Aldermen, Board of
Regular MeetingNashua, NH · September 22, 2015
Minutes
A regular meeting of the Board of Aldermen was held Tuesday, September 22, 2015, at 7:30 p.m. in the
Aldermanic Chamber.
President David W. Deane presided; City Clerk Patricia D. Piecuch recorded.
Prayer was offered by City Clerk Patricia D. Piecuch; Alderman June M. Caron led in the Pledge to
the Flag.
The roll call was taken with 15 members of the Board of Aldermen present.
Mayor Donnalee Lozeau and Corporation Counsel Stephen M. Bennett were also in attendance.
REMARKS BY THE MAYOR
Mayor Lozeau
I would begin by saying that it’s really wonderful to say the Pledge of Allegiance with students in the
audience. Thank you for standing and sharing that with us. I will move on to two items that are on the
agenda this evening. We have the purchase of 141 to 143 Burke Street and I just want to point out that I
think this is a remarkable opportunity for this city, both for the consolidation of our public works as well as
our proximity to the wastewater treatment plant and what that means for what is next for this city and our
responsibilities. It’s not often that we have something that is so well suited to service the city’s need in a
location where it can really make a difference so I am pleased that is on the agenda tonight and as most
of you know that was passed by the Board of Public Works, the Infrastructure Committee, the Budget
Review Committee and the Nashua City Planning Board all with very favorable reviews. Secondly, I
wanted to take a moment to talk about the Franchise Agreement that’s on tonight’s agenda. I am
concerned about some of the conversation that has taken place around it. I don’t see eye to eye with
some of the concerns that have been raised. I can assure you that it was thoroughly vetted from our
perspective. We had members of the CTAB Committee that played a role in the negotiating team, as a
matter of fact; four of the five members of the negotiating team were CTAB members. My understanding
of the priorities were one of which I agree with and one of which I am somewhat ambivalent about. One
is that public access instead of being prohibitive to be able to use some of the franchise revenue that we
get…in the current contract we have with Comcast funds can only be used out of that 1% the way it’s
been distributed now for the government channel and the education channel. Sometime ago I had
spoken with Mr. Teeboom about the opportunity to take away that prohibition and allow those funds to be
spent for public, government and education. I supported that and I asked the negotiating team to
consider it. The second it that the CTAB Committee really wanted to see an increase in the amount of
money going into the special revenue fund that would pay for public, government and education which
you all have in your budget book. They changed it from 1% to 1.3%. They didn’t increase the overall
franchise fee which we should all know is a direct pass through to the people that watch cable television.
It was important to me and I hope too many of you after all the work that the committee did including over
900 surveys, a public hearing and multiple meetings that the one thing that people of course were
concerned about was the cost of their cable bill. It’s important for us to know that we cannot participate
in any of that. The federal government strictly regulates what we are and what we are not allowed to do
as a local municipality. We can put any amount of a franchise fee on somebody’s bill that comes to the
city and we can use it for particular purposes. Our share has always been 4% and under this agreement
it maintains that same 4% but it divides up what goes into the general revenue account and what goes
into the special revenue account. At the Finance Committee meeting there was some confusion
because there was a public presentation that talked about, I think it was more of an assumption that .5%,
.5% would go each to government and education and .3% would go the public access. In fact some of
us looked at the contract and I thought gee, maybe I just missed it. I didn’t miss it because it wasn’t in
the contract. The contract simply put the 1.3% in the special revenue fund. I support that and I believe
the Finance Committee supports that and the reason that we did it that way is because it should be the
Budget Review Committee of this Board that makes the determination of how those funds should be
shared between public, government and education. Currently our public access provider, who is a
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vendor with the city with a contract that is at $85,000 per year. They have maintained that price since
they started with the city. It is why we have not gone out to bid again. Should it go up, perhaps; should it
change, maybe. I don’t really know the answer to that but I can tell you that if we are going talk about
increasing that contract for the next budget year you probably would be well served to go out to bid and
see what others might have to offer. They were the low bidder the last time. The budget that was sent to
me by the current vendor proposed a budget of $157,000. While I have been a supporter of public
access I am not a supporter of that much of an increase for public access. When I think about the
competing demands in this city I am sure that I wouldn’t support spending more money in that manner
but I think that decision should be left to the Budget Review Committee. There’s been a lot of talk about
the process and I know that all of you have received information from our legal department and their
perspective on what the roles should be. I can assure you and would be happy at any time to show you
the process that was gone through. I believe the Director of IT has provided that memo to you about
how everything played out. In the final analysis I think we have something that serves our citizens well
and serves all three of the groups that are involved, public, government and education and think that it
puts the decision making in the right hands which is the Budget Review Committee. I would hope that
you would be comfortable passing that along this evening. The last thing that I will mention is that I was
fortunate enough to participate in an event at BAE yesterday where Ralph Baer received the (IEEE)
International Electronic and Electrical Engineers Recognition. He is a fellow in that group. For the kids in
the audience, we have a gentleman who worked for this city for a long time back when I was a little bit
younger than you and he was recognized and will be featured at the Smithsonian Museum for being the
inventor of the video games. He invented the first video game because he believed that television back
in those days was not being used to its full potential. Right there at Sanders which is now BAE, he was
the first one to invent something called the Magnavox Odyssey and that has been what has created
video games that have turned things around. I just think that it’s important to remember that we are so
fortunate here in Nashua to be a community of innovation and it’s because of individual ideas and visions
on what can happen that can really make a difference. Our small City of Nashua is recognized on the
world stage because of an engineer who had a small spark of an idea that will always be forever
remembered for changing the way we did video games. It was 1968 when the Magnavox Odyssey was
put into play. Thank you all for your very kind attention this evening.
RESPONSE TO REMARKS OF THE MAYOR - There were none.
RECOGNITION PERIOD
R-15-174
Endorsers: Mayor Donnalee Lozeau
Board of Aldermen
EXTENDING CONGRATULATIONS TO THE 2015 DESTINATION IMAGINATION
GLOBAL FINALISTS
Given its first reading;
MOTION BY ALDERMAN COOKSON THAT THE RULES BE SO FAR SUSPENDED AS TO ALLOW
FOR THE SECOND READING OF R-15-174
MOTION CARRIED
Resolution R-15-174 given its second reading.
MOTION BY ALDERMAN COOKSON FOR FINAL PASSAGE OF R-15-174
MOTION CARRIED
Resolution R-15-174 declared duly adopted.
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READING MINUTES OF PREVIOUS MEETING
MOTION BY ALDERMAN McCARTHY THAT THE MINUTES OF THE BOARD OF ALDERMEN
MEETING OF SEPTEMBER 9, 2015, BE ACCEPTED, PLACED ON FILE AND THE READING
SUSPENDED
MOTION CARRIED
COMMUNICATIONS
MOTION BY ALDERMAN CHASSE THAT ALL COMMUNICATIONS BE READ BY TITLE ONLY
MOTION CARRIED
From: Patricia D. Piecuch, City Clerk
Re: Record of Returns of the Mayoral Primary and Special Municipal Election
MOTION BY ALDERMAN CHASSE TO ACCEPT AND PLACE ON FILE THE RECORD OF THE
RETURNS AS SUBMITTED BY THE CITY CLERK FOR THE MAYORAL PRIMARY AND SPECIAL
MUNICIPAL ELECTION HELD SEPTEMBER 8, 2015; THAT THE ELECTION RESULTS FOR THE
CANDIDATES NAMED THEREIN BE DECLARED FINAL AND CONCLUSIVE; THAT THE TWO
CANDIDATES HAVING RECEIVED THE LARGEST NUMBER OF VOTES BE PLACED ON THE
BALLOT FOR THE OFFICE OF MAYOR FOR THE NOVEMBER 3, 2015, MUNICIPAL GENERAL
ELECTION; AND, THAT JOEL ACKERMAN HAVING RECEIVED THE LARGEST NUMBER OF
VOTES CAST BE DECLARED ELECTED TO THE OFFICE OF THE BOARD OF PUBLIC WORKS
FOR THE REMAINING TERM TO EXPIRE DECEMBER 31, 2015
MOTION CARRIED
President Deane declared Joel Ackerman duly elected to the Office of the Board of Public Works for a
term to expire December 31, 2015.
Oath of Office administered by Corporation Counsel.
From: Bruce R. Codagnone, CIO/IT Division Director
Re: (R-15-168) Comcast Franchise Agreement – Amended per Finance Committee
MOTION BY ALDERMAN MORIARTY TO ACCEPT AND PLACE ON FILE
MOTION CARRIED
PERIOD FOR PUBLIC COMMENT RELATIVE TO ITEMS EXPECTED TO BE ACTED
UPON THIS EVENING
Mr. Fred Teeboom, 24 Cheyenne Drive
I am speaking to you tonight with the experience of having been a founder together with former Director
John Barker of the Cable Television Studio that the city owns today. I want to address the Franchise
Agreement that the Mayor talked about earlier. There are a lot of problems with this agreement. First of
all, Nashua Revised Ordinance 12:18 specifically assign legal authority to CTAB to review and comment
on this agreement and that did not happen. CTAB voted the last time it met to ask the Finance
Committee to hold so it could have the Franchise Agreement referred to it and that the members could at
least read the agreement because most members had never even seen t. That referral did not happen.
The letter from the IT Director that you have was fine but it does not have legal authority in the Nashua
Revised Ordinances, only CTAB has. Only CTAB is named in the entire book of ordinances as having
the authority to review and comment and make recommendations to the Board of Aldermen and the
Mayor. They would have to act on those recommendations after CTAB had made them. The negotiating
team that the Mayor established of six members of which four were CTAB members, they also don’t
have the legal authority according to the Nashua Revised Ordinances to make final recommendations to
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the Board of Aldermen. They can negotiate, it’s the Mayor’s team but it cannot substitute for CTAB.
There is nothing in the ordinances that says anything about a negotiating team of any number, certainly
four members does not represent a subcommittee of fifteen members, it wasn’t even established by
CTAB. The Finance Committee to which this Board referred the agreement has absolutely no cable
television experience, none. If you look at the minutes it very clearly showed a bunch of confusion over
what that agreement was all about. There was no technical experience. There was no review by the
PEG manager’s. The Mayor asked why should the PEG managers look at this. Only the PEG managers
who are full-time employees or full-time contractors understand what is going on in the studio. It’s a
complex studio with a lot of equipment with a very complex network that connects sixteen different
buildings. The field operations over at Stello’s Stadium is not a trivial operation. Apparently I don’t
understand much of it and I helped establish it. Only the PEG managers can make judgements. I was
on CTAB for about six years the PEG managers were never consulted. None of the other cities in the
State of New Hampshire were asked what they did with the renewed Franchise Agreement’s. I know
because I checked with some of the cities. Finally there was no detailed financial analysis made of what
you really need. The IT Director’s recommendation said he made it seven years and if we adjusted the
thing from seven to ten years, that’s not a financial analysis. A financial analysis is one of need. What is
it that you have and what is it that you need for the next seven years on this contract because once you
sign it you are locked in. The experience with Comcast is once they have it signed they will not budge
one lever of that contract. 1.3% is proposed now which basically leaves – if you think about it is ½ %
currently and roughly it goes to the E channel and ½% goes to the G channel and leaves 3/10%, which
represents $90,000 to the public access channel. That is not enough; they should at least each have
½ %. That still leaves for the city over $850,000 for general revenue purposes. Many cities in
Massachusetts take 100% of the franchise fees and in this city we are talking about 1 ½ % and 2 ½ %
going back to the city. So we are talking about $450,000 to operate all of these three channels and
$850,000 to the city to pay for God knows what. Not for cable television. I called Manchester and asked
what they spent, it was interesting because they $451,000, just about the same amount as Nashua;
1.5% not 1.3%. They have the same staffing; it’s very interesting, four full-time and two part-time people
to operate three channels around the clock seven days a week. We are asking for $450,000. What does
Manchester do that Nashua doesn’t do? R-09-166, I know it well because I sponsored it initially
established initial funding for the public access channel and guess how much it was? It was $106,000,
Cookson would know that. They asked that it be funded for $90,000 in the next seven years. It seems to
me that you should give them…I agree with the Mayor, let the Budget Review Committee look at the pink
pages and look at the special revenue funds and see if they want to figure it out. They ought to at least
have equal share, you don’t want an unequal share because it is going to create serious problems. We
are talking about $60,000 in difference between the 1.3% that’s in there now and the 1.5% that we ask
for. The Mayor talks about the franchise fee, right now the city requires 4% and that represents about
$4.00 on your cable bill every month. To go to 5% it would go to $5.00. Most every city including
Concord and Manchester is 5%. Why does Nashua stick to this 4% for the next seven years? Who
negotiated that? What is your objective for keeping the same franchise fee? We are talking about $1.00
out of a typically $150.00 bill. There are technical issues. There is no high definition clause. We are
talking about a seven year operation with no high definition television. If you don’t put it in the agreement
you’ll never get it because Comcast will say it’s not in the agreement. There ought to be at least a clause
about high definition sometime in the seven years. The high definition server needs to be upgraded and
that’s going to cost about $120,000. The education channel is still an analog channel and that’s very
strange. The public and government channels are digital interface and education is still analog and that
should be fixed, that’s not a Comcast problem. They provide the modem interface and they haven’t
upgraded the education channel to digital. The franchise agreement proposes $201,000 and the current
one is $150,000; maybe it’s good and maybe it’s not but which is the correct number? There’s no
financial analysis anywhere on what their needs are. Finally, there are exhibits at the back of the
agreement, two, three, four and five which are the same exhibits that existed ten years ago. They need
to get fixed, nobody fixed it. I don’t know what this negotiating team did for one year; all they did was
adjust a couple of dollar figures. I can’t figure out what they did, maybe Alderman Moriarty can explain it
because he was on the team. I recommend in summary that this Board holds this Franchise Agreement,
R-15-168 at the Board level and send it to CTAB and tell CTAB to review it and then send back the
recommendations to the Board and they can decide what to do with the recommendation. That’s the
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process described in the Nashua Revised Ordinances and that’s a process that was not followed and it
should be followed and I urge you to follow that approach.
Mr. Dan Toomey, 10 Lantern Lane
I work in the field; I work in Lowell at the Community Access Center. We have four channels, one of
which run out of the high school and have a separate budget. We have two community stations and then
one government channel. We have a budget of almost $800,000 and that’s not including the budget that
the high school has. We have been in effect for about 25 years and we serve a demographic of largely
immigrants and refugees. We have one station that just services them. What public access does is that
it serves underserved communities meaning communities that commercial television can’t service
because of the fact that they have to make a profit. There are communities such as the arts community,
the immigrant refugee’s community, the non-profit communities and a number of other groups that are
serviced by community television. I wanted to give a contrast of what is going on down in Lowell which is
only 20 minutes from here and what’s going on here in Nashua. Thank you very much for support of our
community television station.
Ms. Paula Johnson, 15 Westborn Drive
I hate Comcast so the less money I have to give them the happier I would be. I am here to talk about R-
15-172 and I know that this is just going to pass and I understand the reasoning why we need that piece
of property. I understood why we wanted that property close to ten years ago where First Student is and
we didn’t buy it. Here are some of my concerns, I get it that the wastewater treatment plant is going to
have to be expanded but $4.2 million is a lot of money. We just had a debate here in May or June
regarding that we need a new health department and that didn’t happen. I mean the Mayor is leaving
and come January we are going to have a new Mayor, it could be somebody sitting in this chamber or an
outsider but why are we doing this now? Why isn’t the new Mayor having the chance to weigh in on
these things? Also, the $17 million that’s going to come up on road repair, why aren’t we going to hold
that off? Everything is being done at the last minutes. The end of the year everything has to be done
and rammed through. Some of my problems here are that we buy the building for $4.2 million, asbestos
remediation, here we go with this asbestos and reading from the minutes and I didn’t catch really what
Mr. Sullivan was saying last night, I wasn’t too happy when I caught the streaming this morning about
behaviors and attitudes. This could cost us “optimistic price to build out is probably $6 million but a more
realistic is probably $10 million which could mean that we’d spend about $14 million all in for everything
that has been described and what needs to be done with the building.” We’ve got this Broad Street
Parkway that’s coming on with our taxes. I didn’t want that parkway but the Board voted for it. We are
going to start running people out of the city. Our taxes have gone up about 20% to 24% in the last eight
years. You know, this is getting out of hand, we’ve got people on fixed incomes, do we understand what
fixed incomes mean? It means they are getting one income and they can’t go out and get another
income and there are people on social security and disability or maybe can only have one income in the
house. I know that I am not able to work right now due to illness; I had to quit my job so there’s one
income coming into my house right now. I think we have to start taking a look at our taxpayers and what
is our burden to be able to afford to pay our taxes. My taxes are over $5,000 per year now. When we
couple this with the Broad Street Parkway, we are going to buy this and what exactly is the true cost
going to be here? What is the true cost of the sidewalks now? What also bothered me was the streets
garage, I am proposing that be removed which opens up the opportunity for Conway Ice to build a
second sheet of ice over that reception area.” So that is our sports complex now and remember the
Aldermen that were on the Board when we gave that land to Conway, Alderman Wilshire, Alderman
Deane, Alderman McCarthy and myself; I voted against it. I believe they pay $1.00 per year. If Conway
wants this let’s sell them the property for fair market value and this way the amount of money that they
will pay us for this goes into this building that we are going to buy and it brings the cost down to the
taxpayers. That’s not a hard thing to figure out, that’s a good business decision. Don’t give me that look
Alderman Siegel, I don’t appreciate it. Be respectful. I am asking the Board to please consider this, if
you are going to give the sheet of ice to Conway, if this is one of the reasons why we are doing this make
them pay for the land and also consider the cost. What is it going to cost to retrofit that new building
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down there if you are going to bring all your lifts and everything out of the garage, the barn over there,
and move it down? We had to buy that building which is the administration building right now and it had
a lot of issues with mold but we could have bought the building right now that housed First Student and it
wouldn’t have cost us all of this money. Thank you.
Mr. Dick Gagnon, Operations Manager, Access Nashua
I would like to begin by publicly thanking Mayor Lozeau for taking the initiative to establish a public
access channel here in Nashua and through her efforts and the approval of the Aldermen at the time;
Access Nashua was established on July 1, 2011. My company was hired to operate and manage it and
since then, Access Nashua has become a community of innovation. This is bragging but it’s honestly the
truth. Other public access channels around New Hampshire do not have the quality that we have in
Nashua. Since December 1, 2011, which is when our first show was recorded, we have produced over
54 series totaling over 1,300 episodes. We are talking about almost one show a day. At the present
time we have about fifteen shows that are actively producing episodes of which eleven of them are
almost every week. I’d also like to say that in the four plus years that we have been in operation, we’ve
only had one complaint from the Mayor and the Aldermen and that was our Hands-Up Project which was
on our website that automatically e-mailed the Aldermen and the Mayor and we heard comments to
please tell them to stop and we heard and we stopped. Our slogan is “It’s Your Station.” It’s not myself
and my team members, it’s not our station, it’s your station and it’s a chance for people of the public to
give their views and opinions and share their interests with other people. At the CTAB meeting it was
said that they were putting in .3% for public to fund it and again, I want to thank everyone who has been
instrumental in getting us protected by being in the Franchise Agreement. There was a budget put
forward, which as Mr. Teeboom said would equal anywhere from $90,000 to $95,000, however what we
are talking about is for the next seven years. Our budget would have to be roughly around that area
unless the Budget Review Committee the way it is set up now would determine that education doesn’t
need as much or government doesn’t need as much and we will pass it on to the public channel. I’m not
sure that will happen and that’s the reason that I am here requesting that you seriously take a look at a
1.5% paid share of the franchise fee so that the three channels could be budgeted equally and we can all
perform our jobs to the best of our abilities. Another item that is not in the Franchise Agreement and I
should also mention that I am the past president of the New Hampshire Coalition for Community Media
and have been on the Board for many years, and I also worked with Pete Johnson who is your education
channel director and Dottie Grover who is the mother of public access. We worked on Franchise
Agreement’s to come up with a sample template that towns and cities could use and I do know that Pete
had mentioned to the committee members and to the powers that be that there were two workshops on
Franchise Agreement’s because it’s not an easy thing. I don’t know if the members attended or not. In
looking over the agreement that is in front of you today, one of the other items that’s not in there is HD.
We are talking again about a seven year agreement. Seven years ago DVD’s replaced VHS. HD in
seven years isn’t even going to be the normal. Apple is coming out with a little camera on their IPhone
that’s going to shoot ultra HD and here we are with standard def. I would recommend that you insert in
the Franchise Agreement a stipulation with Comcast that if any station in the State of New Hampshire
receives a HD channel that the City of Nashua automatically get an HD channel as well. I know we can’t
dictate it but you need to cover yourselves. Another thing also is about the 4% franchise fee. The max
that you can legally ask for is 5%. I understand the Mayor’s thinking of keeping it at the 4% however, a
clause should be put into the agreement that stipulates that at any time during the seven years if the city
warrants and agrees that they should request an increase whether it’s ½% or 5% up to the 5% that they
can just be allowed to do that with a letter in writing to Comcast. I think the agreement needs a little
more looking at. Thank you and respectfully I hope you will consider raising the 1.3% to 1.5%.
Ms. Kathy Merrin-McCoy, 4 Birch Hill Drive
I am here as a resident of Nashua. I have lived here for 43 years and I watch Access Nashua, I enjoy it
and I think the quality of it is unbelievable. I saw an advertisement looking for volunteers for the station
so I was never in the studio until about six months ago. I really liked the way the television shows looked
so I thought it would be interesting and fun. I was stunned at what they produced because for that
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amount of money I don’t understand how anything can operate. I started looking at other public access
stations throughout New Hampshire and they reminded me of the old stereotype of public television and
this was not the old stereotype as it reminded me of real television. My message is that I really enjoy it
and I can’t believe it only gets $85,000. Hopefully this will be looked at and reviewed and somebody can
realize that you are making a big mistake if you only give them that budget increase. Thank you.
Mr. Ken Gidge, 22 Hayden Street
I am one of many of your state representatives and my wife is also a state representative. I don’t always
agree with Fred Teeboom and hardly ever do but ten years ago it was Fred Teeboom, myself and one
other person and you people were ready to sign a contract with Comcast. We stood up and said really
loud, don’t do it. We said look we need one more channel so we can have a public access television
station and it made such a raucous that I believe that they turned the T.V. off and I believe they turned
the sound off. When it came back on and we were talking about, Alderman Bolton asked did if anyone
ever went to the meetings and asked for another channel and he said no. I stood up and said yes I did.
Finally they stopped the meeting signing the contract and then two days later Comcast said sure, we’ll
give you another channel. When I hear something about HD, while it is a big deal the way things are
going so fast it isn’t. In fact it may cost more later just to catch up because we will be two steps behind.
Public access is so important. After the contract was signed you didn’t finance it for four years I believe.
The first show that was taped was with the former Mayor Bernie Streeter, Richard Gagnon and myself. I
just got a bill through the committee, it went through the House and Senate and the Governor signed it
and I’m going to be the chair of 279 which is to study the economic impact of arts and culture in the
State of New Hampshire. This is a big deal because this means that we have an opportunity for public
access to influence the entire state. Some of the shows that we will be doing on this will be shown on
other stations. When it comes down to financing, just understand this, you are getting great quality and
you are not paying as much as everyone else. It is an honor to stand here and talk to you and I thank
you very much for giving me the time.
Mr. David Robbins, State Representative
As I look around I see some faces that I have seen on television and I’ve seen them on Access Nashua.
I am a political junkie so I think of the political aspect of this and one of the things that I really love about
community access television is the ability to really drill down on a very local level. Where else can local
officials come on and have a forum to present, debate and be questioned about their beliefs. The
democratic process is tremendously important. This is where our lives are lived, in Nashua and the folks
that represent us, you folks, are in many ways the most important representatives that we have because
you have the impact on our lives. I would ask you to keep that in mind. I would suggest to you that
based on what you heard tonight and what I suspect you will hear that maybe it’s time to take another
look and look at what the consequences may be. Doing that might be prudent and useful. Thank you
very much.
Ms. Lisa Law, 78 Concord Street
I just wanted to speak tonight in support of public access. I worked for ten years in public broadcasting;
as a television producer at channel 9 and channel 11 and also at Manchester Community Television. It
is a gem to have the resources that we have at the public access station here in Nashua. I started
producing a show about six months ago featuring different people in the community doing positive things.
In one of my shows which we put all on You Tube and I’ve had about 600 views worldwide so the impact
that we have is not only creating a positive atmosphere in our city but we also have the ability to impact
people across the world and have them think more positive thoughts. Please look deeper into these
decisions tonight and if you can put off the vote please do so and do some more research. We don’t
want to make decisions tonight that will impact the creativity and innovation going on down there.
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Ms. Denise McIntosh, 35 Edmond Drive
I also produce a show with Access Nashua and it is called Fairytale Access and we’ve had some great
success with it. We have children that come in from the city as hosts. Our shows have 1.8 million
viewers when we share it across the United States. We are in 109 countries because they like the
concept of the show and the way the station operates. This past March we were invited to Egypt to do a
show there. The biggest concern that I have with what happened with this contract is that it didn’t go
through the CTAB that you have set up and that sends the wrong message. If you have a CTAB then
they should be able to look at it and give you their recommendations. Moreover, if you are giving
something back to Comcast, we are not getting a break on our bill so you should use all of the funds that
you have available so they can upgrade equipment and show the great things we do in Nashua. We are
on travel lists all over the place and it just brings in more business. Thank you so much for your time.
Senator Kevin Avard, 68 Bartemus Trail
I host two shows; one is called the Gate City Chronicles and the other is Speak Up. We’ve done about
260 shows and we have about 71,000 views and these views range from Egypt to Australia and it puts
Nashua on the map. Local businesses can come on the show and say come take a look. Nashua is
building into their infrastructure with new sidewalks and the parkway. Part of the infrastructure is your
local access and I strongly believe that allows you a huge trophy to put on your shelf. We have one of
the most premier local access shows in the state. We have the capability of high definition. People can
come on our show and be heard. Kids can come in high school and junior high school and learn how to
edit for free. It’s putting in action what we have here in education. You can apply it and it doesn’t cost
the individual anything. High definition is one of those things that will be gone tomorrow it will be ultra. I
would strongly urge you to at least consider holding off to re-look at this and maybe adding to this
infrastructure. Thank you very much for your time.
PETITIONS – None
NOMINATIONS, APPOINTMENTS AND ELECTIONS
Joint Convention with Edgewood Cemetery Board of Trustees
MOTION BY ALDERMAN MCGUINNESS THAT THE BOARD OF ALDERMEN MEET IN JOINT
CONVENTION WITH THE EDGEWOOD CEMETERY BOARD OF TRUSTEES FOR THE PURPOSE
OF ELECTING TWO TRUSTEES
MOTION CARRIED
President Deane called for nominations.
Trustee Maffee nominated Hollis Harrington and Kevin Slattery for five-year terms to expire March 31,
2020
MOTION BY ALDERMAN CARON TO CLOSE THE NOMINATIONS
MOTION CARRIED
A Viva Voce Roll Call vote was taken on the appointment of Hollis Harrington and Kevin Slattery to the
Edgewood Cemetery Board of Trustees for terms to expire March 31, 2020, which resulted as follows:
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Yea: Alderman McCarthy, Alderman Dowd, Alderman Schoneman, 20
Alderman Chasse, Alderman Caron, Alderman McGuinness,
Alderman Cookson, Alderman Soucy, Alderman Donchess,
Alderman Moriarty, Alderman Siegel, Alderwoman Melizzi-Golja,
Alderwoman Brown, Alderman Wilshire, Alderman Deane,
Trustee Douglas Barker, Trustee Norman Hall, Trustee Morgan Hollis
Trustee Thomas Maffee, Mayor Lozeau
Nay: Trustee Carl Andrade, Trustee Allan Barker, Rev. James Chaloner, 5
Trustee Charles Hall, Mr. Hollis Harrington, Mr. Kevin Slattery
MOTION CARRIED
President Deane declared Hollis Harrington and Kevin Slattery duly appointed to the Edgewood
Cemetery Board of Trustees for a term to expire March 31, 2020. As Mr. Harrington and Mr. Slattery are
not present they will be sworn in at a later date.
MOTION BY ALDERMAN SOUCY THAT THE CONVENTION NOW ARISE
MOTION CARRIED
Appointments by the Mayor
The following Appointments by the Mayor were read into the record:
Conservation Commission
Sherry Dutzy (Reappointment) Term to Expire: December 31, 2018
18 Swart Terrace
Nashua, NH 03064
Richard Gillespie (Reappointment) Term to Expire: December 31, 2018
15 Spencer Drive
Nashua, NH 03062
Zoning Board of Adjustment
Jean-Paul Boucher (Reappointment) Term to Expire: September 11, 2018
8 Fox Meadow Road
Nashua, NH 03060
Mariellen MacKay, Alternate (New Appointment) Term to Expire: October 1, 2018
9 Webster Street
Nashua, NH 03064
MOTION BY ALDERMAN CHASSE TO ACCEPT THE APPOINTMENTS BY THE MAYOR AS READ
AND REFER THEM TO THE PERSONNEL/ADMINISTRATIVE AFFAIRS COMMITTEE
MOTION CARRIED
REPORTS OF COMMITTEE
Finance Committee............................................................................. 09/02/15
There being no objection, President Deane declared the report of the September 2, 2015
Finance Committee accepted and placed on file.
Board of Aldermen – 9/22/15 Page 10
Finance Committee............................................................................. 09/16/15
There being no objection, President Deane declared the report of the September 16, 2015
Finance Committee accepted and placed on file.
Committee on Infrastructure .............................................................. 09/10/15
There being no objection, President Deane declared the report of the September 10, 2015
Committee on Infrastructure accepted and placed on file.
Special Committee on Infrastructure .................................................. 09/14/15
There being no objection, President Deane declared the report of the September 14, 2015
Special Committee on Infrastructure accepted and placed on file.
Pennichuck Water Special Committee .............................................. 09/15/15
There being no objection, President Deane declared the report of the September 15, 2015
Pennichuck Water Special Committee accepted and placed on file.
WRITTEN REPORTS FROM LIAISONS - None
CONFIRMATION OF MAYOR'S APPOINTMENTS – None
UNFINISHED BUSINESS – RESOLUTIONS
R-15-110
Endorser: Mayor Donnalee Lozeau
ESTABLISHING AN EXPENDABLE TRUST FUND FOR STATE EMPLOYER PENSION COSTS
AND APPROPRIATING $2,730,000 FROM FUND BALANCE ASSIGNED FOR THIS PURPOSE
INTO THE EXPENDABLE TRUST FUND
Amended & Tabled – 2/24/15
R-15-155
Endorser: Mayor Donnalee Lozeau
AMENDING THE BY-LAWS OF ALL SUBSIDIARIES OF PENNICHUCK CORPORATION
Given its second reading;
MOTION BY ALDERMAN MORIARTY FOR FINAL PASSAGE OF R-15-155
ON THE QUESTION
Alderman Moriarty
I just thought I would mention a couple of things of what happened. There are several subsidiaries of
Pennichuck and they each have their own set of by-laws and the most impactful thing is that there is
going to be one set of by-laws for each of the individual subsidiaries so they will all be the same.
MOTION CARRIED
Resolution R-15-155 declared duly adopted.
Board of Aldermen – 9/22/15 Page 11
R-15-162
Endorser: Mayor Donnalee Lozeau
RELATIVE TO THE RE-APPROPRIATION OF FISCAL YEAR FY2016 ESCROWS
Given its second reading;
MOTION BY ALDERMAN SIEGEL TO AMEND R-15-162 IN ITS ENTIRETY BY REPLACING IT WITH
THE GOLDEN ROD COPY PLACED ON OUR DESKS THIS EVENING
ON THE QUESTION
Alderman Chasse
What is the difference between the original and the golden rod?
Alderman Siegel
There are two changes. The first one is to fund the police overtime expendable trust fund. As you recall we
created that trust fund and the decision was made to fund it later depending on what was left over from the
budget. In fact, the likelihood of there being additional money from the welfare department was the target.
This is in fact where the money is coming from and it is $90,000. The second thing is to amend the
engineering from transit to fund some of the Yudicky Farm changes, the southwest park at Yudicky Farm
access road improvements that we discussed previously.
MOTION CARRIED
MOTION BY ALDERMAN SIEGEL FOR FINAL PASSAGE OF R-15-162 AS AMENDED
ON THE QUESTION
Alderman Moriarty
What does downtown IC expenses 2014?
Mayor Lozeau
It stands for the Downtown Improvement Committee. That’s the amount beyond the $728,000 for calendar
year 14’.
President Deane
I will not be supporting this and I stated my reasons last night.
Alderwoman Brown
Would it be possible to allow Mayor Lozeau to comment on this if she so desires?
President Deane
If she would like to comment on the legislation she certainly can.
Mayor Lozeau
I would just say that this is the money that each year they are able to…it’s above the revenue of $728,000
for the parking meters and it’s the money that they often come in to the Budget Review Committee or the
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Finance Committee, depending on where it is with their recommendations of where they would like that
money to be spent.
Alderwoman Brown
I am concerned about taking monies out of welfare assistance, could you…
Mayor Lozeau
Alderwoman Brown, I thought that your question was relating specifically to the Downtown Improvement
Committee money. We are not taking money out of welfare assistance, it’s out of what was surplused not
spent appropriations this year. That’s where it came from so it doesn’t impact our current budget for
welfare assistance.
Alderwoman Brown
Thank you.
Alderman Cookson
I have a question about the Downtown Improvement Committee because I believe that the legislation was
originally intended to cover the $728,000 which we had to meet initially before anything over and beyond
that was allocated to the improvement committee. The $728,000 was put in place to cover the staffing of
downtown parking enforcement including payroll, benefits and overtime. Is that still correct?
Mayor Lozeau
The $728,000 was actually the number that was determined by the committee at the time to be the
minimum amount of revenue that was needed for that and then the amount above that came in because of
the increase in parking meters was what was used. If you are asking me right now off the top of my head if
I can tell you that the $728,000 covers the cost that you have outlined, I haven’t looked at it recently but it
has been covering that cost and I don’t think that those have increased at an amount that could exceed
that.
Alderman Cookson
No, I don’t believe so either, Mayor. My follow-up question to that would be do we still have the same
staffing levels because I know that we’ve gone through some transition with parking enforcement in
downtown and I’m wondering if we are still at those staffing levels that require the $728,000 be set aside so
that they are there to cover payroll, overtime and benefits?
President Deane
But the $728,000 is outside of the escrows.
Mayor Lozeau
Exactly.
President Deane
So what you are wondering is if the $728,000 covers the cost for parking enforcement, we can find that
out.
Board of Aldermen – 9/22/15 Page 13
Alderman McCarthy
My recollection is that the $728,000 singularly because it was the revenue number for the year when the
ordinance went into effect and I don’t know that we had any knowledge of whether that was more or less
than enough to fund the parking enforcement at that time.
President Deane
Well if it wasn’t enough I am sure we would have heard about it by now.
Alderman Cookson
That was absolutely part of the conversation back then was the staffing and being able to cover that
staffing with that amount of money.
President Deane
Mayor, can you please have Mr. Griffin provide the Board with the operating cost in its entirety of the
parking enforcement since this legislation’s inception and what balance we had left over if any since the
legislation was approved?
Mayor Lozeau
I would be happy to do that. I know that we have somebody on every shift but I can’t tell you if we have
three or four staff on every shift.
MOTION CARRIED
Resolution R-15-162 declared duly adopted as amended.
R-15-167
Endorser: Mayor Donnalee Lozeau
ESTABLISHING THE USE OF FUND BALANCE FOR TAX RATE
Given its second reading;
MOTION BY ALDERMAN WILSHIRE FOR FINAL PASSAGE OF R-15-167 BY ROLL CALL
A Viva Voce Roll Call vote was which resulted as follows:
Yea: Alderman McCarthy, Alderman Dowd, Alderman Schoneman, 15
Alderman Chasse, Alderman Caron, Alderman McGuinness,
Alderman Cookson, Alderman Soucy, Alderman Donchess,
Alderman Moriarty, Alderman Siegel, Alderwoman Melizzi-Golja,
Alderwoman Brown, Alderman Wilshire, Alderman Deane
Nay: 0
MOTION CARRIED
Resolution R-15-167 declared duly adopted.
R-15-168
Endorser: Mayor Donnalee Lozeau
APPROVING A PROPOSED CABLE TELEVISION FRANCHISE AGREEMENT RENEWAL
BETWEEN THE CITY OF NASHUA AND COMCAST
Given its second reading;
Board of Aldermen – 9/22/15 Page 14
MOTION BY ALDERMAN MORIARTY TO AMEND R-15-168 IN ITS ENTIRETY BY REPLACING IT WITH
THE GOLDEN ROD COPY PROVIDED WITH THE AGENDA
ON THE QUESTION
Alderman Chasse
The difference is that it’s going to be handled by the Budget Review Committee during budget time.
Alderman Moriarty
I was going to direct your attention to section 7.1, 7.2 and 7.3; there was a copy that I’ll talk to you about
after we approve this assuming we do that was missing some very substantial pieces of text.
MOTION CARRIED
Alderman Moriarty
Is a motion to re-refer non-debatable and the reason I ask is I don’t want to talk about something and then
make a non-debatable motion out of line.
President Deane
It’s a debatable motion.
MOTION BY ALDERMAN MORIARTY TO RE-REFER R-15-168 AS AMENDED TO THE CABLE
TELEVISION ADVISORY BOARD WITH COMMENTS TO THEN BE FORWARDED TO THE FINANCE
COMMITTEE
ON THE QUESTION
Alderman Donchess
I would like to support the motion and suggest also the CTAB Committee. I think a number of the speakers
tonight have raised some questions about the details of the agreement. Some corrections would seem to
be really simple, for example, the idea that there should be a provision for HD to be included if some other
agreement elsewhere in New Hampshire includes HD.
Alderman Siegel
I certainly understand Alderman Donchess’ comments about wanting to re-refer to CTAB based on public
comment but the re-referral to the Finance Committee, what has changed that would merit that? I assume
that after CTAB it would come back to the Finance Committee. Is there something else that we didn’t see
last night?
Alderman Moriarty
The issue isn’t that the Finance Committee didn’t see it, it’s that CTAB didn’t see it. There was a mix up at
no fault to anybody. The document that went to CTAB didn’t contain any of this language so CTAB had
agreed to put down a short list of recommended changes and send that to the Finance Committee and a
couple of things got in the way and I wasn’t able to table it in the Finance Committee in order to let the
Finance Committee get an opportunity to hear CTAB’s input. We are hoping to send it back to the Finance
Committee so that input from CTAB can show up and the Finance Committee can hear their comments.
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President Deane
So we want CTAB to review and send their comments and recommendations as part of the legislation to
the Finance Committee, is that correct?
Alderman Moriarty
Correct.
Alderman Dowd
Are there any time constraints on this agreement?
President Deane
I don’t think so.
Alderman McCarthy
I wanted to comment that during the public comment section Mr. Teeboom had commented on some things
like the appendices’ that are attached to it and that they ought to be revisited and I suspect that he is
correct because a quick look at it showed that Comcast is still responsible for giving free service to the
Chandler Library which is probably not appropriate to say the least.
MOTION CARRIED
R-15-172
Endorsers: Mayor Donnalee Lozeau
Alderman-at-Large Brian S. McCarthy
Alderman Richard A. Dowd
Alderman-at-Large Lori Wilshire
Alderwoman Pamela T. Brown
Alderwoman Mary Ann Melizzi-Golja
Alderman June M. Caron
AUTHORIZING THE ACQUISITION OF PROPERTY AT 141-143 BURKE STREET, TAX MAP
11, LOT 158, FOR A PURCHASE PRICE OF $4,200,000
Given its second reading;
MOTION BY ALDERMAN MCCARTHY FOR FINAL PASSAGE OF R-15-172
ON THE QUESTION
Alderman Moriarty
It’s interesting that we have a $14 million impact to the city and the gallery emptied. In general I think
this purchase has a lot of merits. There is one thing I would like to get on record and that is I don’t mind
approving the bond for this and also understanding that there is going to be $10 million of money that’s
going to be needed to upgrade the building but the idea of spending next year’s money this year if we
plan for it properly. I just don’t want to spend next year’s money this year and then spend next year’s
money again next year. Is there anybody that can go on record from, in particular the School
Construction Project Committee that can assure us that there will not be another bond from the School
Construction Project Committee next year?
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Alderman McCarthy
The short answer is no because those requests come from the school board and the Joint Special
School Building Committee. I suspect that there is intent not to do that for a year or two.
Alderman Dowd
I have talked with Shawn Smith and his planning budget is moved out a couple of years before we touch
another school.
Alderman Moriarty
Can we recognize that if such a bond did appear in the next term that there are at least five of us here
that are willing to vote no?
Chairman Deane
I don’t think it’s appropriate to be asking people to commit to anything.
Alderman Moriarty
I recognize that we can’t vote on such a thing but I would be willing listen to other’s on the Board of
Aldermen and hear what they have to say and if they are likeminded then that would be good to hear.
Alderman Chasse
This is kind of going crazy here because some of us aren’t even going to be here next year.
Alderman Dowd
The Board of Education doesn’t plan to do another project for a couple of years but one never knows in
maintenance what could happen. Something might happen that is beyond our control.
Alderman Cookson
I’d like to ask for a roll call vote on this.
Alderman Donchess
I think that the strongest reason to move forward on this has to do with the fact that wastewater treatment
plant is adjacent to this property and we’ve heard that it’s likely that an expansion of the wastewater
treatment plant will be required to handle phosphates or other pollutant that the EPA want us to remove.
If we were to not purchase this and it fell into other hands and they developed this property and we had
to take it by eminent domain then $4 million would be a drop in the bucket. I think we should move
forward with it.
Alderman McCarthy
I have a question for corporation counsel. We had discussed unsealing the minutes of the non-public
meetings and I am wondering whether there is a reason why we need to…as I understand it right now is
that we have three options, which are to leave them sealed until we have executed the sale and then
unseal them entirely, we could unseal them partially with the redactions about the purchase and sale
agreement and I think that’s the only one that we can do tonight if we don’t leave them sealed. I’m
looking for some guidance on which of those is most expedient. Is it difficult to do the redactions and
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provide that portion to the public immediately or is there a reason why we need to leave them sealed until
the transaction has been executed?
Attorney Bennett
I don’t see any reason to keep the majority of the minutes sealed. The redactions are straight forward
and ready to go.
President Deane
The Legislative Office completed all of the non-public minutes.
MOTION FOR FINAL PASSAGE WITHDRAWN
MOTION BY ALDERMAN MCCARTHY THAT THE RULES BE SO FAR SUSPENDED AS TO
UNSEAL THE MINUTES OF THE NON-PUBLIC SESSION RELATIVE TO 141-143 BURKE STREET
MOTION CARRIED
MOTION BY ALDERMAN MCCARTHY TO UNSEAL THE MINUTES OF THE NON-PUBLIC
SESSIONS THAT WERE HELD REGARDING THE ACQUISITION OF 141-143 BURKE STREET WITH
THE REDACTIONS SUGGESTED BY CORPORATION COUNSEL
MOTION CARRIED
MOTION BY ALDERMAN MCCARTHY FOR FINAL PASSAGE OF R-15-172
ON THE QUESTION
Alderman Cookson
I had asked at the committee level to see if there was some way to understand the impact on mileage on
the vehicles and while it’s not pertinent to this particular resolution I would like to make sure that request is
still being looked at and I should expect some information back with regard to it.
President Deane
Mayor, can you get the information for Alderman Cookson?
Mayor Lozeau
We will do our best, we have discussed it. As I told you that night I am not quite sure it can be done quite
the way you would like it to be but we are happy to continue to talk about it.
Alderman Cookson
Thank you, I appreciate that.
Alderwoman Melizzi-Golja
At the committee meeting we had discussed the financial benefits of this and one of the things that was
mentioned was the price that would be paid by Conway for that land. Could you refresh my memory? I
know that there was a dollar amount that came up on your slide.
Board of Aldermen – 9/22/15 Page 18
Mayor Lozeau
There was not a dollar amount as it related specifically to Conway but there was some conversation in
minutes that have now been unsealed. I am meeting with Conway and we had talked about an amount
of $500,000. I don’t know that that is still on the table so that is why I am meeting with them.
Alderwoman Melizzi-Golja
Thank you.
Alderman Moriarty
I would like to make one comment for the record that mentioned during the no-public session and that is
that we don’t know who we are betting against. It would be useful for me to know if we did know who
they are because I could speculate that it was a company that wanted to come in and put this building to
good use and possibly employ several hundred people. In essence, by purchasing this building we may
be in effect reducing jobs in Nashua by several hundred but we don’t know.
Alderman Siegel
While I am sensitive to the idea of leasing or having this in private hands the wastewater treatment plant
drives this and the eminent domain process would be a nightmare. We have to have the ability to
expand the wastewater treatment plant based on stuff we already know is on the table on our horizon. I
don’t think it’s a good option to not do this.
President Deane
I agree.
Alderman Schoneman
I agree as well. My perspective on this is to have the ability to expand the wastewater treatment plant as
necessary and the benefit to consolidation is very good to the city as well and specifically for Ward 3 the
idea that we can restore and preserve Greeley Park further I think is very advantageous to us. When we
do this, in my mind, it means we can’t do other things and I recognize that trade-off but this I think is a
priority.
Alderman McCarthy
I just wanted to comment on the prospect of someone using the building for another purpose. I think
when people read the minutes on the non-public session, from what I saw it certainly looked like the
person we were bidding against was merely engaged in speculation on the real estate as an investment
probably with the intent of ultimately selling it to us at a higher price and I don’t think we are going to see
that we stopped someone from opening a major new manufacturing plant on that site.
A Viva Voce Roll Call vote was which resulted as follows:
Yea: Alderman McCarthy, Alderman Dowd, Alderman Schoneman, 14
Alderman Chasse, Alderman Caron, Alderman McGuinness,
Alderman Cookson, Alderman Soucy, Alderman Donchess,
Alderman Siegel, Alderwoman Melizzi-Golja, Alderwoman Brown,
Alderman Wilshire, Alderman Deane
Nay: Alderman Moriarty 1
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MOTION CARRIED
Resolution R-15-172 declared duly adopted.
R-15-173
Endorsers: Mayor Donnalee Lozeau
Alderman-at-Large Lori Wilshire
Alderwoman Mary Ann Melizzi-Golja
Alderman June M. Caron
Alderman Richard A. Dowd
Alderman-at-Large Brian S. McCarthy
AUTHORIZING THE MAYOR AND CITY TREASURER TO ISSUE BONDS NOT TO EXCEED
THE AMOUNT OF FOUR MILLION TWO HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS ($4,200,000) FOR
THE PURCHASE OF 141-143 BURKE STREET
Given its second reading;
MOTION BY ALDERMAN WILSHIRE FOR FINAL PASSAGE OF R-15-173 BY ROLL CALL
A Viva Voce Roll Call vote was which resulted as follows:
Yea: Alderman McCarthy, Alderman Dowd, Alderman Schoneman, 14
Alderman Chasse, Alderman Caron, Alderman McGuinness,
Alderman Cookson, Alderman Soucy, Alderman Donchess,
Alderman Siegel, Alderwoman Melizzi-Golja, Alderwoman Brown,
Alderman Wilshire, Alderman Deane
Nay: Alderman Moriarty 1
MOTION CARRIED
Resolution R-15-173 declared duly adopted.
UNFINISHED BUSINESS – ORDINANCES
O-15-054
Endorser: Alderman-at-Large Jim Donchess
Alderwoman Pamela T. Brown
AUTHORIZING FREE HOLIDAY PARKING AT METERS IN ZONE III WHICH INCLUDES
THE ELM STREET AND HIGH STREET PARKING GARAGES FROM DECEMBER 10, 2015,
THROUGH DECEMBER 27, 2015
Given its second reading;
MOTION BY ALDERMAN DONCHESS TO AMEND O-15-054 IN ITS ENTIRETY BY REPLACING IT
WITH THE GOLDEN ROD COPY PROVIDED WITH THE AGENDA
ON THE QUESTION
Alderman Donchess
The change that was recommended by the committee was to alter the end date of the no fee period for
Zone 3. The original proposal had been for December 27th and the committee thought that it made
sense to extend the deadline to January 3rd.
MOTION CARRIED
Board of Aldermen – 9/22/15 Page 20
MOTION BY ALDERMAN DONCHESS FOR FINAL PASSAGE OF O-15-054 AS AMENDED
ON THE QUESTION
Alderman Donchess
Last year the committee and the Board passed a no fee period for Zone 3 which is the two parking
garages as well as some outlying areas on the street. Last year it was a compromised approach
because some people on Main Street had objected to any no fee period Zone 1 and 2. The
recommendation here is that we proceed as we did last year. The meters do get bagged and the like.
The only change from last year is that the end date of the no fee period for Zone 3 was extended to
January 3rd.
Alderman McCarthy
I am not going to support it. This was a subject of substantial discussion at the last Downtown
Improvement Committee meeting and a number of the members of the committee who are merchant’s
downtown recommended strongly against it. Part of the argument was you find someone that leases
spaces for my employees in the two parking garages so why would I just not do that for the month of
December and pay the daily parking for the first few days and use the free parking for the rest of the
month which has two negative effects. One is that we lose revenue and two is that they will then park in
the metered spaces which are now bagged so it makes life harder for the people that do want to come
downtown. I think we should be working on things like the better marketing of downtown. We’d be much
better off in making it easier to find the parking that we’ve got than trying to entice people with free
parking.
Alderman Donchess
With respect to the point regarding the garages, I believe it is correct to say that in years prior to last year
the garages were administratively made free in December. The reason that we just included the garage
language in this resolution as passed last year was to make sure that there wasn’t an implication that if
we did not say the garages that somehow we were saying that they should pay so I think that the
garages have been free for some years and really what this does is to make sure that the garages are
included and then add a little bit more. My only point is that this garage program, I believe has existed
for quite some time.
Alderman McCarthy
I believe you are right but I don’t believe that we have any data that says it was successful or
unsuccessful or otherwise. I don’t think we ever bothered to measure whether we lost lease revenue in
December when we did that or what any of the effects were.
Alderman Moriarty
People like free parking, I’m on board.
Alderman Schoneman
We are talking about the extension of one week here and I think it’s still part of the holiday season. I
think the holiday season is what draws people out for evening activities downtown. I will support it.
Alderman McCarthy
We are talking about final passage at the moment, correct? It’s not just the one week amendment, it’s
the entirety of it being free for the month of December that we are debating.
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Alderman Schoneman
I thought the concern was with final passage was for the extra week. If not that’s fine.
MOTION CARRIED
Ordinance O-15-054 declared duly adopted as amended.
NEW BUSINESS – RESOLUTIONS
R-15-175
Endorser: Mayor Donnalee Lozeau
APPROVING A FIRST AMENDMENT TO THE SITE LEASE AGREEMENT WITH SPRINT
SPECTRUM REALTY COMPANY, L.P. (SUCCESSOR-IN-INTEREST TO SPRINT SPECTRUM,
L.P.) TO RELOCATE THE LESSEE’S COMMUNICATION EQUIPMENT LOCATED AT WHIPPLE
STREET, MINES FALL PARK TO THE NEW REPLACEMENT TOWER
Given its first reading; assigned to the FINANCE COMMITTEE and the BOARD OF PUBLIC WORKS by
President Deane
R-15-176
Endorser: Alderman-at-Large Lori Wilshire
Alderman Michael Soucy
APPROVING THE COST ITEMS OF A COLLECTIVE BARGAINING AGREEMENT BETWEEN
THE NASHUA BOARD OF POLICE COMMISSIONERS AND UAW PROFESSIONAL EMPLOYEES
OF THE NASHUA POLICE DEPARTMENT, LOCAL #2322, FROM JULY 1, 2015, THROUGH JUNE
30, 2018 AND AUTHORIZING RELATED TRANSFERS
Given its first reading; assigned to the BUDGET REVIEW COMMITTEE by President Deane
R-15-177
Endorser: Mayor Donnalee Lozeau
Alderwoman Pamela T. Brown
RELATIVE TO THE ACCEPTANCE AND APPROPRIATION OF UP TO $270,000 OF LEASE
PAYMENTS GENERATED FROM PROPERTY LOCATED AT 25 CROWN STREET, ACQUIRED
WITH FEDERAL FUNDS, FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF A PARK AND RIDE
Given its first reading; assigned to the HUMAN AFFAIRS COMMITTEE by President Deane
NEW BUSINESS – ORDINANCES
O-15-067
Endorser: Alderman-at-Large Jim Donchess
Alderman-at-Large Lori Wilshire
Alderwoman Pamela T. Brown
Alderwoman Mary Ann Melizzi-Golja
Alderman-at-Large Brian S. McCarthy
Alderman Richard A. Dowd
Alderman David Schoneman
EXTENDING THE OVERNIGHT ON-STREET PARKING PERMIT PROGRAM FOR ANOTHER
YEAR
Given its first reading; assigned to the COMMITTEE ON INFRASTRUCTURE by President Deane
O-15-068
Endorser: Alderman Sean M. McGuinness
EXEMPTING CERTAIN ACCESSORY STRUCTURES FROM SETBACK REQUIREMENTS
Given its first reading;
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MOTION BY ALDERMAN MORIARTY TO ACCEPT THE FIRST READING OF O-15-068, ASSIGN
IT TO THE PLANNING & ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE AND THE NASHUA CITY
PLANNING BOARD; AND THAT A PUBLIC HEARING BE SCHEDULED FOR TUESDAY, OCTOBER
6, 2015, AT 7:00 PM IN THE ALDERMANIC CHAMBER
ON THE QUESTION
Alderman Dowd
Shouldn’t that also go to the Zoning Board as setbacks are zoning issues?
President Deane
No.
MOTION CARRIED
O-15-069
Endorser: Alderman-at-Large David W. Deane
Alderman-at-Large Lori Wilshire
Alderman Michael Soucy
AMENDING CERTAIN MOTOR VEHICLE ORDINANCE FINES AND REQUIRING MOTOR
VEHICLE OWNERS TO PAY TOWING FEES
Given its first reading; assigned to the PERSONNEL/ADMINISTRATIVE AFFAIRS COMMITTEE by
President Deane
PERIOD FOR GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT
Ms. Mary Elizabeth Carroll, 91 ½ Chandler Street
Hi Aldermen, I need some help. I went to the Environmental Health Department at the end of July and
also called her on Friday. I have an environmental health issue in my house and car. Heidi Peak, the
environmental lady still does not believe me. Chemicals are deadly. She told me to go to Community
Council for a doctor. Something in my house and car is an environmental health issue and not a
psychiatrist issue. The chemical spill that happened in November of 2013 should have been put in the
newspaper or television and it was not. Heidi Peak and Patti Rogers, the Mayor’s former secretary kept
this a secret. Heidi Peak is still keeping this airborne chemical a secret. I need someone to tell my son
about the chemical as he is not feeling it. This airborne chemical is an allergy and it is in everyone’s
pores of their skin. Massachusetts is worse than New Hampshire; Nashua is not bad, it’s just in the
clothes, I don’t think it’s in the houses. I am trying to get it out of my house but my son is allowing his
girlfriend in the house and they are passing these chemicals back and forth. Neither one of them feel it
and I believe this chemical is an allergy just like the bed bugs but bed bugs are not deadly. How do I get
rid of something contagious when my son is allowing people in my house and going to their houses. The
spill in November, 2013, should have been put in the newspaper but it was not. Since Nashua passed
this to the whole state, well Heidi by herself by not doing anything, and Massachusetts and maybe the
other states and the other six continents through the tires and the soles on the shoes. Maybe we are
stuck with it until God ends the world but in the meantime people in New Hampshire and Massachusetts
have a right to know what is in their skin, houses and cars. Symptoms are pain in the whole body,
burning, sore throat and cutting sensation. Thank you and I’d like some help.
Ms. Paula Johnson, 15 Westborn Drive
I guess I am surprised that we passed $4.2 million we passed just like that. Mr. Cutter, conversation
after conversation and nothing has been done yet. When it comes to spending we do that very quickly
here. I think it is great that the minutes of the non-public is unsealed but now that it is unsealed the
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public gets to read it but the legislation is passed. We, the people in this city have no right to read what
on in non-public and question any of the information because the legislation has already passed for $4.2
million which will really cost over $10 million when you start with the asbestos remediation. I get it about
it about the wastewater. I am really shocked about the downtown parking meters for Christmas I mean
you can’t let people shop for free. Downtown merchants don’t get why people don’t shop down there,
some of the Aldermen don’t get why people don’t shop down there. They can go to the mall for free.
When I sat on this Board I voted against the meters. There are not a lot of stores down there that cater
to the average person anyway, the prices are too high. Now your anchor store is leaving and where do
his customers go? They go with him. You can attract more people with free parking and if you have
traffic enforcement down there you could chalk the tires and give them two hours for free. The
merchants and a lot of people on this Board are driving the customers out of the downtown. You want to
build the downtown, it doesn’t take a rocket scientist to figure this out. You have to bring in the stores
and make it user friendly down there. I don’t care how much money you invest to downtown but if you
don’t have the right clients and the right stores you are not going to bring in the people. You have the
stores that cater to the people who live in the downtown area and not expensive boutiques that people
can’t afford. I’m tired of giving my parking meter “X” amount of revenue to corporate welfare downtown.
That money should be taken and put into street paving versus $17 million for bonding which is going to
be shameful. Eventually somebody has got to pay for it and us poor schnooks in the city who don’t get
raises; look what is happening in the school department. Why do you think the school district is getting
rid of their custodians? The unions priced themselves out of the market. There are just so much raises
that can go on. Nobody else gets raises out there but the union contracts keep going up 2%, 3% and
4%. This economy is not prosperous but $4.2 million went just like that. I won’t be able to make the
meeting tomorrow night but I hope something is done with Mr. Cutter once and for all. Let’s have some
respect for this 83-year old man. I want to end this by saying a comment was made about me two weeks
ago. If I am harassing someone then call the police. Thank you.
REMARKS BY THE MEMBERS OF THE BOARD OF ALDERMEN
Alderwoman Brown
There is an employment opportunity tomorrow at St. Patrick’s Church at the gym at 29 Spring Street.
Between 9:00 a.m. and 11:00 a.m. there is a dress for success opportunity for people to get free
business attire and the whole job fair is between 11:00 a.m. to 2:00 p.m. and that’s tomorrow.
Alderman Moriarty
I would like highlight R-15-176 and give everybody a heads up. It’s the collective bargaining agreement
between the Board of Police Commissioners and the UAW Employee’s. The base salary plus other
costs of 3.1% one year; 2.3% the next year and 2.3% the next year. It’s way above inflation and the
spending cap.
Alderman Soucy
I want to speak briefly on tonight’s public comment referencing R-15-172 indicating that this Board spent
$4.2 million without any significant conversation. I want to let the public know that there was plenty of
significant conversation at the committee level and then there was a very good public hearing where the
Mayor gave a very good presentation and people were allowed to speak. The prevailing opinion was
valid. To say that this was just done is incorrect, it was done with a lot of thought.
Alderman Cookson
I’d like to congratulate the Board of Public Works newly sworn in commissioner, Joel Ackerman and I’m
looking forward to working with him.
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Alderman Schoneman
At the airport the last two days and continuing tomorrow there are some World War II airplanes and it
gives you a chance to look at pieces of history and go for a ride if you want. It’s a great event and the
parking lot was full.
President Deane
I’d like to make a comment about the amount of work and the minutes that were released on that piece of
property. It’s kind of hard to be in the middle of a negotiating the sale on a piece of property and take our
strategy that we’ve sealed in a non-public session and release that for who to look at because once it’s
released everybody has a right to look at it, even the people that we are bidding against. Folks might not
be happy with the process. I strongly supported the project.
Alderman Siegel, happy birthday tomorrow.
Committee announcements:
Alderman Donchess
The Infrastructure Committee meets tomorrow night at 7:00 p.m. in the Aldermanic Chamber.
Alderman Dowd
The School Construction Project Committee is going to meet at 7:00 p.m. and the Joint Special School
Building Committee will meet at 7:30 p.m. at the Sunset Heights this coming Thursday.
Alderman Chasse
The Personnel/Administrative Affairs Committee meets right here next Monday night at 7:00 p.m.
ADJOURNMENT
MOTION BY ALDERMAN CHASSE THAT THE SEPTEMBER 22, 2015, MEETING OF THE BOARD
OF ALDERMEN BE ADJOURNED
MOTION CARRIED
The meeting was declared adjourned at 9:39 p.m.
Attest: Patricia D. Piecuch, City Clerk
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