Budget Review Committee
Regular MeetingNashua, NH · June 9, 2014
Minutes
BUDGET REVIEW COMMITTEE
JUNE 9, 2014
A meeting of the Budget Review Committee was held Monday, June 9, 2014 at 7:33 p.m. in the Aldermanic
Chamber.
Alderman-at-Large David W. Deane, Chair, presided.
Members of Committee present: Alderman-at-Large Lori Wilshire, Vice Chair
Alderman Richard A. Dowd
Alderwoman Pamela T. Brown
Alderman Ken Siegel
Alderman David Schoneman
Alderman Michael Soucy
Members Also in Attendance: Alderman-at-Large Brian McCarthy
Alderman-at-Large Diane Sheehan, Arrived at 8:34 p.m.
PUBLIC COMMENT
COMMUNICATIONS - None
DEPARTMENTAL REVIEWS
Financial Services Financial Services
Purchasing
Building Maintenance
Assessing/Overlay
GIS
John Griffin
Mr. Chairman if I could have a few opening remarks and introduce the team and go forward. I
appreciate it. Treasurer Fredette, Mr. Marino, Mr. Hunnewell.
Chairman Deane
Mr. Griffin if you want to give your pre-overview.
John Griffin
Thank you Mr. Chairman and members of the Budget Review Committee and other members of the
Board of Aldermen. I would like to begin tonight by indicating who the managers are in the Financial
Services Division: Treasurer/Tax Collector David Fredette who's here with us this evening; Accounting
Compliance Manager Rose Evans; Compensation Payroll Manager Doreen Beaulieu - both of those
individuals are not here tonight. David Fredette has agreed to carry the laboring aura with regards to
Financial Services. Risk Manager Jen Deshaies who was here last week; Building Manager Jay
Hunnewell who's here tonight; Chief Assessor/GIS Manager Angelo Marino is here tonight; Public
Works/Financial Manager Carolyn O'Connor who was here last Thursday; and General Government
Financial Manager Janet Graziano who was here the two previous meetings. As you know our
Purchasing Manager Robert Gabriel retired last Tuesday so he is not here tonight. He wishes me well
when we go over the budget for Purchasing.
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Chairman Deane
I knew Robert would do that. That's the type of guy he is. I'm sure he's sitting at home and is going to
watch you stumble and bumble through it right? Purchasing is a very small portion.
John Griffin
All of these individuals and their teams have been instrumental in providing the City with strong financial
management and oversight. That's duly noted in the most recent rating reports from Standard & Poor’s
& Fitch. The Financial Services Division as a whole came in at the 2 percent request from the Mayor for
the FY15 budget. This evening Mr. Fredette will review the Financial Services budget; I will review the
Purchasing Department budget; Mr. Hunnewell will review the Building Maintenance budget; and Mr.
Marino will review the Assessing and GIS budgets. With regard to some high level achievements in
FY14, on the financial reporting side we have been awarded once again a Certificate of Achievement for
excellence in financial reporting from the Government Finance Offices Association for the 8th
consecutive year, which is a testament to the entire financial team and the rest of the organization for
providing us the information necessary to put the CAFR together. We once again received an
unmodified - that's the new buzz word - clean opinion from our external auditors. The auditors have
frequently commented to me how well prepared the staff is in preparation for their visits on an annual
basis to perform their work. As I've indicated in the past, we are still in the early stages of using our new
loss and financial software for accounting, payroll, accounts payable, cash management, and
purchasing. Given the challenges with any new system, the team has done a remarkable job with the
city's records and financial reporting. With respect to the most recent revaluation of city property during
this fiscal year, the Assessing Department worked diligently and effectively in revaluing all of the
properties in the city. We received two bond ratings this year - Fitch rating affirmed the city's AAA rating
with a stable outlook. Standard & Poors assigned a Nashua AA+ with a stable outlook. Both add strong
comments about the city's operations not only financial but operational and its objectives to generate
economic development initiatives within the city as well. As I mentioned, we all worked very hard to pull
the information together with the rating agency's comment to me that they appreciate the efforts of
Treasurer Fredette in assembling the right people at the right time to answer any questions they may
have. With regard to the financial software implementations as you know, we implemented the FINPRO
portion, the financial and procurement portion in April of 2012. We most recently implemented the
payroll portion in not to be outdone with that, we also implemented a time and reporting system called
"Kronos" which enables us to feed into the Payroll Department software to pay the people timely and
effectively. I think the team lead by Doreen Beaulieu and her staff - it's a nimble crew but they've done a
remarkable job in making sure we didn't have any missteps with paying people because when you do
that, you folks would have heard some comments as well. I take my hat off to them for that effort. With
regard to looking forward in FY15, we are well positioned to maintain our strong financial management
profile as we have another sizable bond offering planned. This profile will be most helpful in obtaining
favorable bond rates. Thank you for your attention and I'll pass the baton over to David Fredette.
Chairman Deane
What we've done is - is everybody going to say something? Jay are you going to talk about the
buildings?
Jay Hunnewell
Yes.
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Chairman Deane
Mr. Marino - so we're going to go David, Jay, and then Mr. Marino I guess or however you want to do it.
Everybody is just going to give a little...
Alderwoman Brown
I just wanted to see if Mr. Griffin and Alderman Dowd could adjust their lights.
David Fredette
Thank you Mr. Chairman. As CFO Griffin mentioned, Financial Services group consists of the CFO's
office, Treasurer/Tax office, Financial Reporting, Accounts Payable, and Payroll. I am directly
responsible for the Treasurer/Tax office which includes treasury, tax office including sewer billing, and
several miscellaneous billings that we send out, vehicle registration, and traffic violations or otherwise
parking tickets. The majority of our work is prescribed either by local law or State law. Some of the
2014 accomplishments in our area was T2 software implementation for traffic violations and leased
parking including ticket handhelds. We completed refunding loan with the State saving nearly $2 million
for the city. We were the first community in New Hampshire to do that. I've been told there are several
others that are in the process of doing that now in New Hampshire; continue the expansion of credit card
options for various departments. We streamline the construction performance process. We completed
a loan amendment on CSO for $12 million at a lower rate. Again, we were the first in the State to do
something like that. We completed a full purge of the financial vault. We satisfactorily completed our
first IRS audit on 2006 bond sale which I think I mentioned. Just for your observation, this was the book
we had to produce for the IRS. It was a lot of work for Rean Lam.
Chairman Deane
Did they open it or did they just...
David Fredette
No they looked at it quite heavily. We had a perfect score from them. There was absolutely no write up
at all on it. We were very pleased about that. We just hope they don't come back soon to ask for
another.
Chairman Deane
Dave that's awesome.
David Fredette
Rean Lam did a lot of it. I think you know Rean. Completed successful bond sale with rates under 3
percent for the last 3 years. As you know, we just had one in May. Our goals for FY15 are transition
and testing for the new property tax and utility billing software which the Board just approved last week.
Of course we're going to concentrate this year on the tax billing software. Convert solid waste credit
card service to current city-wide system. We're going to review, consolidate, eliminate, no longer need
trust funds. Process remaining balances of older bonds for the Board of Aldermen. We're going to
investigate the use of outside service and/or software Board of Public Works pension. Review the use
of lock box or credit card payments for leased parking and tickets. We hope to implement boat
registrations for our customers in Nashua. Review and implement automated deposits if possible to
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increase interest income which we need to. Just a few numbers of what goes on in the area. This is on
an annual basis - tax bills. We process about 56,000 tax bills a year; wastewater bills - 102,000; leased
parking bills - 1,600; solid waste bills - 1,320; registration transactions - we vary between 88,000 and
90,000 a year; parking tickets - 21,000; accounts payable checks - a little over 23,000; POs almost
3,000 a year; payroll checks - 123,000 a year; W2s almost 4,000; and 1099s a little over 100. So those
are some of the numbers that we process each year in the group. That's my opening statement Mr.
Chairman.
Chairman Deane
Thank you very much.
Angelo Marino
I'm Angelo Marino. I'm the Chief Assessor and GIS Manager. Within the Assessing and GIS
Department there are currently 10 employees including myself. I have 2 commercial/industrial
appraisers, 2 residential appraisers, 4 clerical staff, and 1 GIS Technician. Over the past year we've
processed 2,235 deeds and process 814 credits and exemptions. We've processed forms for the filing
of those statutory credits and exemptions of 238 A9 forms and 137 A12 forms. The major
accomplishment in the Assessing office this past year was the total revaluation of all properties. It's
approximately 29,000 properties that were reassessed. As a result of that, the abatements that were
filed for those assessments numbered approximately 250. This is contrasted with the previous year
2012 when the abatements that were filed were 350. So even though the assessments were adjusted
for 29,000, we have approximately 100 abatements less than we did last year. Within GIS, we currently
have a number of projects in the works. We recently finished an available space for the retail space in
downtown Nashua which is now linked in the Nashua Dare site. We provided the road obstruction map
that was used during Hurricane Sandy. We provided the Broad Street Parkway map which is available
through the city's web page. In addition to fire map books, a mobile application for collecting information
for fire circuits and in progress we have a new GIS viewer application and an application using a mobile
module which will allow us to do disconnected editing as well as connected editing in the field. We hope
to be able to use that for rapid building assessments, damage assessments should we need that. There
are two significant expenditure modifications within my budget that you'll see is that the pictometry line
item went from 18,000 to 24,000 this year. That's because this is a flight year where we'll be contracting
hopefully for a new area flight. In the assessing budget, there is a deduction of $13,900 which is no
longer there. That's been moved to IT because its software maintenance and you may also note that
there hopefully is $25,000 in IT this year for an upgrade to our software which is approximately 15 years
old. That's all I have.
Jay Hunnewell
Thank you Mr. Chairman. I don't have a book either but I do have an opening statement. My name is
Jay Hunnewell and I manage the Building Maintenance Department that is referred to as city buildings in
your budget book. The City Buildings Department has 5 employees, 4 full time positions, 1 part time
position. Currently all of my positions are full. The Maintenance Specialist position and the 3 custodians
belong to the UAW Clerical/Technical Unit and I am a merit employee. The goals and objectives of the
city Buildings Department are to maintain the city building systems that include life safety devices, HVAC
and mechanical systems, grounds maintenance, and custodial duties. Other tasks include coordination
of office fit ups and meeting room set up requests. The city Buildings Department also assists with
various capital improvement projects. Recent projects include the Clerk's office renovations and the
carpet replacement project, as well as the replacement of the main entrance doors at the Court Street
Theater. The city buildings department currently supports 7 city buildings, City Hall, Public Health, the
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Court Street Theater, the senior activity center, 57 Gilson Road, 37 Arlington Street, and the Hunt
Building. The level of support varies at each facility based on agreements and current use. The big
reduction in my budget this year is in electricity and that's a direct result of the HVAC and replacement
project back in FY11. Other than that, that's all I have for my opening.
Alderman Soucy
I guess the one number that I'm looking at that seems to be a significant change if you go to page 88
under conferences and seminars, it looks to me that our seminars have gone from Boston to Honolulu.
It went from $2,500 to $10,000. What's the driving force of such an increase for that?
David Fredette
It's mainly due to a Lawson Conference which they've never attended before. There would be 2 people
going to that. Then also one for Kronis which they've never attended before. I think they had to
estimate at least one of them because they won't know where it's going to be yet and exactly how much
it will be. That's the main reason.
Alderman Soucy
Thank you.
Chairman Deane
Financial Services starts on page 88 and their appropriations are on 88. Their revenues are on page 34
in the yellow pages. Their positions are on page 6 of 37 in the thin little blue book. In your 5100, I don't
know who wants to answer to this Mr. Griffin or Treasurer Fredette. You've gotten rid of an accountant?
David Fredette
They're upgrading the current position in the Financial Reporting Department. So it's going from an
Accountant to I believe a Senior Accountant.
Chairman Deane
Why?
John Griffin
The Accountant has done a fantastic job being an accountant. Both the Accounting Manager and I
believe that the incumbent can take on more and diverse responsibilities that she'll be able to handle
and that's why we're proposing the Accountant position be budgeted at a Senior Accountant level. The
Senior Accountant will join the Senior Financial Analyst to round out the Accounting Manager's team
from a Professional UAW perspective.
Chairman Deane
So if I'm correct and the change is an $11,000 a year increase. Your Accountant which is 1FTE is
$46,700. There's nothing budgeted and now that position is going away and it's now going to become a
Senior Accountant. It's a $6,000 a year increase.
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John Griffin
That's correct. That's a budgetary number. Right now we're getting the position evaluated.
Chairman Deane
So we don't have a PDF done for this yet?
John Griffin
We have the PDF in process that goes through the HAY system through Director Hill's shop and we will
be hopeful to get that information shortly.
Chairman Deane
Your Accounts Payable Coordinator, 3 people, that line shows a $10,000 reduction.
John Griffin
Right. That was a new hire. Attrition.
Mayor Lozeau
We hired in at a lower...
Chairman Deane
Thank you. Your Administrative Assistant I.
David Fredette
That's my Administrative Assistant.
Chairman Deane
That's a new position?
David Fredette
No it used to be you'll see it under part time and it is now a full time position.
Chairman Deane
So that went from part time to full time.
David Fredette
Yes but there's some savings with the part time Trust Accountant as you can see that. That went down
about $8,000. So that helped with the extra costs on the Administrative Assistant I.
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Chairman Deane
Do we see the same thing with the Motor Vehicle Coordinator? Is that a new hire?
David Fredette
It's a current employee that was promoted to that position yes.
Chairman Deane
But the rate of pay was reduced. So the person was hired in at less of a rate then...
David Fredette
Well the person had less experience than the one who - I had a lot of retirees in the last year and a half
as you probably know.
Chairman Deane
The Operations Analyst. Was that a full time position in CitiStat?
Mayor Lozeau
Yes.
Chairman Deane
And that pay is ramped up by $7,000 a year. The CitiStat showed it at $35,924 and now Financial
Services where this individual has moved to is $42,108 and it's the same title as the position.
John Griffin
Right. Title is a good title. It's operationally focused. What this individual will do is take all the work that
was performed in CitiStat move that to Financial Services under my direction. In addition, that individual
will help the city - it's in the draft PDF - the facility condition assessment that we had spoke about a year
ago. With a system both and the city to start and hopefully leverage that technology over to the school
but create a database of the condition of the city buildings. So the individual would do that. In addition, I
could use some assistance from this individual, the incumbent who has a pretty good handle on
technology, he can help me with all the costings that I've put together over the last 4 years and get that
into more of a database set as opposed to the as you can imagine the myriad of spreadsheets that I've
created over the last 4 years that leveraged the initial efforts that former CFO Mike Gilbar had done.
Mayor Lozeau
That's also Alderman Deane a budgeted number that final resolution on what that salary will be has not
been done yet. It could be less than that. We just know it won't be more than that.
Chairman Deane
Are there any other examples where there's dollar figures put in this operating budget that could be less
than what's being presented?
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Mayor Lozeau
Just some of these positions that are being re-evaluated like the Purchasing Manager for instance.
That's a not to exceed amount. We think that that one is probably right but again...
Chairman Deane
So if there's extra money leftover, what are you going to do with it?
Mayor Lozeau
I don't have any plans for it. Usually the extra money goes to surplus unless there's something that we
need or unanticipated.
Alderman Schoneman
I had a question about the salaries for these positions and just sort of how it works in the city. These are
merit positions is that correct?
Mayor Lozeau
Some.
John Griffin
The Senior Accountant is a UAW Professional position.
Alderman Schoneman
Are there ranges for these salaries? The private sector a lot of times there's a range for a position and
there's a low, and a medium, and a high.
John Griffin
What we have is on both the merit and UAW we have a grid system where the HAY system expert that
reports to Director Hill, he's the individual charged with evaluating the position. What I call running it
through the HAY system and coming out with a grade and possibly a recommended step. That could be
a Step 12 to Step 15. It could be what you're familiar with in the private sector. A minimum, a mid, and
a max.
Alderman Schoneman
So are these numbers here would you say they're closer to the minimum? Closer to the comparable
medium or closer to a max? Is that possible to say?
John Griffin
With regard to the Senior Accountant, we're in the process of providing the requisite information and the
individual to rate it so we don't have that. The revised job description for the Purchasing Manager, the
individual ran that through the system and it came out with the same grade. It's just a question of what
step you bring them on. As you recall, there was 20 steps in the merit grid. It could be I'm just going to
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subject to check step 17. It can literally be Grade 1 through 20 but the focus may be Step 13 to 17.
What we put here is a budgetary number just to make sure we have enough if we can attract the right
candidate.
Mayor Lozeau
We always post with a not to exceed.
John Griffin
The posting is the not to exceed that's correct.
Alderman Schoneman
The person then who establishes the step, that's basically setting what that rate is going to be. What
criteria do they use for establishing what step the person comes in at?
John Griffin
They use a grade - what they'll do is the grade is the first calculation. So let's say Grade 17. Then the
step would be based on the requirements of the job relative to the - I think there's a market rate in there
as well. When I say there could be Grade 17, Step 1, that's probably not going to do it. It's probably
going to be in the 12 to 15 range. That's generally what happens. The other thing that we discussed in
the merit discussion is we try not to bring people in at the highest step because it sends an interesting
message to that individual. I have just one other point if I may. This HAY system I believe has been
around for almost 20 years.
Alderman Schoneman
I remember seeing the grid in a previous meeting. I do remember seeing that. These look like some
significant jumps. So you're advocating that a jump of this size maybe necessary in order to keep that
person or to get a person?
John Griffin
It could be necessary and since my arrival here for almost 4 years ago, I've seen it go both ways. What
we're trying to do is attract, this is the front end of the attraction. Then its retention coupled with job
growth. What I've seen for example this past year we had a long tenured Director of Community
Development around in the budget deliberations last year brought that budgetary figure down to
$100,000 and then we were successful to come under that. So through the human resource
management on the financial end of the business, we're trying to make sure we have enough money to
attract, retain, keep the people we have if they're doing a good job. That's the objective. I've seen it go
both ways. As Mr. Fredette indicated, he's had a lot of retirements. A lot of attrition where he's brought
folks in at less of the rate of pay than the person who left.
Alderman Schoneman
Thank you.
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Alderman Siegel
Thank you Mr. Chair. On page 34 item 49 interfund transfer in, there's account 49405 which is a
transfer into the traffic violations fund. That was $200k last year and now that's $25k. What is that?
David Fredette
Well traffic ticket money when it was originally set up many years ago, at least 20 I think, is a special
revenue account. So all the money derived from parking tickets is in that account and everybody related
to that work gets paid out of it. All the expenses come out of that account. Whatever is left over comes
into the operating budget as general revenue. Over the years parking tickets issued has been going
down for many years. The revenue has also gone down for many years. Also this year with the new
system we now are paying for the benefits out of that account that we never did before. That is
$100,000 that we're getting hit with. That has a lot to do with the amount coming to the general fund a
lot lower. We also had a harder winter this year which costs. So we have to spend more money on
towing than we normally do. So there's different reasons but the main reason is the benefits now are
being paid directly out of that account.
Alderman Siegel
So that line item would really be a gross revenue minus cost number into the general fund?
David Fredette
Right.
Alderman Siegel
Thank you very much. I appreciate that. On page 34 on your split positions there's 2 positions that are
funded entirely by wastewater and the solid waste fund. Perhaps you could explain what they do that
would be entirely related to wastewater and solid waste or how that works.
David Fredette
Well we have a billing person and a collections person in the tax office. The billing person does most of
the billing for the city. So they would do the wastewater which is the largest. As I said, we do 19,000
wastewater bills a quarter for residential and around 2,200 a month for the commercial. They also do
police parking, they bill for the landfill - there's about 5 or 6 different type of bills that go out for the
landfill. We bill for the fuel at the fuel station at the Street Department. There are 5 outside agencies
that get fuel from there. There's a lot of smaller ones that they do also. That person gets paid half out
of the wastewater and half out of the landfill because all the bills relate to both of those departments.
The collection does the same thing just collects everything that the person bills. Of course they're paid
half out of the wastewater and half out of the landfill or the Solid Waste Department.
Alderman Siegel
So there's a significant amount of work obviously that they do associated with those. That's not scoped
entirely in those. They do do things outside the realm of solid waste or wastewater.
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David Fredette
The majority of the work is done there is all that. If they pick up the phone and somebody is asking a tax
question, they help and answer or if somebody at the counter they will help. The majority of their work is
all public works.
Alderman Siegel
I'm not talking about stuff in the noise margin but you were talking about things like a fuel depot.
David Fredette
Fuel is Public Works.
Alderman Siegel
It's all for Public Works. Okay. That's fine. I appreciate that. Thank you. A question. We did have
that presentation on Melanson Heath the auditing firm I believe. I think in Finance we agreed to
continue with them. I just had a question on 53114 which is on page 88 which is the accounting and
auditing services. I guess my recollection for the number that we approved was higher. Am I missing
something there? Not that low numbers are bad believe me.
Mayor Lozeau
(inaudible) skip an auditing. That's not the Melanson Heath contract.
Alderman Siegel
What is that?
David Fredette
Mayor that is the contract.
Mayor Lozeau
I thought it was the $10,000.
David Fredette
Some of their - you're talking about the $86,000?
Alderman Siegel
Yes.
David Fredette
Okay. That is some of the other part of that bill is charged directly to wastewater and the landfill - solid
waste I believe. Part of that audit starts with them.
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Alderman Siegel
It is a bigger number. It's just not reflected in this particular line item. It's just a fraction not associated
with that.
David Fredette
Not 100 percent.
Alderman Siegel
Okay now I understand. That makes sense. Thank you. That explains that. On page 88 line item
53452 which is staffing services. Is that hiring a professional recruiter? What is that staffing services
line item on page 88?
John Griffin
That's a temporary staffing person in FY14 that we were successful in hiring for right now and into FY15.
So that was just a short term temporary staff person.
Alderman Siegel
Okay. I appreciate that. Thank you. A couple of remarks and I think that will probably be done for me.
I appreciate that telephone and cellular is none. My hot button. Those cell phones. I appreciate you're
not using them. I got a kick out of line 45213 I believe on page 34 which was the cash over short where
you're actually budgeting to make a positive mistake in your cash management. Should that normally be
budgeted at zero like you're anticipating actually getting it right. It's neither here nor there. I got a
chuckle out of it. I thought I might mention that.
David Fredette
Well we've been budgeting $500 for years. Why break the mold.
Mayor Lozeau
We put it there so he could chuckle.
Alderman Siegel
The $500 mistake in our side. Every year we screw up and take $500 extra dollars from somewhere.
David Fredette
The Motor Vehicle Department alone deals with over $4 million in cash. They do a pretty good job.
Alderman Siegel
That's all the questions I have.
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Chairman Deane
Anyone else have any questions? How is it the department survived without a resource coordinator?
The position that came down from the Mayor's office. What is that person doing?
David Fredette
The Resource Coordinator has actually always done a lot of work for us because they sit right outside
the motor vehicle area in the rotunda and so a lot of their work is done by helping out customers coming
to motor vehicle. Quite a few years ago, that position was created. We put in a cue system so during
our busy times which is usually the first and last weeks of the month, we use the system so when people
come in and there's a wait, they don't have to stand. They can sit, their name is called up, plus the
person helps them a lot prior to going up to the counter. So if they're missing paperwork, they're told
right away instead of waiting for 20 minutes and then finding out they're missing the right papers. The
customers have really liked that position. I've had a lot of positive comments over the years on that.
They also help a little bit with some of the parking tickets. Even though it came directly out of the
Mayor's department, they have always worked with motor vehicle majority of the time. They do do some
other help with other departments when customers are calling in looking for where they go for this or
that. They'll let them know.
Mayor Lozeau
They share the information line with the City Clerk's office.
Chairman Deane
That's answered out front.
Mayor Lozeau
Did you say the phone is answered out front?
Chairman Deane
They sit in the rotunda and answer the telephone from the City Clerk's office.
Mayor Lozeau
It used to be that the City Clerk and the HR Department shared the information line so it didn't bounce
around and send people into voice mail. It wasn't working out so well because when those offices get
busy, there wasn't somebody who could help manage that.
Chairman Deane
So what happens when you press zero? Where does it go? I've never done that.
Mayor Lozeau
If you call the information line?
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Chairman Deane
If you call here and somebody doesn't answer and it says press zero for an operator, who answers the
phone?
Mayor Lozeau
That should go to the information line. So it will either be the City Clerk or the Resource Coordinator and
the backup is my office. We try really hard not to let people get an answering system. We don't always
succeed but we try really hard.
Chairman Deane
Mr. Griffin can you provide me with the PDF for the Operations Analyst position that was moved from
CitiStat. CitiStat doesn't seem to have gone away. It seems like the people have been - well 1 person
anyway. I don't know what happened to the Director.
Mayor Lozeau
The Director's position is eliminated on July 1st.
Chairman Deane
Well so was this person but they've landed somewhere else.
Mayor Lozeau
Well because we made a conscious decision that we wanted to maintain an analyst as I told you when I
brought in a budget and we talked about it during CitiStat time. One of the things that we have been
seeing is that position has grown to do other analyses. So both the Treasurer and the CFO requested
that that position remain because it's worked with them.
Chairman Deane
I thought the reason for abolishing CitiStat was it didn't pan out.
Mayor Lozeau
No that's not correct.
Chairman Deane
Could you tell me why it was abolished again cuz I'm kind of confused now. Why you abolished the
whole department.
Mayor Lozeau
The reason that the department was removed is because we've never put it in as a traditional CitiStat as
far as growing it. We always used it as more of a performance tool and analysis for managers. We've
been successful in putting in some of those processes for departments that have worked with CitiStat.
So the philosophy is behind it that we have benefited from for those efficiencies are now pretty much day
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to day operationally done in those departments. Their work behind it to still have analysis happen from
the perspective of comparing one set of information against another. So for instance all of the work that
you saw provided last year on salaries, all those payroll analyses that Mr. Griffin often referred to and
was credited with all came from CitiStat. So this person in particular did that with the supervision of
CitiStat. CitiStat has been something that has worked really well in the city but it reached a point where
unless we were going to grow it and provide more positions to be able to take on more departments, it
wasn't going to be able to function that way. I think they reached the maximum of what they could do
with 2 people. That's why. I don't think that it didn't pan out. We benefitted significantly from them over
the years.
Chairman Deane
So if they reached a maximum of what they could do with two people - the Director's position has been
eliminated and the other person the Operations Analyst has been removed to Financial Services. Now
that one position can handle the peak of what was obtained.
Mayor Lozeau
That's probably not a fair description of it. What I'm saying is that person is somebody that performed
work not only for all the departments that I talked about that CitiStat has with over the years but also has
been working a lot with Financial Services doing analysis as it relates to budget, contracts, and other
things like that. It was something that was missing from Financial Services to have somebody provide
that extra help to do these analyses. So it made sense to keep that position and not only keep it but add
to it because it related to some of the capital asset work and as it relates to confidential negotiations with
the unions in doing an analysis on costs related to that. So it was requested of the CFO and the
Treasurer for us to consider having that position move into Financial Services.
Chairman Deane
So that's the Operation Analyst. So what about the Director.
Mayor Lozeau
The Director is leaving Alderman Deane. I don't know how many ways I can explain that.
Chairman Deane
You're explaining the way the department would function. So this Operation Analyst was the one that
was doing most of the work for Mr. Griffin through is request?
Mayor Lozeau
No and I'm not going to mitigate the work that Director did.
Chairman Deane
I'm not asking...
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Mayor Lozeau
This person worked at the direction of the CitiStat Director doing analyses on different things. Based on
the level of work that they did, CitiStat worked with Financial Services to determine analyses. The
analysis is only as good as the person who can interpret what has been analyzed. A data analyst this
Operation Analyst does not then tell you what the analysis shows. They simply collect the data and put
it in a format that somebody else can then interpret what it means to them. So the CitiStat Director had
this person collect information based on her direction of the analysis she wanted to have done. So that
happened in DPW. It happened in lots of different departments within the city. Often times that work
was changed, or modified, or added to based on that direction. This is not a person that can work
independent. This is a person that has been performing tasks that have been determined to be
something that we could keep and benefit from in Financial Services.
Chairman Deane
The one person...
Mayor Lozeau
In this instance, yes.
Chairman Deane
Any other questions of Financial Services?
David Fredette
Mr. Chairman I will say that this past year I've had the assistance of that person CERF and some bond
planning. Its help me tremendously. It really has. That CERF schedule if you look at it is very
complicated. There's a lot of work to it. This past year we met with all the departments and made some
changes. We're going to do the same thing in the next few months again. The spreadsheets aren't
exactly perfect. There's a few little problems here and there but hopefully this year we'll get it perfect.
He's been a tremendous help to me anyways in those areas. I hope to use him a lot more in FY15.
Chairman Deane
Mayor while Mr. Fredette is here do you want to go through bonded debt while he's here?
Mayor Lozeau
That would be great.
Chairman Deane
Do you want to do that? Can you do that?
David Fredette
Yes Mr. Chairman.
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Chairman Deane
Does anyone have an objection to it?
David Fredette
The handouts we had from the meeting in April I'm not sure if you...
Chairman Deane
We all still have them. They're still in front of us.
David Fredette
As you remember in April, we had our presentation upstairs on the bond plan. What we try to do every
year is based on approved resolutions or resolutions that we believe are going to be coming forward try
to plan what we're going to sell so that we can keep the bond budget increase at a very reasonable rate.
I think this year it's a one percent increase. We did sell that bond that we discussed in April and May. I
believe you all got information on that. We got a very good rate just under 3 percent. We've had 3
years under 3 percent. I think this year was the last. This year was 2.96 and the rates are going up.
They have been going up for the past year slowly. I think they're going to continue going up. Not a lot
but they're going to continue gradually increasing. Of course it's hard to tell exactly. As I had mentioned
in the plan this year, the majority of the bond was for Broad Street Parkway and next year will be similar.
We'll have the last of that. Depending on what happens with the Broad Street Parkway's budget, we'll
only sell what we believe we'll need. It looks like we won't have to sell everything that has been
approved to sell. We sold more money for enterprise resources planning and another million for
communications, and the school enhancement bond that was approved last year and that was done in
May as I said. Next year we plan to sell the Broad Street Parkway, the last of the enterprise resource
planning along with some school projects and some CERF items. One of them I think was you had a
public hearing on a week or two ago on a fire aerial truck. The whole idea of this is we're trying to plan
the sales so the budget is kept at a minimum given all the other constraints on the city's budget. We're
trying to keep this as flat as possible.
Alderman Siegel
Just one question. I appreciate this is a difficult job. On page 193 in going through all the various bond
rates - okay, okay, okay and then there's that one that sticks out which is the refunding high school
construction which is 4.923 percent. That's a 20.84 initial offering that I don't know where we're at with
that one. It's quite a lot higher than the other ones. I don't know if that's a (inaudible) issue or if that's
something we can look at refinancing or if it's not worth it. That one just jumped out at me. Both the
rate and the amount. Is that something we can take a look at or is there constraints on what we can do
with them?
David Fredette
Yeah I can get you an answer on that.
Alderman Siegel
Okay thanks. That's a big number.
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David Fredette
Yeah I can get you an answer. I don't know the answer tonight but I can get you an answer on that one.
Alderman Siegel
Okay thank you.
Chairman Deane
Purchasing. Mr. Griffin are you going to fill in for Mr. Gabriel who has since retired. Their appropriations
start on page 96. Their revenue stream is on page 36 in the yellow pages.
John Griffin
This particular department has 3 remaining individuals all UAW. The budget is pretty consistent with
prior years. Mr. Gabriel generally used a 5 year average. The change in the wages full time would be
as we just talked about putting in an $83,000 number in the budgetary number in the Purchasing
Manager payroll line.
Chairman Deane
What's the current salary?
John Griffin
Look at the smaller book.
Chairman Deane
That's what I'm looking at here. I saw a 50 in here somewhere. Purchasing Manager $83,000. That's
the new number? It's on page 7 of 37 in the little blue book that I got. So that salary is being ramped up
$13,000?
John Griffin
So the FY14 number of $70,938 would have increased approximately 3 percent into FY15. So that
budgetary number there is the no to exceed. We had prepared this prior to the advertisement but the
advertisement is $82,118 not to exceed. One other point that's pretty easy to explain in this group is
you'll see there's no increase in the 3 union positions. That's because the estimated increase is in
contingency for negotiation. It's part of that $1.3 million in the department 194 - contingency for
negotiations.
Alderman Siegel
Thank you Mr. Chair. Have we considered offering Mr. Gabriel his job back at the new salary?
John Griffin
He was pretty firm on his intentions to me about retiring. I actually texted him today and he's enjoying
his retirement at this point.
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Alderman Siegel
If you're watching Bob, that was for you. Thank you.
Chairman Deane
Any other questions on Purchasing?
Alderman Schoneman
I have a question about advertising on page 96 the budgeted amount for 2014 is $52,000. The actual is
$17,600 and there's a bunch of 49. What is that for and why the budget if we're not spending that
much?
John Griffin
For as long as I can recall, general advertising was placed by the Purchasing Department. One of the
Purchasing Agents places the advertisements with The Telegraph and the Union Leader. This number
has been consistently dropping over time. I think it might have been like $69,000 when I first started and
its dropping. It is to recruit. It is to place ads and recruit new hires used across the city. In addition,
there's other smaller advertisements that are done. This is pretty much a placeholder that we've been
comfortable with. Since I've been here, we've been dropping it.
Alderman Schoneman
So it's mostly for advertisements for recruiting purposes?
John Griffin
Right.
Alderman Schoneman
How else do we recruit besides advertising in the local papers?
Mayor Lozeau
I can tell you Mr. Chairman if I could, we find that we do relatively well in the papers but for a specific
jobs like we weren't getting a lot of response to our ads for the Community Development Director. So
advertising in the trade publications of people that have the credentials that we're interested in really
showed a significant change in those that responded to positions. So a lot of times it depends on the
position. When we were recruiting for IT, we got some folks from that newspaper but again when we
advertised in the trade publications for IT Directors, it was a different group of people. Depending on
what you're doing, we advertised in the newspaper and on line for the Purchasing Manager. We're
doing pretty well with responses to those ads. I think it just depends on the position.
Alderman Schoneman
Where do we advertise on line?
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Mayor Lozeau
Monster.com is usually part of our advertisement, and then we do NH Jobs as well sometimes, and
wherever else might make sense depending on what the position is.
Alderman Schoneman
So we don't anticipate actually spending the 49 most likely?
Mayor Lozeau
We've been seeing that come down over the years. It also pays for some of the advertisement I believe
that goes into the newspaper for bids, and other things as well, and public notices that have to be posted
also come out of there. So depending on how much of that is going on.
Alderman Soucy
Just to be clear because I am fairly new to the budget, if we don't spend all the money in that line item
does that money move to another line item that's needed or is it moved to surplus? How does that
work?
John Griffin
Since I've been here, that line has never been moved to any other line. It could be if needed but it's
never been needed. Surplus is sort of a good thing here in the city. For those new aldermen, we've
appropriated $4.3 million of surplus to buy down the tax rate and every 1.8 million is equal to 1 percent
on the tax rate. Surplus is a good thing. That's why we conservatively budget revenues. Revenues
exceeding budgeted revenues is surplus. Unspent appropriations is an important number as well.
When the rating agencies look at us, the first question is how did you make out in FY13? How are you
tracking in FY14 and if we were saying we budgeted every single expenditure or appropriation to the
penny, they would be as concerned as I would be. You try to be a little bit sensible in some of these
items that you know if things go well, you can actually have surplus. If that was a position, that was a
$49,000 position unless you have that position vacant you don't have any surplus. It's kind of a strategy
of budgeting conservatively on the revenue side. I wouldn't say it's aggressive, I'd just say it's more
sensible to have some type of surplus coming in and not spending every last appropriation.
Alderman Soucy
Right and I'm in agreement 2,000 over 3,000 over but it seems kind of a big number - 27,000 over it just
seems like a big number and we could have reduced that number. That's me.
Chairman Deane
We still can later on if you'd like.
The advertisement for the Purchasing Manager's position as well as a Transit Manager, has the Transit
position been advertised yet?
Mayor Lozeau
No it has not because we're determining the final salary.
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Chairman Deane
Who's charged with hiring Transit, you are?
Mayor Lozeau
No Community Development Director.
Chairman Deane
Okay. So what publication would I find the Purchasing Manager's position advertised in currently?
John Griffin
It was in the Telegraph several weeks ago as well as the Union Leader.
Chairman Deane
Well outside of the...
John Griffin
MMA - Massachusetts Municipal Association and the New Hampshire Municipal Association.
Chairman Deane
Was it on Monster.com?
John Griffin
With the Telegraph, you get the 30 days of Monster.
Chairman Deane
So anything you put in the Telegraph you get Monster.com for 30 whole days?
John Griffin
Correct.
Chairman Deane
And when was the position advertised?
John Griffin
May 20th is the predominant date that I have in my head.
Alderman Siegel
I just want to note that Alderman Sheehan has joined us at 8:34 p.m.
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Chairman Deane
Any other questions of Purchasing? Page 94 building maintenance. I think we kind of got a pretty good
overview.
Jay Hunnewell
We have no revenue Alderman Deane. Our services are valued but unfortunately we do not have any
revenue in...
Chairman Deane
Who gets all the money out of the soda machine down in the basement. Where does that all go? Are
there any questions of Mr. Hunnewell?
Alderman Schoneman
I have a question about electricity on page 94. It was 108 budgeted, 696 spent, and 98. That sounds
like it's tracking downward. Electricity for most folks seem to be going up. How do you wind up with
electricity coming down or is it just a number that was helping to develop a surplus like...
Jay Hunnewell
No you are correct in the fact that the numbers are trending down and that's a direct result of the HVAC
replacement project that was done in FY11 and also the roof replacement that was part of that project.
So we're using a lot less electricity to run the HVAC mechanical equipment at City Hall.
Alderman Schoneman
Great. Thanks.
Chairman Deane
Any other questions of Mr. Hunnewell? See you later Jay. Thank you.Assessing and overlay start on
revenues are on 37 and the appropriations are on page 99. Does anyone have any questions of Mr.
Marino?
Alderman Siegel
Thank you Mr. Chair. Just a quick one. On page 99 the 153628 line of contract services. It's gone now.
What was that previously?
Angelo Marino
That's maintenance for the appraisal software that we utilize and it's been moved to IT's budget.
Chairman Deane
Do you have any open positions right now or are they all filled?
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Angelo Marino
No they're all filled.
Chairman Deane
Do you want to do GIS while you're here?
Angelo Marino
Yes Sir.
Chairman Deane
Does anyone have any questions of this large operating budget of $138,000?
Alderman Siegel
I have no questions on any of the line items but I would like to state publicly I think you guys do a
phenomenal job. It's amazing actually. That's good bang for the buck. Thank you.
Alderman Schoneman
I do have a question the 53500 aerial imagery services. I think you mentioned earlier you're going to be
contracting for some imagery again. How often do we do that? I see $18,000 last year and nothing was
spent and now $24,000 this year. How often do we do that?
Angelo Marino
We do it every two years. We're on a schedule. We have a 6 year contract with pictometry subject to
non appropriations. It's every two years is the flight schedule and that will happen in the spring of 2015.
Mayor Lozeau
Excuse me. Could you let Alderman Schoneman - I don't think you made it clear that the 18 will be
spent.
Angelo Marino
Yes actually the POs are in the works right now. We get a bill for the flight as well as the second year
there's a bill. The POs are in the works right now currently. I finally got the invoice for this current year
for the image contract.
Alderman Siegel
So they just hadn't spent anything up until April 30th. So they fly over the whole city and basically map
the whole city - image the whole city.
Angelo Marino
They image the whole city. They don't map the whole city.
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Chairman Deane
Any other questions of Mr. Marino? Thank you.
Next up Hunt Building and the Library. Would the Directors of the two facilities along with the Chairman
of the Board of Trustees of the Library please come up and join us. You can sit right over here.
The Hunt Building is a revenue account and that starts on page 225.
Public Library Hunt Building
Public Library
Kathy Smith
My name is Kathy Smith. My address is 38 Watersedge Drive in Nashua. I joined the city and work for
the Hunt in December and I love it there. It's a treasure here in Nashua on north Main Street, the old
library. As you probably know, the building was renovated in 2011. We have 6 office spaces which are
currently rented out. We are available for private rental. My goal as a part time employee is to maintain
the building, be the administrator of the building, and also mark the building so we increase the revenue
because the goal is to be self-sustaining.
Chairman Deane
How is the building doing?
Kathy Smith
It's doing great. We're doing well. I think our goal was to have 10 rentals for this year and we have 9
paid rentals so far this year. We're doing pretty well. I think having the increased signage that we have
on the street now...
Chairman Deane
The sign came out nice.
Kathy Smith
Yeah it looks beautiful. We've been doing a lot of internet marketing, our Facebook page is up and
running. I think having presence on line is really important. Our advertising money doing expos - we're
focusing on weddings, birthday parties, just trying to get the name out there. A lot of people in Nashua
don't - citizens believe or not don't know what we do or aren't familiar with the building. It's kind of
reaching to the community to make sure that people know that we are here and available to rent out,
come in, and enjoy the space.
Chairman Deane
It looks like your fuel consumption has dropped as well which is a good thing.
Alderman Wilshire
I had a question about what's going outside of the Hunt Building right now with the yellow scaffolding.
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Kathy Smith
They're doing some masonry work. Nothing major. No major issues just kind of doing some - it should
be wrapping up any time.
Chairman Deane
Did they forget how to get back up there? It's been up there for quite some time. I haven't seen...
Kathy Smith
They were finishing up some last minute projects but I think they've been on and off site. It's just a
matter of the staging coming down now.
Chairman Deane
I have a picture of the Hunt Building totally surrounded with pipe staging at all different angles. I sent it
to Joy Barrett. I have those pictures somewhere. I can e-mail them to you. They're pretty neat looking
back in the original days. The meals function for 2000 is a new line. Can you explain that?
Kathy Smith
This past year we had our first festival of trees. I don't know if anyone was familiar with it where we had
community business donate trees and we had a gala event. People would come in and purchase tickets
to come in and bid on the trees and auction to raise money for our Restore the Doors Fund which we're
hoping to restore the original doors to the building. The line item would be to cover events like that -
catering for an event like that.
Jennifer Hinderer
I think the board and the administrator together we have plans for some other collaborative events with
Great American Downtown that would require catering, coffee, and dessert or pizzas.
Chairman Deane
Okay. Good luck with that in your fundraising efforts.
Alderman Sheehan
I've been to a few events and I think it's a great venue. I've had an event there myself. I think the more
people that attend events become more aware that it is a space that's available for that. I encourage
people if they haven't been to one if you see on is there, stop in. It's a really nice space. There are two
spaces that are open for tenants I assume and not for this rental. Could you describe the spaces and
just how much they are each month if somebody watching wants one?
Kathy Smith
Our office 6, which is the top level of the building it has a lovely - there's skylights and it has a view of
the clocktower and the original glass floor to the building which was blacked out. A lot of people don't
know this for potential air raids during the war. It's kind of unique. The space is very unique and that
rents out for $420 a month. It's approximately 438 square feet and then the second space is on the
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lower level near Great American Downtown office. It rents out for $500 a month. It does have some
natural light and it's more of a rectangular space. So not as unique as the other space but.
Chairman Deane
Have you been up in the tower to see the clockwork. It's pretty neat.
Kathy Smith
I have. It's very neat.
Chairman Deane
It's unbelievable how well that works for its age.
Kathy Smith
Absolutely. There was a nice article - I don't know if anyone saw it in the Telegraph fairly recently about
that. We also just did a Gate City Chronicles interview about the Hunt too. If you get a chance to watch
it.
Chairman Deane
I think Mr. Hunnewell has been up there with his oil can a few times.
Kathy Smith
Oh he has.
Alderman Sheehan
Just one more question. If you're using your meals and functions for fundraising is this a fund you plan
on replenishing from the proceeds of your fundraiser or is this something you just intend to spend?
Jennifer Hinderer
That budget line is actually out of the facilities rental and private event fund. So it will replenish itself.
Chairman Deane
It's a special revenue fund so the revenue that's derived covers the cost of the electricity, the gas, and all
that other...
Kathy Smith
It's not from the general fund.
Chairman Deane
We changed that a couple of years ago I think.
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Alderman Sheehan
I just meant is itself replenishing so once they have an event say to restore the doors, are you taking say
you spent $500 on the event would you be replenishing that account?
Chairman Deane
That building is all about revenue now through the rent. There's no general fund appropriation so the
revenue that's generated through the fees, and rents, and rentals they have along with the office space
they have goes into a special revenue account and funds - that will just be replenished back in.
Alderman Sheehan
Thank you.
Chairman Deane
Any other questions on the Hunt?
Alderman Dowd
I'm just curious. At one point we were looking at handicapped access to that building. Did that just get
put by the wayside?
Kathy Smith
No it is handicapped accessible. We have a handicapped restroom because we do have an elevator in
the building now.
Alderman Sheehan
That reminds me. I had suggested that we look at putting in a wireless doorbell because the
handicapped door is locked. So if someone is not there when you're knocking...
Kathy Smith
We keep all the doors locked during the day just because we do have tenants in the building but people
believe it or not will wander in off the street.
Chairman Deane
Just like the other library.
Alderman Sheehan
Out there you can't hear so a wireless doorbell for like $40 from Home Depot...
Kathy Smith
No we don't currently have one no.
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Alderman Sheehan
So if you're in a wheelchair to go around again to the front and you can't get to the glass where you can
knock and people can hear you as well. That might be a worthwhile investment. Somebody reminded
me of that with the wheelchair access. Thank you.
Chairman Deane
You know Mr. Hunnewell's number. Just call him and run that by him. I'm sure he'll give you a hand.
Any other questions of the Hunt? Thank you for the service you provide and taking care of the building.
Kathy Smith
Thank you.
Chairman Deane
Public Library starts on page 50 is revenue, 164 is your appropriations. Director do you want to give us
an overview? Feel free.
Jen Hinderer
So for those of you who haven't met me yet, my name is Jen Hinderer. I'm in the middle of my fifth year
as Director at the Library. I'm having a great time and I'm happy to be back here. Arthur Barrett is with
me. He's the Chairman of our Board of Trustees. My Assistant Director Jen Hausking would normally
have been but she's happily on maternity leave for another few weeks. She and Nicholas are hopefully
watching from home. Some of you use the library and most of you know us as the place that loans
Nashua citizens books and materials. In fact we still do that. In the first 9 months of this fiscal year,
we've circulated a little over 458,000 items to 68,000 cardholders. We feel pretty good about that. The
circulation of hard items, or print items, and media items is definitely declining. Probably 6 or 7 percent
this year over last year. The circulation of our digital items is EBooks and downloadable audio books
continue to increase. I think it's up about 20 percent to a comparative point last year. We're the biggest
EBook user in the State. So all the libraries in the State belong to a consortium. We are the biggest
users even though we are not the biggest library. Big rivalry with Manchester there. Along with the
circulation and materials, we continue to do a number of things to promote literacy at all ages starting
with our story times and baby times. People don't always think about story times as pre-literacy activities
but they are. Children's librarians are actually literally a child's first teacher. We also now have summer
reading programs for all ages. So the whole family can do a summer reading program at the library and
we have activities throughout the year as well. So that's sort of our most visible function and our most
traditional one and the one most people think of when they think of the library. An equally important and
more quickly growing part of our business is all the other stuff that we do for the community. The way
we support learners of all ages, provide meeting space for community groups, we have computer
classes. So far this fiscal year more than 500 people have taken our computer classes and in fact, we
have a number of staff from other city departments that are signing up and taking them as well. I'm
cooperating with Bruce in the IT Department to promote our classes and our materials. It's a good way
that our two departments work together. His department supports our network and we support them by
training city employees. We also I think people may not know quite how busy we are this way. We
provide free cultural programming and events for anybody in the city regardless of their ability to pay
since they're all free. Already this year over 3,500 people have attended our lectures and movies, which
is really fantastic. A real popular one was we had one on the history of Irish immigrants in March. We
had a local history fair. Those of you who are maybe haven't been yet; you should try to come to one of
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our concert series this summer - box lunch if you can get away from 12 to 1 on Wednesdays. That's
classical music concerts. On Thursday evenings we have concerts on the Plaza. Outdoor concerts
which are a little more family friendly. Kids can run around. I know the Economic Development Director
is working on getting some food trucks up from Boston for the summer. I'm lobbying to have those near
the Library Plaza on Thursdays for our concerts. So that could be exciting.
Chairman Deane
I'll let the Health Department know when they come up. We have any imported bacteria count.
Jen Hinderer
So that's sort of a high level of what we do. People frequently say who uses the library are people still
coming in they can get everything on line. Over 100,000 people have already used our computers this
year and we have on average 1,000 to 1,200 a day come to the library. When we're open on Sundays,
Sundays are actually our busiest day per hour until it gets warm out and then no one comes. So we
close on Sundays. During 2014, we took a number of initiatives. I rearranged the staff not a great deal
but we had a bunch of retirements and changed some duties. We have a new Electronic Resources
Librarian who's focusing purely on our digital resources. She works part time at the Reference Desk and
selects databases and other digital resources that are helpful for customers. Some of you who were
here a couple of years ago will recall that we eliminated a part time security guard position. We've had
to add that back in. The decline in circulation of physical items means we could eliminate a part time
Library Assistant position. So we were able to do that without any additional cost. We've made
significant improvements to the theater, including new seating and a new screen. We rearranged the
way we have our public computers that are all in one area. We expanded and improved our Wi-Fi
access thanks to Comcast. We're implementing the use of I Pads and tablets in a bunch of different
areas in the library. In 2015 we have some bigger plans for the building. We're renovating the east
wing. The Chandler building finally sold and we have some other monies. So we'll add - there will be 3
brand new meeting rooms and 2 small study rooms, and a great deal of seating area for people to work
collaboratively or alone, replace the carpeting in the Children's Room, and another main focus will be
increasing our digital collections, a different EBook service, maybe digital magazines, and we're still
exploring a good business model for streaming video and music for customers. There's not yet a good
one for libraries that doesn't involve $4 per download, which that's not a sustainable business model.
One challenge we're facing is with the decline in circulation of print items, there's a significant decline in
fine revenues. Our fine revenues are down about 30 percent from FY12. Good news for our customers,
more change in their pockets. So you'll see in my budget proposal there were a number of costs that we
shifted that were normally paid out of fines like the discovery layer for our catalog that we're shifting into
the general fund. The fines budget won't sustain that continuously. That's the end of my introduction.
Alderman Soucy
Thank you Mr. Chair. Page 165 under the supplies and materials. I'm looking under your supplies. You
had budgeted $19,000 and it looks to me like you're coming under budget this year which is good. Why
are we adding $4,000 to that line item?
Jen Hinderer
We are working on a new logo and new website. So those extra monies will be spent on new stationery,
library cards, and other things once the new logo is launched. Hopefully some time before the end of
this fiscal year.
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Alderman Soucy
Are we using our dare to begin logo? If I may continue though Mr. Chairman.
Chairman Deane
Yes please.
Alderman Soucy
Again technology operations we have $15,000 budgeted. We're around $10,000 and yet we're looking
at a $12,000 bump. What's driving that?
Jen Hinderer
Well so it looks under spent because of the time in the fiscal year when that column was generated so
we are much more fully spent than that. We're making two changes in that line. We're adding the
funding for the discovery layer. When you go to the library catalog, the discovery layer is bit that lets you
read reviews, comment on it, add tags, and it lets you search all of our databases as well as our catalog.
Those costs were normally funded through fines but we can't afford that for this year. Let me just get to
that so I can look at my other note about that. This is not in technology and operations and
subscriptions, we're eliminating the funding for brain fuse which is our online homework help.
Chairman Deane
That went away right?
Jen Hinderer
It will go away at the end of this fiscal year yes.
Alderman Soucy
Last this one I don't get - hardware maintenance last year 2014 budget of $38,000 and she only spent
$155 and we're looking to moving that budget up to $42,000.
Jen Hinderer
So hardware maintenance, that's a misleading title. That's actually the software maintenance for our
integrated library system which does all of our catalog and all of our circulation. That normally would get
paid in July or August. I am in a dispute with that company over some of the services they're billing us
for. That bill hasn't been paid yet.
Alderman Soucy
What is that bill expected to be?
Jen Hinderer
That bill should have been around $38,000. There's an additional $3,800 or $4,000 that we pay to them
for our self check systems and additional content that we've been paying for out of fines in the past but
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I'm trying to shift that to the general fund. So I expect that $42,000 is honestly what I expect the bill to
be in the next fiscal year.
Alderman Wilshire
Thank you. The library is a very hot topic in my house. I have a 4 year old that loves Thursday night
story times. Thank you for that. A very good service you provide there. Do you apply or get any kind of
E-rate funding?
Jen Hinderer
We do not no.
Alderman Wilshire
Why not?
Jen Hinderer
It's an extremely complicated process for very, very little benefit. I'm not sure - quite frankly I haven't
even looked at it for 2 or 3 years. It comes with restrictions. It's not clear to me what the benefit would
be.
Alderman Wilshire
I asked that because for those of you who that aren't familiar with E-rate, it is a federal program that
takes the FCC charge off of your landline, your cell phone, pools this money - I want to say about $5
billion a year. It's a competitive grant and I know that the Children's Home because we have a school is
eligible. I agree 100 percent with you. It's a complex process. Very complex. In fact I had to outsource
and it's just very complex. I know the School Department does get E-rate funding.
Jen Hinderer
At a previous library I worked at, we went through the process one year and we got less than $2,000
back for the year.
Chairman Deane
2,000 man hours and you got $2,000 check.
Alderman Wilshire
It is a very complex program. I tried to...
Chairman Deane
Why do they do that? They don't have any trouble taking your money, and your landline, and your cell
phone bill.
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Alderman Wilshire
It is a complex process. I couldn't do it myself. I tried the first year, the second year, and then I decided
if we outsource this we'll be better off. We did but I didn't know if...
Jen Hinderer
It's also not clear to me because of the way our access comes through the city itself. I think that would
add even another layer of complexity.
Alderman Wilshire
Well I know they fund schools and libraries and I know that the School Department does get E-rate
funding. Where I work, we get 90 percent discount on our cell phones, our landlines, and our internet.
So for us it's worthwhile because we're at the highest level of reimbursement. I don't know about
libraries where they fall in that...
Jen Hinderer
Our internet and phone lines actually come from the city's IT Department besides our cell phones.
Alderman Wilshire
I'm just curious. Thank you. You do good work over there by the way. Thank you.
Alderman Dowd
I know the School Department it's a lot of work to get the money they get. Books and books of
paperwork that they have to submit. The question I have is in the library building itself is becoming more
and more visible now that whole dam area has been cleaned up and everything. Is there any thought
given to cleaning the outside of the building?
Jen Hinderer
We think about it every day Alderman Dowd. I had Nick Caggiano from Parks and Rec. down last year
to look at our graffiti issue. I think we need to relook at that this year is what we tried was not
successful. We also had Parks and Rec. came and took a number of trees - trimmed a number of trees
away from the building. We actually took down a tree and now that's exposed. We've yield some other
- it made clean spots. That's one of many, many projects that we have on the docket for this summer.
Alderman Dowd
Is there any way you can get special funding for that or special allocation?
Jen Hinderer
I'm not sure. Part of is not the cost so much as we're not able to find a product that will sufficiently
remove the graffiti. The porous nature of whatever concrete they used, we have not been successful. I
think that's the next option. Nick last year discouraged me from doing it and we tried some of the
products that Park and Rec. use. It's still there.
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Chairman Deane
They have some lighter product they can use to probably not...
Jen Hinderer
Hopefully it comes with Teflon coating afterwards.
Alderman Dowd
They have a product to clean just about anything.
Alderman Schoneman
I had one question on the budget then it's just a general question. The budget line it's not much money
I'm just curious. On the bottom of page 164 it says vehicle repairs and maintenance. It's a small
amount of money but what vehicles?
Jen Hinderer
We have our outreach van that we no longer drive and make deliveries in but we still maintain it. The
staff uses it to drive to different schools or when they have something to do in the city. We also have an
antique pickup truck with a plow on it that we use to plow the staff parking lot and the walkway to the
library.
Alderman Schoneman
Where is the staff parking lot?
Jen Hinderer
It's at the end of Pearson Ave. So if you turn right at the Nashua Telegraph building, it's a dead end
right at the dam. It's a beautiful spot.
Alderman Schoneman
So right below. The question I have about the parking lot, that large parking lot that's often full but now
always. Do you have any sense of whether people are parking there to go to the library or what percent
of people park there to go to the library and do you think that the parking rates that are charged there
are somehow influencing people's using the library.
Jen Hinderer
No I don't think the parking rates changed it at all. Those people when it's full it's because they're at the
library.
Alderman Schoneman
Okay great. Thanks.
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Alderman Siegel
Thank you Mr. Chair. I love the library. Where else can you rent a telescope?
Jen Hinderer
Very good point. I forgot to bring that up. That's new this year.
Alderman Siegel
Also that you are the archival location for some of the city's older architectural drawings. My kids grew
up through that. I love the microfiche. I wanted to ask you how the microfiche program is going
because I know you have all the old Telegraphs on line.
Jen Hinderer
To be frank, it stalled so we have some quotes from vendors but we haven't moved forward on that.
Alderman Siegel
That's kind of scary because you wouldn't want to lose that stuff.
Jen Hinderer
We won't lose that. We need to get Jen back from maternity leave and that will hopefully carry on.
Alderman Siegel
Stalled but not for a bad reason. Okay. Thank you.
A couple of questions. I noticed that there wasn't a line item on page 50 for a library fine revenue. I
don't know maybe that's somewhere else.
Jen Hinderer
Our library fines, that's a special revenue fund actually. It shows up elsewhere.
Alderman Siegel
Page 164, I was curious. The overtime regular line 51300 fairly significant overtime. Was that to make
up for staff outages or?
Jen Hinderer
Our overtime budget is primarily spent on our Sunday hours. Every Sunday that we're open costs
approximately $1,300 and then add 3 percent for the staff increase. The other way we spend it is on
plowing and storm cleanup. Our maintenance guy comes.
Alderman Siegel
Okay thank you very much.
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Alderman Sheehan
Thank you. First I'll say I'm a big, big fan of the library. It's always a full parking lot and I think that goes
because so many people are using it. The nice thing about the EBooks is we got one at the house and I
don't prefer to read electronically I'd read paper but sometimes you have to. Like the dog eats the book
report. You can download the replacement without having to run out on a Sunday night. The staff
taught us how to do that and how to use the online resources up in Concord as well. The staff does a lot
more than just the things you see or would normally be looking for there. One of the things that I've
noticed and that broke my kids heart was what happened in the Children's Room with the I Pads.
There's always some ongoing issues outside for various reasons. I'm wondering if you've given thought
about perhaps beefing up external security imaging.
Jen Hinderer
We have and I think that will come along with the east wing expansion. We'll need to add security
cameras in the new wing. At that same time, we'll need to replace our software and we'll add cameras
at least 1 or 2 at the end of the building where the new stairway is and hopefully another one closer to
the parking lot and the children's room side of the building.
Alderman Sheehan
I've memorized my library card. Are you going to make everybody get new library cards?
Jen Hinderer
You will not be forced to but they will be lovely and we will offer them to you for free if you would choose
to get a new card.
Alderman Sheehan
I kind of like how old mine is.
Jen Hinderer
We have families that have asked for them. They have cards in sequential order for their kids and
things. We'll do the best we can to help you.
Alderman Sheehan
I remember when they took the orange one away from me with the metal plate. I still wanted that one.
Well keep up the good work and you might want to put in a plug for the One City One Book since that's
been announced.
Jen Hinderer
The Art Forger is our book for this year. Of course the name of the author escapes me but they'll be
visiting the library in October.
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Chairman Deane
Any other questions of Director Hinderer? Thank you very much for coming in. Jim and Barrett thank
you for all you've added this evening. A quiet guy you really are. Thanks for coming in. Keep up the
good work over there.
Water Supply – Public Hydrants
Street Lighting
Pensions
Debt Service
Miscellaneous Revenue
OUTSTANDING DEPARTMENTAL REVIEWS FROM PREVIOUS MEETINGS
May 19, 2014 Miscellaneous Revenue
Surplus
General Contingencies
Contingency-Retirements
Contingency Negotiations
UNFINISHED BUSINESS – None
NEW BUSINESS – None
TABLED IN COMMITTEE
R-14-033
Endorser: Mayor Donnalee Lozeau
CREATING A SPECIAL REVENUE FUND FROM STATE HIGHWAY FUND BLOCK
GRANTS AND A PORTION OF MOTOR VEHICLE PERMIT FEES FOR ROAD AND
HIGHWAY EXPENDITURES
Tabled pending Public hearing scheduled 6/9/14 at 7 PM in the Aldermanic Chamber
R-14-034
Endorser: Mayor Donnalee Lozeau
RELATIVE TO THE ADOPTION OF THE FISCAL YEAR 2015 PROPOSED BUDGET
FOR THE CITY OF NASHUA GENERAL, ENTERPRISE, AND SPECIAL REVENUE
FUNDS
Tabled pending Public hearing scheduled 6/16/14 at 7 PM at NHS-North Auditorium
GENERAL DISCUSSION - None
PUBLIC COMMENT - None
REMARKS BY THE ALDERMEN
Aldermen Siegel
The gentleman who was here maybe at last week's Budget Committee he was talking about making
announcement to the public that they can e-mail questions in.
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Chairman Deane
Mr. Sullivan - I've got to get a copy of that. I just have to print it out.
Alderman Siegel
So there is a way on the website to take questions from the public. Thank you.
POSSIBLE NON-PUBLIC SESSION - None
ADJOURNMENT
MOTION BY ALDERMAN WILSHIRE TO ADJOURN
MOTION CARRIED
The meeting was declared closed at 9:11 p.m.
Alderman Ken Siegel
Committee Clerk
Agenda
BUDGET REVIEW COMMITTEE
JUNE 9, 2014
7:00 PM Aldermanic Chamber
PUBLIC HEARING
R-14-033
CREATING A SPECIAL REVENUE FUND FROM STATE HIGHWAY FUND BLOCK
GRANTS AND A PORTION OF MOTOR VEHICLE PERMIT FEES FOR ROAD AND
HIGHWAY EXPENDITURES
ROLL CALL
TESTIMONY
REGULAR MEETING
ROLL CALL
PUBLIC COMMENT
COMMUNICATIONS - None
DEPARTMENTAL REVIEWS
Financial Services Financial Services
Purchasing
Building Maintenance
Assessing/Overlay
GIS
Public Library Hunt Building
Public Library
Water Supply – Public Hydrants
Street Lighting
Pensions
Debt Service
Miscellaneous Revenue
OUTSTANDING DEPARTMENTAL REVIEWS FROM PREVIOUS MEETINGS
May 19, 2014 Miscellaneous Revenue
Surplus
General Contingencies
Contingency-Retirements
Contingency Negotiations
UNFINISHED BUSINESS – None
NEW BUSINESS – None
TABLED IN COMMITTEE
R-14-033
Endorser: Mayor Donnalee Lozeau
CREATING A SPECIAL REVENUE FUND FROM STATE HIGHWAY FUND BLOCK
GRANTS AND A PORTION OF MOTOR VEHICLE PERMIT FEES FOR ROAD AND
HIGHWAY EXPENDITURES
Tabled pending Public hearing scheduled 6/9/14 at 7 PM in the Aldermanic Chamber
R-14-034
Endorser: Mayor Donnalee Lozeau
RELATIVE TO THE ADOPTION OF THE FISCAL YEAR 2015 PROPOSED BUDGET
FOR THE CITY OF NASHUA GENERAL, ENTERPRISE, AND SPECIAL REVENUE
FUNDS
Tabled pending Public hearing scheduled 6/16/14 at 7 PM at NHS-North Auditorium
GENERAL DISCUSSION
PUBLIC COMMENT
REMARKS BY THE ALDERMEN
POSSIBLE NON-PUBLIC SESSION
ADJOURNMENT