Zoning Board of Adjustment
Regular MeetingNashua, NH · June 22, 2010
Minutes
ZONING BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT PUBLIC HEARING AND MEETING
June 22, 2010
A public hearing of the Zoning Board of Adjustment was held on
Tuesday, June 22, 2010 at 6:30 PM in the Auditorium at City
Hall.
Jack Currier, Chair, conducted the meeting.
Members present were:
Jack Currier, Chair
Rob Shaw
Gerry Reppucci
Ryan Williams
Carter Falk, Deputy Planning Manager/Zoning
Mr. Currier explained the Board's procedures, including the
points of law required for applicants to address relative to
variances and special exceptions. Mr. Currier explained how
testimony will be given by applicants, those speaking in favor
or in opposition to each request, as stated in the Zoning Board
of Adjustment (ZBA) By-laws. Mr. Currier also explained
procedures involving the timing light.
1. Vasilios P. & Tasia Zacharopoulos (Owners) 37 Sherri-Ann
Avenue (Sheet 137A Lot 107) requesting variance to encroach
1.5 feet into the 10 foot required side yard setback to
construct a 21’x25’ foot carport and wood storage
structure. RA Zone, Ward 2. [REHEARING] [TABLED FROM THE
JUNE 8, 2010 MEETING]
Voting on this Case:
Jack Currier
Gerry Reppucci
Ryan Williams
Gerry Reppucci - RECUSED
Attorney Gerald Prunier, Prunier & Prolman, 20 Trafalgar Square,
Nashua, NH. Atty. Prunier said he objected to going forward
without a full five-member Board. Atty. Prunier gave the Board
a handout, showing where the house and garage is. He said the
garage goes back 25 feet, it’s the 21 foot width that goes into
the setback. He said on the right hand side is where the
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structure encroaches, about 1.5 feet. He said from the photo,
he wants to store the wood in the garage. He said there is
plenty of room for emergency personnel to go around.
Atty. Prunier said for the hardship, he said that the owner
thought the setback was seven feet, not ten feet. He said it is
within the character of the neighborhood, and the closest
abutter has no issue with the structure. Atty. Prunier went
over all the relevant variance points of law.
Mr. Currier asked if the driveway will meet the maximum width
allowed by the Ordinance, which is 24 feet.
Atty. Prunier stated that his client will not exceed the width,
and would reduce it if it exceeded the ordinance. He said he
didn’t mind having a stipulation that the opening must meet the
ordinance.
SPEAKING IN FAVOR:
Letter from 22 Danbury Street from Daniel Cagguila.
SPEAKING IN OPPOSITION OR WITH QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS:
No One.
MOTION by Mr. Currier to grant the variance request on behalf of
the applicant. Mr. Currier said the approval is based upon the
applicant maintaining the maximum 24-foot wide curb-cut, which
is the City Ordinance maximum width. Mr. Currier said with that
24-foot wide maximum curb-cut, believes the variance is needed
to enable the applicant’s proposed use of the property, which is
a garage and a wood storage area, and said that this is a
approval for a currently built structure, and given that the one
affected abutter at 22 Danbury has provided a letter of support,
this case is within the spirit and intent of the ordinance.
Mr. Currier stated that this request will not adversely affect
property values of the surrounding parcels, and is therefore not
contrary to the public interest, and substantial justice is done
to allow the applicant to have a 1.5 foot encroachment into the
10 foot required side yard setback.
Mr. Williams said that the fact that the garage is already on
the property is not a factor that the Board considered.
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Mr. Currier amended his motion to add the fact that the Board
looked at this case as if the garage didn’t exist.
SECONDED by Mr. Williams.
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY 3-0.
2. Kathleen H. & Gary E. Nelson (Owners) S.W.L.C., Inc.
(Applicant) 138 Spit Brook Road (Sheet B Lot 76) requesting
the following variances: 1) to exceed maximum ground sign
height, 6 feet permitted, 10 feet requested, 2) to encroach
10 feet into the 10 foot required front yard setback, and
3) to allow manually changeable copy on a portion of
proposed ground sign. R18 Zone, Ward 8.
Voting on this Case:
Jack Currier
Gerry Reppucci
Ryan Williams
Gerry Reppucci
Attorney Robert Welts, 29 Factory Street, Nashua, NH. Atty.
Welts said that this is the 15th year that the World Schools has
been at this location. He said it is a private school, with
summer camps. He said there are three variance requests before
the Board, to move its existing sign to another location on the
property, and a slight modification to the face of the sign.
Atty. Welts said the existing sign is located on the easterly
end of the property, alongside a common driveway, shared by
Grace Lutheran Church. He said the sign is set back over 90
feet from the nearest travelled way on Spit Brook Road. He said
that the road was straightened and modernized, thereby moving it
away 60 – 90 feet to the south, and the City retained the extra
land for the right-of-way.
Atty. Welts said that in 2001, a variance was granted by the
Board for a 0 foot setback, and for the area. He said that the
purpose of tonight’s variance is to allow the sign to be
relocated approximately 170 feet northerly, along the stone
wall, as shown in the pictures and plan, in front of the school,
in the center of the front boundary. He said the reason to move
the sign is to improve the visibility of the sign. He said
since the original sign was placed, the trees have grown in the
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City right-of-way, and it is difficult to see the sign. He said
that other problems have arisen with the common driveway, and
the close proximity of the school and church signs.
Atty. Welts said the location of the proposed sign would be over
30 feet closer to Spit Brook Road than the present sign. He
said the height and square footage proposed are what was
approved before, but this time they would like to add a manually
changeable reader board. He went over all the relevant points
of law.
Mr. Shaw said that he was concerned that the sign would not be
perpendicular to the street, even though it would be closer, and
didn’t think it would be as visible. He said he was concerned
with the flow of traffic also, he said the intent is to have
traffic enter at the common driveway, and funnel through at the
westerly driveway for egress. He said by moving the sign, it
would raise greater ambiguity where the entrances are to the
property.
Atty. Welts said he’s driven by the site numerous times, and
cannot see the sign coming from the east. He said they’ve
discussed the location at length, and believe its proposed
location would be the best. He said they also believe it will
look nicer, with the school in the background.
Mr. Currier read a portion of the minutes from the 2001 meeting,
in which Atty. Welts stated that many prospective parents and
other persons visiting the school have complained that they have
passed the common driveway.
Atty. Welts said that circumstances have changed, for one thing,
the trees have grown.
Mr. Currier asked if they have contacted the City to cut or trim
the trees.
Atty. Welts said that they have not, the trees are beautiful,
but they have grown, and the sign is less visible.
Mr. Williams asked about the enrollment, and just how many
people drive by the site and can’t find it because of the
signage.
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Atty. Welts said every year, students graduate, and there is a
whole new class of students coming in, so there are always new
people going to the site. He said about 40% of the students are
from out of town. He said they believe that if the sign is 30
feet closer, it will be easier to read.
Further discussion ensued.
Mr. Currier said he wouldn’t be in favor of an internally lit
changeable copy sign.
Atty. Welts said the existing sign is internally lit.
SPEAKING IN FAVOR:
Kathy Nelson, 138 Spit Brook Road, Nashua, NH. Ms. Nelson said
that the sign is a big financial commitment to them, and the
parents. She said they have looked at the sign situation very
closely, and is concerned about the neighborhood. She said they
are doing everything they can to make the sign look nice and
serve as an adequate identification to the school, and fit into
the character of the school. She said they have been looking at
the sign for a long time, and believe it is attractive.
Mr. Reppucci said he is grateful for all the research and time
put into the application, but is concerned that the sign will be
relocated away from the only entrance to the school.
Ms. Nelson said the best thing is if they could have two signs,
and have one at the entrance.
SPEAKING IN OPPOSITION OR WITH QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS:
No One.
Mr. Reppucci said they already had the square footage and height
approved by their original variance, they are just relocating it
to another location. He said that it was well-known at that
time that the sign was internally lit. He said they’re really
not looking for anything except a different location on the lot.
He said if the applicant and the sign company have discussed
this at length, and can’t imagine why they wouldn’t want an
entrance sign.
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Mr. Shaw said he wasn’t convinced that the situation is becoming
better with respect to signage. He said the placement of the
sign is very aesthetic with relation to the school from Spit
Brook Road, but said he was concerned with people finding their
way to the entry of the school.
Mr. Williams said that by putting the sign there doesn’t create
any traffic dangers, if anything, drivers will pass the school
and turn around. He said that the excessive setback from Spit
Brook Road is a condition that is unique to the property, and
could be looked at as a hardship. He said that the signage
doesn’t bring a negative aesthetic value to the neighborhood.
Mr. Currier said this is the gateway to South Nashua, and didn’t
want to see it cluttered with signs. He said that the
changeable copy adds to the clutter a little bit, but, the sign
is smaller. He said the discussion has mainly centered upon the
placement of the sign. He said that he wasn’t that compelled by
the arguments in 2001, that people miss the site, and struggle
to get there. He said that they believe that the new location
will be better for them, and would support the case for that
reason.
Mr. Falk said that they can have a directional sign without a
variance. He said it is limited to six square feet, and the
corporate logo/business name cannot exceed 33% of the face of
the sign, and it must show an entry arrow, or give some sort of
direction for drivers. He said they can just submit a sign
permit for that.
Mr. Reppucci said that this applicant is trying to do this the
right way, and said it gave him a strong motivation to help them
do this. He said he wouldn’t stand in their way, but believes
the sign will be less visible in the proposed location.
Mr. Williams agreed, he said it’s not our position to make a
business determination on their part on whether or not it will
aid them, he said this is a unique characteristic with the State
owned right-of-way here, and wasn’t concerned that the sign
would or could cause any traffic issues.
Mr. Currier said it’s their belief that their proposed location
will serve them better. He said that most of the Board didn’t
believe that the location was necessarily better, but the Board
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is inclined to support the request, based upon their testimony,
and to really allow them a sign with changeable copy.
Mr. Shaw said that aesthetically, the sign will probably be an
improvement, but is still concerned about the potential traffic
and safety concerns.
MOTION by Mr. Reppucci to grant the variance on behalf of the
applicant. Mr. Reppucci stated the variances are needed to
enable the applicant’s proposed use of the property, given the
special conditions of the property; and the benefit sought by
the applicant cannot be achieved by some other method reasonably
feasible for the applicant to pursue, other than an area
variance. Mr. Reppucci said the Board discussed in detail the
reasons why the applicants proposal and find that their
positions credible and reasonable.
Mr. Reppucci said it is within the spirit and intent of the
ordinance, it will not adversely affect the property values of
surrounding parcels, it is not contrary to the public interest,
in fact, it should increase the visibility of their signage, and
substantial justice would be done.
Mr. Reppucci said that with the exception of adding the
changeable copy to the sign, the only change for this approval
is to relocate the sign, everything else was approved in 2001.
He said they decreased the rest of the signage to stay within
the size they were approved for earlier
SECONDED by Mr. Williams.
MOTION CARRIED 3-1 (Mr. Shaw)
3. Douglas A. & Dennis Juonis (Owners) “L” Miami Street (Sheet
130 Lot 72) requesting variance for minimum lot area, 6,000
square feet required, 5,745 square feet existing, to allow
this nonconforming lot of record to be separately developed
and conveyed from common ownership with 6 Intervale Street.
RB Zone, Ward 4.
Voting on this Case:
Jack Currier
Gerry Reppucci
Ryan Williams
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Gerry Reppucci
Douglas Juonis, 6 Bitirnas Street, Nashua, NH. Mr. Juonis said
he and his brother inherited the property from their father, and
believed it was a buildable lot, but it doesn’t, it doesn’t meet
the minimum 6,000 square foot requirement. He said they are
seeking the variance so that if they want to build a house on
the lot, they can.
Mr. Currier asked if the lots are taxed together.
Mr. Juonis said they are taxed separately, and have been since
2004.
Mr. Williams asked if they are just seeking approval to make it
a buildable lot right now.
Mr. Juonis said that is correct, there are no plans for any
building improvements, he said his father just passed away.
Mr. Falk said that this request is only to convey the lot
separately, all they want to do is have this lot separate from
the lot with the house on it, there are no plans submitted to
construct a new house.
Mr. Williams said it’s hard to assess the application if there
is nothing to look at as far as plans for a house, it’s hard to
tell if it will be in the character of the neighborhood. He
said the lot is substandard in size, something could be built
right up to the setbacks.
Mr. Juonis said he lives in the neighborhood, and wouldn’t do
something like that.
Mr. Currier asked about the setbacks for the lot.
Mr. Falk said the lot is a double frontage lot, with two front
yard setbacks and two side yard setbacks. He said the lot
limits the size of the house that could be built there anyway.
He said in the RB zone, it is a 10 foot front, and a 7 foot side
yard setback.
SPEAKING IN FAVOR:
No One.
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SPEAKING IN OPPOSITION OR WITH QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS:
Eliza Weeks, 19 Miami Street, Nashua, NH. Ms. Weeks stated that
she lives right across the street. She handed some handouts of
the area, with a photo study of what it may look like with a
house on the lot. She said the lot is very small, and is not in
the character of Little Florida, and will dramatically change
the look of the entry from Intervale Street. She said it will
lower the property values in the neighborhood as well. She said
she is also concerned that it will become a rental unit, and is
concerned with her neighbor’s property, with it being so close
to the lot.
Charles Adie, 6 Miami Street, Nashua, NH. Mr. Adie said that
the lot could be used for a better purpose, the house adjoining
the vacant lot could use some additional land, and perhaps they
could split that lot up.
Keith Nadeau, 17 Burns Street, Nashua, NH. Mr. Nadeau stated
that he is the abutter to the vacant lot. He said if he knew
that the property line was that close, he would have never
bought the house. He said that part of his lawn that he’s been
maintaining is actually the empty lot. He said the lot is
small, and thought the owners would do well to sell the
property, he said he’d like to buy it but cannot afford it. He
said there needs to be some stipulations, and we need to know
what will be built there, and the lot is small.
Mr. Reppucci said the lot is generally pretty small, so most
likely it will be a small single-family ranch-style home, and
it’s also likely that the owner will live there.
SPEAKING IN FAVOR – REBUTTAL:
Douglas Juonis, 6 Bitirnas Street, Nashua, NH. Mr. Juonis said
it would be nice if one of his nieces could build a house on the
lot, and not just have a piece of land that we are paying taxes
on that is useless.
SPEAKING IN OPPOSITION OR WITH QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS – REBUTTAL:
No One.
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Mr. Williams said the Board heard a very similar case to this on
Berkeley Street a couple months ago. He asked if Staff had
reviewed Section 190-121 (b)(3). He said that the last sentence
may get them out of this provision.
Mr. Falk said that neither the applicant nor staff had
considered that exact language, or provision.
Mr. Falk said that the applicant came in with the application
for land area.
Mr. Williams said it looks like this provision may apply to this
owner, as there lots around this one that are substandard, and
didn’t want the applicant to submit the fees and come back
again. He said this is very similar to the Berkeley Street
matter.
Mr. Currier said the lots have been held in common ownership
since prior to 1976, as stated in the ordinance. He said
because of the common ownership, before 1976, that they are
grandfathered in, and we’ll just consider the application before
us.
Mr. Williams said he still had concerns, this is still just like
the Berkeley Street case, where both of those properties had
been owned by the same people, and the department had
interpreted that this provision applies, and they had to get a
variance.
Mr. Falk said the Berkeley Street case was short on lot width,
so, the wording of the ads aren’t exactly the same, but it’s
still getting them to the same place, the same conclusion, which
is relief from the Board for a dimensional issue that didn’t
meet the ordinance.
Further discussion ensued by the Board.
MOTION by Mr. Currier to grant the variance on behalf of the
owner. Mr. Currier stated that he believes the variance is
needed to enable the applicants proposed use of the property,
which is the development of a single-family home, and the Board
stipulates not to exceed two stories, to try to minimize the
impact on the abutting neighbors, by limiting the size of the
home, the fact that this has been two separate lots, that they
have paid taxes on for many generations.
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Mr. Currier said that this is within the spirit and intent of
the ordinance, it will not adversely affect property values of
surrounding parcels, it is not contrary to the public interest,
and substantial justice is served.
Mr. Currier said the special condition is that it will be a
single family home, not to exceed two stories.
SECONDED by Mr. Reppucci.
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY 4-0.
MISCELLANEOUS:
REHEARING REQUESTS:
1. Robert Kerouac (Club Social), 6 Denton Street.
Mr. Falk said that there is a letter requesting that the
rehearing request for 6 Denton Street be postponed another two
weeks.
MOTION by Mr. Reppucci to remove the rehearing request from the
Table.
SECONDED by Mr. Currier.
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY 4-0.
Mr. Reppucci said he’s inclined to say no to the request, the
Board was more than generous in allowing extra time to allow
them to come up with additional information. He said this was
articulated very clearly to them. He said he didn’t feel that
the people asking for this are being reasonable, they haven’t
made the effort to comply with the rules, we gave them a break,
and they’ve done nothing.
Mr. Williams agreed with Mr. Reppucci. He said he is
sympathetic to their needing additional time, but has found out
that they’ve been told numerous times what they need, and we
still have nothing. He said the abutters need to move on, as
well, and it is not fair to them, and we’re putting more effort
into this application than the applicant is, and it is
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disappointing and surprising that they’ve submitted nothing to
even discuss.
Mr. Shaw said he shares the same sentiments that have been
brought up.
Mr. Currier said it looks like they took our recommendations to
heart, and want to do it the right way. He said they were
probably overwhelmed by what is needed, and just weren’t ready.
Mr. Williams said he could have had a fully prepared argument
ready for this case in a matter of hours. He said this wouldn’t
have taken a lot of time.
Mr. Reppucci said he is certain that the rules have been read to
the applicant, and they knew that something had to be submitted,
and they had plenty of time to get something written. He said
they had 841 signatures for approval, you’d think someone could
have written something competent within the first 30 days, and
now, to extend it beyond, they’ve had their opportunity. He
said the abutters have rights, too, and the rules are very
clear, and they should follow them.
Mr. Falk said the applicant was given a little extra time. He
said the Board can only stretch this out for so long, and
they’ve already been given a break to come back tonight. He
said if they even go to the next meeting, they’re already a
month after the 30-day deadline, which is quite generous.
Mr. Reppucci asked if the Board is setting some sort of
precedence by allowing so much additional time, and what will
happen for future cases that will impact people.
Mr. Williams said there could be numerous different reasons or
excuses why someone isn’t ready. He asked if there is going to
be some sort of precedence with allowing additional time, and
this could cause some harm to abutters.
Mr. Shaw said he didn’t want the Board to have conditional
treatment of rehearing requests, whether it’s an approval or a
denial, or by the applicant or by an abutter. He said it would
open the Board up to more difficulties in terms of the Boards
consistent treatment of situations. He said he understands that
the Board is sensitive, and tries to be accommodating and to
give full consideration, but said that the Board shouldn’t
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undermine our actions and By-laws. He said we tried to
accommodate them two weeks ago, and allow for some leniency, and
we still have nothing. He said the Board could be undermining
the By-laws, and acting in a manner inconsistent with past
practice.
Mr. Falk said sometimes issues are raised in Court when they see
that By-laws aren’t followed, or the Board acts in a way that is
not typical of past practices, rules of procedure, or By-laws.
He said the Board should act consistently, and follow the laws
and By-laws.
Mr. Reppucci said that what was unique about this rehearing
request is that it wasn’t weak, it had no specific information
at all in it, just a vague statement that there was some new
information.
MOTION by Mr. Currier to deny the rehearing request, because
there’s been no tangible evidence for this Board to approve a
rehearing request, and without that evidence at this time, this
Board recommends denial.
SECONDED by Mr. Reppucci.
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY 4-0.
MINUTES:
June 8, 2010:
MOTION by Mr. Currier to approve the Minutes as presented, waive
the reading, and place the minutes in the file.
SECONDED by Mr. Reppucci.
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY 3-0.
REGIONAL IMPACT:
The Board did not see any cases of Regional Impact.
ADJOURNMENT:
Mr. Currier called the meeting closed at 9:30 p.m.
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Robert Shaw, Clerk
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Agenda
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Nashua, New Hampshire 03061-2019
AMENDED AGENDA
ZONING BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT
June 22, 2010
1. Kathleen H. & Gary E. Nelson (Owners) S.W.L.C., Inc.
(Applicant) 138 Spit Brook Road (Sheet B Lot 76)
requesting the following variances: 1) to exceed
maximum ground sign height, 6 feet permitted, 10 feet
requested, 2) to encroach 10 feet into the 10 foot
required front yard setback, and 3) to allow manually
changeable copy on a portion of proposed ground sign.
R18 Zone, Ward 8.
2. Douglas A. & Dennis Juonis (Owners) “L” Miami Street
(Sheet 130 Lot 72) requesting variance for minimum lot
area, 6,000 square feet required, 5,745 square feet
existing, to allow this nonconforming lot of record to
be separately developed and conveyed from common
ownership with 6 Intervale Street. RB Zone, Ward 4.
3. Vasilios P. & Tasia Zacharopoulos (Owners) 37 Sherri-
Ann Avenue (Sheet 137A Lot 107) requesting variance to
encroach 1.5 feet into the 10 foot required side yard
setback to construct a 21’x25’ foot carport and wood
storage structure. RA Zone, Ward 2. [REHEARING]
[TABLED FROM THE JUNE 8, 2010 MEETING]
OTHER BUSINESS:
1. Review of Motion for Rehearing:
Robert Kerouac (Club Social), 6 Denton Street [TABLED
FROM THE JUNE 8, 2010 MEETING]
2. Review of upcoming agenda to determine proposals of
regional impact.
2. Approval of Minutes for previous hearings/meetings:
June 8, 2010
“SUITABLE ACCOMMODATIONS FOR THE SENSORY IMPAIRED
WILL BE PROVIDED UPON ADEQUATE ADVANCE NOTICE."
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