Finance Committee

REPORT OF THE FINANCE COMMITTEE JANUARY 2, 2013 A meeting of the Finance Committee was held on Wednesday, January 2, 2013 at 7:03 p.m. in the Aldermanic Chamber. Mayor Donnalee Lozeau, Chair presided. Members of the Committee present: Alderman-at-Large Lori Wilshire, Vice Chair Alderman-at-Large David W. Deane Alderman-at-Large Barbara Pressly Alderman June M. Caron Alderman Arthur T. Craffey, Jr. Alderman Paul M. Chasse, Jr. Also in Attendance: John Griffin, CFO/Comptroller PUBLIC COMMENT – None COMMUNICATIONS From: Robert Gabriel, Purchasing Manager Re: Contract Award for Jackson Falls and Margaritas Riverwalk Connection (Value: $47,700) ALDERMAN CHASSE TO ACCEPT, PLACE ON FILE AND AWARD THE CONTRACT TO SAINT’S LANDSCAPING IN THE AMOUNT OF $47,700. FUNDS ARE AVAILABLE IN DEPARTMENT 181, COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT; COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT GRANTS FUND, HUD EDI ’09 SPECIAL PROJECTS – RIVERWALK ON THE QUESTION Alderman Pressly Thank you. I have a question on maintenance of the Riverwalk and I assume the City is maintaining it. What impact will that have on the Park/Rec Department? Mayor Lozeau It’s going to have a lot of impact. It’s hard for Park/Rec right now to keep up with everything. Alderman Pressly It seems like they have so many new responsibilities. Mayor Lozeau They do. We are actually looking at that right now and doing a bit of an analysis of how we are spreading out the work and the responsibilities with Park/Rec. Not only do they have the Riverwalk, but they also have the Rail trail, plus the 900 acres of parks, plus other things that they do throughout the City for landscaping and other things, so we are looking at it. I wouldn’t want to lose the opportunity to use grant funds to continue to work, but we do have to make some decisions around it and how it’s going to be. Finance – 01/02/13 Page 2 Alderman Pressly I’m not suggesting that. I think it’s a wonderful program and I’m very supportive. I did notice this last summer that some of the parks that I walked through, the small ones, looked a little bit in need of some tender loving care. I’m thinking it is probably a result of all these new parks and places. I assume we will be doing something with this next budget. Mayor Lozeau I’m hoping we will have an analysis done before next budget to figure out if there is something we are going to do. We are also trying to figure out if we should take a different approach to how some of this work is done. For instance, you look at all the sidewalks in the city. We have 214 miles of sidewalk. It’s hard to maintain, it’s hard to build it, it’s hard to keep it clean seasonally. One of the things we are talking about, is should we have a sidewalk crew. That’s what they do, sidewalks and crosswalks all year long. That is what they are responsible for. That is one of the things we are talking about and looking at. We are trying to see what the different approaches might me. Alderman Pressly I think it’s a great program and this is the last piece, if I recall. Mayor Lozeau Actually, Front Street has to be done. That is part of the Cotton Mill Project. There is a piece where that ends and still goes to Main Street that has to be done. There is a little piece near the Senior Center and the Library next to June Caron Park, when you go down the steps in that general area. So there are a few other little things. Alderman Pressly It’s a great project. It is nice to have this piece completed. Thank you. Alderman Deane Thank you. On the benches, are those the same as Main Street? Mayor Lozeau No they are not. There is a picture of them, Alderman Deane, and the schematics are about midway in the packet. It looks like this. Alderman Deane So that’s a no. This rain garden, is that going to be irrigated? Mayor Lozeau I don’t know. Alderman Deane It states that the contractor shall supply all labor, materials, tools and equipment to perform the following; construct the rain garden, refer to the planning list attached for details, plan species and quantities required. They are supplying all the planting? Finance – 01/02/13 Page 3 Mayor Lozeau They are. Alderman Deane That is part of all this? Okay. The change procedure, how is this going to work? Is it stipulated sum/price change order based on the proposal request and contract, is fixed price quotation or contractor’s request for a change order as approved by Community Development and Architect and Engineer. So this contract is community development authority to approve change orders? Mayor Lozeau In essence. They might change a plant out, different things like that, but I don’t think they are significant. Alderman Deane But there is no financial change? Mayor Lozeau Right. There should not be any financial change. They are working with Chris Sullivan out of Community Development and he is our landscape architect. I think that is more what they are talking about. They come along and find something has to be moved over by a foot, things like that. Alderman Deane It stated there is a planting detail, but I didn’t see that. I know they have software now because I brought some for my brother a long time ago where you could actually take a picture of a house and put plantings in and what the software did was, you could time lapse and it would show a regular region you were in, the growth pattern of the plantings you put in and where they would be four to five, six to 10, 12, 15 years out. Mayor Lozeau Do you know whether it’s worthwhile having that picture window or no? Alderman Deane Well, that and the fact that in lots of houses you see they always plant everything too close to the foundation and the next thing you know it’s growing up into the siding. It was nice to see a local company ended up with the lowest bid price for the project. Pardon me, I really wasn’t listening too well, but what do we have left to do to get this done? Mayor Lozeau Front Street, I believe and over next to the Senior Center. Alderman Deane Just those two areas? Then it will be done? Mayor Lozeau I would not take an oath on that, but I think that is pretty legit. Finance – 01/02/13 Page 4 Alderman Deane So Front Street? I’m going to write this down, and over by June Caron Park? Mayor Lozeau I think those are the last. Alderman Deane The last big pieces? Mayor Lozeau Yes. The last big pieces. Alderman Deane Is there funding available for that? Mayor Lozeau There is not. Front Street funding is coming from Stabile and also they will be coming back to CBDG because they had money set aside two years of $20,000 each of two years for the city share of splitting the cost of doing that in front of that building. That money had not been used so it went back in the pot to help with resolving some of the properties that we had ownership issues with. So I think the committee expects Cotton Mill to come back and ask for funds to match their funds. Then for the one near the Senior Center, I don’t think there is money available for that yet. Kathy has been pretty successful in getting a lot of this money through HUD. Alderman Deane Is there any idea what the cost would be to finish those last two pieces? Does Kathy know? Mayor Lozeau I’m sure she knows. Alderman Deane I will ask her then. Mayor Lozeau She can give you a map that shows you what is done and what is not done. Alderman Deane Thank you. MOTION CARRIED Finance – 01/02/13 Page 5 From: Robert Gabriel, Purchasing Manager Re: Contract Award for Ethernet Dedicated Internet Access Service (Value: $57,348) MOTION BY ALDERMAN CHASSE TO ACCEPT, PLACE ON FILE AND AWARD THE CONTRACT TO FAIRPOINT COMMUNICATIONS IN THE AMOUNT OF $57,348. SOURCE OF FUNDING IS DEPARTMENT 120 TELECOMMUNICATIONS, GENERAL OPERATING BUDGET FUND, 55 OTHER PURCHASED SERVICES ON THE QUESTION Mayor Lozeau I would just begin by apologizing to the Committee that I had intended to be able to speak to this at the Full Board meeting last week. I was trying to get it done sooner rather than later and I assumed we could have had the Finance discussion at that meeting, but as you know, I was not able to come to that meeting. I was not feeling so well and did not want to get anyone else sick. As we have talked about this and the problems we are having with this, I have been looking at what we could do, there are very few providers that can provide this service for us. Currently the city is running on 1.5 megabits and this is to change us up to 50. The biggest problem that we have had with the system is we are adding more information online, like mapping and things like that, at the same time that Lawson system is getting traffic out of City Hall and we have a lot of traffic going out that we did not have before. Now the Human Capital Management System is going online this week and that will be more traffic going out again and that is what we have been worried about. We have been watching it, and where it’s spiking and where it’s having problems and all Alderman Deane, you mentioned the time you were having problems. That day happened also to be a day where we had an email with a large attachment go out at the same time. All these different things are happening at the same time. Two vendors that we can get this from direct, FairPoint or Comcast, we already have a receiving service from FairPoint so they were able to negotiate a very favorable price. Almost 50 times than what we have today. It will take them about three weeks to get it online and operational. Comcast, it would have taken them about six weeks. One of the other factors that was really important to IT when they were looking at this and making recommendations, is distance, which may sound a little bit silly, but when you have bad weather and you worry about your system going down or something snapping, the shortest distance you have to travel is beneficial. With FairPoint, the connection is here on West Pearl Street. With Comcast the connection is up at Rivera University. Both of them are going to use fiber, so that was equal. Comcast, their metro business has not really been tried yet in New Hampshire. It is just coming into the market. FairPoint, this option that they have here has been put in three or four different large districts in the state, school districts or municipalities so it has just been out here a little bit longer. One of the things you will that is different than what was brought in last week, was that we were able to maintain the same price but go down from a three-year contract to a one-year contract with two one-year options. Alderman Deane you had asked the question about three years, as did Alderman McCarthy as did I and IT was not sure whether they were going to be able to maintain that same price point. We were able to do that, so it is one year with two one-year options. That is what you have tonight. I’m happy to answer any other questions I can. Alderman Deane Thank you. I read through this, and what I saw was that we would have a dedicated line that would be solely ours. The fiber that we have running down Main Street, past Rivera University, that couldn’t be utilized if we used Comcast? Mayor Lozeau No. Finance – 01/02/13 Page 6 Alderman Deane Why not? Mayor Lozeau This is for a dedicated line for just this. They will run it themselves. They will bring a new line into City Hall, that is just how they do it. Alderman Deane Why would it take six weeks? Mayor Lozeau I don’t know. That is just the answer they gave us. That was one of the questions that was asked. Alderman Deane What was their price? Mayor Lozeau There price was $100 less a month than FairPoint. Alderman Deane Their contract is expiring this year. Mayor Lozeau No, it’s not expiring this year. Alderman Deane It was a 10-year contract. Mayor Lozeau I know, I think there is 30 months left on it. They just sent us a letter that came to myself and CTAB about the interest in studying a negotiation for the franchise contract. But that is not internet. That is cable/video. Alderman Deane I understand that. It’s a big stick that we hold as a community. Mayor Lozeau Actually, I don’t think it’s a big stick for this purpose. Other communities have tried it and Comcast is not willing to work that as part of this agreement. I don’t know that it would be appropriate either. Alderman Deane That’s what negotiations are all about. Finance – 01/02/13 Page 7 Mayor Lozeau I understand that, Alderman Deane. This also will get rid of the T-1 line which I know that you ask about from time to time. Alderman Deane We will still have how many? Just the T-1 line. What are we using now. What do we have, one? Mayor Lozeau 1.5. Alderman Deane We just upgraded and we went to 100 with Comcast. It was a T-1 line that the provider was One Communications, and what a difference. My other question is, on the technology that has been used in the past and it’s being used today by people who work for the City Government has changed significantly. The products, like the scanners … Mayor Lozeau Very different. Alderman Deane If you go back a few years and take a scanner of that age and you go to use it and you did not have the Pixel and the high resolution that you have now. Now if they took a finance agenda like this and pushed it through a high resolution scanner and then brought it over to a PDF file, I don’t know if you can compress that, but just the high resolution alone creates this file that is huge. Then when you try to download it, it takes forever to download it. Where a high resolution scanner would be great for something like this, but for something like this, it’s not necessary, but I don’t know if there are any options that are available to the staff because of the equipment that we own. Am I wrong about this? Mayor Lozeau No, there are different settings for scanners that we use throughout the building for different offices depending on what it is that they are scanning, settings can be changed. Alderman Deane Are they being changed when they are scanning? Can you compress a PDF file? Mayor Lozeau Yes, we can compress a PDF file. Alderman Deane Why aren’t they compressed? Mayor Lozeau I think it depends on which department is doing it. Finance – 01/02/13 Page 8 Alderman Deane If you go to pull meeting minutes down and things like that, I get some files that are 37 megabytes. There might be 22 pages of minutes. Did we anticipate having this sort of problem? Mayor Lozeau We did. Alderman Deane We did. Mayor Lozeau We knew that with Lawson, because we were going to host it somewhere else, that the staff was going to have to be going online to reach out and do their work and get information, which frankly is one of the things we are looking at to have more of that and less hardware here. Alderman Deane Yes, but you have an internet and an intranet, right? So what is this going to service? Just the in-house? Mayor Lozeau No. The Internet is what the staff is using for Lawson, not the Intranet. Alderman Deane So there is no H in what you are using. Mayor Lozeau That is correct. It is being held offsite. Being hosted offsite. To access it they go online to do their work. We knew that was going to increase our bandwidth needs. Alderman Deane So the Intranet is used for what? Mayor Lozeau Internal stuff, getting to the S-Drives for different departments, things like that. Alderman Deane Isn’t the S-Drive part of where all this is being stored off-site? Mayor Lozeau No. Finance – 01/02/13 Page 9 Alderman Deane Why not? Mayor Lozeau I don’t know. I am just telling you that for Lawson, that is off-site. Human Capital Management, that is going to be off-site. Alderman Deane Human Capital Management, is that payroll? Mayor Lozeau That’s payroll. We are going to be looking at trying to find someplace to host our GIS maps because those are very download intensive. As we use more maps instead of less anticipate there will be more of that going on. Alderman Deane What is the advantage of the S-Drive? Alderman Chasse Lawson is the same as my ADP. It’s a web based product. If I’m going to do my payroll in ADP, I log into ADP, do all my work on my computer, but it is also on their server. Everything I do, I send to them. They do all the payroll, all the checks, everything, whatever needs to be done. All I do the next day, is when they tell me they are all done is I load one file. One file comes back in. Actually, there are two in payroll. There is one is cumulative and one is that payroll checks. That is it. There is really no big server for myself at work to do my work. It is all done in the background by ADP or Lawson. It would do work the same way for accounts payables, receivables. They can log in and they can do all their work, but it is really being done at the Lawson headquarters. All you do is download the file of all the work you did. Mayor Lozeau As far as the S-drive that you are talking about on the Intranet, internally, a benefit to that is all the employees have access to it when they are working, so they can pull up something at DPW or Community Development, access maps, plans, whatever they may need. Alderman Deane But the files that are created by Lawson, currently are too large with the bandwidth that we currently have to adequately move the data. Mayor Lozeau It’s not so much moving the data. That’s one piece of it. It’s accessing the data off-site. It’s too many employees on line when there didn’t used to be. So you get the outgoing traffic that is greater than we had before, which we expected would happen and then you have the incoming traffic. We are getting people more interested in getting online and getting access to information. For instance, when we did the emergency mapping, we had people going on excited to see real-time mapping, but they are waiting 20 minutes to download the map. That’s not helpful. Finance – 01/02/13 Page 10 Alderman Deane So, basically the S-Drive is becoming somewhat archaic then? Mayor Lozeau No, it’s not. If it becomes archaic, then it’s going to be an internal (102148) Alderman Chasse It’s a shared drive. Alderman Deane More people are going out of the building to access the Lawson. Mayor Lozeau There is so much more than accounts payable and payroll. Alderman Deane I understand that, but with Lawson it took all of that because it was ADMINS before that was all in-house. It was housed on our own server. Now we have taken all of that and put it on an external server. Mayor Lozeau Although we are still keeping all the old ADMINS information. Alderman Deane But it’s stored. It’s not accessed. Mayor Lozeau It’s accessed, but not as often and it will get less so. Alderman Deane As time goes on there is less. Mayor Lozeau Less need to go in it. Alderman Deane Basically, it is the amount of traffic going out of the building to access the new software. Mayor Lozeau One of the biggest drivers are the problem. Finance – 01/02/13 Page 11 Alderman Deane Basically, it’s financial. What else is Lawson? Mayor Lozeau It’s financial. Alderman Deane It’s strictly financial, it’s all it is. Mayor Lozeau Right now. Alderman Deane Well, that is what we have paid for, right? Mayor Lozeau Right. Alderman Deane How far along are we with that whole project, is it almost completed? Mayor Lozeau We’re pretty close. It’s up and operational. We are doing our first year-end stuff, getting that done. Alderman Deane When is the payroll going to be completed? Mayor Lozeau It should be January/February as I have been telling you. We should be able to have a report out to show you. We are running our first payroll with Lawson this week. We are all holding our breath. Alderman Deane If you allow me a little leeway? Are there subcategories of positions in each department? When I go into an old 2011 payroll account that shows a total number of employees, it used to show what was requested, what was approved, so on and so forth. Then as the expenditures come through, when we get that payment register, when you look at those different departments, are there subcategories that show the positions and how much is paid out per position? Mayor Lozeau I don’t know the answer to that, but I can ask. Was there on the last warrant? I cannot recall. We should be able to do a report that mimics the one that you had in the warrant when the payroll was included. Finance – 01/02/13 Page 12 Alderman Deane When you look at overtime in a department, it’s just one large clump. Mayor Lozeau Was that how it was in the old warrant? Alderman Deane No, it did not give the employee’s name, it gave the position. I’m not looking for anybody’s name. Mayor Lozeau I’ve asked Miss Evans if we can run a report that provides all the same information that the old report did and I have been told yes. Alderman Deane So this is for a year? Mayor Lozeau This is for a year with two one-year options. Alderman Deane Who approves the one-year options if we choose to do so? Is it the Finance Committee? Mayor Lozeau No. I intend to bring it to the Full Board for a multi-year contract. Alderman Deane If it’s a multi-year contract, but it’s not, right now there is just options in a contract. Say the option was going to be exercised, how would it be approved? Mayor Lozeau It’s an automatic option to exercise the additional year each time, so for a total of three years, unless the client, the City, says no thank you, we don’t want to have another year with you. Alderman Deane And you are the client? Mayor Lozeau Yes. What this buys us is if technology changes or a better product comes on the market or we find out that we need more than 50, or whatever it might be. Finance – 01/02/13 Page 13 Alderman Deane I think it should come back to the Finance Committee, but that’s just my personal opinion. Thank you. Mayor Lozeau You’re welcome. Maybe the Full Board might be able to understand why. Alderman Deane I support the increase. I don’t support the renewal option. I think that is our responsibility as a committee. Alderman Pressly I am confused by a lot of this. Part of all this that has affected me and I believe the citizens of Nashua, is the city website. As you mentioned earlier, Alderman Deane brought up and I did also, that I was busy at the Apple Training Center when the website went down and a time before that it was very slow in getting access. I thought that the website was part of the issue and the President of Board criticized me for connecting the two and they seemed pretty well connected to me. I am not sure what the problem is and if this will really solve it. I trust it may help it at one time, but I have heard different theories as to what happened. Some people say it was the ERP access that caused it to crash, we did not know if it was the website. Is our city website connected to all of these other things? Mayor Lozeau No. Alderman Pressly Then what has caused the website to crash? Mayor Lozeau There is a piece that you could say is related when people go on the website to try to download a lot of information. Websites never really crashed, it is slowed. When we have lost the website, it was not because of a bandwidth issue, it was because of a wire issue, something which can happen to anybody. I don’t want to describe it. Alderman Deane Something came unplugged? Mayor Lozeau So to speak. FairPoint has had to come in and repair things. But this bandwidth issue is very specific. Think of it as a highway with a lot of traffic on it. Sometimes traffic is all heading in this direction and you’re happy you’re doing the reverse commute. Sometimes, it doesn’t matter where you are, it’s bad. It all depends on what everybody is doing at the same time. This is destined to help that. Alderman Chasse Number of users. Finance – 01/02/13 Page 14 Alderman Pressly Question. So as an Alderman, if I go on the website and want to print out minutes of something two or three years ago? Mayor Lozeau That could have an impact on this for bandwidth, but it also could be your system and not the City system. We have had people who have had trouble, it has nothing to do with us. Alderman Pressly I’ve looked into this. I thought it was myself and my Apple. It turns out to be the internet that cuts me off. I know that. But that is the type of thing that is causing this overload so to speak. Mayor Lozeau I am not an expert by any means. Alderman Pressly But certainly you know much more than I do. Mayor Lozeau What I am trying to say is, there are times when any number of things happening at the same time are going to impact it. It’s going to be you are going on to download something, somebody sent out an email that they shouldn’t have with a huge attachment at the same time that the AP Department is online doing the bills for the month. When all that happens at the same time we have issues. If they are by themselves maybe not. The weather can relate to it. There are just so many things that could impact it. But the fact that we are at 1.5 megabits today, my home is faster than that. Alderman Deane Is that dial-up? Mayor Lozeau It’s a T-1 line. That’s a problem. Alderman Pressly I support this. I just wish I understand the relationship to the website because I think that is the part that affects the citizens who want to access information. Just a question related to the website, do we ever purge that? Who is in charge of accessing the website and who is allowed to access the website in order to enter things or delete things? Mayor Lozeau There are a lot of people that have access to our website to enter things. People put things in folders that get downloaded, like minutes. Other people are the only ones allowed to put a banner across the top, talking about an emergency. Finance – 01/02/13 Page 15 Alderman Pressly Who is in charge of the whole thing? Mayor Lozeau IT is responsible. Alderman Pressly Ok. It’s their department that is in charge of that. I certainly will trust those of you who know much more about this. Mayor Lozeau They are making the recommendations. They have been doing the work related to it. Alderman Pressly I do feel better that it’s a one-year.. What little I have learned, although I have learned a lot, is that things change so quickly and one year is a long time in this type of business. Thank you. Alderman Craffey Thank you. Fifty is not too much. Who came up with 50 megabytes? I work in a hospital. We have one gigabyte and that’s slow for info that we download. Who came up with fifty? Was it an IT recommendation? Mayor Lozeau It is the IT recommendation. Backed up by the vendors. Alderman Craffey If we have to go to 100, for example … Mayor Lozeau They have given us fixed pricing for the life of the contract. Alderman Craffey We will then have to come back here to be approved? Mayor Lozeau For an increase in price, I would image. Alderman Craffey I feel better that we have the one-year option. I still agree with Alderman Deane, I think it should come back to us for approval every year. I do agree with that. Thank you. MOTION CARRIED Finance – 01/02/13 Page 16 UNFINISHED BUSINESS - None NEW BUSINESS – None DISCUSSION Alderman Pressly I just have a couple of items. It’s interesting to come into City Hall and see what is taking place. I do not remember that we discussed much that was taking place in the ceiling. There is a lot of wiring work taking place in the Clerk’s office. Was that anticipated? Is it just upgrading. Is that being done in all the rooms? Mayor Lozeau They are changing the location of where the wires are coming in and going down and wiring the counter for all the computers and that sort of thing. Alderman Pressly Thank you. The other thing is, it seems like after a year of rest, we are now having snow removal. It was interesting to me, today, that they removing the snow on Main Street. I had forgotten they have to block one whole block in one direction to do that. Has that always been the way they remove the snow on Main Street? Mayor Lozeau Actually, they usually remove it at night, they get paid overtime for it, it was during the holiday. There was one area downtown that they just ran out of time and could not get to so they finished it today. Alderman Pressly That was really my question. I thought that was usually done when there was not traffic. So that is a change this time. Mayor Lozeau They have done that before. If you run out of time, just the way the two storms hit, they just didn’t have enough people and enough time. Alderman Pressly I understand that. Mayor Lozeau That happens time-to-time. We try to do it at night. Alderman Deane I guess I can wait until the Record of Expenditures. Thank you. Finance – 01/02/13 Page 17 RECORD OF EXPENDITURES MOTION BY ALDERMAN CHASSE THAT THE FINANCE COMMITTEE HAS COMPLIED WITH THE CITY CHARTER AND ORDINANCES PERTAINING TO THE RECORD OF EXPENDITURES FOR THE PERIOD DECEMBER 15, 2012 TO DECEMBER 28, 2012 ON THE QUESTION Alderman Deane I had put a request in for information on a couple of items. I wonder if Mr. Griffin had completed that yet? Mayor Lozeau Mr. Griffin, yes. Was it an email Alderman Deane Yes it was. Mayor Lozeau And you emailed back? Yes he did. Alderman Deane What time did you email back? Alderman Pressly Today. Mayor Lozeau That is what he said, 3:30 p.m. Alderman Deane Do you have a copy of the email with you? Mayor Lozeau Great. If you could give it to Alderman Deane that would be good. Alderman Deane Thank you. Mayor Lozeau Would you like to review it before we move on? Alderman Deane Finance – 01/02/13 Page 18 I had questioned a $15,000 liability claim to Darrell’s Music Hall. The payment is for damages incurred when a rainstorm caused water damage to a construction area. Mayor Lozeau That’s when we were doing the sidewalk in front of Darrell’s. We had that hurricane-like rainstorm, September 28, around about there and long withstanding rain that night, through the night, came in and damaged some piano’s and the floor and a wall at Darrell’s and Risk had Darrell’s look into it and investigate the claim and respond to it. That was the amount that was the amount that was settled and agreed to. Alderman Deane I believe that claim should have been approved by this Committee. It exceeded $10,000 and it was a claim that should have been approved by this Committee and that was not done. That is just my opinion. Do you disagree with me? Mayor Lozeau I really do not know the answer to that. Risk frequently works on insurance cases. They are not always approved by this Committee. Alderman Deane Well, payments like that are. Mayor Lozeau I will speak to the Risk Manager about it. Alderman Deane Thank you. MOTION CARRIED PUBLIC COMMENT - None POSSIBLE NON-PUBLIC SESSION ADJOURNMENT MOTION BY ALDERMAN CRAFFEY TO ADJOURN MOTION CARRIED The Finance Committee meeting was adjourned at 7:46 p.m. Alderman Paul M. Chasse, Jr. Committee Clerk