Human Affairs Committee
Regular MeetingNashua, NH · October 3, 2013
Minutes
HUMAN AFFAIRS COMMITTEE
OCTOBER 3, 2013
A meeting of the Human Affairs Committee was held Thursday, October 3, 2013 at 7:00 p.m. in the
Aldermanic Chamber.
Alderman-at-Large Lori Wilshire, Chairman, presided.
Members of the Committee present: Alderman Diane Sheehan, Vice Chair
Alderman June M. Caron
Alderman Mary Ann Melizzi-Golja
Alderman Daniel T. Moriarty
Also in Attendance: Officer Adamson, NPD
PUBLIC COMMENT – None
COMMUNICATIONS - None
UNFINISHED BUSINESS- None
NEW BUSINESS – RESOLUTIONS
R-13-141
Endorsers: Mayor Donnalee Lozeau
Alderman-at-Large Lori Wilshire
Alderman Diane Sheehan
Alderman Richard A. Dowd
Alderman Mary Ann Melizzi-Golja
Alderman June M. Caron
Alderman Michael J. Tabacsko
Alderman Kathy Vitale
Alderman Arthur T. Craffey, Jr.
Alderman-at-Large Barbara Pressly
RELATIVE TO THE ACCEPTANCE AND APPROPRIATION OF $50,193 FROM THE
UNITED STATES DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE INTO POLICE GRANT ACTIVITY “2013
JUSTICE ASSISTANCE GRANT (MULTI-JURISDICTIONAL)”
MOTION BY ALDERMAN WILSHIRE TO RECOMMEND FINAL PASSAGE
ON THE QUESTION
Officer Adamson
We call this the JAG grant, Justice Assistance Grant. We apply for it every year. It’s good for a
three-year period so this overlaps with other JAG funding. This year the money is being used for
similar projects: community policing events such as the block party that we just had to man officers
there. We do crime prevention and that basically pays for me to go to the crime watch meetings that
we have throughout the city. It pays for the citizens academy, rape aggression defense class, our
RAD class. It also pays for equipment funding. This year that equipment funding is going to be
allocated for our mountain bike unit. We have three or four new bikes; “new” being two years old.
Then the others are at least ten to 12 years old. We have one of the members that is basically putting
band aids on it so it’s going to outfit the mountain bike unit. With our staffing, we’re able to get the
bikes out more than we’ve ever have been in the past so we figured that was a good place to put the
money. There’s no matching funds so the money doesn’t have to kick any money into that.
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MOTION CARRIED
R-13-144
Endorsers: Mayor Donnalee Lozeau
Alderman-at-Large Lori Wilshire
Alderman Diane Sheehan
Alderman Richard A. Dowd
Alderman Mary Ann Melizzi-Golja
Alderman June M. Caron
Alderman Michael J. Tabacsko
Alderman Kathy Vitale
Alderman Arthur T. Craffey, Jr.
RELATIVE TO THE ACCEPTANCE AND APPROPRIATION OF $102,928 FROM THE
STATE OF NEW HAMPSHIRE DEPARTMENT OF SAFETY INTO POLICE GRANT
ACTIVITY “2012 HOMELAND SECURITY GRANT PROGRAM”
MOTION BY ALDERMAN SHEEHAN TO RECOMMEND FINAL PASSAGE
ON THE QUESTION
Officer Adamson
This came about through the State Department of Homeland Security. They had some funds left
over from 2012. They decided with what happened down in Boston to allocate it to the two bomb
units, us and the state police. This is what we got. We’re using it to upgrade our EOD robot as well as
purchase two bomb technician suits, a ballistic helmet and a ballistic shield. This also has no
matching funds involved.
Alderman Moriarty
Who decides what the money is spent on within your department? Is it just the department or are you
instructed?
Officer Adamson
As far as this goes, I’m not head of this device unit. The state came to me as the grant manager and
said we’re allocating this money to the bomb unit. I met with Lt. Paulson, the commander, and he
came up with what they were going to do. We’ve had this robot, I believe, since we got our bearcat
and that was in ’05. It’s definitely in need of some software upgrades as well as some modifications
to the structure itself. He was the one that came up with the items that they needed. There are more
technicians on the team and the suits were getting outdated as well.
MOTION CARRIED
NEW BUSINESS – ORDINANCES - None
TABLED IN COMMITTEE
MOTION BY ALDERMAN MELIZZI-GOLJA TO TAKE FROM THE TABLE O-12-21
MOTION CARRIED
Human Affairs – 10/03/13 Page 3
O-12-21
Endorsers: Alderman Mary Ann Melizzi-Golja
Alderman June Caron
Alderman Michael Tabacsko
Alderman Diane Sheehan
Alderman Richard A. Dowd
AMENDING THE COMPOSITION OF THE REVIEW AND COMMENT COMMISSION
Also assigned to Personnel; Final Passage Recommended – 8/20/12
Tabled 9/6/12
MOTION BY ALDERMAN SHEEHAN TO RECOMMEND FINAL PASSAGE OF O-12-21
ON THE QUESTION
Chairman Wilshire
This was brought in to change the composition of the Review & Comment Commission essentially
removing the alderman from being a voting member of the commission. I’m okay with that, however,
I feel personally that this body, the legislative body, shouldn’t’ remove themselves completely. I think
we still should have a voice in how this is set up. I would like to see us amend this even further.
What I would like to see is on the second page under section A(2), Five Commissioners shall be
Nashua citizens representing a cross section of the community. They shall be appointed by the
Mayor and confirmed by the Board of Aldermen.” My recommendation would be that the Mayor
appoint three and that the Board of Aldermen appoint two. That kind of keeps us with a voice at the
table even though we don’t have a vote. We can at least appoint two of the commissioners while the
mayor gets three appointments. I think this was set up initially so that both branches of government
had some input so that there was no favoritism from one side or the other. To me it feels like if we
move all the appointments to one branch that the other kind of doesn’t have quite as much stake at
the table so that would be my recommendation. The Board of Aldermen does make other
appointments, the board of health and things like that, so it’s not unprecedented. I’d like some
feedback if anybody has any.
Alderman Caron
If the Board of Aldermen is appointing two members of this committee, they are still citizen members?
Chairman Wilshire
Right. It wouldn’t’ be an alderman. In fact what this does is this keeps a liaison position which would
be an alderman but not a voting member of the Review & Comment Commission.
Alderman Caron
I don’t have a problem with that.
Alderman Sheehan
The Board of Aldermen is currently confirming the Mayor’s appointments to this on the other four that
aren’t an alderman liaison with voting privileges. I’m wondering for a check and balance would the
mayor be confirming the Board of Aldermen’s two?
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Chairman Wilshire
No, the Mayor doesn’t confirm our appointments.
Alderman Sheehan
I’m just trying to talk through the process, that’s all.
Chairman Wilshire
My point would be to give the administration three seats at the table and the board of aldermen have
say in the other two seats. That’s just my votes.
Alderman Sheehan
Off the top of my head, I can’t remember, did we make it so the liaison is the Human Affairs chair?
Chairman Wilshire
That’s how the current ordinance reads. I think for future appointments it should be that way. There
are a lot of liaison positions that are spelled out that way. I think it makes sense to keep that.
Alderman Sheehan
My original concern was that a lot of these liaison positions, if it’s not a voting position, somebody
doesn’t necessarily shows up. Voting gives them a vested reason, but making it the human affairs
makes sure that it is someone that is very knowledgeable on it and understands how it’s going to go.
I’m less concerned as long as the right person is going to be at the committee and have a vested
interest in going. I’m wondering if our confirmation process is our seat at the table, however we had
some concerns previously with somebody that we were reconfirming. That kind of got held up for
awhile. There’s still a gap with we just won’t send him back in for reconfirmation. I think whatever we
set up if you want to you can run a truck through the way that the wording is. I think our opportunity is
having the confirmation process, but whether or not we act on that is another thing. My concern
initially was just taking a person off. I feel having the Chair of Human Affairs solves that problem or
concern.
Chairman Wilshire
The chair of human affairs or a member of the human affairs committee?
Alderman Sheehan
Was it a member? I thought it was the chair.
Chairman Wilshire
No, it’s just a member.
Alderman Sheehan
Okay that works too, just somebody who needs to participate in this process and understands how it
fits in with community development block grants and the overall picture of what we’re trying to do.
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Alderman Melizzi-Golja
I think when we first began having meetings with members of Review & Comment about the process
and how they fit into the bigger piece of supporting programs and agencies in the city, that’s what we
heard from them. They weren’t aware of some things. I’m comfortable with it being a member of
Human Affairs and the alternate also being a member of Human Affairs. I think that would make the
most sense so they are directly tied back to the committee.
Alderman Moriarty
What’s wrong with having the Aldermanic liaison be a voting member?
Alderman Melizzi-Golja
The concern that’s been raised is that by one of the commissioners being a voting member that
alderman has direct influence on one of the subcommittees that’s looking at a fifth of the grants so
has the potential to have influence. That person is then voting on the financial breakout for
organizations, and then is getting another vote when that whole package is brought back here. When
we talked about the process way back in March, Alderman Pressly was commenting on the process
and her thoughts about the process. She made a comment that I think sums up how I feel about it
also. She said her feeling was that the Board of Aldermen should have as little involvement in
determining how those funds are awarded as possible at the committee, at the Review & Comment
level. Our work should be when it comes to the Board. So this would take an alderman out of that
direct interaction in voting but have them there to act as the liaison to make sure whatever support
they need is available, that minutes are being posted, that minutes are being noticed appropriately
and they have whatever else they need to function as a committee but would not be voting directly on
what’s going to then come before the Board and they would have another vote on.
Alderman Moriarty
Do we know how many commissions that the liaison is a voting member? Certainly the Capital
Improvements Committee is one where they are a voting member.
Chairman Wilshire
We’ll run down. Board of Ed, no. Fire commissioners, they’re not voting members. Board of Health,
no. Board of Police Commissioners, no. Board of Public Works, no. BPW Pension, I don’t believe
they’re a voting member. Broad Street Parkway, BIDA ?
Alderman Sheehan
I’m not sure.
Chairman Wilshire
What about Cable TV Advisory?
Alderman Sheehan
I’m not sure.
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Chairman Wilshire
I don’t’ know about that one either. CERF?
Alderman Moriarty
None of us are on those.
Chairman Wilshire
Capital Improvements.
Alderman Moriarty
That’s for sure. Capital Improvements is one. The alternate liaison is not a voting member on Capital
Improvements, oddly enough.
Chairman Wilshire
But the liaison is a voting member?
Alderman Moriarty
Ya.
Alderman Sheehan
I am a member of the Historic District Commission. As a liaison I do have voting rights. If I’m not
present my alternate does have voting rights. However it has come up that that alternate was voting
while I was voting and that was prohibited. They are allowed one vote as a liaison or their alternate
but both may not vote.
Chairman Wilshire
What about the Child Care Advisory?
Alderman Caron
That’s no longer.
Chairman Wilshire
It’s still on the list. Continuum of Care, that’s not a voting member. Conservation Commission.
Alderman Moriarty
Nope.
Chairman Wilshire
Not a voting member. Conway Ice Rink.
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Alderman Caron
I think he must be. That’s Paul.
Chairman Wilshire
Paul Chasse and Alderman McCarthy is the alternate. 14 Court Street, Downtown Improvement. I
don’t’ know some of these if they are or not, but I know there are a number of them that they are.
Alderman Melizzi-Golja
I am a voting member on Ethnic Awareness but I am there not in a liaison position but as a member
of the Ethnic Awareness Committee.
Chairman Wilshire
But you are the liaison.
Alderman Melizzi-Golja
It’s there as a liaison but if you read it, the Mayor has someone to represent them, the Board of
Aldermen has someone to represent them.
Chairman Wilshire
That’s the same thing with Review & Comment. The mayor has someone there to represent her, and
the Board of Aldermen has someone there to represent them. It’s the same thing. I think that’s the
kind of point you’re getting at, right Alderman Moriarty?
Alderman Moriarty
I’m just curious why there are and why there aren’t some in cases.
Chairman Wilshire
Right now the mayor has a vote. The mayor’s representative is a voting member of Review &
Comment, and a member of the Board is a voting member of Review & Comment. I don’t want to
give up all of our voice at the table. That’s my only problem. I don’t think that the Mayor or the
administration should have all five appointments and we confirm them. I think ti was set up this way
intentionally so that both branches had some say at the table.
Alderman Sheehan
In the research, we went all the way back to the creation, that was the intent: to keep it mixed. I’d
like to hear the sponsor’s position on that, but I see that that would honor the intent. I’m just not sure
how logistically it would work but I see the intent being there.
Alderman Melizzi-Golja
I’m comfortable with this because as you said, Alderman Sheehan, the intent was that the Mayor and
the Board of Aldermen would have representatives but not necessarily that a member of the Board of
Aldermen would be the representative. Just like the mayor doesn’t sit there. It’s one of the mayor’s
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representatives. I’m very comfortable amending ti that there would be five commissioners, three
appointed by the mayor and two appointed by the board of aldermen. In talking to Alderman
McCarthy about this, I would anticipate he would look towards Human Affairs to maybe make
recommendations to him as to people who might be interested in participating and being nominated
as one of the commissioners as well as some of the other committees that we have that are involved
with programs in the city.
Alderman Moriarty
I’m sort of not convinced. My instincts say when in doubt, leave it out or leave things alone if they
don’t’ need to be repaired. You pass legislation earlier this term that seemed to go a long way of
fixing all the problems if not fixing all of the problems of perceived issues with Review & Comment. I
think we all agree certainly in principle with the idea of the mayor’s office and the board of aldermen
having somehow influence on the Review & Comment Commission in some way. Whether that is
done via a voting member or a non-voting member is sort of down in the noise to me. I’m sort of
leaning towards just having no change at all. Again, I’m not compelled to make a change. So rather
than feel like I have to do something, I have to make some sort of ordinance and then try to figure out
how to do it, I’d rather just say let’s just not at all.
Alderman Melizzi-Golja
The legislation we passed in March I believe addressed the process. I would agree with you that it
certainly tightened up that process in gaps that we thought were present, and members of Review &
Comment thought were present also, I think were addressed. I think there’s a much more
comprehensive process that allows better documentation of what that committee is doing also. This
is really addressing the composition of that committee. That was the other part that there had been
discussion about when that first piece of legislation came in and whether or not it was appropriate for
the aldermen to have more than a liaison position. But for someone who has not only appointed by
the Board of Aldermen though the Chair but someone who actually sits in the horseshoe as an
alderman being a voting member. This as amended would havfe two people, two citizens as
Alderman Caron pointed out, who would be appointed by the Board of Aldermen and then confirmed
by us. I think there’s a difference there between having someone who is sitting as an alderman
managing one of those committees and then being part of the five members of that review and
comment commission who is making the final allocation of funds and then bringing it back here and
voting on it again. That’s where I see the difference. We would have appointments but neither of
those appointments would be someone who’s a member of this body. They would be citizens from
the community, similar to the mayor’s appointments.
MOTION CARRIED TO AMEND
MOTION BY ALDERMAN SHEEHAN TO RECOMMEND FINAL PASSAGE AS AMENDED
ON THE QUESTION
Alderman Caron
I think this is a good solution, a compromise. I think it will work. I think that the changes that were
made in March were a good thing. If we can tighten it up even more to help us, I think that’s the way
to go. I think it’s a good compromise. I’ll support this.
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Chairman Wilshire
I just want to look at the analysis to make sure there isn’t something we’ve missed. “ This legislation
amends the composition of the Review and Comment Commission by eliminating the aldermanic
Commissioner and the Mayor’s office representative Commissioner. All five Commissioners would be
appointed by…” We’ll change the wording in that to what we already voted on.
Alderman Moriarty
I don’t know if it matters, I think we all understand how the process works. In the end, the Review &
Comment’s recommendations are just recommendations to be considered by the mayor to be put into
the budget process of which non-profit organizations will receive funds. Then that budget, of course,
comes back to the Board of Aldermen for review. However which way, whoever is voting, whoever is
non-voting, the liaison, not the liaison, in the end it’s a small difference in the total grand scheme of
things. If they are a voting member or not a voting member, the mayor can reject all the
recommendations anyway and complete turn them over if the mayor chose and then the board of
aldermen can make changes anyway. I don’t have a strong opinion one way or another but I’m still
going to vote no imply because again it’s just not a major, compelling argument to make the change.
MOTION CARRIED
GENERAL DISCUSSION
Alderman Sheehan
I was grateful to be invited today to the Xavier House Open House which is some affordable housing
for senior citizens and those with some physical challenges. I just wanted to thank them for inviting
me and showing me the program. I was also invited into an apartment that you would have thought
that they knew they were coming. It was ready to have a photo shoot there. It’s nice to see that even
in affordable housing, people can live beautifully and with dignity. The comradery that was there as I
spent some time in the community room, it was a really nice place to be. It’s at the foot of ward three
down on Chandler Street. Watching the progress of all the renovations over the last few years, it was
nice to see it from the inside as well. I just want to thank them for the invitation, and I enjoyed my time
there today.
Alderman Moriarty
I’ve spoken to a few people that either work for or represent non-profit agencies. There’s been a mix
of their understanding or knowledge of the existence of the community development block grant,
CDBG funds. Certainly at the very least the group of people in the administration that are in charge
of soliciting proposals from the non-profits need to do a little better job of marketing that information.
Certainly specific evidence of that was this past cycle when there were funds left over and yet there
are a lot of non-profits out there that could really use it. Somehow I would like to request that either
the Chairman can do it individually or we just sort of please request that they put more effort into
getting the word out.
Chairman Wilshire
I will discuss that with the administration and see how that can best be handled.
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Alderman Moriarty
Thank you.
PUBLIC COMMENT – None
REMARKS BY THE ALDERMEN
Alderman Melizzi-Golja
This Friday is the dedication of Dick LaRose Way, 5:30 p.m. on West Pearl Street.
Chairman Wilshire
I have a prior commitment, I can’t make it. That’s too bad because I think Dick was just a great
member of this committee and is truly missed. He was a terrific guy.
POSSIBLE NON-PUBLIC SESSION
ADJOURNMENT
MOTION BY ALDERMAN SHEEHAN TO ADJOURN
MOTION CARRIED
The meeting was declared adjourned at 7:34 p.m.
Alderman Mary Ann Melizzi-Golja
Committee Clerk
Agenda
HUMAN AFFAIRS COMMITTEE AGENDA
OCTOBER 3, 2013
7:00 PM Aldermanic Chamber
ROLL CALL
PUBLIC COMMENT
COMMUNICATIONS
UNFINISHED BUSINESS- None
NEW BUSINESS – RESOLUTIONS
R-13-141
Endorsers: Mayor Donnalee Lozeau
Alderman-at-Large Lori Wilshire
Alderman Diane Sheehan
Alderman Richard A. Dowd
Alderman Mary Ann Melizzi-Golja
Alderman June M. Caron
Alderman Michael J. Tabacsko
Alderman Kathy Vitale
Alderman Arthur T. Craffey, Jr.
Alderman-at-Large Barbara Pressly
RELATIVE TO THE ACCEPTANCE AND APPROPRIATION OF $50,193 FROM THE
UNITED STATES DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE INTO POLICE GRANT ACTIVITY “2013
JUSTICE ASSISTANCE GRANT (MULTI-JURISDICTIONAL)”
R-13-144
Endorsers: Mayor Donnalee Lozeau
Alderman-at-Large Lori Wilshire
Alderman Diane Sheehan
Alderman Richard A. Dowd
Alderman Mary Ann Melizzi-Golja
Alderman June M. Caron
Alderman Michael J. Tabacsko
Alderman Kathy Vitale
Alderman Arthur T. Craffey, Jr.
RELATIVE TO THE ACCEPTANCE AND APPROPRIATION OF $102,928 FROM THE
STATE OF NEW HAMPSHIRE DEPARTMENT OF SAFETY INTO POLICE GRANT
ACTIVITY “2012 HOMELAND SECURITY GRANT PROGRAM”
NEW BUSINESS – ORDINANCES - None
TABLED IN COMMITTEE
O-12-21
Endorsers: Alderman Mary Ann Melizzi-Golja
Alderman June Caron
Alderman Michael Tabacsko
Alderman Diane Sheehan
Alderman Richard A. Dowd
AMENDING THE COMPOSITION OF THE REVIEW AND COMMENT COMMISSION
Also assigned to Personnel; Final Passage Recommended – 8/20/12
Tabled 9/6/12
GENERAL DISCUSSION
PUBLIC COMMENT
REMARKS BY THE ALDERMEN
POSSIBLE NON-PUBLIC SESSION
ADJOURNMENT