Zoning Board of Adjustment
Regular MeetingNashua, NH · September 28, 2010
Minutes
ZONING BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT PUBLIC HEARING AND MEETING
September 28, 2010
A public hearing of the Zoning Board of Adjustment was held on
Tuesday, September 28, 2010 at 6:30 PM in the Auditorium at City
Hall.
Jack Currier, Chair, conducted the meeting.
Members present were:
Jack Currier, Chair
Rob Shaw, Vice Chair
Ryan Williams
Gerry Reppucci
Carter Falk, Deputy Planning Manager/Zoning
Mr. Currier explained the Board's procedures, including the
points of law required for applicants to address relative to
variances and special exceptions. Mr. Currier explained how
testimony will be given by applicants, those speaking in favor
or in opposition to each request, as stated in the Zoning Board
of Adjustment (ZBA) By-laws. Mr. Currier also explained
procedures involving the timing light.
1. NH Housing Finance Authority (Owner) Scott DeSantis
(Applicant) 22 Lawndale Avenue (Sheet 108 Lot 84)
requesting variance to encroach 8 feet into the 25 foot
required rear yard setback to replace an existing house on
the same footprint. RA Zone, Ward 6.
Voting on this Case:
Jack Currier
Rob Shaw
Ryan Williams
Gerry Reppucci
Attorney Gerald Prunier, Prunier & Prolman, 20 Trafalgar Square,
Nashua, NH. Atty. Prunier stated that the property is located
in Central Nashua, and referred the Board to some pictures of
the property. He said in the first picture, there is a mobile
home trailer inside the premises, with siding/walls put around
it. He said that there really isn’t any foundation. He said
the reason they are here is to ask for a variance, as the rear
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wall is encroaching 8 feet into the 25 foot required rear yard
setback to put a foundation in, new walls, and put a dormer on
top, and square off the house, and re-vinyl the whole house. He
said at the present time, it’s half a house, and half a trailer.
He said the property needs a foundation to meet the code, and
the encroachment won’t be any further than what is existing. He
said the existing foundation is not something that is recognized
by the Building Code.
Atty. Prunier went over all the required variance points of law.
SPEAKING IN FAVOR:
Dan Perelli, 20 Lawndale Avenue, Nashua, NH. Mr. Perelli stated
that he is in favor of the variance.
Leo Gaudette, 15 Fowell Avenue, Nashua, NH. Mr. Gaudette stated
that he is in favor of the variance.
SPEAKING IN OPPOSITION OR WITH QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS:
No One.
MOTION by Mr. Currier to grant the variance application on
behalf of the applicant. Mr. Currier stated that the variance
is needed to enable the applicant’s proposed use of the
property, given the special conditions of the property; and the
benefit sought by the applicant cannot be achieved by some other
method reasonably feasible for the applicant to pursue, other
than an area variance, as, for many years, the 25 foot rear yard
setback has been encroached upon by eight feet, there’s a
proposal to keep that the same with a new and improved house,
and the proposed house, per testimony, is a two-story single-
family home.
Mr. Currier said that per the testimony, the Board finds that
the request is within the spirit and intent of the Ordinance.
Mr. Currier said it will not adversely affect the property
values of surrounding parcels, per testimony, it will actually
enhance surrounding parcels because the property will improve
substantially
Mr. Currier said the request is not contrary to the public
interest, and substantial justice is approved.
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SECONDED by Mr. Williams.
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY 4-0.
2. Roman Catholic Bishop of Manchester (Owner) Randy Turmel
(Applicant) 65 Pine Hill Road (Sheet E Lot 2223) requesting
the following: 1) use variance to allow elderly housing in
the AI District portion of the property, consisting of
single family detached units and two duplex units for a
total of up to twelve units in the AI District; and, 2)
variance to permit up to four elderly housing dwelling
units per acre in the AI District portion of the property.
AI & R9 Zones, Ward 1.
Voting on this Case:
Jack Currier
Rob Shaw
Gerry Reppucci
Ryan Williams – [RECUSED]
Attorney Brad Westgate, Winer & Bennett, 111 Concord Street,
Nashua, NH. Atty. Westgate showed two maps of the property,
indicating the AI and R9 zoning districts. He said the property
is a 4.92 acre parcel, subdivided about a year ago from a larger
parcel from the St. Stan’s complex. He said there are two
buildings on the property, a function building and another
building.
Atty. Westgate said the plan is to develop a 17-unit 55 year and
older community. He said that 15 of the units will be single-
family detached dwellings, ranch style, one floor. He said that
two units will be duplex design. He said the existing building
to the north is being converted into two units, and a community
center room. He said it will be a condominium form of ownership
so the road and other improvements will be privately maintained.
Atty. Westgate stated that about a quarter of the property is in
the R9 district, about 1 1/3 acres. He said that the AI zoned
portion is about 3 1/3 acres, and the back part of it is
wetlands. He said that the AI zoned portion is not large for an
industrial zoned property. He described the surrounding uses.
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Atty. Westgate said that they are requesting a use variance to
allow the elderly housing, 55 years and over community in the AI
district portion of the property. He said the R9 portion of the
property does not need a use variance, as this use is permitted.
He said the other variance is the density, the number of units
per acre. He said the AI zone, especially the zoning matrix, is
silent on density or units per acre, therefore, a variance is
sought to have the same density in the R9 portion of 4 units per
acre to match the AI portion.
Atty. Westgate said that the Ordinance dictates that the units
not be over 1,000 square feet, not counting unfinished areas and
decks, and unheated spaces, basements. He said the houses would
be approximately 20 feet in height to the peak roof height.
Atty. Westgate said that if this lot were to be industrially
developed, the only access to the property would be through the
R9 section to get to it. He said it is distinctly unique in
this respect, as there is no other property like this, with
access through another zone. He said that Section 190-13 B of
the Land Use Code states that in a split-zone setting, the
property owner can elect to have the zoning regulations of the
larger piece of property govern the smaller portion, so, the
applicant can go just before the Planning Board to implement any
AI district permitted uses, including the R9 portion, but
decided on the proposed development, that would be compatible
with the natural neighbors.
Atty. Westgate went over the relevant points of law with respect
to both the use and area variances. He stated that for the
public interest, it is a residential use in a split-zoned
property that is accessed through the residential neighborhood,
and the split zoned portion in the rear has no connection or
functionality to the balance of the AI district. He said it is
a transitional piece, and the residential is a less intense use,
and is sensible for this area. He said that the spirit of the
ordinance is attained in that residential property is being
developed adjacent to residential property. He said that the
rear of the property is less important to the neighbors and what
is along the street.
Atty. Westgate stated that substantial justice will be served,
the variances are not that significant, one is to fill out
compatible development, and the other to allow uniform density.
He stated that the use will not devalue surrounding properties,
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as the proposed use is elderly single family. He submitted
letters of support, and a letter from a property appraiser. He
said he is aware that the Airport Authority wrote a letter of
concern. He said that the hardship, for using the Simplex
standard, he said he’s already identified several special unique
issues, such as the split zone, being accessed only through a
residential sector, and being on the eastern side of the AI
district, and not integral or accessible to the AI district,
make this site unique. He said the property also abuts a
railroad and wetland area as well. He said the property is not
functional in an AI setting, as the front sets the character of
the property.
Mr. Reppucci said he didn’t understand the Airport Authority’s
position on this request. He said they’re claiming in their
letter that they are concerned about the noise that the people
who’d live in these houses would be subjected to. He asked that
in the future, if noise becomes an issue, will the airport be
responsible to soundproof the houses in the area.
Atty. Westgate said he didn’t think so, as everyone buying here
knows the airport is there, and said that they want to make it a
matter of record that this property has a certain proximity to
the airport and the runways. He said it will be a given, and a
known.
Atty. Westgate said that, in rebuttal to their letter, that the
airport is concerned about us protecting ourselves from
ourselves, and from our abutters, versus, allowing compatible
residential use for the protection of the Pine Hill Road
residents. He said the applicant is willing to take the risk
that proximity to the airport will have on the residential
development that is proposed. He said that people will buy,
knowingly, about the airport being nearby, and subsequent owners
will buy knowingly. He said the proposal is sensible and an
appropriate way to develop the land uniformly, with the
surrounding neighbors. He said that this property is not in the
airport core, it doesn’t support the tax base and usage for the
airport. He said they will comply with the condominium
documents, and all disclosure elements.
Mr. Shaw said from the letter, you might infer that its noise,
other items, safety, and planes flying overhead during landing
and approaches, and the residents would constantly be exposed to
low flying aircraft, he said the noise is one thing, and there
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would be visual obstruction. He said it’s in the envelope of
the runway approach, and the consideration of safety as far as
if there were any crash or unfortunate incident, and wondered
why the zoning district is pulled this far out to be consistent
with that approach, but at the same time, with the safety
factor, there are other structures in the AI zone already, and
they’re occupied during work hours, or greater. He asked about
the safety perspective, for having residential here.
Atty. Westgate stated that if the Airport Authority had concerns
about a safety perspective, it probably would have been
discussed in far greater detail in the letter. He said if a
plane is in trouble, going 150 mph, in a matter of seconds,
there is a very large geographical area where a distressed plane
could go down, and the safety issue is a generic concept. He
said that today, all airports, and the land around them are
heavily developed. He said to preclude any type of residential
development here, where it’s clearly the type of use that is
around here, is not reasonable. He said that two letters of
support were given from abutters.
Mr. Currier asked how long the Roman Catholic Bishop has owned
the property.
Atty. Westgate said he suspected they’ve owned it as long as
it’s been the church, and part of the church complex. He said
one deed reference puts it in the 1920’s, another is from the
1950’s. He said the airport has been around since the World War
II timeframe.
SPEAKING IN FAVOR:
Jim Petropulos, Hayner, Swanson, Inc. 3 Congress Street, Nashua,
NH. Mr. Petropulos handed out some information to the Board.
He said the key note is that this is a transitional piece of
property. He said there are physical limitations to the
property, as Atty. Westgate described. He said they considered
the best use for the land, with respect to the neighborhood. He
said the Land Use Code allows 71 uses in the AI zone, not
counting conditional uses. He said many of these uses could go
in, just with a conditional use permit, over the entire
property. He said the AI zone allows a 45 foot tall building,
where the current proposal indicates a roof height of only 20
feet. He said the comparison between standard single family is
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about 10 vehicle trips per day, versus elderly housing, which is
3.7 trips per day. He said it will be a good transitional use.
Alderman, Ward 1, Kathy Vitale. Ald. Vitale stated that she has
a letter of support for the request. She said she’s spoken with
the developer, he went over it, and it looks like it’ll be a
pretty good fit.
Donald Doucette, 16 Robert Drive, Nashua, NH. Mr. Doucette
stated that he’s lived here since the mid 1960’s, and there have
been a lot of changes in the area. He said the noise is
something that you get used to, and you know it’s there. He
said for safety, no matter where you are, a plane in trouble can
go down anyplace.
SPEAKING IN OPPOSITION OR WITH QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS:
Mr. Currier said the only opposition is the letter on record
from the Airport Authority, which has been read already.
Atty. Westgate said he had opportunity to go over the letter.
Mr. Reppucci said that the applicant made a very compelling
presentation on how this piece of property is uniquely affected
by the zoning restriction, specifically, the access to it from
Pine Hill Road, through the R9 piece of property. He said he
doesn’t see the Airport Authority’s logic in not supporting this
request.
Mr. Shaw stated that this area isn’t one that the airport
encompasses, even though it is in the flight path. He said that
the proposal and the use of the land will enhance and, or
support local property values, as opposed to going with an AI
zoned development. He said it is on the edge of the other R9
zone, and there are many aspects of this plan that make it a
good fit with the neighboring uses.
Mr. Currier said he’s supportive of the application, and doesn’t
disagree with the airport’s reason for not wanting it. He said
there will be complaints to the airport in the future. He said
it is important to limit the height of the roof to 20 feet,
which is less that what is permitted in the AI zone. He said
the 3.7 trips per day will cause much less traffic.
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MOTION by Mr. Reppucci to grant the use and area variances on
behalf of the owner, taken together. Mr. Reppucci stated that
the variance is needed to enable the applicant’s proposed use of
the property, given the special conditions of the property and
the benefit sought by the applicant cannot be achieved by some
other method reasonably feasible for the applicant to pursue,
other than an area variance. Mr. Reppucci said that by
discussion of the Board, special conditions were found, that the
access is from the R9 portion of the property, and the Board
found that to be a special condition worthy of a variance.
Mr. Reppucci stated that the request is within the spirit and
intent of the ordinance, it will not adversely affect property
values of surrounding parcels, in fact, the perspective of other
property owners in the area is that it will only increase their
property value.
Mr. Reppucci said it is not contrary to the public interest,
there was overwhelming support by the people who are going to be
most affected by it, and substantial justice would be done with
a special condition that the structures will have a maximum of
twenty feet in height to the peak of the roof, to approve both
variances.
SECONDED by Mr. Currier.
Mr. Currier said that he wanted to add into the special
condition for the Motion that with the proposal for elderly
housing, for traffic, it is much less intense than the
development that could otherwise be there, and therefore, is not
contrary to the public interest. He said the Motion should say
that it is for elderly housing.
Mr. Reppucci said that he agrees with the Amendment.
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY 3-0.
REHEARING REQUESTS:
1. Kenneth E. Mayo Living Trust (Owner) “L” Wellington Street
(Sheet 65 Lot 194) requesting the following: 1) use
variance to allow the vacant lot to be used for a Japanese
Garden; and, 2) variance to encroach 6 feet into the 20
foot required front yard setback (on Elliott Street) to
allow a 12’x24’ pump house. RA Zone, Ward 3.
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Voting on this Case:
Jack Currier
Rob Shaw
Gerry Reppucci
Ryan Williams
Mr. Currier said in the request, for point number 4, what was
described to the Building Department was an underground pump
structure, and they said a permit wasn’t needed, but what is
there is a very tall structure, that is 12, or 20 feet, and
didn’t buy that it is just buried underground, he said it was
reasonable that the Building Department initially said that they
don’t need a building permit, and it was never made clear. He
said he disagrees with point number 4, he said he didn’t think
it’s a hardship to the applicant, he didn’t think it was
described well to the Building Department.
Mr. Williams agreed, and said the biggest issue is the potential
height issue. He said the motion to deny the request spoke
about the 19 foot plus height.
Mr. Reppucci said his view of the presentation of height was
that he fundamentally disagreed with their perception of what
height was. He said that they presented it as if the building
was a certain height, under the premise that after its
backfilled with dirt around it.
Mr. Currier said it was hard to determine exactly what the
building height was, as a lot of measurements were discussed.
He said the letter, in number 15, mentioned a wall and fence
that is 10 feet in height, but that may need a variance. He
said there really was no clarification of what the height is.
Mr. Currier said what we saw out there, whatever the height was,
was very large, so the issue of height, based upon the new
information of a lower number, said he didn’t believe that it’s
a substantial change, it’s still a very large structure, and not
worthy for a rehearing request.
Mr. Williams said even though we said 19 feet in height in the
minutes, that it’s not even conclusively established that it is
12 feet, also, there is a question on how you calculate that
height from. He said from the road, it looks a lot higher than
12 feet.
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Mr. Reppucci said that he thought the Board had some consensus
about the 19 foot height.
Mr. Shaw said he remembered the 19 foot height from one of the
renderings, but there was some question by the Board that that
height was valid.
Mr. Reppucci said to backfill, and to go over the wall, is
significant, and the building is only 14 feet from the property
line, the slope wouldn’t be permitted.
Mr. Currier said for point 5, you would think that the stop-work
order was adhered to, and that the owner needs to do something
about it. He said that there were repeated violations here, and
the owner was well aware that there was a stop-work order, but
just kept working at it. He said he didn’t agree with point 5,
it’s not real relevant to rehearing the request.
Mr. Shaw said the height was less compelling than the setback of
the structure. He said even at 12 feet, it will be extremely
significant, at 19 feet or 23 feet, or any number, but the
actual position of the structure is more of an issue, and the
view of it from the adjacent properties, and the imposition it
would have on the neighbors.
Mr. Reppucci said he thought the presentation of the height was
distorted, and that their presentation of the height is not from
ground level. He said in point 8, it says that the pump house
is two feet below the ground level, and the remaining four feet
of the walls will be covered by dirt, he said he didn’t agree
with this.
Mr. Currier said in point 13, the Board and the abutters had
some initial concern about the potential noise, but didn’t think
the applicant spoke much about it, and the Board didn’t weigh
that into the consideration to deny the request.
Mr. Currier asked if there was any procedural error, including
improper notice, denying someone the right to be heard.
Board members all said no.
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Mr. Currier asked if it was an illegal decision, in other words,
did the Board fail to completely address each of the points of
law required.
Board members all said no.
Mr. Currier asked if the request for rehearing contained any new
information not presented or available to the Board at the
original Public Hearing.
Mr. Currier said some new height numbers were thrown out, but it
is not compelling evidence to grant a new hearing.
Mr. Williams said it was more the view that it would have to the
neighboring properties.
The Board members all said no.
Mr. Currier asked if there is anything which could/would cause
the Board to make a different decision.
The Board members all said no.
MOTION by Mr. Currier to deny the rehearing request on behalf of
the applicant based upon the discussion and testimony that the
Board just discussed.
SECONDED by Mr. Reppucci.
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY 4-0.
REGIONAL IMPACT:
The Board did not see any items of Regional Impact.
MINUTES:
September 14, 2010:
Mr. Reppucci suggested a change for Page 10, 2nd paragraph, Page
11, the first big paragraph, and Page 19, the section where it
was a 2-2 vote and the motion fails, and it didn’t state an
outcome.
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Mr. Falk said he’d make the changes, and forward a copy of the
approval letter to the Board for review.
Mr. Reppucci said the minutes are incomplete until this can be
reviewed.
Further discussion ensued.
MOTION by Mr. Shaw to Table the Minutes until further review
SECONDED by Mr. Reppucci.
MOTION CARRIED 3-1 (Mr. Currier)
ADJOURNMENT:
Mr. Currier called the meeting closed at 9:00 a.m.
Robert Shaw, Clerk
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Nashua, New Hampshire 03061-2019
September 13, 2010
The following is to be published on ROP September 18, 2010,
under the Seal of the City of Nashua, Public Notice Format
65 MP 51.
Notice is hereby given that a Public Hearing of the City of
Nashua Zoning Board of Adjustment will be held on Tuesday,
September 28, 2010, at 6:30 PM at the Nashua City Hall
Auditorium, 3rd floor, 229 Main Street.
1. NH Housing Finance Authority (Owner) Scott DeSantis
(Applicant) 22 Lawndale Avenue (Sheet 108 Lot 84)
requesting variance to encroach 8 feet into the 25
foot required rear yard setback to replace an existing
house on the same footprint. RA Zone, Ward 6.
2. Roman Catholic Bishop of Manchester (Owner) Randy
Turmel (Applicant) 65 Pine Hill Road (Sheet E Lot
2223) requesting the following: 1) use variance to
allow elderly housing in the AI District portion of
the property, consisting of single family detached
units and two duplex units for a total of up to twelve
units in the AI District; and, 2) variance to permit
up to four elderly housing dwelling units per acre in
the AI District portion of the property. AI & R9
Zones, Ward 1.
OTHER BUSINESS:
1. Review of Motion for Rehearing:
1. Kenneth Mayo, “L” Wellington Street
2. Review of upcoming agenda to determine proposals of
regional impact.
3. Approval of Minutes for previous hearings/meetings.
"SUITABLE ACCOMMODATIONS FOR THE SENSORY IMPAIRED
WILL BE PROVIDED UPON ADEQUATE ADVANCE NOTICE."
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