRIED
Resolution R-11-136 declared duly adopted.
R-11-138
Endorsers: Mayor Donnalee Lozeau
Alderman-at-Large Ben Clemons
Alderman Arthur T. Craffey, Jr.
Alderman-at-Large Barbara Pressly
Alderman Michael J. Tabacsko
Alderman Mary Ann Melizzi-Golja
Alderman Diane Sheehan
Alderman-at-Large Brian S. McCarthy
RELATIVE TO THE TRANSFER OF $5,000 FROM ACCOUNT #591-86005 “CONTINGENCY-
GENERAL” INTO ACCOUNT #753-3740 “NASHUA MILLYARD DESIGN COMPETITION –
BROAD STREET PARKWAY”
Given its second reading;
MOTION BY ALDERMAN CRAFFEY FOR FINAL PASSAGE OF R-11-138
ON THE QUESTION
Alderman Deane
I will not be supporting the dangling of a $5,000 carrot of taxpayers’ money in front of anyone.
Alderman Cookson
Thank you. I won’t be supporting this particular resolution either. A couple of concerns; I believe that when
this jury first came before the Mayor and proposed the idea there was absolutely going to be no need or
requirement of any funds whatsoever to entice anybody to come and join and be part of this design
competition. We were told that there was going to be no money. Several months later after several
meetings, now they need $5,000, but $5,000 isn’t going to be the prize because within that particular
resolution it also says that there are other costs they are going to need to use part of that money for whether
it be printing or whatever. The prize is going to be something less than $5,000. We don’t know what that is
going to be, we don’t know how much money it is going to cost to print. I am absolutely opposed to this until
we get a better understanding of how they are going to use the money, the taxpayer money that they are
requesting.
Alderman Tabacsko
Thank you. I take quite the opposite view of the two previous speakers. I think this is a good piece of
legislation that provides for spending I think in a rather prudent manner. This is a pretty major design event
and I think we are getting away cheap for $5,000. Thank you.
President McCarthy
Is there further discussion?
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A Viva Voce Roll Call was requested, which resulted as follows:
Yea: Alderman Clemons, Alderman Vitale, Alderman Craffey, Alderman Pressly, Alderman LaRose,
Alderman Tabacsko, Alderman Melizzi-Golja, Alderman Cox, Alderman Sheehan,
Alderman Wilshire, Alderman McCarthy
11
Nay: Alderman Deane, Alderman Chasse, Alderman Cookson
3
MOTION CARRIED
Resolution R-11-138 declared duly adopted.
R-11-139
Endorsers: Alderman-at-Large Ben Clemons
Alderman Michael J. Tabacsko
Alderman Arthur T. Craffey, Jr.
Alderman Kathy Vitale
Alderman Mary Ann Melizzi-Golja
Alderman Diane Sheehan
Alderman-at-Large Brian S. McCarthy
PROPOSING AN AMENDMENT TO THE CITY CHARTER RELATIVE TO FILLING
VACANCIES IN THE BOARD OF ALDERMEN, BOARD OF PUBLIC WORKS, BOARD
OF FIRE COMMISSIONERS, AND BOARD OF EDUCATION
Given its second reading;
MOTION BY ALDERMAN CLEMONS THAT R-11-139 BE PLACED ON THE BALLOT AT THE NEXT
REGULAR MUNICIPAL ELECTION AND THAT COPIES OF THE PROPOSED AMENDMENT AND A
SUMMARY THEREOF BE MADE AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC IN THE CITY CLERK’S OFFICE AT
LEAST TWO WEEK’S PRIOR TO THE ELECTION
ON THE QUESTION
Alderman Deane
I just wanted to let Alderman Vitale know, through you, that I did contact the City Clerk. He did render an
opinion and I did respond back to him and tell him that I was planning on sharing that with my colleagues.
You got that e-mail correct?
Alderman Vitale
I did not see the e-mail, but that is probably why I didn’t pass it on. I will have to go back and look, but I
didn’t see it. I was just mentioning that to Alderman Clemons.
Alderman Deane
He typed favorably on the question. City Clerk Bergeron is in support of this change.
Alderman Pressly
Thank you. Could you elaborate a bit more? Some of us were concerned that it would remove the choice
from the voters. Could you assure us having spoken with City Clerk that is not the case?
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Alderman Deane
It is not removing the choice of anyone. When the ballot is set it is set.
President McCarthy
Is there further discussion?
MOTION CARRIED
UNFINISHED BUSINESS – ORDINANCES
O-10-44
Endorsers: Alderman Kathy Vitale
Alderman Diane Sheehan
Alderman-at-Large Mark S. Cookson
Alderman Mary Ann Melizzi-Golja
AMENDING THE LAND USE CODE BY PROHIBITING THE PLACEMENT OF
TELECOMMUNICATIONS TOWERS IN ZONING DISTRICTS R-40, R-30, R-18
AND R-9
Given its second reading;
MOTION BY ALDERMAN VITALE TO AMEND O-10-44 IN ITS ENTIRETY BY REPLACING IT WITH THE
GOLDEN ROD COPY PROVIDED WITH THE AGENDA
ON THE QUESTION
President McCarthy
Alderman Vitale did you want to…
Alderman Vitale
I am going to defer to you to answer Alderman Chasse’s question.
President McCarthy
With the board’s indulgence, I will answer that from here. The amendment changes the ordinance to
require a 400’ setback in the zones in question for communications towers. Looking at the sites that have
been in question and the sites where we already have towers in residential zones, this amendment would
solve the problem for the sites that have been questions but not create any non-conforming uses in the
existing towers.
Alderman Chasse
The new tower that went up at the Camp Doucette off of Ridge Road, is that 400’?
President McCarthy
That would comply yes.
Alderman Chasse
Thank you.
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President McCarthy
The motion is to amend.
MOTION CARRIED
MOTION BY ALDERMAN VITALE FOR FINAL PASSAGE OF O-10-44 AS AMENDED
ON THE QUESTION
Alderman Deane
So basically when I look at B under standards: “No special exception application shall be approved by the
Zoning Board of Adjustment unless the communications tower complies with the criteria established in
Subsections C through L of this section. The Zoning Board of Adjustment may waive the requirements of
Subsections C (location) and E (height) to the extent necessary to resolve any gap in service where
required by the Federal Telecommunications Act of 1996. The Administrative Officer shall provide
notification as required by RSA 12-K:7(I).” What does that mean? Does that mean they can’t accept an
application? Are we dictating the terms to what they can and can’t apply an application for? Is that what
this states?
President McCarthy
Actually we are and were allowed to because it is a special exception. We’re allowed to put criteria on the
acceptance of special exceptions. The Zoning Board of Adjustment would always have the opportunity to
override that if a variance request came in anyway, but for special exceptions we have a number of cases
where we say you can do this is the Zoning Board of Adjustments approves it, but it must meet this set of
criteria.
Alderman Deane
This change doesn’t actually take away the ability for these towers to continue to go up.
President McCarthy
No.
Alderman Deane
It makes it a little more difficult.
President McCarthy
It requires that they meet a set of criteria to locate them in those zones.
Alderman Deane
And under the Federal Telecommunications Act of 1996 what is that?
President McCarthy
The Telecommunications Act of 1996 was the Federal act that enabled the providing of wireless services
such as PCS telephone services. One of the sections of the Telecommunications Act, I believe it is Section
704, created a Federal prohibition on local zoning ordinances that preclude the positioning of towers. We’re
essentially allowed to put reasonable criteria on where they may be located, but we can’t simply ban them.
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Alderman Deane
So this falls under the parameters of reasonable criteria?
President McCarthy
I believe so.
Alderman Deane
Legal signed off on it right?
President McCarthy
Yes.
Alderman Deane
So in their opinion it falls under?
President McCarthy
That was the opinion of Attorney Clarke yes.
Alderman Deane
Thank you.
President McCarthy
The motion is for final passage of O-10-44 as amended. Is there any further discussion?
MOTION CARRIED
Ordinance O-10-44 declared duly adopted as amended.
O-11-76
Endorsers: Alderman-at-Large Ben Clemons
Alderman Michael J. Tabacsko
Alderman Jeffrey T. Cox
Alderman-at-Large Lori Wilshire
Alderman Diane Sheehan
ESTABLISHING A COMMITTEE AND FUNDING PLAN FOR DOWNTOWN IMPROVEMENTS
Given its second reading;
MOTION BY ALDERMAN CLEMONS TO AMEND O-11-76 IN ITS ENTIRETY BY REPLACING IT WITH
THE GOLDEN ROD COPY PROVIDED WITH THE AGENDA
ON THE QUESTION
Alderman Clemons
I would be happy to answer Alderman Chasse’s anticipated question.
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Alderman Chasse
Thank you.
President McCarthy
We are going to do this jeopardy style this evening.
Alderman Clemons
The change comes in the first paragraph. It starts with the sentence: “Beginning in 2013, if at the end of
the year the parking revenue shall fall below $1,128,000 or exceed $1,378,000, the board of aldermen shall
review the amount of $728,000 above, but not decrease it, and adjust that amount as necessary.” That was
the sentence that was added and essentially what that does is it puts in a review mechanism for the Board
of Aldermen to review this should the funding either fall below our expectations or way above them. In
addition to that it says that we should not decrease the $728,000 amount as well. Those are the
amendments.
President McCarthy
Is there any further discussion of the motion to samend?
MOTION CARRIED
MOTION BY ALDERMAN CLEMONS FOR FINAL PASSAGE OF O-11-76 AS AMENDED
ON THE QUESTION
Alderman Pressly
Thank you Mr. President. I have struggled with this concept for a long time. As you know this started out
two years ago, the idea was there would be a special tax placed on the people who own the buildings
downtown and somewhere along the line it has been really altered or the only piece of it that is really before
us now has to do with the consumer. The full burden of raising the money or adjusting to the change rests
with the people who use the Main Street. This troubles me a lot. The idea was that there would be other
people participating in contributing to this fund. There is some talk well maybe that will come later, but as of
right now it is not part of the funding.
It is a very very complicated plan. At this time we don’t know what sort of revenue it is going to bring in, the
police department is struggling to try to figure out how to implement it, there is already an amendment to the
plan that is going to committee now. The original plan itself has not even been finalized. I am concerned
that it also appears as though we do have a committee downtown, the Great American Downtown that does
a lot of this. It is unclear what is going to happen with them. Do we need two or do we not?
I would support tabling this and waiting to see what the amendments to the whole plan come in at. Without
having that figured out first I cannot support this at this time. I would like to commend the people who have
worked hard on this. They have put in many hours. I know they mean well, but the full burden as of this
point rests with the consumer trying to figure out this whole new complicated parking plan.
I also at the same time totally support fixing the downtown. The sidewalks, we need a lot of work down
there. I have also been lead to believe that this is not an enforceable plan, any future board can undo this
very quickly. I cannot support this at this time. If someone would table it I would support that and hold it
back until we see what is going to happen with the main project, the whole parking plan that is already
looking to be changed. Thank you.
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Alderman Tabacsko
Thank you Mr. President. I’m not even sure where to begin. I don’t think this is complicated at all. I also
don’t think that the concept of a BID District was the original thing that came from Great American
Downtown I would point out and then a committee was formed, and it was soon very clear that a BID District
by itself was going to be untenable in that the amount of money that would need to be raised through that
tax on that amount of property would be something that wasn’t practical. There is still, in the final
recommendations and they are final recommendations from the Services Advisory Committee that has been
presented to this board and accepted by this board, their recommendation is to create a BID District that
raises a relatively small amount of money. I think it is somewhere on the order of about $50,000 would be
raised through that BID tax. That simply needs legislation to be enacted. The people who are stakeholders
and property owners who would be paying that tax have expressed their willingness to accept that as part of
the program, at least some of them. I certainly don’t mean to say that is for everyone, but I know for the
downtown property owners that are on the Services Advisory Committee that was the case.
Again, I’m baffled constantly by the characterization that this is complicated. We created three tiers of
parking zones. The premium spaces are the most expensive, the next zone is about the same as we are
now, and the further out zone is less expensive. It is quite simple. It will be signed, it will be color-coded,
and it will actually be a great improvement over what it is now. It is also going to expand the hours of
enforcement, but that has nothing to do with this piece of legislation in front of us tonight, that is a separate
piece of legislation and that amendment, there was some cleanup that needed to be done and that is what
is coming back through. The original ordinance has been passed.
This simply creates the mechanism by which there will be some amount of money from the increased
parking revenues that will be dedicated to downtown improvements so that the people who are parking
downtown and paying this cost will directly benefit from it, and this is the way to demonstrate to those
stakeholders that they are getting something back for their money.
I think it is quite simple. I hope that we are not going to stick our head in the sand and say oh it is too
complicated, I can’t understand it, so let’s just send it back to committee and not do anything. Do nothing
costs us money every day. We need to get this piece passed, the amended ordinance that is coming
behind it on the parking piece. We need this in place so that we can start generating some revenue so that
we have some money to spend downtown. The longer we drag this on the longer things are going to
deteriorate and the longer it is going to be before we get a plan together to get anything done.
I urge my colleagues to vote in favor of this tonight. Thank you.
Alderman Cookson
Thank you. I’m not sure where to begin either. I will try to start with your last statement, the previous
speaker’s last statement, which is we need to start now because if we don’t start now we are going to lose
money. According to this particular ordinance, O-11-76, it starts with the FY2013 budget…
Alderman Clemons
That is incorrect.
Alderman Cookson
Anybody is more than welcome to speak after I have given up the floor. But at this point, as I am reading
this paragraph “starting with the FY2013 budget an amount equivalent to the sum of any parking revenue
received over and above the $728,000 shall be appropriated annually.” Fiscal year 2013, and it actually
starts, it uses the calendar year January 1st through December 31st so it is the FY2013 budget, and that is
when it starts.
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Now, the other part about O-11-71 being simple and O-11-71 was the parking district ordinance, it is
supposed to simplify things. Unfortunately or fortunately I guess I should say Alderman Wilshire and I were
invited to speak with Deputy Chief Howe as well as several parking enforcement officers this morning. I
think we sat there for close to an hour and a half and we really looked at O-11-71. O-11-71 never should
have been brought out of committee, it never should have been passed by this Board of Aldermen until the
police department, the people that we are asking to enforce it had an opportunity to review it and respond to
it.
That request was made by me at the last Infrastructure Committee meeting and the Chairman of that
committee chose to take it out of committee at the next Board of Aldermen meeting so on a Wednesday
evening we tabled the legislation, the following Tuesday night, and in fact even before that, that Friday we
received a memo in our packets saying there was the intention to pull it out of committee. It was pulled out
the following Tuesday evening and as has been stated there are corrections that need to be made to that
particular ordinance. After the conversation that Alderman Wilshire and I had with the parking enforcement
officers today and their supervisors, there are going to be several more corrections that need to be made to
that particular ordinance. I don’t want to go through the laundry list of what we had, but whether it be
parking garages having two hour time limits, the library actually has two zones within the library lot; a ten
hour zone and a two hour zone, but this particular ordinance would limit it to a single two hour zone. It is
also broken out into east and west lot in the library. There is no east and west lot, it is north and south, but
again there are things that should have been discussed and deliberated in committee that were not.
Several of these streets appear in all three zones. Factory Street has all three zones so within a couple
hundred feet the price changes from zone 1 to zone 2 to zone 3. Main Street has two zones, Spring Street
has two zones, Temple Street has two zones, West Pearl Street has two zones, Spring Street has two
zones. It is not easy. In fact, it is very complicated. And the people that we are asking to enforce this
actually have to walk around with the piece of legislation because it is unintelligible.
When you get to this particular point on this particular street it changes zones. There are actually parking
meters that are going up in front of apartments and homes. You actually have to pay to park at your own
residence. If we had had this conversation with the police department in committee, if we had even had the
common decency to extend an invitation to the police department and given them the resolution prior to and
have them react to it, all of this could have been resolved in a very timely and conscientious manner. We
did not do our due-diligence. We are asking our law enforcement officers to enforce something that is not
enforceable. We should have done more work.
ERP is not the savior. It is not the Panacea. In fact, the hand held devices that the parking enforcement
officers use don’t talk with ERP. In that system it is already pre-programmed your ticket is going to cost this
much. It is a $10 fine for your ticket and they print it out. There is no way for that enforcement officer to go
back and find out if this car has received 1 ticket, 2 tickets, 3 tickets, 4 tickets. I’m not even going to get into
after hours. Certainly they could call somebody, but now as we are extending our hours beyond 5:00 p.m.,
nobody in City Hall is going to pick up a phone and say this person this is their third ticket, and even if they
did the parking enforcement officers couldn’t give a ticket that corresponded with the appropriate rate
because their software is programmed in a certain way.
Four tickets in a year was suggested be a small number. Some people get four tickets in a week. What if
you contest a ticket? You can contest a ticket. Does that count towards your four tickets and your 5th ticket
you get towed or your 4th ticket you get towed? What if you pay all of your fines do you still get towed on the
4th or 5th ticket? These are conversations that we had this morning with the parking enforcement officers.
They raised the points, they raised the concerns, they said that there is a smarter way to do it. Alderman
Wilshire and I are going to make sure that their voice is heard and that we propose those amendments that
are going to make this a better piece of legislation that make it enforceable and clear not just to the parking
enforcement officers but the consumers that you are asking to bear the cost. It needs to be clear to the
consumer.
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One other thing, as we are updating and modifying the heads of the meters to correspond with O-11-71,
apparently we have been proactive and we have actually flipped over the hours of operation and the time
that you need to feed the meter so the globe on top of the meter, you can see in and it says you need to pay
Monday through Friday between 8:00 a.m. and 5:00 p.m., that has been flipped over so the consumer right
now, today, has no idea when the meters are in operation, but fortunately for us it is generating more
revenue because they don’t know any better. They are feeding the meter on weekends now. They are
feeding the meters in the evenings because it does not communicate clearly to them the hours of operation.
Alderman Pressly brought up this point several weeks ago about in front of Main Street some businesses
you can’t do business within 90 minutes.
Alderman Tabacsko
Mr. President Point of Order please; this is about O-11-71. This has got nothing to do with O-11-76.
Alderman Cookson
It has everything to do with O-11-76.
Alderman Pressly
I agree.
Alderman Cookson
Everything. O-11-76…
President McCarthy
I will allow you to continue, but I’m not sure I understand how. The entirety of the discussion has been
about the mechanics of the meters not about this ordinance, which presupposes to set up how we are going
to expend the revenue.
Alderman Cookson
We don’t even know how O-11-71 is going to work.
President McCarthy
It is irrelevant to the way the revenue the distributed. Continue please, but…
Alderman Cookson
I absolutely agree with Alderman Pressly; O-11-71 if we could reconsider it this evening I think we should
and I think Alderman Wilshire is in support of that. It is not able to be reconsidered so we are going to make
the motions and the amendments to make it a better piece of legislation. We did it wrong and we need to fix
it. O-11-76 relies on O-11-71 for the revenue that is generated, and I don’t think we should take action on
that either until we straighten our house and make sure that we’ve got it correct.
Alderman Wilshire
Thank you. I was in support of the parking plan when it came forward. Unfortunately I wasn’t at every
meeting and didn’t participate as well as I probably should have. I was very disappointed to find out that the
police department and the enforcement people were never invited to the table. I was kind of surprised by
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that because they are the ones out there every day doing the job. Everything Alderman Cookson
mentioned are subjects that we did discus today. I think we will be bringing in some amendments to that.
President McCarthy
Alderman Cox would you relate the conversations you had with the police department regarding the…
Alderman Cox
First just a point of clarification, they were invited. The department did have the proposed ordinance and
parking enforcement did attend one of our Infrastructure meetings. The conversation with the Chief was we
have to wait and see what product you give us; once you approve an ordinance we will enforce it, and he
assured me that we will do whatever it takes. He said to me I understand the parameters; moving to 8:00
p.m., going Saturday so he had the proposed ordinance and said that we will do whatever it takes to make it
happen. But just to clarify once again we did have somebody here from the police department as I
extended to the committee that we had yet to have done that and I extended an invitation to the department
and somebody was here. Thank you.
Alderman Cookson
Thank you. I was at that committee meeting. We had a second shift supervisor that joined us that night
who had not received a copy of the resolution in question, had never seen it, didn’t have a chance to react
to it, and what was my motion that evening, to table the resolution so that we could go back and have the
police go back, review the resolution and see if there were any pitfalls that we should take into account. I’ve
got four pages of pitfalls that were delivered to us this morning. You invited a second shift supervisor to a
meeting on the very last night, and he had an hour at most to have a conversation with us with no idea what
the resolution stated at all. You didn’t talk…
Alderman Cox
Mr. President…
Alderman Cookson
…people were not…
Alderman Cox
…just a point of clarification…
Alderman Cookson
…parking enforcement officers…
Alderman Cox
…I invited someone from parking enforcement…
Alderman Cookson
…the parking enforcement officers…
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President McCarthy
Let Alderman Cookson finish please.
Alderman Cox
Well he just…
Alderman Cookson
…the parking enforcement officers…
Alderman Cox
…it is just…
Alderman Cookson
…the ones who actually work the street…
Alderman Cox
It would be nice if he would be accurate Mr. President.
Alderman Cookson
It would be nice if you would honor the rules of the Chamber and allow me to speak while I’ve got the floor
as well. While I’ve got the floor I will continue to say the parking enforcement officers, the ones that go out
there every single day between 8:00 a.m. and 5:00 p.m., the ones that we see every single day doing their
job, chalking tires, giving out tickets, they were not extended the invitation, the people that actually do the
job. That is what we needed to hear and that is what we hear this morning. I am very glad that Alderman
Wilshire and I were invited to join in that conversation because it was very enlightening. Thank you.
Alderman Cox
Just once again Mr. President I would just like to clarify that I extended to the police department to have
representation here from parking enforcement. That is who was sent. I didn’t invite that person particularly.
As well I would just like to inquire to how an invitation was made to Alderman Cookson and Alderman
Wilshire to go to this meeting regarding this ordinance.
President McCarthy
Alderman Cookson?
Alderman Cookson
Thank you. I would be happy to respond to that. After my radio show on Thursday afternoon, which the
parking enforcement officers listen to and we were talking about this particular ordinance 11-71, they
approached me as I was leaving the studio and for the next two hours I walked around with them between
1:00 p.m. and 3:00 p.m. I walked around with them and they said look at this, look at what your ordinance
does, this is unenforceable. Did you know that our parking garages and every surface lot in the City has a
sign that says you can only park in there between 5:00 p.m. and 7:00 a.m.? Every garage and every
surface lot in the City has a sign that people can only park in there from 5:00 p.m. to 7:00 a.m. Not during
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the day. So while we are trying to get people off of Main Street and while we are trying to get people to use
the parking garages we have signs that tell them park on the street.
That is how I was invited to today’s meeting because the parking enforcement officers saw me on the street,
they had a two hour conversation with me while I walked around with them all the way to the library lot,
down Temple, down Spring Street, and they showed me where people park with handicap stickers all day
long. This is how I was invited. They went to their superiors, they told them they had the conversation with
me, and Deputy Chief Howe invited me into the conversation this morning. That is how I was invited
because they reached out to me.
Alderman Wilshire
I was invited, I assume, because I am the Liaison from the board to the police department. I got an e-mail
saying that they were having a meeting regarding this ordinance with Alderman Cookson, would I like to
attend.
Alderman Pressly
Thank you. This was a two year effort, a two year study effort. Some of us were able to go. I know we
asked Aldermen Cox and Tabacsko to update us occasionally what was going on. The police were not
invited during those two years. Correct me if I’m wrong Alderman Cox, I was at that meeting and that was
the first time that the police had been invited in any way to be part of this two year study. I don’t think the
downtown merchants that worked on this even thought to talk to them at all. Although you did invite them it
was the last day of the last vote of a two year study.
I think it is a little bit misleading to give the impression that they were involved in this. They were asked to
comment on a finished product that they had had no opportunity to look at or have input with for a long time,
and then you decided just to not talk to them at all and go on and push it through. I think you need to clarify
that for two years they were not part of the study and you presented them with a final product and said what
do you think the last day before the vote. I think that needs to be clarified.
Alderman Clemons
Getting back to O-11-76…
Alderman Tabacsko
Thank you.
Alderman Clemons
…this is in regards to how the extra revenue is going to be put into place. Really the discussion about how
that extra revenue is going to be generated is sort of, while this, it sort of, and I don’t want to say it is
unrelated, but these are certainly two separate pieces of legislation, and since it sounds like it is going to be
a lively discussion tomorrow, I will only say for the record that I had wanted this to be passed first anyway
because I think it is important that we make a commitment to whatever we do downtown to make sure that
any extra revenue that is generated go to the downtown. If we pass this first and then there are several
amendments or whatever that are made to the original ordinance tomorrow night, that is fine by me because
at least we will have the mechanism to get whatever funds those are dedicated to where they are supposed
to be and we will have a plan in place to do that.
That is what this does. I think it is important that we get this passed this evening regardless of what
happens with the other piece of legislation. We have to have in place something that deals with what we
are going to do with that money, and people want to see that we are going to dedicate it to downtown. This
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is very important that we get this passed. For me, I think that this is better that we are passing it before we
have a finalized product because it is showing our commitment first, and I think that is important.
Alderman Wilshire
Thank you. I’m going to support this amended version of 11-76. I thought it was a good idea early on and I
still think it is a good idea. I think 11-71 was a good idea I just think it needs a little bit of tweaking. I’m
going to support this, but I also intend to work with Alderman Cookson on some amendments to the prior
ordinance. Thank you.
Alderman Sheehan
Thank you. I’m also going to support it. Something I got brought into over the last week was an ongoing
discussion where a lot of people in the downtown area had questions as to why we would start changing the
parking rates before we had something set up and agreed that we would be using that money for the
downtown, which is what they wanted to see. I explained the State law process and why that couldn’t be
done, why this was set up with this piece of legislation, and that there were built in triggers to have it be
looked at on a regular basis if something happened and of course something can always be looked at
whenever, but it was a nice failsafe in there that there were triggers either for under-performance or over-
performance just like would happen in business. The people were very grateful for some answers.
I think there are a lot of people that don’t know all of the minutiae because it is a very long document, but it
should be very simple. I am going to support that. As a side note, if we have flipped the tops of the meters I
think those need to be flipped right back right away because people not knowing, and if it came to
someone’s attention, a meter maid that they were flipped I would have thought that they would have called
that in immediately and had that fixed because that isn’t right, and it was probably an accident or whatever.
But the long and the short is I think this is the horse that needs to go before the cart and we can make
adjustments on the other legislation. I have no problem with fine-tuning it. It is very difficult to do that on a
document without a map with dots all over it showing each and every meter. I think it will be clear as each
meter is labeled. I think the meter maid will have a very hard time not being able to follow if it is expired or
not expired. But regardless, this needs to pass first and I think people will feel a lot better once this is on the
books.
The rest can be worked out later, but I think this needs to get set up because we need to also start putting
together committee members. That is going to take a while as well. Regardless of when the funding starts
we need to have the people that this document also brings to the table. I will be supporting this.
Alderman Chasse
One statement; the cart before the horse. I kind of think that the horse is still back there. This is the cart.
This is not the horse. Once you put your meters up and you say this is a $.25 meter and that is a $.50
meter and that is a $1.00 meter and then I kind of say okay maybe it won’t generate the $728,000, maybe
after I do all of that math and everything it is only going to generate $500,000. You are picking the number
$728,000. This is definitely the cart not the horse. The other one with the metes and the prices and all of
that, is the horse. That is the horse that is going to generate these numbers. You arbitrarily picked
$728,000 and who knows you may pick up $200 million with the new…you never know what you are going
to do. Let’s get the numbers first from the horse. This is definitely the cart. I can’t support it. I would rather
see the horse first. Thank you.
President McCarthy
The motion is for final passage of O-11-76 as amended.
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A Viva Voce Roll Call was requested, which resulted as follows:
Yea: Alderman Clemons, Alderman Vitale, Alderman Craffey, Alderman LaRose, Alderman Tabacsko,
Alderman Melizzi-Golja, Alderman Cox, Alderman Sheehan, Alderman Wilshire,
Alderman McCarthy
10
Nay: Alderman Deane, Alderman Pressly, Alderman Chasse, Alderman Cookson
4
MOTION CARRIED
Ordinance O-11-76 declared duly adopted as amended.
NEW BUSINESS – RESOLUTIONS
R-11-140
Endorser: Mayor Donnalee Lozeau
Alderman Jeffrey T. Cox
AMENDING THE AGENT TO EXPEND ON THE FOUR EXPENDABLE TRUST FUNDS
THAT ACCEPT CONTRIBUTIONS FOR SIDEWALK CONSTRUCTION BY QUADRANT
Given its first reading; assigned to the PERSONNEL/ADMINISTRATIVE AFFAIRS COMMITTEE and the
BUDGET REVIEW COMMITTEE by President McCarthy
R-11-141
Endorser: Mayor Donnalee Lozeau
Alderman Mary Ann Melizzi-Golja
ESTABLISHING AN EXPENDABLE TRUST FUND TO ACCEPT CONTRIBUTIONS FROM
DEVELOPERS FOR TRANSPORTATION IMPROVEMENTS TO DANIEL WEBSTER HIGHWAY
AND SPIT BROOK ROAD AND TRANSFERRING EXISTING DEVELOPER CONTRIBUTIONS
INTO THE EXPENDABLE TRUST FUND
Given its first reading; assigned to the BUDGET REVIEW COMMITTEE by President McCarthy
R-11-142
Endorser: Mayor Donnalee Lozeau
RELATIVE TO THE ACCEPTANCE OF A CONFERENCE TABLE PURCHASED IN PART WITH
DONATIONS IN THE AMOUNT OF $3,500
Given its first reading; assigned to the BUDGET REVIEW COMMITTEE by President McCarthy
R-11-143
Endorsers: Mayor Donnalee Lozeau
Alderman-at-Large David W. Deane
Alderman-at-Large Mark S. Cookson
Alderman-at-Large Ben Clemons
Alderman Kathryn D. Vitale
Alderman Arthur T. Craffey, Jr.
Alderman-at-Large Barbara Pressly
Alderman-at-Large Lori Wilshire
Alderman Richard LaRose
Alderman Diane Sheehan
Alderman Michael J. Tabacsko
Alderman Paul M. Chasse, Jr.
Alderman Mary Ann Melizzi-Golja
Alderman Jeffrey T. Cox
Alderman-at-Large Brian S. McCarthy
NAMING THE LITTLE LEAGUE FIELD AT LYONS PARK “RICHARD P. FLYNN MEMORIAL FIELD”
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Given its first reading; assigned to the PERSONNEL/ADMINISTRATIVE AFFAIRS COMMITTEE and the
BOARD OF PUBLIC WORKS
NEW BUSINESS – ORDINANCES - None
PERIOD FOR GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT
Geoff Daly, 48 Walden Pond Drive
Good evening. I’m here basically tonight to talk about a debacle that is about to occur with the development
of the Pennichuck land that was presented to the ZBA back in 2004. Pennichuck Southwood real estate
division as the sale of lot 51-8 for development for housing by Hayden Green for and on behalf of Messrs.
Prompt & Slattery. Many errors have occurred since 2004. During a ZBA meeting in 2004 a review was
undertaken with certain approvals to build a water tower and some residential development with future if so
planned as part of the RSA for the area lot 51-8.
Subsequently the ZBA and Conservation Commission were bypassed or had the application tabled or
placed for further review. Hayden Green on behalf of North Concord Street Properties LLC applied for in
February/March of 2011 for an AoT permit. An AoT permit is an Alteration of Terrain, which goes with an
application to build. The attached data was deficient in many topographical and hydrological details as
required by permit applicants and required by State and Federal law. Delineation of gulley areas within their
plans for development, no hydrological data was included showing any diurnal water flows, streams, pools,
ponds, trenches, drainage flows for storm water in the designated planned applicants permit request.
Based on the City of Nashua’s own GIS maps and contained within, the consultant report by the Rizzo
Company, Figure 4-1 and Pennichuck’s water map defining critical areas with defined buffer lots within the
lot F, please note the bog swamp area was never included. Recommended on the report by Rizzo was 300’
and contained in Lot F as defined in the report. This was left out of the AoT permit data. This area of Henri
Bourque Highway is defined by the EPA as critical wetlands and is within the defined watershed of the City
of Nashua. This is actually shown on the City of Nashua’s own watershed maps, and is defined on the
EPA.gov/safewatersmap and drink/contaminants maps 8-10, pages 38, 44 and 45.
The area is covered in numerous storm drain culverts and pipes all feeding from Concord Street, Henri
Bourque Highway. Pennichuck school property, Manchester Street, and uncontrolled runoff from the
Clovelly Apartments all draining directly into a clearly defined and identified on the GIS map as a critical
wetlands and natural water springs flowing to the supply pond soon to be under the City of Nashua’s
control.
The application of 2004 by Pennichuck Southwood Corp. does not contain any dredge, fill, or recontoring of
any section of lot 51-8 now or in the future. This was also left off the AoT data. Based on this brief
overview, I request the chamber take a question either today or next week for a full DES re-review of the
AoT due to the permit data deficiencies and the recent identification of diurnal water which by Federal EPA,
State and Federal statutes cannot be covered over or changed. They are part of the watershed aquifer
along with other non-covered or built upon surfaces.
One last point, we the people of Nashua have to pay for any problems in this area as we will own
Pennichuck. It is our future infrastructure at stake along with the water quality we will need to maintain
under future EPA mandates. You all have a responsibility to follow all and every regulation in place and
available to everyone to review. Extensive yes, but it is part of the Federal, State, and City data. Your
hands are not tied. Anything like this can be adjusted, rescinded or cancelled. Please do the right thing
now and not leave it to others in the future. Thank you.
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REMARKS BY THE MEMBERS OF THE BOARD OF ALDERMEN
Alderman Cookson
Thank you. I just wanted to say the last resolution that we considered this evening under new business,
Naming the Little League Field at Lyons Park “Richard P. Flynn Memorial Field”, is probably something that
should be done. It should be recognized, the great man that Dick was. I have had several conversations over
the past several weeks about Dick. I had one conversation this afternoon and the person relayed to me that
Dick was a gentleman and a gentle man, and I think that is just very appropriate for who he is, who he was,
who he represented; his constituents, his family. This ballpark is a small token of our appreciation, and I think
it is the right thing to do. Thank you.
Alderman Pressly
Thank you Mr. President. What committee would consider some of the information that was just presented
by Mr. Daly? I'm hearing a lot of this from different sources and it might be appropriate for a committee to
take a look at that and see if we can't get a request from DES or the Army Corps of Engineers or something
to sort of evaluate this. All of those studies are very very old that they are relying on.
President McCarthy
To the best of my knowledge, none of the things that pertain to the development of that lot, with the
exception of our approval of Pennichuck sale, are under the jurisdiction of this board. They are in the
jurisdiction of the Zoning Board of Adjustment and the Planning Board under the auspices of our planning
ordinances. So those are the …Mr. Daly sit down. I'm not ...
Geoff Daly
Mr. Chairman...
President McCarthy
...going to allow you to speak...
Geoff Daly
...Mr. Chairman please.
President McCarthy
...sit down. You are out of order Mr. Daly.
Geoff Daly
I'm sorry you are out of order sir because...
President McCarthy
Please turn the sound off.
Geoff Daly
...you have bypassed ...
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Alderman Pressly
I was just hoping there would be some arm of the City that could take a look at this and to certainly have a
request of DES or the Army Corps of Engineers or whatever.
President McCarthy
It is an issue for the Community Development Department and the land use boards to take up, and I would
encourage them to look at the allegations. We do not get to override land use decisions on the legislative
body for reasons that I suspect are very good ones from the State’s perspective.
Alderman Pressly
Mr. President, may I speak?
President McCarthy
Sure.
Alderman Pressly
I fully understand that but sometimes it is nice for a committee of our group to take a look and maybe request.
I know we have no power to make changes, but we certainly have the ability to speak and have a voice and
request something to be done. And if in fact any of the comments that I have been hearing about that that
land has changed tremendously in how it functions and the safety of the water supply since the reports were
written. Can we individually make requests or what would you recommend we do?
President McCarthy
You most certainly can contact Director Hersh and see what the Community Development Division is doing
and whether or not the applications that were filed were insufficient. I would encourage doing that. I will ask
her to do the same.
Alderman Pressly
Thank you.
Alderman Deane
Thank you. There was an editorial in the Telegraph the other day about the success of the baseball team at
Holman this year, and the statement that was made in there that the money garnered for rent of the facility
would be used to reduce the bond was incorrect, and should stand to be corrected. That money goes into a
fund that we established for maintenance, purchase or materials, and whatnot for the operations of the facility.
Not a nickel of it will go to the bond payments.
The other thing, I spent some time in front of the stadium with the baseball program and I got to meet some of
those guys. We have a fellow that volunteers in our program, in fact he has been volunteering for 23 years.
His triplet brothers all work for the solid waste department and Mark has maintained our scoreboard at our Cal
Ripken field for years, and he has been a season ticket holder to anything and everything in the stadium so
when Monday he came over to me and said I’ve got to get my ticket for Thursday’s game I said Mark things
are still in the works here; oh no I have to get my ticket, I have to get my ticket. He kept on me and on me so I
brought him over to the office and there were a couple of intern guys in there and I said Mark needs his ticket.
These guys didn’t know what to do.
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They couldn’t figure out the computer program, they couldn’t get the printer to work. The guy spent an hour
and after an hour he spit out the ticket. He got the ticket machine to work and he got Mark his ticket. Then he
asked Mark for his $6 and Mark said he didn’t have any money on him. So I gave Mark the $6 to buy his
ticket. But that was the kind of thing that these guys that are in there now they did. They appreciate Mark
because he is there 2 hours before every game. That is the type of service that they provided and to make
sure that Mark got his ticket and Mark was happy. It is good the type of baseball that those kids played in
there and the interest that the community had. You could see, through my time spent at our baseball field,
you could see the increase in the folks. I can always tell when there is a good crowd because when you start
getting cars parked down Sargents Avenue you know there is are over 1,000 people in there.
I think next year will be even better. I think they will learn from some of their mistakes. I think they will get out
of the gate a little bit earlier. The other thing is that stadium had a tremendous amount of use this year,
tremendous. There was some of the weather that we had and I think the folks that work in there did a great
job maintaining the place. It is pretty beat down right now, but if you look at what went on; we had that State
legion tournament there on the three hottest days of the year and their turf grass was just yearning for water
and they had game after game after game. They had four games. It was good to see that the facility was
used, and I am starting to see a lot of folks back there that pretty much boycotted everything that went on
there. They have all come back. It is a good thing. Thank you.
Alderman Vitale
Tomorrow at 6:00 p.m. at Starbucks I will have a constituent coffee for the residents of Ward 1 for anybody
that would like to stop by and have any discussion at all. Thank you.
Alderman Clemons
Thank you. I too want to congratulate the Silver Knights and the organization. I thought this year was a great
season. I went to several games. That is some really good baseball. There is some really good talent. The
atmosphere was back to what it was when the Pride was there. There was a lot of excitement. That is what I
like. It is kind of sad that it is all over with because it was great to go to those games on an evening and just
have fun. I’m looking forward to it already for next year. I just want to say it is a top notch organization and
they certainly deserve the win. I’m proud to say that Nashua has baseball again.
President McCarthy
I was actually very glad to see baseball back at Holman. I didn’t get to go to a lot of games, and it appeared to
cause rain every time I tried. I’m hoping that doesn’t continue to next year. I look forward to the next season
as well.
I would like to wish happy upcoming birthdays to City Clerk Paul Bergeron on August 17th, Deputy City Clerk
Patricia Piecuch on August 27th, to Alderman Cookson the following day on August 28th, and to Alderman
Melizzi-Golja on September 8th.
Committee announcements:
Alderman Wilshire
The Human Affairs Committee meeting scheduled for Monday, August 15th will be cancelled since there is
no new business before us.
Alderman Cox
The Committee on Infrastructure will meet tomorrow evening at 7:00 p.m. right here in these chambers.
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Alderman Tabacsko
The Planning & Economic Development Committee meeting for next Tuesday, after consulting with
Alderman LaRose and seeing nothing on the agenda, we are going to cancel that one.
Alderman Clemons
The Personnel/Administrative Affairs Committee meeting is cancelled for Thursday.
ADJOURNMENT
MOTION BY ALDERMAN LAROSE THAT THE AUGUST 9, 2011 MEETING OF THE BOARD OF
ALDERMEN BE ADJOURNED
MOTION CARRIED
The meeting was declared adjourned at 9:10 p.m.
Attest: Patricia Piecuch, Deputy City Clerk
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